Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 14, 2008, 08:48:31 AM
The funny thing? Fans are going crazy over this announcement, yet they forget that they also worked on Lair. You know, the overhyped PS3 title that was bashed to pieces to the point where Sony had to tell reviewers how to properly review it?
Funny how life works sometimes, no?
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Post by: NeoThunder on January 14, 2008, 09:21:41 AM
it's crap, no developer likes developing on the PS3 development kits and it's really difficult hardware to write code for
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 14, 2008, 09:21:50 AM
Post by: Crimm on January 14, 2008, 09:24:31 AM
READ THE INCLOSED NOVEL!
Post by: vudu on January 14, 2008, 09:30:00 AM
QuoteIt doesn't matter how difficult it is to write code; you should at least make said code fun to play.
Originally posted by: NeoThunder
here's the one thing i remember about PS3 development....
it's crap, no developer likes developing on the PS3 development kits and it's really difficult hardware to write code for
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 14, 2008, 09:53:05 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 14, 2008, 12:43:31 PM
If so, what drove them towards Wii development? The Wii being an insane success? Sony's money hat ran dry? The fact that Lair was poorly received?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 14, 2008, 12:44:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Crimm
LAIR IS A GOOD GAME, YOU JUST ARE TOO STUPID TO CONTROL IT!
READ THE INCLOSED NOVEL!
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 14, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 14, 2008, 01:03:06 PM
1) a pleasant surprise
2) a complete disaster
Post by: Arbok on January 14, 2008, 01:41:57 PM
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Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
An ultra realistic version of PilotWings would be awesome (though the cartoony feel of cannon shot was my favorite part).
I was watching this HD sky diving and cliff diving show on Discovery, and it was amazing. I am definitely going to do that MANY times during my life, but I'd rather get started with a game.
Post by: Shecky on January 14, 2008, 03:10:27 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 14, 2008, 04:25:33 PM
Funny how things turn out sometimes.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 14, 2008, 11:55:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Maxi
What does everybody think this new game is? Could it be a Star wars game, Maniac Mansion, or one of their point an click games of yore. Or something entirely new. I think its Sam & Max.
You're confusing F5 with LucasArts, F5's old games are stuff like Turrican and Katakis (R-Type ripoff). Also Sam & Max is now being made by Telltale (the characters are owned by Steve Purcell who used to work for Lucas Arts back in the days of Monkey Island and so).
As for the new game, I have little hope for it. F5 has shown they mastered the technical side but the gameplay was always lacking.
Post by: oohhboy on January 15, 2008, 01:06:48 AM
They maybe something of a one trick pony as others have said, but it is a one trick I do look forward to.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 15, 2008, 01:29:29 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
One other thing, wasn't Factor 5 constantly putting down the Wii because it was graphically inferior to the other consoles?
If so, what drove them towards Wii development? The Wii being an insane success? Sony's money hat ran dry? The fact that Lair was poorly received?
Wrong third party. Factor 5 "put down" the Wii for it's sound capabilities. Factor 5 Developed the sound for the Cube, but the Wii uses the same old technology as the Cube, so I think they have the right to criticize that aspect of the system.
F5 DID put down Wii 3rd parties for their lack of effort in making games for the system.
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Post by: Crimm on January 15, 2008, 05:13:20 AM
Our new delay re-friendly Nintendo means F5's new game won't come out till it's 15th announced release date.
Also, F5 makes middleware. Even if thier game sucks harder than a vacuum their graphics and sound engines wont, and they have no problem selling them to people.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 15, 2008, 06:45:36 AM
They also made Rebel Strike which aside from the multiplayer was also crap. But the reason to go crazy is because a developer came back to Nintendo! When the f*ck does that ever happen?! This is VERY good news. The Wii should obviously have better third party support so attracting any significant developer that has initially chosen the PS3 or Xbox 360 could potentiall get momentum going. That's what worked for the Playstation. Bit by bit the former Nintendo loyalists were leaving and then once Square jumped ship everyone followed. Factor 5 is admitting they were wrong and I think too many of the third parties giving us lukewarm support want to be the first company to admit that. I hope whatever they make is great and it sells well to send a message that the Wii is what third parties should be focusing on.
And the thing is everyone welcomes back the player that left in free agency or asked for a trade. You only hate him because he's not on your team. If Rare or Silicon Knights came back fans would going nuts as well.
Post by: Stogi on January 15, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 15, 2008, 07:49:57 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian SaneIf Rare or Silicon Knights came back fans would going nuts as well.
That's only if Nintendo is there to provide them the support they need. People are excited over the potential of them working TOGETHER with Nintendo. They've shown themselves to be quite incapable on their own. Well, not sure about Silicon Knights... yet.
Post by: Athrun Zala on January 15, 2008, 08:30:43 AM
Quotelies, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine > You
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I bet it is a flying game, because that is all Factor 5 can do. Can't say I'm too excited beyond seeing what they can do visually for Wii.
that got me thinking though, maybe it's a new Indy (movie) game?
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 15, 2008, 08:40:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma FreakQuote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
If Rare or Silicon Knights came back fans would going nuts as well.
That's only if Nintendo is there to provide them the support they need. People are excited over the potential of them working TOGETHER with Nintendo. They've shown themselves to be quite incapable on their own. Well, not sure about Silicon Knights... yet.
Well I'm not so sure that is fair to say. They have done alright, all of their 360 releases were decent. None of them were quite as classic as their previous releases, but there was still some fun to be had with them, especially with Viva Pinata and to a lesser extent Kameo. Working with Nintendo again would probably help hone their skills, but they definitely aren't incapable on their own.
I couldn't care less that Rare and SK cut ties with Nintendo, I love them and will support them with whatever they work on. If they were to ever come back to Nintendo I guess I would be happy, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me as long as they are continuing to make games on some system out there (minus the stupid cellphone). Same goes for Factor 5. I'm glad they are making a Wii game, but only because I know they will help push developers to do more with the hardware. Regardless, I would have supported them no matter what wherever they decided to make games because they are a talented developer. No hate from me just because they all parted ways with Nintendo.
Post by: Crimm on January 15, 2008, 08:51:45 AM
Ever.
We will be dead and buried before Too Human comes out. People will use the phrase "Too Human" in the same way we currently use the phrase "Duke Nukem Forever."
AND THEY PLAN SEQUELS!
Post by: IceCold on January 15, 2008, 09:43:50 AM
QuoteThey made Rogue Leader in 9 months..
One thing everyone is missing is that F5 nailed Lair with lots of delays.
Our new delay re-friendly Nintendo means F5's new game won't come out till it's 15th announced release date.
Post by: ThePerm on January 16, 2008, 10:38:24 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
One other thing, wasn't Factor 5 constantly putting down the Wii because it was graphically inferior to the other consoles?
If so, what drove them towards Wii development? The Wii being an insane success? Sony's money hat ran dry? The fact that Lair was poorly received?
Factor 5 finally realized that they are one of the most competent developers for graphics on Nintendo systems, if they make an engine with great graphics on Nintendo's (the most popular, bet selling, mostly crappy looking gamed)system then they can make bank.
like for instance im surprised at how much system resources are required for my pc to play a game like Portal, when a game like Star Wars:RS is no problem for my gamecube. To be fair source has alot of physics.
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on January 16, 2008, 09:28:13 PM
I'm getting a Konami/Dewey vibe from Factor 5. Their first game is going to feature an adorable armadillo hero that's coming of age and has to save his golden cookies from the King of Alley Cats. And in a stunning display of innovation, he'll fold into a ball with the B button, where he can then be motion-controlled to squash enemies and roll into cannons.
"Rolly's Kookie Kwest" It'll get a 6.5!
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 17, 2008, 05:13:54 AM
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Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Do you think Factor 5 is working on the Wii because they feel that they were genuinely wrong about its possibilities, or because of a cynical, "Dat's where da money is!" mentality?
I'm getting a Konami/Dewey vibe from Factor 5. Their first game is going to feature an adorable armadillo hero that's coming of age and has to save his golden cookies from the King of Alley Cats. And in a stunning display of innovation, he'll fold into a ball with the B button, where he can then be motion-controlled to squash enemies and roll into cannons.
"Rolly's Kookie Kwest" It'll get a 6.5!
lol minus the name the game play sounds cool :P
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
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Originally posted by: DAaaMan64Quote
Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Do you think Factor 5 is working on the Wii because they feel that they were genuinely wrong about its possibilities, or because of a cynical, "Dat's where da money is!" mentality?
I'm getting a Konami/Dewey vibe from Factor 5. Their first game is going to feature an adorable armadillo hero that's coming of age and has to save his golden cookies from the King of Alley Cats. And in a stunning display of innovation, he'll fold into a ball with the B button, where he can then be motion-controlled to squash enemies and roll into cannons.
"Rolly's Kookie Kwest" It'll get a 6.5!
lol minus the name the game play sounds cool :P
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about with Nintendo fans always judging third party games harshly by their cover!
I like armadillos. I like cookies. I like quests. Rolly's Kookie Kwest could be a game well worth considering!
Post by: Crimm on January 17, 2008, 02:14:28 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 17, 2008, 06:46:59 PM
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Originally posted by: KaironQuote
lol minus the name the game play sounds cool :P
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about with Nintendo fans always judging third party games harshly by their cover!
I like armadillos. I like cookies. I like quests. Rolly's Kookie Kwest could be a game well worth considering!
Is you talkkin' to me K. K. Airon? Cause I said the name sucks but I'd totally buy the game anyway. Plenty of games in my collection have dumb names.
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on January 17, 2008, 07:15:55 PM
Honestly, it's hard to believe Factor 5's going to make anything besides a flight sim. If they can manage to find a way to combine flying with the villainous mewing of the Alley Cat King, they'll be in business.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 17, 2008, 09:09:53 PM
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Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
I'm getting a Konami/Dewey vibe from Factor 5. Their first game is going to feature an adorable armadillo hero that's coming of age and has to save his golden cookies from the King of Alley Cats. And in a stunning display of innovation, he'll fold into a ball with the B button, where he can then be motion-controlled to squash enemies and roll into cannons.
"Rolly's Kookie Kwest" It'll get a 6.5!
You mean it'll feature a hero in a power suit with an arm cannon exploring large, maze-like levels with the ability to roll into a small ball, run over enemies, go through small passages and roll into cannons, right? Turrican Prime hooray!
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 18, 2008, 02:29:18 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
You mean it'll feature a hero in a power suit with an arm cannon exploring large, maze-like levels with the ability to roll into a small ball, run over enemies, go through small passages and roll into cannons, right? Turrican Prime hooray!
I know I'm sold on the idea!
It wouldn't be bad for Factor 5 to make a FPS on the Wii though. With some competent graphics engine, and well done Wii aiming (just rip off MOHH2) and the Wii could easily rival the 360 as the shooter machine of choice. Of course, that is provided Factor 5's engine is licensed to other developers. As long as it provides good graphics, and is meant to be licensed out to other, it doesn't even matter if the gameplay is good. F5 could just use it as a demo to attract other developers who are too lazy to do anything other than port their PS2 engines over.
I'm looking at you, Red Steel 2.
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 18, 2008, 02:43:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
With some competent graphics engine, and well done Wii aiming (just rip off MOHH2) and the Wii could easily rival the 360 as the shooter machine of choice..
I honestly can't believe that more developers aren't making FPS games for the Wii. With it's control scheme it is quite clearly a more fitting platform for a shooter than the 360, yet no one has hopped on the train. I suppose we can blame that on Nintendo for pushing the casual game machine image. Personally I hope this changes in time, but I won't count on it. As long as I get a new Timesplitters all is well.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 18, 2008, 06:18:01 AM
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Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 18, 2008, 10:13:31 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Shooters seem to sell mostly on graphics lately so the Wii has the controls but not the demographics.
What are you trying to say: Graphics or Demographics? Metal of Honor Heroes 2 sold rather well. It wasn't a blockbuster by any means, but the game itself wasn't exactly blockbuster material either.
If you're talking about graphics, just remember the Gamecube can do this:
Now imagine what someone like F5 can do with my RAM, and twice the speed. Now license out the technology, and you'll get plenty of respectable looking games on the Wii.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 18, 2008, 11:58:53 AM
I'll agree that Rebel Strike was great when you were controlling some sort of vehicle but even then when they annouced Rogue Squadron 3 I rolled my eyes because they already covered the original trilogy in pretty good detail in Rogue Leader. It felt very redundant, like Lucasarts was forcing them to bust out product that didn't need to be made. If it wasn't for a cool pre-order bonus and multiplayer Rogue Leader being included I wouldn't have gotten that interested in it. A fourth one seems even more unnecessary, unless they went into the prequels. But then I would rather have someone pull my intestines out of my ass than play it.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2008, 12:30:19 PM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 18, 2008, 02:11:06 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
So, if they ported Lair with improved motion controls, would you buy it?
Nope, I wouldn't buy it. It doesn't have appeal to me. At least Rogue Squadron has the appeal of the Star Wars franchise. I guess it wouldn't hurt if the made another Star Wars game based on Episode 1-3. I mean, those movies sucked, but it would be nice to see something different, yet still Star Wars.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 18, 2008, 07:13:06 PM
Post by: Maverick on January 18, 2008, 07:18:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I'll agree that Rebel Strike was great when you were controlling some sort of vehicle but even then when they annouced Rogue Squadron 3 I rolled my eyes because they already covered the original trilogy in pretty good detail in Rogue Leader. It felt very redundant, like Lucasarts was forcing them to bust out product that didn't need to be made. If it wasn't for a cool pre-order bonus and multiplayer Rogue Leader being included I wouldn't have gotten that interested in it. A fourth one seems even more unnecessary, unless they went into the prequels. But then I would rather have someone pull my intestines out of my ass than play it.
I'd be interested in an expanded universe setting, continuing the adventures of Rogue Squadron after the films. I think it would be neat to see them create and follow their own original story.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2008, 09:42:09 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I'm saying the Wii doesn't have enough graphics whores to sell FPSes to.
Brilliant observation.
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 18, 2008, 10:33:13 PM
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I'd be interested in an expanded universe setting, continuing the adventures of Rogue Squadron after the films. I think it would be neat to see them create and follow their own original story.
That would be awesome. I don't know if many of you have read the X-Wing series of Star Wars books, but there are some awesome battles in them. They could make some real magic if they did it properly. Then we could open into the Wraith Squadron side of things too, also covered in the books. There is another whole new set of battles and missions again.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 19, 2008, 08:06:27 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I'm saying the Wii doesn't have enough graphics whores to sell FPSes to.
That's a good point.
Post by: utarefsoN on January 19, 2008, 08:11:40 AM
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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
We're overdue for another PilotWiings
comments like these drive me nuts. Factor 5 wants to develop for the wii and your hoping for a pilot wings remake. Its like if Silicon Knights wants to develop for the wii and someone hopes for a super ghouls and ghost remake. Come on.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 19, 2008, 08:30:11 AM
However, I don't think I could trust Factor 5 with a franchise I actually care about...
Post by: Kairon on January 19, 2008, 08:49:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma FreakQuote
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I'm saying the Wii doesn't have enough graphics whores to sell FPSes to.
That's a good point.
That's why WE! The Nintendo core! Must become those consumers! To defeat the enemy, we must BECOME the enemy! Muahahahaha! MUAHAHAHAHA! HA HA HA HA HA HA BUY THIRD PARTIES GAMES HA HA HA IM SO SAD RIGHT NOW HA HA
... /cry
Post by: darknight06 on January 19, 2008, 12:11:04 PM
I think I'd rather not see another Pilotwings made, I can see nostalgia killing the game dead right out of the gate especially if a third party made it. They'd be better off releasing the original on the VC, that is if the tech allows for it... I remember that game being one of the harder SNES titles to emulate.
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Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 20, 2008, 05:04:01 AM
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Originally posted by: KaironQuote
Originally posted by: Terranigma FreakQuote
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I'm saying the Wii doesn't have enough graphics whores to sell FPSes to.
That's a good point.
That's why WE! The Nintendo core! Must become those consumers! To defeat the enemy, we must BECOME the enemy! Muahahahaha! MUAHAHAHAHA! HA HA HA HA HA HA BUY THIRD PARTIES GAMES HA HA HA IM SO SAD RIGHT NOW HA HA
... /cry
I know I won't be supporting a crappy game.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2008, 06:10:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
The rumor on Factor 5's game on the Wii is Kid Icarus
Just incase you missed it, The OFFICIAL 2008 Wii Rumor thread
Right now you can find that and a few other rumors in there too.
Post by: Crimm on January 20, 2008, 06:41:40 AM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
The rumor on Factor 5's game on the Wii is Kid Icarus
God I hope not. Give that to a dev that knows how to do on-foot.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 20, 2008, 06:50:40 AM
Post by: darknight06 on January 20, 2008, 09:07:05 AM
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It makes me sad that FPSs are so set on fancy, realistic graphics.
Team Fortress 2 says hi. Very clean, stylized look without the grunge and plays great too.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 20, 2008, 09:10:29 AM
Post by: Smoke39 on January 20, 2008, 09:52:02 AM
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Originally posted by: darknight06Quote
It makes me sad that FPSs are so set on fancy, realistic graphics.
Team Fortress 2 says hi. Very clean, stylized look without the grunge and plays great too.
I was very happy when Valve announced that TF2 would be cartoony instead of the realistic approach they were originally working toward. But TF2 is very much an exception to the overwhelming trend.
Post by: LuigiHann on January 20, 2008, 10:03:08 AM
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You know who should do Kid Icarus? Team Ninja
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