Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 13, 2008, 10:52:59 AM
I though Khush wasn't playing?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 13, 2008, 10:55:56 AM
He is. He got in right about fifteen minutes before sign-ups closed. I was surprised, myself.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 13, 2008, 12:03:12 PM
I'm staying true to my word in the Avatar Discussion:
EDIT: nulled
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: ShyGuy on January 13, 2008, 01:12:52 PM
Let's get this party started!
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on January 13, 2008, 01:44:14 PM
I think I actually have a copy of that lying around, Shyguy. I am going to need to look...
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: bustin98 on January 13, 2008, 02:05:43 PM
I wanna go play in the snow.
Anyone else want to make some yellow snowballs?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 13, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
Ok, I have one altercation! Calvin's Mom may attempt to mend Hobbes twice without issue! The first time, there's no consequence for a miss, but the second time, the mafia will find out who she is. Beyond that, she is allowed to continue attempting to mend Hobbes, but the mafia will know who she is if she misses Hobbes twice.
Also, when Hobbes returns to life, he will also be allowed to PM to Suzie.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 13, 2008, 03:16:21 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Sister Mary LeFever I think I actually have a copy of that lying around, Shyguy. I am going to need to look...
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 13, 2008, 03:28:53 PM
My brother and I grew up on Calvin and Hobbes, so not only do we most of the the collections, and all four of the collection collection compilations AND the 10th anniversary special edition, we also gave my younger brother what Pale has right there.
Calcin and Hobbes should be mandatory reading for every elementary school kid ever. It'll improve their vocabulary, perspective, and wit.
It has beautiful landscapes (of snow, wilderness, arizona landscapes and alien spacescapes, some in beautiful watercolor) It has poetry and music("How much is that tiger in the window? The one who does nothing but sleep? We'll spread him right out on the carpet, and have a new rug if he's cheap!) It has big words ("pair of pathetic peripathetics" and "salubrious") It has Shakespeare ("To die! To sleep! To sleep perchance to dream!")
How can you go wrong?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 13, 2008, 03:37:26 PM
I've got the four collections, several of the seasonal-ish collections, some of the random compilations (like Homicidal Psycho Jungle Cat), the Tenth Anniversary book, and the amazing Complete Collection books.
I love Calvin and Hobbes, and it's been too long since I read up on them, too.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: bustin98 on January 13, 2008, 03:50:47 PM
There's not enough Calvin avatars in this thread. What's wrong with you people?
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: wulffman04 on January 13, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
Quote Originally posted by: bustin98 There's not enough Calvin avatars in this thread. What's wrong with you people?
I now have one and I'm not even playing!
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 13, 2008, 04:47:18 PM
Interesting game so far.
Kairon is back. That is newsworthy by itself. But what's even more amazing is that he came back for one of the most complicated mafia games ever. Way to pick 'em.
Stevey didn't vote for me? What's this world coming to? Well, I take that to mean stevey is innocent since if he was mafia, he'd have no qualm voting for me. The reason being I'm not mafia.
Wait! Can I talk about my role? Let's see. The rule says:
Quote You may not send an image of your role, nor may you repeat anything I say to you in private message. Failure to comply with this rule will result in instant loss.
Ah. So as long as I don't repeat anything that Thatguy sent to me about my role, then I am in the clear. So, because of that, I can say I am mafia and everyone will know it isn't true. If it was true, then I would be repeating something Thatguy told me about my role and be killed. And that would be stupid.
What else is happening today? Hey look. A new player! Arbok. Hey, how are you doing? Welcome to your first mafia game. Hopefully not your last either. Interesting vote on Golden Phoenix. I'm going to chalk it up as a "not sure what to do" vote. You know, when its a person's first game and they aren't sure what to look for or what to expect so they just do something and hope people leave them alone for awhile.
While I might be interested in joining your vote, I'm going to leave Golden Phoenix alone for sometime. After two early exits, let's give the lady a chance to play for once and really get into the game.
And while I am tempted to vote for Arbok, I don't think he is mafia at the moment. If a new player is mafia, they usually wait a little bit before voting. You know, to ask the rest of their mafia crew any questions or ask what they should do. So, to vote so early suggests to me that he is innocent also. But, I'll be watching.
But most interesting of all is Pale with the early Vudu vote.
So, a little note to Vudu. (People can skip the next two paragraphs if they want.)
Now, this is a tough situation. I like Vudu. It may not always come across that way but I do. If I have a nemesis in this game, I think it would be Vudu. The man is impossible to read, like 18 Days. Most players, I can pick things up on by their actions but Vudu must have some kind of magic that he works on me because I never can find any inkling of what he is up to. So, I respect him for that. I know stevey may seem to be my nemesis but we actually have worked together quite successfully before. I think I've only worked with Vudu once and lately we seem to always be on the opposite side. Because of that constant battling, that is why I would call him my nemesis.
So, why is this a tough situation? Well, lately Vudu has been getting some early deaths. And I know I've been responsible for a few of these. Well, scratch that. Probably all of them since TVMan's mafia game to the present excluding the game I hosted. So, I just wanted to leave Vudu alone for once. I may call him my nemesis but that is to show my respect for him. I said at the end of the last game, I actually don't like backstabbing or casually dispatching players. It's because of reasons like this. I care about everyone who plays. But, as I also stated, if taking a player out is the best move to make, then I will still make it. So, sorry Vudu. I believe this is the best move to make. One of these games I'll find a way to make it up to you. But it doesn't look like it will be this game.
un-VOTE VUDU. I believe there is something at play here and I want to find out if I am on to something. I don't like voting Vudu but then I remember this:
Quote Screw that. We need to vote Khush out on day one because no matter what side he's on he'll find a way to screw over everyone else.
and I don't feel so bad.
EDIT: All that for nothing.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 13, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
Boo-ya! Another long mafia post. My streak continues.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 13, 2008, 04:58:36 PM
Whoopsie! Looks like I've been unintentionally unclear! You may discuss your role with other players unless I strictly forbade it for your specific role. I meant that my private messages could not be used verbatim to offer definitive proof of your role.
So to be clear, you can not post a picture of any PM, nor can you quote my PMs, either. However, you may discuss what I say in your own words, unless expressly forbidden. The two roles that may not own up to his or her own role are Calvin's Dad and the T-Rex in an F-14. All other players can claim they have whatever role they want, whether they have the role or not. Any questions?
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 13, 2008, 05:12:21 PM
Oh, well in that case, let's be clear. I am not mafia.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 13, 2008, 05:19:51 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Khushrenada Kairon is back. That is newsworthy by itself. But what's even more amazing is that he came back for one of the most complicated mafia games ever. Way to pick 'em.
That's because Calvin & Hobbes overrides my logic circuits. I really don't have much of a choice when there's this much awesome being offered up.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 13, 2008, 05:26:22 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Khushrenada Interesting vote on Golden Phoenix. I'm going to chalk it up as a "not sure what to do" vote.
It's retribution over her current avatar. Plus I said I would do it in the avatar discussion thread before the game started, so...
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Khushrenada Oh, well in that case, let's be clear. I am not mafia.
Hah.......that's what you said LAST TIME when I was working with you as MAFIA.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 13, 2008, 06:16:12 PM
No. I said I was the Brother. I wasn't included in the official mafia list even though I did work for them.
Honestly, it doesn't bother me to say what role I am. I am Hobbes. I can say this freely because I am almost invincible. As long as Calvin's mom puts in the order to mend me every night. I can not be stopped. I wasn't sure if I should wait on revealing that tidbit because of Rosalyn or if I should let the mafia waste a hit on me. After mulling it over, I've decided that I should speak up.
Obviously revealing my role last game was strategy to trick people. So, I can understand if people are hesitant to listen to me this time. No worries. Whether you believe me now or it requires me to die once, I will be proven correct. And this time, there are no tricks. Hobbes works with the classmates.
Finally, if you would like to work with me but don't want to reveal your role to me or can't not a problem. Just pm me and we can get things started. Plus, if you want further proof and have a role, just ask me to investigate you. You'll have your proof when I reveal your role to you.
Good night.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2008, 06:42:21 PM
Vote Khush
If he's telling the truth, then he'll come back to life. That's if Calvin's mom plays her part. Since Calvin's mom can make one mistake, I think it's worth checking if Khush is for real.
On one hand, if Khush is Hobbes, he'll come back to life and we'll know he's on the level. On the other hand, he'll die and will get rid of the best mafia player.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 13, 2008, 08:47:35 PM
Kash makes a lot of sense, so I am vote khush it is not personal but to see if he is telling the truth early on! Hopefully if he is Calvin his mother will be on the ball and save him.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Dasmos on January 13, 2008, 07:43:29 PM
Khush made a long post, I didn't read it, but I assume he had some long thought out reason for voting vudu. So that's good enough for me, VOTE VUDU
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: oohhboy on January 13, 2008, 10:20:42 PM
Khush is clearly the T-REX. You just don't look for that kind of attention unless your an Iraqi or a T-REX.
vote Sister Mary LeFever For giggles.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: 18 Days on January 13, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
Vote Golden Phoenix in solidarity with my comrades in the Writer's Guild.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Toruresu on January 14, 2008, 02:06:44 AM
Alright, VOTE 18 Days
Writer's Guild = Mafia to me
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: decoyman on January 14, 2008, 03:10:47 AM
My, Khush is in fine form today! I guess we'll find out if he really is Hobbes if he gets voted out and/or hit or whatever.
The only reason I can think of that he would want to draw attention like this is if he IS in fact Hobbes, and can be brought back to life easily. Unless he's trying to sabotage Calvin's Mom's one miss...
Ehhh... doesn't compute. That seems like it wouldn't be worth being out of the game on day 1. So, I'm going to vote for... someone who's not posting yet. If he comes in later on, I'll change my vote.
edit: I'm a man of my word, and Sessha just showed up. unVote Sessha.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on January 14, 2008, 03:33:24 AM
Voting Golden Phoenix because it's almost as good as trolling her posts
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Darkheart on January 14, 2008, 04:02:15 AM
Voting Khush He can come back from the dead for all I care but he will die once by the voters, I dont trust people that need to explain themselves in such legnthy posts.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 14, 2008, 04:14:05 AM
You people voting for me are making a big mistake. But if I need to die to prove myself well so be it, though I hope it doesn't come to that.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 14, 2008, 04:28:36 AM
Here's the tally of votes up to this point:
Khush - 3 Vudu - 3 GP - 3 Sessha - 1 Sister Mary LeFever - 1 18 Days - 2
I'd rather Khush live beyond the first couple days for once, and the same for GP. And since Khush seems so afraid of Vudu, I think we should keep vudu in as well to counter any awesome pwnfulness that Khush might throw at us.
... Gah. It's all a guess at this point anyways. I'll just vote against the legendary pietriot. Vote CHANGED That vote is counted in the standings above.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Zach on January 14, 2008, 04:41:54 AM
Quote Hobbes wins the game if a Calvin is still alive and the mafia loses. Hobbes can determine the affiliation of any character aside from Good Calvin, before he dies the first time. His ability also tells him if a character looks like Calvin or is Calvin. He can use this ability nightly up until his first death. After his first death, he has no extra abilities and is not allowed to be sent a private message by anyone other than Calvin or Suzie. After revival, he is only allowed to send Calvin and Suzie private messages. When Hobbes is mended, all players will learn of his role. Upon his first death, for some reason, Hobbes appears to be one of Calvin's classmates. Hobbes can talk in public, too.
In short it seems that khush is correct about hobbes being invincible if calvin's mom mends him. The only problem being that he loses a significant amount of his powers.
It seems really fishy to me that if he is really hobbes, that he would reveal it so easily at such an extreme cost to himself and the townies.
This still leads me to suspect Khush, Not because I want proof of his claim, but because he seems to be up to something and I dont like it
Edit: I will think on it and be back later, I gotta go over the rules some more, this game is complicated.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 14, 2008, 04:54:32 AM
I think that if Khush is Hobbes, he's just jazzed at not being killable for the first couple of days, lol.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: decoyman on January 14, 2008, 05:00:38 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon I think that if Khush is Hobbes, he's just jazzed at not being killable for the first couple of days, lol.
Plus, it's not quite true that he wouldn't have abilities after being brought back... I mean, no one can take away his silver tongue (er, silver fingers? but it'd be hard to type then...). I mean, even if he can't PM certain people he can still talk a blue streak in the daily thread, right?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 05:06:46 AM
I hate to barge into the daily thread with something that isn't about rules, but would someone with Photoshop skills make me a nice Tracer Bullet avatar? http://homepage.mac.com/tigershark/tracerbullet/tracer3.jpg That's got several Tracer strips in it to work with, too.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: decoyman on January 14, 2008, 05:12:33 AM
Stay tuned, thatguy...
No problemo.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 05:22:51 AM
I'd like to add that if the target of a mend is not dead, then the game merely states that a mending was attempted and it fails, and counts toward a miss, even if the target was Hobbes. If a dead target was chosen, then it lists that player, but any living target is not revealed to anyone.
MOST AWESOME! THANKS DECOYMAN!
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 14, 2008, 05:41:02 AM
I'm going to feel bad if Vudu dies today.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 14, 2008, 06:23:19 AM
Changed again...
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sessha on January 14, 2008, 06:33:58 AM
No Vote
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 14, 2008, 06:48:46 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Sessha Vote Vudu
My vote is in no way set in stone, I would just rather not get voted out the first day. But better me then GP since she's never lasted very long. Even if she has that god awful avatar.
Well as long as I live I will have THIS avatar.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 14, 2008, 06:52:24 AM
Now GP is threatening us to keep herself alive.
Interesting tactic.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sessha on January 14, 2008, 06:53:28 AM
Quote Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Quote Originally posted by: Sessha Vote Vudu
My vote is in no way set in stone, I would just rather not get voted out the first day. But better me then GP since she's never lasted very long. Even if she has that god awful avatar.
Well as long as I live I will have THIS avatar.
That's blackmail...
and it will probably work
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 14, 2008, 07:01:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Pale Now GP is threatening us to keep herself alive.
Interesting tactic.
Nope, it is just that I don't want the fat man to get me killed.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 14, 2008, 07:03:42 AM
So I'm voting for sessha now.
I think i'm just gonna put my vote up for use by anyone.
I'll vote for whomever with some restrictions the first person who PMs me to tells me to.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 14, 2008, 07:20:31 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Pale I'll vote for whomever with some restrictions the first person who PMs me to tells me to.
*Contemplates PMing with the instruction to "vote Pale"...*
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on January 14, 2008, 07:50:10 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Pale I'll vote for whomever with some restrictions the first person who PMs me to tells me to.
/Does so
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2008, 08:01:18 AM
Lot of mafia talk going on............
Suspicion list ----------------- Pale Arbok
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Plugabugz on January 14, 2008, 08:23:55 AM
How do you build upon the implications of the turmoil in potato markets across the globe? Buttered camel.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 14, 2008, 08:30:07 AM
Sister Mary told me to vote for myself...
This obviously doesn't work so the offer still stands.
I recommend Sessha does it so that I don't end up voting for them.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on January 14, 2008, 08:40:44 AM
Dear Journal,
First day of Mafia. My second game, hopefully I won't ruin it this time. I am just a townie, and will not repeat my mistake of voting on the first day. So far it has gone okay, Khushrenada is once again proving he has a gift for these sort of things. For some reason, oohboy voted for me. Strange...
But even stranger is that Pale refused to vote for himself. Perhaps he has something to hide?
-Sister Mary LeFever
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Plugabugz on January 14, 2008, 08:47:37 AM
They all do. Everybody lies.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Pale on January 14, 2008, 08:59:52 AM
Sessa wins...
Vote Sister Mare LeFever
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: vudu on January 14, 2008, 09:22:47 AM
I've read these rules like three times and I still don't fully understand them.
There are 5 mafia members--Good Calvin, Wormwood, Rosalyn, Lockjaw and Moe.
Good Calvin wins if mafia wins (by out-numbering the townies). Is this right?
Wormword only wins if all the Calvins are dead (besides Good Calvin) and Suzie is alive at the end of the game. Does Good Calvin have to be dead, too?
Rosalyn wins if either (A) the mafia wins by outnumbering the townies (meaning a Calvin is alive). Does Suzie need to be dead for Rosalyn to win (the wording is unclear)? Does Moe count as a "player Calvin's age"? He shaves, so he probably doesn't need a babysitter.
Lockjaw needs all the Calvins to be dead (besides Good Calvin) to win. He can still win even if the other townie roles (such as Hobbes and Calvin's Parents) are still alive. Right?
Moe only wins if the mafia wins and at least one remaining Calvin is still alive. So what happens if all the townie Calvins are dead but the are non-townie Calvin roles still around? Does he keep playing even if it's impossible for him to win?
When does the game end? Does the game end as soon as the first person wins the game? For example, if all the townie Calvins die does Moe win and the game automatically ends?
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on January 14, 2008, 09:24:39 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Pale Sessa wins...
Vote Sister Mare LeFever
At least spell my name right if you are going to threaten me...
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: vudu on January 14, 2008, 09:28:37 AM
Quote Originally posted by: thatguy Each day, everyone in the town votes to kill a member of the town, or if the townies elect, they can choose not to vote as well. The player with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched.
Does this mean that in order not to have a daily-lynching everyone needs to abstain from voting or can we simply choose to vote NO VOTE and if more people vote NO VOTE than anyone particular individual no one gets voted off that day?
If it's the second one, I love that idea. If it's the fist one, that's dumb because we're never going to have a day where absolutely no one votes.
Regardless, since it's the first day, I vote NO VOTE. It sucks getting voted out on the first day.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on January 14, 2008, 09:31:27 AM
Indeed. I agree with Vudu. We are all working off of guesses right now.
NO VOTE
I do hope this works.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 14, 2008, 12:12:06 PM
Well, since "avatar-o-eyesore" is now gone, I guess it's time to change my vote (before the servers have another hiccup and I can't). Part of me wants to vote for Khushrenada to see if he is telling the truth about being Hobbes, although a resurrected Hobbes isn't nearly as valuable and hopefully he would be able to ID someone to prove his role soon anyway. So I will jump on the recently started bandwagon:
NO VOTE
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: ShyGuy on January 14, 2008, 12:15:06 PM
Vote Sister Mary Lefever I may change this in the future.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 12:15:32 PM
You can vote for "No vote" and no one will be killed if this option wins. So yes, you actually "elect" No-vote. You can't lynch with most of the mob not wanting to kill, right?
As far as when the game ends, it's when all players have either won or lost: For example, if the game is still on if Moe has lost, but there is a possibility for Suzie to win. Moe would be a "Rogue mafia agent." He doesn't have to play if he doesn't want to, but since there's no way for him to win, he can do whatever he wants until he is dead. All players are done playing the game when they die, except possibly Hobbes. Until they die, they can play the game whether they've won or lost, unless there's no more chances for anyone to win. In this sense, the typical "Mafia outnumbers townie = mafia win" is nullified until the T-Rex is gone, but Suzie can be alive and this win can be fulfilled. BTW, Suzie does not count as a townie. Basically, the game should be over when the T-rex is gone and the mafia wins or loses. That's a good measuring stick.
For the mafia to lose, all of the mafia has to be dead, except Mrs. Wormwood, and for the mafia to win, the townies have to be outnumbered while the T-rex is dead.
For the townies to win, the mafia has to lose. Does that clear it up, or are there more questions.
I know this is complicated, and I know there's a ton of rules this time, but my main goal is to create a game where no one can really be trusted entirely.
As far as Rosalyn goes, she can win if Moe or Calvins are alive. Moe, more than anyone, needs a babysitter, but Suzie is mature enough to be home alone. With Mrs. Wormwood, Good Calvin can be alive at the end. It's right there in the parenthesis. You are correct about Mr. Lockjaw. When all townie-side Calvins are dead, he wins, then and there, regardless of anything else. He may still play until he dies.
Edit: Let me also say this: If Moe wins, he wins, but he probably won't win the prize unless he helps someone else win, too. So the incentive for an individual to play after he or she wins is to try to garner support for the prize. The hopes are that the prize will go to the individual that won that helped the most other people win, too. Does this make sense?
Any more questions?
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Plugabugz on January 14, 2008, 12:39:16 PM
Because of this, i no vote. NO VOTE
Edit: Fixed.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
Please bold your votes or the words "No Vote" if you want this to be your vote. Remember, you may change your vote at any time up until your post or edit says 12:01 am EST. As of this post, there are five hours, twenty-three minutes until the day ends.
I have tallied the totals thus far: Vudu--2 Khush--3 SMLF--2 GP--2 18 Days--2 No Vote--6
Toruresu, you voted for 18 Days, but did not bold your vote. I counted your vote, but please bold them from now on.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: 18 Days on January 14, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
WHAT THE HELL! Who would vote for me! Filthy swines!
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 12:51:21 PM
Toruresu and Kairon. I noted that as well. If people like, when I post the tallies, I can post who voted for whom, as well. I tally that to double-check my counting.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 14, 2008, 01:53:23 PM
I like this no vote thing. Let's just NOT kill anybody as much as possible, and actually have a civilized mafia game for once.
No Vote
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: ShyGuy on January 14, 2008, 01:59:20 PM
The mafia will win for sure if we just novote every day. The first day it does make sense though...
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 14, 2008, 02:10:14 PM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy The mafia will win for sure if we just novote every day. The first day it does make sense though...
One can hope Hobbes can get the ball rolling too with some sleuthing, unless he ends up questioning townies...
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 02:11:29 PM
Remember, night actions are due by midnight! Make sure you have yours in by then!
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: ShyGuy on January 14, 2008, 02:17:32 PM
Voting stops at 12:00am EST, 9:00pm PST?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 02:19:26 PM
Yes, or, in other words, voting stops about three hours and forty minutes from the time of this very post. Of course, NWR's time zones are off right now due to the forum change, so just align your clock with the current NWR clock. Right now it's about 8:20 EST, BTW.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2008, 02:30:34 PM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy The mafia will win for sure if we just novote every day. The first day it does make sense though...
That does make a lot of sense. I'm still keeping my vote for khush because it doesn't whether I change it or not.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: vudu on January 14, 2008, 02:40:52 PM
Quote Originally posted by: KashogiStogi That does make a lot of sense. I'm still keeping my vote for khush because it doesn't whether I change it or not.
Sounds like someone is looking for an excuse to vote someone out. Kashogi = Mafia, confirmed.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Zach on January 14, 2008, 03:53:53 PM
NO VOTE
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: decoyman on January 14, 2008, 03:59:38 PM
I'm down with this No Vote movement.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 14, 2008, 04:09:10 PM
Seriously, as much as I love my not getting voted out streak, I would recommend that people vote me out today. Why? Allow me to reason it out, cause I love to do that.
Yes, I lose investigative powers. Big whoop. I can piddle around for a few days and examine a few people and hope to find something good. Or I can die, have Calvin's mom mend me and come back, fully vindicated as being Hobbes and being innocent. Now, people with townie roles can freely contact knowing that there is someone they can trust with the role and get the townie alliance going early. The faster the alliaince, the greater the chance of victory. This has been proven. Moreover, by having people tell me their roles knowing that I am Hobbes, I'll find these a lot faster than if I had to investigate them every day. In two days, I could learn two roles investigating or 6 roles by dying and coming back. Which is smarter. Plus, it then makes it a simple matter of logical elimination over who might be a mafia member.
Finally, even when I am dead, I can still recieve messages from the living so its not like I will be out of the loop over what is happening.
Plus, by voting me out, we know for sure that I will be dead tonight, thus we don't have to play a game of chicken with the mafia over whether they will or will not hit me. This means Calvin's mom doesn't have to worry about making a mistake mend. It will be for sure.
Finally, although I will be able to only pm a two people as per the rule of my role, I can still lead the townie alliance and the mafia can't do much about it. If they hit me, I can be brought back, so they just waste a hit on me. Every hit they waste on me, puts them further behind in the numbers game, which makes it more likely for them to lose.
At this point, the mafia may realize that it is smarter to leave me alone than hit me tonight since it will slow down progress of the townie alliance and will become a wasted hit. Plus, if they don't hit me, they may hope for Calvin's mom to make a mistake by mending me when I don't need it.
So, we are left with two options:
1. The townies vote me out. I've outlined the benefit of doing this above.
2. The mafia hits me. Again, it might be best to just wait for the mafia to hit me and then mend me when I am declared dead to make sure there is no mistake. The benefit here is that wastes a mafia hit and I keep my investigative powers for awhile. Plus, I can still receive messages when I am dead so people can start contacting me then so that when I am brought back, I'll be prepared and ready to act.
Regardless, I don't fear death on my part. Rather, I encourage it. But if people are going to leave me alive, I wish the townies would just tell me their roles. That way, I can use the investigative powers I have to try to locate mafia members instead of townie roles.
Well, I've outlined my case and feelings on the matter. Think about this LOGICALLY. It all makes perfect sense. If you still have questions, feel free to ask me anything. Choose the course you think would handle this situation the best. They all have plus and minuses but they all work towards the ultimate goal of victory.
And I won't be voting for Vudu today either.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 14, 2008, 04:25:59 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Khushrenada Now, people with townie roles can freely contact knowing that there is someone they can trust with the role and get the townie alliance going early. The faster the alliaince, the greater the chance of victory. This has been proven. Moreover, by having people tell me their roles knowing that I am Hobbes, I'll find these a lot faster than if I had to investigate them every day.
Ummm...
"After [Hobbes] first death, he has no extra abilities and is not allowed to be sent a private message by anyone other than Calvin or Suzie. After revival, he is only allowed to send Calvin and Suzie private messages."
How are we supposed to tell you our roles in this scenario? A resurrected Hobbes can no longer investigate people and can only communicate through PMs with Suzie and Calvin, and that goes both ways. Getting a few investigations in sounds much more worthwhile as opposed to this. Not to mention there is always the risk that Calvin's Mom might be randomly killed.
How about instead you just blurt out someone you investigated tomorrow and work from there rather than sacrificing yourself early on and losing the ability to do so?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 14, 2008, 04:40:19 PM
Hmm, Arbok brings up a good point...but really Khush probably just overlooked those rules. There is so many crazy roles in this game, I don't even understand what is going on.
I am going to join the NO VOTE movement.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Arbok on January 14, 2008, 04:47:54 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Spak-Spang Hmm, Arbok brings up a good point...but really Khush probably just overlooked those rules.
I would wager so as well...
And just to make it clear: I wasn't trying to jump on Khush's back, I have a habit of sounding confrontational, but was just outlaying that sacrificing Hobbes is a huge waste of a valuable resource, even if he only gets to work his "magic" for a few days.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 14, 2008, 04:50:08 PM
Dang it. That is a good point. Sorry about that. Thatguy is trying to do all he can to make sure I can't gain a big advantage. I can't fault him for that but I keep have to asking what I can and can not do. I guess this provides a bit of incentive for people to with roles to talk to me now. Even townies. That way, I can at least assign people codenames now. That way, when I am brought back and can not talk to people by messages, I will still have a way to talk to them without giving away their identity.
Moreover, I believe I have found a special system that will work to the benefit of all townies or people with roles for when I am brought back by Calvin's mom. If you are still wary about contacting me and giving away your role, feel free to say you are a townie and ask what my system is and get a codename.
So, I guess we'll see what the mafia wants to do tonight. Keep me alive with suspicion or kill me in the hopes that limiting my messages will hamper me.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: bustin98 on January 14, 2008, 05:07:57 PM
Well, I don't agree with the no vote idea. And at this point it doesn't matter if I wanted to vote someone or not, other than it feeding conspiracy theories later down the road.
What the hell, Vote Pale, cause I wanted to last game and didn't actually do it.
Go Townies!
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 05:26:47 PM
There's a little over half an hour left!
Alright, listen closely, roled players: All roles need to have sent in an action today for tonight and tomorrow! I have not received all actions in yet, and so I must conclude one of two things: Either some roled players don't want to use their abilities, or that there's been a hiccup and I lost your PM. If you're worried I did not receive your PM, send me another one, I don't mind. Remember there were some server changes today, so a message or two may have been lost!
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 14, 2008, 05:39:15 PM
Alright. A few people have asked me about my code strategy for what to do when I come back. However, if you do not want to participate in my vote strategy and are afraid I may take your vote to be a message to me, you can do one of two things. Vote for someone not on the list or vote for yourself. When I acknowledge your vote by your codename, you will then be free to vote for whomever you want knowing that I will not take it to mean something it is not.
So, that should take care of all scenarios.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 05:51:57 PM
Less than ten minutes...
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: stevey on January 14, 2008, 05:54:04 PM
Vote for gp
Reason: avatar + to screw khush
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 06:02:23 PM
Polls are closed!
The next day will be up when I figure out everything that's happened over the night. I want to make sure there weren't any server mistakes with PMs.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 06:12:36 PM
I know, double post.
Since today is the first day, there will be a thirty minute extension to the end of the night action deadline. You have until 12:30 PM to get in your night actions. Disregard what I've said in PMs otherwise.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 14, 2008, 06:13:27 PM
Quote Originally posted by: stevey Vote for gp
Reason: avatar + to screw khush
Well except for the fact that Khush has basically stated to vote him out to test him, I fail to see how that is screwing him.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: stevey on January 14, 2008, 06:19:35 PM
khush 3 gp 3
no one dies in a tie khush=losses (unless t voted/or some got raped)
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 14, 2008, 06:22:13 PM
But the No Vote is higher than either, so no one will die anyways between GP and Khush.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 06:23:14 PM
Well, considering the players can elect not to lynch anyone by choosing "No Vote," no one was going to die from the vote, anyways.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 14, 2008, 06:23:55 PM
A tie vote means I can choose someone to kill also. Hello Stevey.
On another note, remember this rule about my role: Upon his first death, for some reason, Hobbes appears to be one of Calvin's classmates. So don't be surprised if I am revealed as a townie at death instead of Hobbes. It's the way the role works.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 14, 2008, 06:24:11 PM
Doesn't Sister Mary LeFever also have 3 votes?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 06:25:23 PM
It doesn't matter, No Vote won the vote, which means that no one was lynched.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: stevey on January 14, 2008, 06:29:28 PM
what?
Quote In the event of a tie, in the chance that a player is protected from death, or anything of the sort, absolutely nothing will happen to the character in relation to the tie or protection. So yes, ties are stalemates and no one dies. Protections prevent some investigations, attacks, and various abilities, depending on the benefit, and no players will be notified of success or who protected whom, or anything of the sort.
gah can some one explain the rules in plain english....
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2008, 06:37:30 PM
So what up with this prize?
Do we vote on the most valuable player again?
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Yes, it's the same as last time, for the most part.
As far as the vote goes, choosing not to kill someone is an option. This was chosen tonight, by far the majority chose this option.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 14, 2008, 06:40:25 PM
Me am confused.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: that Baby guy on January 14, 2008, 06:43:11 PM
There's nothing to be confused about. No one died from the vote today. The majority of the players chose not to lynch anyone, so no one died from the vote. That's it.
Title: RE:Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Khushrenada on January 14, 2008, 06:55:36 PM
I'm sorry. Can you explain what just happened again.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Kairon on January 14, 2008, 06:56:48 PM
No one died because, like, 6 people voted "NO VOTE" meaning, they voted that nobody die at all.
Title: RE: Homicidal Psycho Jungle: School Day 1
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2008, 07:00:07 PM