Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Shecky on February 22, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
Title: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on February 22, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
No thread for this here.
After a week delay (2/12 original release, to 2/19). Apollo Justice is out... why didn't someone remind me?? I mean there was a whole week delay and no one.... ah never mind.
NP had a good story on this in a previous issue. Looks like the writing will be pretty good. I plan on picking it up today.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 22, 2008, 05:06:28 PM
I got it Wednesday. I haven't played it because I still have the first one to complete, then I will play the next two then finally I will get around to Apollo Justice. I am a slow player... as in I play the game a while then don't play it for a long while, while I go and do something else.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 22, 2008, 07:10:20 PM
I'm still waiting on my copy from Walmart (which I bought using the giftcard I got for the Brawl FUBAR). Should be here in 5 days, I'll see if I can get my fiancee to throw up some impressions on it because she loves the PW series.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2008, 10:42:35 PM
THE GAME IS OUT!? AUUUUGH, I JUST GOT BACK FROM SHOPPING!
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Smoke39 on February 22, 2008, 10:45:12 PM
Does this game actually require the touch screen like the last case in the first game? I still haven't gotten a new DS.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2008, 10:49:36 PM
Indeed it does...Lots of touch-screen interactive investigation...
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 23, 2008, 10:04:18 PM
Just picked up the game today...The first case is the very definition of epic! :heart;
Seriously, from how suave Wright is, to the battle of wits between Wright and Gavin...Holy crap it was awesome!
The only problem I have so far is I'm not too keen on Apollo's voice, but I'll manage...
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on February 24, 2008, 08:17:21 AM
Picked it up yesterday... just played through the first case and it was a excellent start. I can't help but notice that your assistant in this game animates just like a certain past character namely Perl Fey. Probably just a Japanese art type thing though.... or is it?
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 24, 2008, 08:27:49 AM
Ahaha, I'm pretty sure that it is merely coincidence...
Second case was also very awesome (Panties! SO MANY JOKES ABOUT PANTIES!), and I love the new Perceive feature...
Edit: Fun fact about Klavier: His name means "piano" in German! (what)
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on February 24, 2008, 04:14:41 PM
Edit: Fun fact about Klavier: His name means "piano" in German! (what)
Fun fact: Has this series of games ever had a shortage of character whose name *weren't* a pun, stereotype, or play on words in some way? Answer: NO :)
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on February 24, 2008, 04:18:50 PM
Does this game actually require the touch screen like the last case in the first game? I still haven't gotten a new DS.
Actually it requires the microphone too... which is a big problem for me since my internal microphone is busted. I think the use of a headset destroyed whatever logic is used to cutoff the internal mic and now it's just off for good. Thankfully my headset mic still seems to work ok, but that means no more playing these games on the road... :(
Why, why not make a button available to "blow off" that aluminum powder??
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 24, 2008, 07:58:20 PM
Edit: Fun fact about Klavier: His name means "piano" in German! (what)
Fun fact: Has this series of games ever had a shortage of character whose name *weren't* a pun, stereotype, or play on words in some way? Answer: NO :)
Most of the name puns can be figured out since they are derived from English words, but Klavier isn't, so I had to enlighten the masses... =)
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: THE Princess on February 25, 2008, 02:22:39 AM
blah
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 25, 2008, 04:24:31 AM
Game: Complete! And man was it a fantastic ride! Somehow the Phoenix W...Or should I say "Ace Attorney" team, is able to best themselves with each game...Especially that last case, what an absolute zinger!
But unfortunately, this game didn't work quite like Trials and Tribulations, in that it didn't answer every question (which will most likely be pulled up in the next games)...
1. Lamiroir never revealed to Phoenix the true secrets of the "Perceive" bracelet... 2. She also never revealed to Apollo and Trucy that she is their mother... 3. Nor do Apollo and Trucy know they are siblings...Seriously, why aren't they told? I could see this being a problem if "something" pops up, if you catch my drift... 4. Phoenix seems to hint that he shares some deeper connection with Trucy that hasn't come to light...He says something along the lines of "he is the only one who understands her" (as in he understands the suffering she's been going through these past seven years)...Interesting... 5. Kristoph's black psyche-locks...THOSE LOCKS WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS! O_O
I yearn for the next game... ;_;
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Svevan on February 25, 2008, 07:24:13 AM
Edit: Fun fact about Klavier: His name means "piano" in German! (what)
Fun fact: Has this series of games ever had a shortage of character whose name *weren't* a pun, stereotype, or play on words in some way? Answer: NO :)
Most of the name puns can be figured out since they are derived from English words, but Klavier isn't, so I had to enlighten the masses... =)
everyone knows that jerk
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: EasyCure on February 25, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
I got it Wednesday. I haven't played it because I still have the first one to complete, then I will play the next two then finally I will get around to Apollo Justice. I am a slow player... as in I play the game a while then don't play it for a long while, while I go and do something else.
ME TOO!
i was afriad i was the only one lol. i finished Justice for All last week and i started Trials and tribulations right after. I'm trying to rush thru it quick just so i can catch up and move onto Appollo Justice. I almost bought it this weekend but i know i would of been to tempted to finish the first case (since i teased myself with that flash demo online) but i resisted.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 27, 2008, 01:07:26 AM
Most of the name puns can be figured out since they are derived from English words, but Klavier isn't, so I had to enlighten the masses... =)
everyone knows that jerk
Oh really? Well here's another interesting fact for you...In the world of fortune-reading, do you know what the FIVE OF HEARTS (the case-ending clue in Case 1) can stand for?
Relationship breakdown...(Meanings can be different for different kinds of readings, but it is always a "sorrowful" card) Interesting stuff, no? =)
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Svevan on February 27, 2008, 01:48:32 AM
I didn't know that, actually. FUN FACT!
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on March 01, 2008, 11:03:50 PM
Game: Complete! And man was it a fantastic ride! Somehow the Phoenix W...Or should I say "Ace Attorney" team, is able to best themselves with each game...Especially that last case, what an absolute zinger!
But unfortunately, this game didn't work quite like Trials and Tribulations, in that it didn't answer every question (which will most likely be pulled up in the next games)...
1. Lamiroir never revealed to Phoenix the true secrets of the "Perceive" bracelet... 2. She also never revealed to Apollo and Trucy that she is their mother... 3. Nor do Apollo and Trucy know they are siblings...Seriously, why aren't they told? I could see this being a problem if "something" pops up, if you catch my drift... 4. Phoenix seems to hint that he shares some deeper connection with Trucy that hasn't come to light...He says something along the lines of "he is the only one who understands her" (as in he understands the suffering she's been going through these past seven years)...Interesting... 5. Kristoph's black psyche-locks...THOSE LOCKS WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS! O_O
I yearn for the next game... ;_;
And done... Excellent game, although some thoughts: The last case doesn't carry the same energy as previous last cases. The pace was all off. Quite a few ah-ha! moments, but since new facts are dug up late that's expected. The whole jury system thing too seems odd. It's not like it's become more of a real life simulator with the inclusion and I always saw the "one last piece of evidence, please" mentality as just part of the game. It's like the game is asking you to make yet another connection just to flex your thoughts completely around the case. That's fine, I was OK with that and OK with the fact that game over dialog seldom made sense or fit. This game tries to bring it to the forefront and it kind of sticks out.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 02, 2008, 12:13:30 AM
The last case doesn't carry the same energy as previous last cases. The pace was all off. Quite a few ah-ha! moments, but since new facts are dug up late that's expected. The whole jury system thing too seems odd. It's not like it's become more of a real life simulator with the inclusion and I always saw the "one last piece of evidence, please" mentality as just part of the game. It's like the game is asking you to make yet another connection just to flex your thoughts completely around the case. That's fine, I was OK with that and OK with the fact that game over dialog seldom made sense or fit. This game tries to bring it to the forefront and it kind of sticks out.
Well the one thing that always bothered me about prior cases was that the final clue tended to be something that was dropped right in your lap right at the end anyway, so it's really not a huge loss...
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: IceCold on March 02, 2008, 10:58:07 PM
I don't want to start this game because I heard something bad happens to Phoenix.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 02, 2008, 11:02:03 PM
Don't worry, it's a happy ending... =)
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: EasyCure on March 21, 2008, 09:30:02 AM
LOLOLOLOLOL PANTIES!
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: LuigiHann on March 21, 2008, 01:29:09 PM
They kept saying the word until it started to lose its meaning...
i started to feel that after the first 5 times but then i reminded myself its the first game i've played that mentions the word "panties" and.. even though i know it wont happen, im hoping story ends up being some guy nabbed them and put them in a used panty vending machine. i nkow its not gonna happen, but its still funny to think of
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on January 10, 2009, 05:21:36 PM
Hmmm, anyone else find it funny that the new TV series "Lie to Me" is all about a character that can sense when someone is lying via their subtle actions.... each time I see the commercial they claim the "original" concept (OBJECTION!) and I have to chuckle. I mean it's kind of true, but at the same time...
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: IceCold on January 11, 2009, 05:26:45 AM
I won't go as far as to say that this is a terrible game, but it's severly lacking compared to the original trilogy. I'm holding back the urge to write about the flaws... that would be a long post.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on January 11, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
Yeah it had some odd points, still enjoyed playing it though. Primary big things that were strange was the jumping around (those who played will know what I mean without giving too much away) in the final chapter - I know what they were trying to do but it was handled poorly. Second was some of the dialog, especially that when Apollo used his "Sense" ability to check for lies. He'd always come out of it like "I saw you do X, why are you lying to me?" and they would crack. I would have rather seen the protagonist put the person on the spot and really drill into him, ask the tough questions and perhaps even dig up some evidence along the way.
Basically, after perceiving the lie, you'd go into a psyche-lock type scenario .... without the damn locks which were just superficial anyways.
Come to think about it, the whole bracelet thing is a non-automatic version of the mag-whatever Phoenix had.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: KDR_11k on January 11, 2009, 10:51:37 AM
Yeah except the bracelet was only used in court so they had to return to giving you "health" refills after court sessions instead of forcing you to accumulate them from psyche locks (which consumed health but couldn't kill you so they felt like a stupid waste of health).
What I considered stupid about this whole MASON thing was that it violated causality, you could get the nail paint in the present and then show it to a character 7 years in the past (yet the game wouldn't let you take the damn nail paint that was in the same room even though you know fully well that it's what you need). I could have understood if Phoenix had just pointed at the paint in the room and the thing from the future was just a "reminder" (well, an unlock to let you bring the topic up) but he actually says he has a bottle with him that looks like the one on the table.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 11, 2009, 11:03:16 AM
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: gbuell on October 12, 2010, 07:34:16 PM
So, I've played the original Phoenix Wright trilogy, and I'm really wanting to get Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth, but I haven't played Apollo Justice. Will I be missing out on story stuff if I don't play Apollo Justice before AAI:ME?
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: nickmitch on October 12, 2010, 09:32:13 PM
Not at all.
Well, I haven't beaten AAI:ME yet, but I'm a few cases in and it seems to be mostly self contained.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: MoronSonOfBoron on October 14, 2010, 09:04:03 PM
AAI:ME is pretty self-contained, as is AJ... but AJ has a very weak story in itself, considering the lengths they went to to shoehorn certain things in. Until now, I would only recommend AJ for fans and completionists.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: Shecky on November 14, 2010, 08:06:05 PM
Both are self contained. AAI:ME is a large step up in terms of interface.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: EasyCure on December 08, 2010, 11:12:04 PM
I'm going to do to some poor sucker what this thread just did to me;
get their hopes up about some possible new Apollo Justice announcement :(
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: gbuell on January 30, 2011, 11:07:33 PM
Well I got Apollo Justice AND Miles Edgeworth, I'm working through AJ now. I like it just fine, so far it's not significantly worse than the previous games (except that the Klavier Gavin character is pretty lame so far), but man, has there even been a game outside of the Leisure Suit Larry series that has used the word "panties" so much?
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: EasyCure on January 30, 2011, 11:09:22 PM
it was funny the first three times then it just got awkward..
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: gbuell on January 30, 2011, 11:21:25 PM
Yeah, it's very strange.
Title: Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Post by: EasyCure on January 30, 2011, 11:23:54 PM
I want to tell you that it ends up having a significant role in the plot, but honestly I don't remember much about the game anymore. just deal with the panties, please.
