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Title: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: StrikerObi on November 05, 2007, 02:04:03 AM
It's-a me! In addition, the first Genesis import title!
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=14740

 WII-KLY UPDATE: GREATEST GAME EVER ANNOUNCED FOR WII SHOP CHANNEL    


Eagerly awaiting the arrival of Super Mario Galaxy™ next week? Can't get Mario™ out of your head? You and everybody else! To whet your appetite for all things Mario, Nintendo is offering a special treat on the Virtual Console™ this week. It's not just any game, it's Super Mario Bros. 3™ – considered by many to be the greatest video game of all time (for at least one more week, anyway). It's a must-have title on a week that also features the first Virtual Console import title for Sega Genesis and a fun multiplayer golf game for TurboGrafx16.    


Today Nintendo adds three new classic games to the popular Wii™ video game system's Wii Shop Channel. The games go live at 9 a.m. Pacific time. Nintendo adds new games to the channel every Monday. Wii owners with a high-speed Internet connection can redeem Wii Points™ to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased via the Wii Shop Channel or at retail outlets. This week's new games are:    


Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES®, 1-2 players, Rated E for Everyone, 500 Wii Points): Remember when no one had ever heard of a Tanooki Suit or knew that Bowser™ had a clan of Koopalings? The game that made these things common knowledge is also considered by many to be one of the best ever made. Bowser and the Koopalings are causing chaos yet again, but this time they're going beyond the Mushroom Kingdom into the seven worlds that neighbor it. Now Mario and Luigi™ must battle new enemies, returning favorites and a new Koopaling in each unique and distinctive world on their way to ultimately taking on Bowser himself. Luckily for the brothers, they have more power-ups available than ever before. Fly above the action using the Super Leaf, swim faster by donning the Frog Suit or defeat enemies using the Hammer Bros. Suit. Use the brand-new overworld map to take the chance to play a minigame in hopes of gaining extra lives or to find a Toad's House where you can pick up additional items. All this (and more) combines into one of gaming's most well-known and beloved titles—are you ready to experience gaming bliss?    


Alien Soldier™ (Sega Genesis, 1 player, Rated E10+ for Everyone 10 and Older –Fantasy Violence, 900 Wii Points): As Epsilon-Eagle, you are an alien soldier who has been genetically engineered to produce maximum intelligence and strength. You were once a member of the criminal organization Scarlet, but when you decided to break from the group, you were forced into a showdown with Scarlet's new leader Xi-Tiger, who kills a hostage in his attempt to destroy you. Now it's up to you to take revenge against the bad guys in this side-scrolling action game! Choose from six different weapons and battle the bosses of Scarlet until you reach the final confrontation with the ultimate secret weapon!    


Power Golf (TurboGrafx16, 1-3 players, Rated E for Everyone, 600 Wii Points): Power Golf sports a perfect combination of simple-yet-realistic controls and beautiful graphics. Swing away on 18 lush holes in one of three different game modes: the single-player STROKE PLAY mode and the multiplayer MATCH PLAY and COMPETITION modes. Enter tournaments as one of three different characters—beginner, intermediate and advanced. Wind strength and the slope of the green add extra challenges to each hole. Compete against other players in the standard NORMAL MATCH or ante up one of your clubs in the unique CLUB MATCH. Up to three players can play in COMPETITION mode, and a handicap feature is included to help novice players pull off breathtaking shots just like their advanced rivals.

Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: ryro on November 05, 2007, 02:28:50 AM
Super Mario World is the greatest game of all time!  Or at least my favorite Mario game.  =)
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: shammack on November 05, 2007, 02:38:24 AM
Well, I can already play Mario 3 on my SNES or GBA... but I can't play it on Wii yet, so I guess I'll have to buy it yet again.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: KDR_11k on November 05, 2007, 04:01:49 AM
Hah, Alien Soldier is only 800 points here!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Ian Sane on November 05, 2007, 05:07:23 AM
Treasure is turning out to be the coolest dev on the VC with two long requested localizations as well as Gunstar Heroes.  Now I don't know if they even make the call since they're not the publishers but still if you like Treasure the VC is a cheap and easy way to get some of their best stuff.

Super Mario Bros 3 is obviously a big release though since it's been widely available in some form pretty much since it first came out it seems routine for it to be available.  It's still probably one of the top five VC releases period though.  Big week.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 05, 2007, 08:02:50 AM
Alien Soldier is not an import title. It was available in the US via the Sega Channel (just like Golden Axe III was only available in the US through the Sega Channel).
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Ian Sane on November 05, 2007, 08:29:15 AM
"Alien Soldier is not an import title. It was available in the US via the Sega Channel"

Oh well I guess I better take back any praise.  Releasing a game that was unavailable in a format for Americans to own and is thus impossible to obtain in the used game market just doesn't cut it compared to localizing a game from Japan.  My bad.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 05, 2007, 08:46:22 AM
Super Mario Bros. 3 should have been a launch title for the VC, along with a bunch of other games that came out later. In my opinion, which isn't legally binding yet, it's the greatest game ever made, and I will be downloading it myself as soon as I can.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NeoThunder on November 05, 2007, 09:55:05 AM
So?.....what is the other mario's yet to come to VC

Besides, we should all fight the urge and hold out for Mario All-Stars!!!!!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: IceCold on November 05, 2007, 10:05:54 AM
OH!! I just remembered! I was going to do a "Mario Marathon" before Galaxy came out - playing every single Mario platformer in order on one console. Now with SMB2 JPN and SMB3 released, it will come true! I can blast past the 2D games, but I'll really need to pull up my socks when I get to Mario 64 and Sunshine if I want to finish them all in a week.

I don't consider Yoshi's Island to be a true Mario platformer, however great it is. I wonder when it'll come out.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: King of Twitch on November 05, 2007, 01:08:39 PM
Not to mention Super Mario Land 1&2
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: IceCold on November 05, 2007, 01:46:07 PM
Hmm, they were made by Gunpei Yokoi and (what is now) Intelligent Systems, though.. not EAD. And I think New Super Mario Bros was made by EAD, but not the Mario team (they went to EAD Tokyo).

Still, these are technicalities. You're right - I'd be playing every console Mario platformer on one system.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: wandering on November 05, 2007, 01:48:18 PM
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WII-KLY UPDATE: GREATEST GAME EVER ANNOUNCED FOR WII SHOP CHANNEL

Nintendo must have forgotten that they released Super Mario 64.  
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: IceCold on November 05, 2007, 02:00:44 PM
You were born too late, wandering
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: TrueNerd on November 05, 2007, 02:55:03 PM
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WII-KLY UPDATE: GREATEST GAME EVER ANNOUNCED FOR WII SHOP CHANNEL BACK IN AUGUST WHEN SUPER METROID CAME OUT


Fixed.

And Super Mario World is better then SMB3.  
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 05, 2007, 03:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
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WII-KLY UPDATE: GREATEST GAME EVER ANNOUNCED FOR WII SHOP CHANNEL BACK IN AUGUST WHEN SUPER METROID CAME OUT


Fixed.

And Super Mario World is better then SMB3.


Haha. WRONG.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Mashiro on November 05, 2007, 04:01:40 PM
I agree, Super Mario World was a better game than SMB3.

In my eyes at least. I sometimes don't understand why people go ga-ga over SMB3. It's a great game but I think SMW was far better due to the new technology behind the game.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Kairon on November 05, 2007, 04:04:32 PM
I really, really respect SM3... but Super Mario World is what I personally look at as the "complete package." SM3 is... it could get really hardcore. SMW was for everybody (i.e. me)  right out of the gate.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 05, 2007, 04:04:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
I agree, Super Mario World was a better game than SMB3.

In my eyes at least. I sometimes don't understand why people go ga-ga over SMB3. It's a great game but I think SMW was far better due to the new technology behind the game.


Sad, just sad.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Mashiro on November 05, 2007, 04:23:19 PM
What's sad about it?

SMW was far more fun to me than SMB3. SM3 was fun but I just enjoyed the SMW experience.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 05, 2007, 04:28:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
What's sad about it?

SMW was far more fun to me than SMB3. SM3 was fun but I just enjoyed the SMW experience.


Well, except for Kairon, I think we can agree that both are better than Far Cry and Alien Syndrome.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Kairon on November 05, 2007, 04:37:14 PM
*shakes fist*
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 05, 2007, 05:13:11 PM
Person who likes SMW better than SMB3 = Graphics Whore
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Djunknown on November 05, 2007, 05:30:12 PM
So the eternal debate of SMB3 vs SMW rages on...

Its good to have the pure unadulertated version though. When I'm running it on an S-video hookup via an LCD TV, there's something up with the edge of the screens. Its like there's   some little green blocks at the edge of the screen that flicker every now and again. I have a Magnavox 32 in TV. Anyone else get this?
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 05, 2007, 05:40:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Djunknown
So the eternal debate of SMB3 vs SMW rages on...

Its good to have the pure unadulertated version though. When I'm running it on an S-video hookup via an LCD TV, there's something up with the edge of the screens. Its like there's   some little green blocks at the edge of the screen that flicker every now and again. I have a Magnavox 32 in TV. Anyone else get this?


It is Bowser changing the world ahead of you with his wand!
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: KDR_11k on November 05, 2007, 06:06:04 PM
SMW > SMB3 because the levels are more fun (and longer), secrets are more meaningful and instead of a crapload of items that you almost never use they only have a small amount of permanent powerups but those are more evolved and well integrated into the level design.

As for the flickering, the NES didn't have enough vid memory to do the tile swaps for scrolling offscreen so you'd see a row of tiles scroll in from the right before it gets replaced with the proper tiles (the alternative would have been tileswaps as the tiles leave the screen so you get the flicker on the left).

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Treasure is turning out to be the coolest dev on the VC with two long requested localizations as well as Gunstar Heroes.  Now I don't know if they even make the call since they're not the publishers but still if you like Treasure the VC is a cheap and easy way to get some of their best stuff.

Super Mario Bros 3 is obviously a big release though since it's been widely available in some form pretty much since it first came out it seems routine for it to be available.  It's still probably one of the top five VC releases period though.  Big week.


As I said, Alien Soldier is not considered import in Europe and the game is completely in English here.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 05, 2007, 06:18:16 PM
Mario Bros 3 is perhaps the most balanced, varied, and well designed Mario's ever. In balance I am talking about difficulty, SMW was for the most part super easy while SMB3 had was much more balanced even if you cheated and used the warp whistles. Also it had GIANT WORLD, SMW didn't have that!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: ShyGuy on November 05, 2007, 06:28:02 PM
Super Mario Bros 3 is a 10/10. Anyone who disagrees is flat out factually wrong. It's math people! You can't argue with math!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 05, 2007, 06:39:13 PM
SMB3 also has Kuribo's shoe, the Hammer Suit, and more levels (they may be shorter than those in World, but I felt that a lot of World levels go on too long). World doesn't have much variety in its stages compared to 3, and just doesn't have the magic of 3. World is a great game, but a huge disappointment when you think of it as the follow-up to SMB3.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 05, 2007, 06:41:10 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Super Mario Bros 3 is a 10/10. Anyone who disagrees is flat out factually wrong. It's math people! You can't argue with math!


SMB3 is not a 10/10, it's a 42/10. Not only is it the greatest game ever but it is literally the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Mashiro on November 06, 2007, 01:20:25 AM
It's all personal tastes. I found SMW to be a better experience than SMB3. Not to say SM3 is bad but that's how I felt when I played the game.

You can't crucify someone for thinking like that.

Oh and SMW didn't have that annoying ass pipe world . . .
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: UncleBob on November 06, 2007, 01:23:06 AM
Y'all are wrong.

Super Mario All Stars + Super Mario World is the best Mario game.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 06, 2007, 01:55:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
It's all personal tastes. I found SMW to be a better experience than SMB3. Not to say SM3 is bad but that's how I felt when I played the game.

You can't crucify someone for thinking like that.

Oh and SMW didn't have that annoying ass pipe world . . .


Mashiro just gave me a great idea on how to get rid of these SMW preferring people!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 06, 2007, 02:08:19 AM
SMW == SMB3. Both are amazing in their own unique ways.  
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 06, 2007, 02:28:40 AM
But SMB3 has way better unique ways and a lot more of them too.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Ian Sane on November 06, 2007, 04:50:01 AM
I like Super Mario World better.  SMB, SMB3 and SMW are all the same general concept and each game adds more and polishes the concept.  The jump between SMB and SMB3 is obviously much bigger than the jump from SMB3 to SMW but SMW is the most polished.  All three games are absolute must-plays of course and I don't really care if anyone likes SMB3 more than SMW because they're both A+ titles.  Sometimes I get this vibe from the SMB3 boosters that SMW sucks or is a big disappointment.  That's nuts.  We're comparing two of the greatest games ever made.

Super Mario World is so good that I think you really can't go anywhere else with 2D Mario.  It's good that Yoshi's Island and Super Mario 64 were so different because I don't see how they could have taken the formula further as is.  I like New Super Mario Bros but it feels generic which makes it kinda dull.  I think that's because SMW just perfected 2D Mario.  Every videogame series is eventually going to reach a point where it can't be improved on, only changed, and SMW was it.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Kairon on November 06, 2007, 05:17:16 AM
This is so weird because ALL these games rock people! You're splitting...
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 06, 2007, 05:25:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
This is so weird because ALL these games rock people! You're splitting...


It matters and YOU KNOW IT.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Kairon on November 06, 2007, 05:26:58 AM
...hairs.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Stogi on November 06, 2007, 05:53:37 AM
Jak and daxter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMB3 + SMW
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: vudu on November 06, 2007, 06:06:18 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
OH!! I just remembered! I was going to do a "Mario Marathon" before Galaxy came out - playing every single Mario platformer in order on one console. Now with SMB2 JPN and SMB3 released, it will come true! I can blast past the 2D games, but I'll really need to pull up my socks when I get to Mario 64 and Sunshine if I want to finish them all in a week.
The chances of you beating SMB2 JPN in a week are slim-to-none.  I can't get past the third world.  
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 06, 2007, 06:45:52 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
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Originally posted by: IceCold
OH!! I just remembered! I was going to do a "Mario Marathon" before Galaxy came out - playing every single Mario platformer in order on one console. Now with SMB2 JPN and SMB3 released, it will come true! I can blast past the 2D games, but I'll really need to pull up my socks when I get to Mario 64 and Sunshine if I want to finish them all in a week.
The chances of you beating SMB2 JPN in a week are slim-to-none.  I can't get past the third world.  


My friend had never played it before the VC release. Now he can beat it and only die 4 times. Of course, the name The Lost Levels is appropriate, as the game is changed very little from the original, a game which he can beat without dying once.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 06, 2007, 06:58:45 AM
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Originally posted by: KashogiStogi
Jak and daxter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMB3 + SMW


Well I'll go as far as saying that Jak and Daxter is an EXTREMELY underrated platformer and one of my favorite games of all time (Didn't care for the sequels though), it still is no SMB3 or even SMW!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: ShyGuy on November 06, 2007, 07:22:02 AM
Jak and Daxter ranks above Sunshine, but SMB3 and SMW? TWO PLUS TWO DOES NOT EQUAL FIVE
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Stogi on November 06, 2007, 07:40:59 AM
That was sarcarm.......ya I know, I know.....interweb.

Still, I was making fun of how ridiculous this discussion is.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Kairon on November 06, 2007, 07:52:15 AM
I'd call this discussion ridiculous, but if we were talking about console Zelda games then I'd be on this like a grizzly bear on a hiker's pants when there's an apple in the pocket.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Stogi on November 06, 2007, 08:02:28 AM
Sadly....me too.

But damn, like a bear?!
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 06, 2007, 08:48:33 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Jak and Daxter ranks above Sunshine, but SMB3 and SMW? TWO PLUS TWO DOES NOT EQUAL FIVE


Jak and Daxter is a great game don't get me wrong, but better than Sunshine? Hell no.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 06, 2007, 08:58:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Jak and Daxter ranks above Sunshine, but SMB3 and SMW? TWO PLUS TWO DOES NOT EQUAL FIVE


Jak and Daxter is a great game don't get me wrong, but better than Sunshine? Hell no.


Mr. Jack speaks the truth.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: wandering on November 06, 2007, 09:10:48 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
You were born too late, wandering

No, you were born too early!
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: King of Twitch on November 06, 2007, 11:55:09 AM
Yoshi.

End of argument.
Title: RE:November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 06, 2007, 12:32:22 PM
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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
Yoshi.

End of argument.


Hammer Suit

Double end of argument
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 06, 2007, 12:38:56 PM
I admit that while SMB 3 is not my all time favorite Mario game the power ups do rock. Plus it does have some awesome levels.
Title: RE: November Brings More Mario to VC
Post by: Mashiro on November 06, 2007, 01:15:01 PM
Yeah much like was said before . . . it's not like the SMW > SM3 people HATE SM3. They are both A+++ titles. I just prefer SMW.

SM3 does though have great power ups but they are used so sparingly at times that it makes me sad.