Post by: Nick DiMola on February 02, 2008, 01:20:48 AM
Anybody else ever been cursed with this responsibility?
Post by: vudu on February 02, 2008, 01:39:03 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 02, 2008, 03:39:32 AM
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I generally tell them I'm a bigot, and prejudice against blacks, homosexuals, women, and anyone else who doesn't look exactly like me.
At least you have the courage to be honest. I'm suprised I've never been called.
Post by: Smoke39 on February 02, 2008, 11:30:33 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on February 02, 2008, 11:35:11 AM
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I was summoned for jury duty once a year or two ago. Luckily that was before I transfered out of DigiPen, so I was out of state at the time and didn't have to go.
Why did you tranfer out of DigiPen? I will apply soon, so I want to ask.
Post by: ThePerm on February 02, 2008, 11:39:48 AM
Post by: Smoke39 on February 02, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Edit: Perm, I don't remember which year it was. My first year I made Planet Zarbock in Project FUN and helped make Bracer the second semester on a team in C. My second year I worked on Silhouette Apparatus.
Post by: Kairon on February 02, 2008, 12:24:18 PM
But yeah... I'd love to read more about your project Smoke. The one thing I've decided upon in all this time is that no matter how good the education plan or teachers around you, it's your own efforts above and beyond what's asked of you that'll dictate your success. More than 50% of the new games students we get are gone before their first semester is over.
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ANYWAYS, back on topic...
Man... I wish I was a citizen so that I could do some jury duty... *sighs wistfully*
Post by: Caliban on February 02, 2008, 12:44:41 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on February 02, 2008, 12:46:45 PM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 04, 2008, 04:30:39 AM
Post by: Svevan on February 04, 2008, 08:13:55 AM
Post by: vudu on February 04, 2008, 08:15:35 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 04, 2008, 08:16:28 AM
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Shouldn't we, as citizens of countries that allow jury trials, WANT to be involved in the judicial process?
You do have a point there Evan, personally I consider it as a small sacrifice for my country, and I would happily go to jury duty if summoned.
Post by: Kairon on February 04, 2008, 08:59:42 AM
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Shouldn't we, as citizens of countries that allow jury trials, WANT to be involved in the judicial process?
Personally, I think it's flattering to be asked to decide the fate of someone else. We're asked to be intelligent, rationale, and wield the power to find as much truth as we possibly can. It's.... I would be think that would be a RUSH to have that sort of responsibility.
You know, sort of like being able to vote for the oscar winners. That's what Jury duty sounds like to me. Exciting!
Post by: Ian Sane on February 04, 2008, 10:34:11 AM
With that attitude I'm sure the jury will come to a fair and just decision.
"Shouldn't we, as citizens of countries that allow jury trials, WANT to be involved in the judicial process?"
I would have no problem with it if I was compensated for the time I'm forced to take off work. I don't know how it is in the States but in Canada jurors don't even make minimum wage for their time (or at least that's what I've heard; maybe it's changed or was never true). Jury duty is like getting temporarily laid off work. Thankfully I've never been summoned. The irony is that because of the financial situation one could argue that only losers and morons serve in juries as anyone else would make a serious effort to get out of it and would have the intelligence to pull that off.
Though instead of faking racism I believe there is another way out of it. I don't how I know this *wink* *wink* but apparently if your employer can prove that you are an essential part of the company that cannot be easily replaced and that your absense would effectively shut down the business you can use that as a way out. This certainly didn't happen with any co-worker of mine at a company that I've ever worked for.
Post by: Crimm on February 04, 2008, 11:18:59 AM
I know my father has been called about a thousand times. Back when I was real young he got one for "attempted assault with a deadly weapon." Supposedly these two old men had been arguing and one "tried to run [me] over with his car." The trial went on for about 7 hours before it came out that the tire marks placed the car AT CLOSEST to the "victim" 7 feet away.
I wish I could have seen that one.
Post by: vudu on February 04, 2008, 12:14:55 PM
QuoteMost companies will continue to pay your regular wages for a minimum of a week if you're a full time employee (i.e. if you work at least 30 hours per week).
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I don't know how it is in the States but in Canada jurors don't even make minimum wage for their time (or at least that's what I've heard; maybe it's changed or was never true).
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 04, 2008, 11:39:38 PM
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Shouldn't we, as citizens of countries that allow jury trials, WANT to be involved in the judicial process?
No. Maybe if the case you are in is very straight forward and a verdict can be reached with relative ease, it is something that you may want to be involved in, otherwise it is awful. In the case I am serving in, there is no solid evidence and nearly all inferences must be drawn from circumstantial evidence. Knowing that someone's life is in your hands, you NEED to make the right decision. Coming to that decision is anything but easy, and it is something that will weigh on me for many years to come.
Post by: Kairon on February 04, 2008, 11:46:17 PM
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Shouldn't we, as citizens of countries that allow jury trials, WANT to be involved in the judicial process?
No. Maybe if the case you are in is very straight forward and a verdict can be reached with relative ease, it is something that you may want to be involved in, otherwise it is awful. In the case I am serving in, there is no solid evidence and nearly all inferences must be drawn from circumstantial evidence. Knowing that someone's life is in your hands, you NEED to make the right decision. Coming to that decision is anything but easy, and it is something that will weigh on me for many years to come.
It's because of people like you that our judicial system works! *swoon* ... you know, in a certain responsible-citizen-is-the-backbone-of-society viewpoint, it's almost heroic what you're doing.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 04, 2008, 04:10:40 PM
Post by: Svevan on February 04, 2008, 04:42:19 PM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 05, 2008, 03:06:06 AM
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Shouldn't we, as citizens of countries that allow jury trials, WANT to be involved in the judicial process?
I'd share that attitude if I weren't far and away beating the statistical average for jury duty summons in one lifetime. The first time I was summoned was mere months after I became eligible. I hadn't started college quite yet, so I had to show up. I was kind of interested in the whole process, really. I remember that there was a little old lady there who had gone her entire life up until then without getting jury duty, and there I was barely old enough to serve (I'm just glad we weren't at war, because I'd probably have been the first one drafted -- twice).
The real kicker that has turned it into such an annoyance, though, is that I've never even come close to actually being on a jury. I'll perform my civic duty, but I reserve the right to be ticked off when they waste my time. The first time, I made it all the way to the courtroom, and while we were filling out our questionnaires, the judge came in and said there wasn't going to be a trial after all. Apparently knowing that the jury is being assembled tends to get confessions out of people. Every time since then, though, all they've done is make me sit in a too hot room for an hour or so before sending me home with the hundred other people that they called in even though they knew it wasn't necessary. This is after they've selected the people for the panels which they'll whittle down to the juries, in case that wasn't clear. They call in far more people than necessary because they assume people will want to get out of it, and then they're extremely strict with the exceptions anyway. There's something wrong with that system.
Anyway, good luck, Mr. Jack.
Post by: Kairon on February 05, 2008, 12:58:37 PM
Post by: decoyman on February 05, 2008, 01:21:57 PM
I was selected for jury duty once. BUT, the way it worked was that the selection was only a potential selection. They had you call a day or two before, and if they didn't need you they were like, "No worries, we're good," and you were out. That's what happened to me, and it seems like a decent way to do it.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on February 05, 2008, 01:24:01 PM
Post by: Crimm on February 05, 2008, 08:32:46 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 06, 2008, 04:55:04 AM
