Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Guymelef on March 27, 2003, 03:40:38 AM
Title: SLDLE?
Post by: Guymelef on March 27, 2003, 03:40:38 AM
Maybe it's just me, but you know when you like slide around walls and stuff, how the A button is supposed so say slide. is it just my copy or does it say sldle? or is sldle, some word i don't know of. other than that i love this game, have had much time to play it with work and school, but right now i'm stuck trying to get into the forest place, i can't get the right wind.
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Post by: RickPowers on March 27, 2003, 04:53:25 AM
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Post by: Grey Ninja on March 27, 2003, 09:12:01 AM
It's amazing how many people just don't know English, and keep on thinking that they have found spelling mistakes. lol.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 27, 2003, 10:30:21 AM
I knew that it said sidle but never paid any attention to it, maybe because I knew what it meant just by the reaction of doing it.
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Post by: Griffin on March 27, 2003, 11:37:34 AM
Wow, heh....I must be illiterate, I had thought it said "Slide", as in sliding against a wall...oh well, thanks for clearing that up Rick
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Post by: Hostile Creation on March 27, 2003, 12:24:42 PM
People seem to be having immense difficulty with the Wind Waker vocabulary. Fell and sidle. . .
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Post by: Grey Ninja on March 27, 2003, 01:20:08 PM
Actually, I am really enjoying the translation of Wind Waker. It doesn't use a lot of dummied down vocabulary like a lot of games use, and contains some real value in the writing. I love that.
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Post by: 3_MaSteRPIeCE on March 27, 2003, 03:00:30 PM
Well i just transferred to a different school last year and i'm reading Shakespear for the second time so i have no problem withstuff like fell.
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Post by: Strell on March 27, 2003, 05:24:44 PM
Ok the comments aimed at me in this thread are pretty off-base. I've never seen fell used in that context, and I thought I had a point, but it turns out I was wrong. Continuing a lot of condescension about it is pretty lame.
I'm planning on double majoring, with English being the second, so you can seriously stop acting like I'm a moron or something.
Geez.
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Post by: Kimchi on March 27, 2003, 06:12:36 PM
Here's a tip to anyone who thinks they see a misprint or typo in a Zelda game: Before posting about it, use a dictionary. You might read something like "flamdingblooing" and be pretty sure it isn't a word, but hey, it's always good just to look it up at m-w.com just in case.
I've seen plenty of grammatical errors in WW, but they're in the conversations and none of them are any worse than the mistakes people tend to make in real life. For example, the contraction "There's" used with a plural subject, improper use of "begs the question," etc. I suppose it would be less realistic if everyone spoke perfect English.
Yes, I know I typed a sentence fragment... sue me.
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Post by: faile' on March 28, 2003, 08:16:32 AM
I and my brother have been pleasantly surprised at the moral suggestions in this game. Like the "don't stay up all night playing" and there were a few more I can't remember right now.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on March 28, 2003, 10:26:19 AM
Have you been to the Nintendo Figure Gallery?
The guy has some interesting things to say when you first arrive... Mainly a message to Nintendo's fans. hehe
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Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2003, 10:58:49 AM
"It's amazing how many people just don't know English, and keep on thinking that they have found spelling mistakes. lol. "
Yeah, well the English language has over 100,000 words- forgive someone if they don't know ALL of them. Truthfully, I don't think anyone will ever master any language, native tongue or not. And "sidle" isn't exactly a word that you hear every day. I knew what it meant when I saw it, but I've never seen it used really at all except in Wind Waker.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on March 28, 2003, 12:43:09 PM
Quote Originally posted by: mouse_clicker "It's amazing how many people just don't know English, and keep on thinking that they have found spelling mistakes. lol. "
Yeah, well the English language has over 100,000 words- forgive someone if they don't know ALL of them. Truthfully, I don't think anyone will ever master any language, native tongue or not. And "sidle" isn't exactly a word that you hear every day. I knew what it meant when I saw it, but I've never seen it used really at all except in Wind Waker.
According to my high school English teacher, the average english speaker only has a vocabulary of 500 words. That's just plain sad. It's true that 100,000 words is a lot of words, and nobody is expected to use them all. However, I do think it's reasonable to acnowledge that those words exist, and pay some homage to them.
Sidle is not a common word, but when I saw it, it was familiar enough to recognize immediately what it meant. Any native speaker of english SHOULD have been able to do that. To immediately assume it is a spelling error is a little "strange" to me.
Granted though, using "fell" in that context is something that only the more literate among us would pick up on. It seems very natural to me however, given the context it was used in. It was used in an old legend being shown to the player. It's natural that a slightly higher form of english would be used.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2003, 03:48:02 PM
"the average english speaker only has a vocabulary of 500 words. "
Now I seriously doubt that's in reference to adults- granted the person in question may not be an adult, but I know some quite "dumb" kids who have vocabularies far above 500 words.
"However, I do think it's reasonable to acnowledge that those words exist, and pay some homage to them."
I agree it's good to acknowledge new words and add them to your vocabulary (that's what I do, and if you ask me my vocabulary is pretty extensive), but paying "homage" I think is a bit eccentric, don't you?
"Any native speaker of english SHOULD have been able to do that. To immediately assume it is a spelling error is a little "strange" to me."
Not quite- if one has never encountered the word "sidle", they probably wouldn't be able to guess its meaning right away. Given the situation in Zelda (where it pretty much demonstrates what sidling is), maybe so. But remember that the word "sidle" is written in very small text on a very small picture of the A button and Guymelef may be playing the game on a small TV. Especially on lower resolutions and worse TV's, words tend to run together (I had a horrible problem with this until I got my new TV, a 20", about 2 weeks ago). In such a case, it would be very easy to mistake "sidle" for "slide", especially when they contain the same letters in almost the exact same order, "i"s tend to resemble "l"s, again, especially on lower quality settings, and they have almost the same meaning. Given all these circumstances, I think it would be perfectly plausible that someone would mistake the word for a misspelling of "slide".
"Granted though, using "fell" in that context is something that only the more literate among us would pick up on. It seems very natural to me however, given the context it was used in. It was used in an old legend being shown to the player. It's natural that a slightly higher form of english would be used. "
"Fell" is more Old English, and I've only seen in used in such cases (in Lord of the Rings, book and movie, and Wind Waker).
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Post by: misterd on March 29, 2003, 08:45:57 AM
Your English teacher is incorrect*. Check this site for more info: http://www.balancedreading.com/vocabulary.html
WHile I cannot vouch for its accuracy, its numbers fit what I have seen elsewhere and they do a good job sizing up the problems in finding a true measure of vocabulary.
*Feel free to tell her, and tell her another teacher (me) told you so.
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Post by: Koopa Troopa on March 29, 2003, 01:52:39 PM
Quote The guy has some interesting things to say when you first arrive... Mainly a message to Nintendo's fans. hehe
Hell yeah! That was the best!
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Post by: mouse_clicker on March 29, 2003, 01:56:56 PM
Hehe- according to that article, 5 year olds have a working vocabulary of 2,500-5,000 words, and they learned roughly 3,000 more a year during the earlier stages of their life. I think your English teacher was mistaken.
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Post by: thepoga on March 29, 2003, 09:28:21 PM
errr... why are u guys debating about these sort of things?
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Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 30, 2003, 05:07:53 AM
I just find it ironic how everyone's vocabulary seemed to increase in this thread from the usual found on the boards. Just something I thought I would point out.
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Post by: FFantasyFX on March 30, 2003, 08:12:40 AM
The book we're using in my Introductory Linguistics class claims that a child of six knows as many as 13,000 words and that the average high school graduate knows about 60,000. While I tend to think that this is a bit of an overexaggeration, I think most people would be surprised to find out how much knowledge of their native language they actually have.