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Title: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: MaryJane on February 21, 2008, 05:03:15 AM
In the press release for WiiWare there's this interestig little tidbit:

[q]Meanwhile Wii owners can download a multitude of cool new games from different genres, including some that are unprecedented, which can be purchased from home at a dynamic price range. WiiWare also empowers consumers to determine with their Wii Points which games have the right stuff to become the next big thing.[/q]

Does this mean indie devs with hit games are going to receive funding from Nintendo to do a full-fledge sequel or to expound upon an idea implemented in their game?? That would be pretty damn cool of Nintendo!
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Leck on February 21, 2008, 06:54:44 AM
I think it just means you can vote on what games are good and what are bad, but who knows? I'd be a perfect way for indie devs to come to Nintendo's attention.

Oh a related note, is there a list of upcoming WiiWare games anywhere?
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Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 21, 2008, 07:21:33 AM
I think it just means you can vote on what games are good and what are bad, but who knows? I'd be a perfect way for indie devs to come to Nintendo's attention.

Oh a related note, is there a list of upcoming WiiWare games anywhere?
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On Vc-reviews.com they have info on wiiware, virtual console games and information on the consoles themselves.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Smoke39 on February 21, 2008, 07:22:48 AM
Does this mean indie devs with hit games are going to receive funding from Nintendo to do a full-fledge sequel or to expound upon an idea implemented in their game?? That would be pretty damn cool of Nintendo!
Maybe.  Or maybe a popular WiiWare game would just make it easier to attract any publisher.

Or it could just mean being popular/trendy. :<
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Pale on February 21, 2008, 05:39:18 PM
I don't even think this means there is going to be a voting option.  They are simply saying people can vote with their dollars if you will.  If you buy a game, you like it.

Also, there aren't any guarantees with that statement.  They are just saying that if you make an indie game popular, chances are someone is going to want them to make another game.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 21, 2008, 10:03:42 PM
It feels like Duke Nukem will be in stores before WiiWare matters.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 21, 2008, 10:10:49 PM
I don't even think this means there is going to be a voting option.

Actually, I believe there will be a rating system for players who buy games to review a game, but in this case, they mean games which sell the most will receive more attention.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Ceric on February 21, 2008, 10:55:17 PM
Pessimisitic time.  Donate money to developers to develope games.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 21, 2008, 11:53:15 PM
I don't think pessimism is warranted in this case.

The good games will be bought, the bad games will not.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: KDR_11k on February 21, 2008, 11:54:39 PM
I don't think pessimism is warranted in this case.

The well advertised games will be bought, the unknown games will not.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 22, 2008, 12:00:33 AM
I think its too early to say the games will either be a hit or a flop since we don't know for sure how things will be handled.

Know how games like Carnival Games became big sellers because of word of mouth? I think the same thing might happen with some Wii Ware games. If online sites constantly recommend them and word of mouth is strong on forums them some games might be decent to massive hits.

But like I said its too early to tell so it isn't wise to be pessimistic or optimistic about it...
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Smoke39 on February 22, 2008, 05:57:06 AM
The thing with digital distribution is you basically have unlimited shelf space.  While games sold in stores have a very short time to prove themselves before getting shoved asside to make room for the next big thing, digitally distributed games have the potential to still sell decently even if they're aren't smash hits because they can accumulate sales over a much longer period of time.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Ceric on February 22, 2008, 06:05:05 AM
A Tower game like Pixel Junks Monsters.  Be a nice niche title.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Svevan on February 22, 2008, 11:14:06 AM
I don't think pessimism is warranted in this case.

The well advertised games will be bought, the unknown games will not.

qft; this is what happens in the book, movie, television, food, political, religious, and internet world. In the case of games, they are so expensive to make that "unknown" games don't get finished or released. The greatest example of an "unknown" game is fricken Psychonauts. WiiWare is a step in the right direction, as it brings cheaper/smaller games and less popular genres to the market in a more visible way.

It is part of the Internet revolution. The "free (read: corporate) will" of democracy has failed; the true democracy of the Internet is a leveler. But even in the Internet world, IGN is popular, so....
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2008, 06:29:26 PM
The internet just replaces monolithic advertisements in TV or whatever with smaller ads in forums. Not necessarily just planted ads, in part just word of mouth. Psychonauts gets constant mentions on forums, it's like the big fish of the small fry. However not all good games get advertised by forums, many still end up obscure and ignored no matter whether they're good or not. The internet doesn't remove the hype machine, it just changes the mechanics a bit.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Kairon on February 24, 2008, 03:53:06 AM
Games shouldn't be so expensive to make to begin with. We've got Hollywood multi-million dollar Blockbuster syndrome.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 24, 2008, 04:22:31 AM
If forum goon attitudes towards the VC are anything to go by, third parties are bloody doomed on WiiWare.

"AWESOME GAME ON VC"
"YEAH BUT IT'S NOT BY NINTENDO I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ UP ON IT SO IT'S A CRAP WEEK"
"Um"
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Mario on February 24, 2008, 04:27:11 AM
Pretty much, but at least they wont lose as much money.
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Kairon on February 24, 2008, 04:44:30 AM
If forum goon attitudes towards the VC are anything to go by, third parties are bloody doomed on WiiWare.

"AWESOME GAME ON VC"
"YEAH BUT IT'S NOT BY NINTENDO I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ UP ON IT SO IT'S A CRAP WEEK"
"Um"

I'm part of the solution! dun-du-du-dunnnn!!!

Also, What's Nintendo's big WiiWare releases? Pokemon Farm? Dr. Mario? If Nintendo stays out of the WiiWare field for the most part, then maybe third parties won't have to compete with Nintendo much!
Title: Re: WiiWare Transition?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 25, 2008, 12:25:36 PM
Nintendo has mentioned a few times that they're looking for the "next big idea" with Wiiware.

It'd be counter-productive to smother that idea with their own software so no one notices it.