Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Darkheart on March 10, 2008, 08:04:34 PM
Title: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Darkheart on March 10, 2008, 08:04:34 PM
Seriously, I have yet to have one single playable battle today~! I have a good internet connection~! I have tried several times to play my brother who lives only an hour away and we both experience heavy lag, sometimes to the point where its just static images. I talked to some people at school and both said they have had little to no lag. What am I doing wrong? Is this just a one time case or is it just Nintendos servers being bogged down by the huge jump in connections?
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: stevey on March 10, 2008, 08:28:42 PM
Turn off your computer(s) and anything on your network might help....
Although your lucky, I've only been able to play 1 match total... DAMN YOU ERROR 85010!!! Stop disconnecting Brawl :@
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Caliban on March 10, 2008, 08:39:02 PM
I'm in the great white north, and I have had no lag problems. I've played against Svevan, Pale, Myxtica_Azn (sp?), Nile Boogie (actually there were 2 Niles at one time lol), and uh yeah that was pretty much who I had a lot of fun playing brawl with until now.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: that Baby guy on March 10, 2008, 08:42:40 PM
How many times do I have to say: Turn off everything else you have connected to the freaking internet. I'll get Pale to put it in the thread about it. It can increase the speed a surprising amount for some reason.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: darknight06 on March 10, 2008, 08:46:20 PM
It's a fighting game online, it's going to have lag by it's very nature. I would say that if you want a better chance at playable speeds get one of those USB broadband adaptors and run it wired.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Pale on March 10, 2008, 09:48:38 PM
I'm in the great white north, and I have had no lag problems. I've played against Svevan, Pale, Myxtica_Azn (sp?), Nile Boogie (actually there were 2 Niles at one time lol), and uh yeah that was pretty much who I had a lot of fun playing brawl with until now.
This is interesting, because when I played against you the lag was pretty bad... playable after I got used to it, but pretty bad.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Pale on March 10, 2008, 10:00:22 PM
Also, turning everything off that's connected to the internet makes ZERO sense.
Routers are designed to handle this stuff. The wii doesn't know any better about any other connected devices.
It would take me a half hour to disconnect my house and a half hour to reconnect it. NOT A SOLUTION.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Dirk Temporo on March 10, 2008, 10:04:44 PM
I'm in the great white north, and I have had no lag problems. I've played against Svevan, Pale, Myxtica_Azn (sp?), Nile Boogie (actually there were 2 Niles at one time lol), and uh yeah that was pretty much who I had a lot of fun playing brawl with until now.
Oh, so you didn't have a lot of fun playing those matches with me? =P
I've only REALLY experienced lag when playing With Anyone. I didn't notice any with Smash Brother, or with the couple matches with Caliban and Nile.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Caliban on March 10, 2008, 10:20:45 PM
Oh, so you didn't have a lot of fun playing those matches with me? =P
I knew I was forgetting someone, but I just couldn't remember and I was going to add that to my post lol. My apologies. We will have double the fun next time, my promise.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Darkheart on March 10, 2008, 10:26:24 PM
Also, turning everything off that's connected to the internet makes ZERO sense.
Routers are designed to handle this stuff. The wii doesn't know any better about any other connected devices.
It would take me a half hour to disconnect my house and a half hour to reconnect it. NOT A SOLUTION.
THANK YOU~! That was my argument all day to everyone who told me to shut off my pc and everything else in the apartment it makes no sense. My thoughts are just that the servers are bogged down and will get better after people stop flooding them. However this doesnt still make sense seeing as how people at school who live just across the street or blocks away, have no lag issues. . . .
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Shecky on March 10, 2008, 11:28:16 PM
I have not been able to play a single match online, friend or otherwise.
I think Nintendo hosts all the matches, but I plan to do some tests later
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: that Baby guy on March 10, 2008, 11:35:42 PM
Also, turning everything off that's connected to the internet makes ZERO sense.
Routers are designed to handle this stuff. The wii doesn't know any better about any other connected devices.
It would take me a half hour to disconnect my house and a half hour to reconnect it. NOT A SOLUTION.
THANK YOU~! That was my argument all day to everyone who told me to shut off my pc and everything else in the apartment it makes no sense. My thoughts are just that the servers are bogged down and will get better after people stop flooding them. However this doesnt still make sense seeing as how people at school who live just across the street or blocks away, have no lag issues. . . .
It does make zero sense. I know. I've talked to Shecky about it. However, I've sat there and connected my computer to the router in online matches, watched it slow to a crawl for about fifty seconds, then disconnect it, and it sped up much faster instantly. I don't care if it makes sense or not. Perhaps some routers give low priority to the Wii. Just try it. If you're getting low speeds, it's worth a shot and shouldn't take much time, right?
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
I played 2 matches today with Svevan and Nile while I was the only one in the house and all other computers were off: it was unplayable with about a second delay on every action.
I tried switching from Bowser to Mario (since Bowser has some built in lag anyway) and it didn't help. Someone in my other thread said they played on a T1 and STILL had lag, so I don't think it's my connection.
Also, sadly, it seems like the latency indicator appears at random: it's there (and yellow) for one player who has yet to register me but when I went into Svevan's game, it wasn't there, but it appeared after I came out.
Same thing with Megaybyte's game: no latency indicator (though I never successfully joined that one).
I'm hoping Nintendo just needs to iron the kinks out of this. Not being able to play Brawl online after looking forward to it is pretty crushing, actually.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: ThePerm on March 11, 2008, 02:22:35 AM
iv played 8 online matches, the first one was super laggy, but after that it was perfect. After i turned it off i haven't been able to connect again.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2008, 02:27:59 AM
Also, FYI, if you create the game, you probably won't have lag, but you might notice your opponents are a bit sluggish to react.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Svevan on March 11, 2008, 02:32:23 AM
I am able to turn my wireless connection off in two seconds, but I'm on a mac and not everyone around here has that luxury. Also, I have NO idea if it helped, I was lagging too, but it felt like we were playing in a 0.5 slow motion mode.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Darkheart on March 11, 2008, 11:37:16 AM
Guys I found out that WAVEBIRDS can interfere with the router~! I changed mine to a different channel and I had fairly lag free battles with my brother last night~! I will need to try out the online more tonight to further prove this theory but it did fix a lot for me.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 11, 2008, 01:53:39 PM
Turn off cell phones, don't run the microwave, cover your house in mylar foil, and turn off your neighbor's routers.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2008, 02:25:56 PM
Guys I found out that WAVEBIRDS can interfere with the router~! I changed mine to a different channel and I had fairly lag free battles with my brother last night~! I will need to try out the online more tonight to further prove this theory but it did fix a lot for me.
I don't use wavebirds, but I'm going to run a wire from my Wii to the router anyway. I'd do just about anything to get my ping down to decent levels...
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Pale on March 11, 2008, 02:51:46 PM
Nintendo should pay to run direct fiber lines to all of our houses.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: vudu on March 11, 2008, 03:16:12 PM
Title: Heres what worked for me.
Post by: TAYREL713 on March 11, 2008, 03:52:03 PM
I have a high gain antenna that is normally connected to my pc with the standard antenna connected to the router. Last night I switched the configuration and placed the high gain antenna on the router and the short one on the pc card. I had to move the antenna around (it's in my basement pretty much directly under my entertainment center but furtehr away from my desk and the computer. Wow was that explanation long enough? Anyway, I played four matches last night completly free of lag. These were "Play Anybody" matches not Friend Code matches which I have yet to get to play due to timing issues with my friends. I have also watched a couple of matches in Spectator Mode with no lag either so there, thats my story.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Ceric on March 11, 2008, 04:25:31 PM
Thats right Wavebirds are at the already overcrowded 2.4 ghz frequency.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2008, 04:57:09 PM
Nintendo should pay to run direct fiber lines to all of our houses.
If they can mobilize an army to hunt down pirates in 2nd world countries, I think they could mobilize Verizon into getting FIOS everywhere, yes.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2008, 08:59:53 PM
For testing, I ran a SHIELDED network cable from my Wii's USB adapter DIRECTLY into my DSL modem, meaning that my Wii is the ONLY piece of hardware on the network and I still experienced some pretty terrible lag, especially when a 3rd person joined my game.
I hope to hell this is Nintendo's servers and not indicative of what I can expect forever...
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 11, 2008, 09:17:12 PM
The weird thing is that the Japanese version didn't have it THIS bad. There were claims of lag, but people who imported the game and played with other people had no problems at all.
It does seem like the servers are taking a severe hit.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: stevey on March 11, 2008, 09:30:57 PM
Turning off the wavebird temporally after you pick you character and stage but before the match starts help tremendously if you have trouble with connecting, lag, and "error 85010" for me at lease:)
loss count of the # of match played today
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Caliban on March 11, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
Today I noticed this lag everyone is talking about. Although this lag was quite sporadic during a match. I was playing with UncleBob and Pale in a stock match when UncleBob gets eliminated, and all of a sudden lag ensues. It wasn't terrible, but it was noticeable.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Pale on March 11, 2008, 10:37:37 PM
i just played a ton of matches with all regional people (the northeast)...
For me I noticed a ton of lag in the beginning and then it tailed off. Right now I think the only remedy to lag is getting used to it. :-/
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Darkheart on March 11, 2008, 11:14:40 PM
I played a bunch of online matches and since I changed my Routers channel to channel 11 and my wavebird to 1. I have beautiful lag free battles.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 12, 2008, 12:17:32 AM
I think it depends upon region.
Luckily, I've found some closer folks who I can spar with, but there's still a slight hint of lag.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 12, 2008, 03:05:05 AM
I played a match against a friend that's 20 miles away and it was a lot of lag.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Dirk Temporo on March 12, 2008, 03:29:47 AM
I hope this is something that can be fixed. If I can play Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 (two of the fastest twitch games I know) almost completely lag-free with 20+ players in a match, then damn it I should be able to play a four-player brawl with little to no lag.
Title: Re: Is there a trick to lag free battles?
Post by: Ceric on March 12, 2008, 10:25:30 AM
Yeah last night I made sure to use a corded controller and Darkheart, Stevey, Mike, and I played quite a few Lag free rounds. Some of which where Coin w/ 2.0 Damage Ratio (Characters flying everywhere with enough coins to make Scrooge envious.)
