Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: willys85 on March 25, 2003, 02:42:05 PM
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: willys85 on March 25, 2003, 02:42:05 PM
Ah miracle happened in the lands of europe, in the UK to be specific, the GameCube (yes, the console with the most lower sales in that country in the last year) oversells the PS2(the #1 console in sales) and of course the Xbox ( The PConsole that weights more than my pc) i don't have very clear what are the numbers of sales i thinnk they are 14.000 in the last week, but i know that the GameCube sales rises a 60% there and the other consoles have a fall of a 10%-15%(GBA, PS2, Xbox) here a the suppously reasons: 1) Metroid Prime 2) the offer of a Gamecube plus a game and a memmory card for 79.98 sterline money(i don't know how to put the icon) 3)It's a GameCube
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: MrShag on March 25, 2003, 02:44:28 PM
The price being the major factor that is...
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Taco on March 25, 2003, 05:56:10 PM
Link??
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 25, 2003, 06:02:12 PM
Godd news to all in the UK then. Hopefully Metroid Prime and Zelda can pull up sales here in Australia too. I long for the day where Gamecube beats PS2 and/or Xbox in something.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Wrx_Boi on March 25, 2003, 06:42:41 PM
heres the link but it doesnt say nething about the amount sold
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: SmellySocks on March 26, 2003, 07:05:21 AM
You can find this news on many many many websites. Not too hard to find.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Ian Sane on March 26, 2003, 08:32:41 AM
According to Computer and Videogames the reason the Gamecube sold so well last week was likely because of stores slashing the price to clear them out. That isn't exactly something to cheer about. Still good Metroid Prime sales is good since Nintendo makes most of their money off of software.
I imagine this won't last long. The stores that slashed prices will likely either keep the prices low and clear out their stock or they'll decide it is profitable and raise the price back up which will kill some of the appeal. Either way the "buzz" will die down. Stores can't sell cheap Cubes forever.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: AERO on March 26, 2003, 11:55:49 AM
Quote and of course the Xbox
Umm, thats a feat for GC in the UK. Not to be taking so lightly. Don't you follow that stuff?
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: ruby_onix on March 26, 2003, 11:59:47 AM
"According to Computer and Videogames the reason the Gamecube sold so well last week was likely because of stores slashing the price to clear them out. That isn't exactly something to cheer about."
It hasn't stopped Microsoft from doing it on a monthly basis.
"I imagine this won't last long. The stores that slashed prices will likely either keep the prices low and clear out their stock or they'll decide it is profitable and raise the price back up which will kill some of the appeal. Either way the "buzz" will die down. Stores can't sell cheap Cubes forever."
Or Nintendo will realize that they need an official European price drop if they want to compete with companies like Microsoft.
The XBox and the GameCube were 480 Euros (£300) and 250 Euros (£155) respectively at the XBox's launch, weeks before the GameCube's launch.
Then, just days before the GameCube launched, Microsoft slashed a massive 180 Euros off the price of the XBox, making it 300 Euros (£199).
Nintendo responded with a 50 Euro GameCube price cut, and launched at 200 Euros (£129). At launch, the GameCube immediately took over the number 2 spot in Europe, and a lot of people were saying Microsoft was going to have a repeat of their Japanese performance in Europe.
Then Microsoft launched their "two free Sega games" thing in Europe. XBox sales picked up. Microsoft started claiming they had retaken the number 2 spot in Europe.
Nintendo started mucking around with the idea of "bundles" to give you a discount on a game if you buy the system, and maybe one free game, while Microsoft added another two games to their free game giveaway.
Before last Christmas the XBox dropped another 50 Euros, to 250 Euros (£159). For some unknown reason, they has a strong Christmas after that. Now Microsoft started claiming that their European lead was so great that, combined with their American lead, it outweighed their Japanese failure.
Then Dixons decided to sell their GameCubes for £100 (150 Euros), since it wasn't moving much at 200 Euros (£129), and said that they'd stop carrying the GameCube if this didn't generate more sales (which it's been doing).
Then Argos decided that they they'd be left out in the cold if they were still hanging on to the MSRP, so they broke it, and decided to go one further and undercut Dixons with an £80 (120 Euro) price.
(By the way, for a frame of reference, a Euro is worth about as much as an American dollar, and last I checked, a GameCube with Metroid Prime was selling for $150 American over here)
IMO, Nintendo of Europe needs to lower the MSRP to get things back under control. If they had followed Dixon's lead and cut the MSRP by 50 Euro, they wouldn't be having to deal with an 80 Euro price cut from Argos.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 26, 2003, 12:58:39 PM
I believe they've started doing the bundles. . . very good deal, it seems, and that may be the reason it's working. Microsoft is taking more pain from all that free crap than Nintendo is with their lower sales (which seems to have changed).
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Mario on March 26, 2003, 05:37:39 PM
Quote Godd news to all in the UK then. Hopefully Metroid Prime and Zelda can pull up sales here in Australia too. I long for the day where Gamecube beats PS2 and/or Xbox in something.
Well the GC has beaten xbox in many things in Australia. Xbox has never had a number one game in the all consoles chart, or a number two for that matter. GC has had 3 number one's, SSBM, Resident Evil and Super Mario Sunshine (for three weeks). The Cube also had a MUCH more successful launch that the xbox, with record pre-orders and 6 games in the top ten. Anyway, good news for Europe, good to see Metroid Prime as the number one game, and Luigis Mansion and Super Mario Sunshine back in the top 40. SMB2 selling stronger than i expected too.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 27, 2003, 01:10:24 AM
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Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Gamebasher on March 27, 2003, 09:04:57 AM
I think it is crucial that Nintendo keep the good deals on GameCube hardware and games rolling, so more people get to experience the Nintendo difference...
Keep it up Nintendo! No need to advertise something to death like empty-barrels-who-always-make-more-noise competitors.
Just get that GameCube out to people through the best offers so people get to PLAY your games and the rest will happen automatically!
Damn right!!!
Gamebasher.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Modulus-X on March 27, 2003, 03:11:57 PM
I can't keep track of all this stuff. If there was a chain that cut the prices of the Cubes in America, I think there would be a pretty big uproar from Nintendo and the competing stores.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: ruby_onix on April 10, 2003, 02:53:10 AM
That's the same price as the GameCube's official one. Which is still the same price that the GameCube launched at.
Like we didn't see this one coming. I guess Microsoft couldn't handle the GameCube sales generated by the unofficial price cuts. Being "#2" means a lot to them.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Fammy2000 on April 10, 2003, 04:18:18 AM
Actually, being #1 is all that matters to Microsoft.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 10, 2003, 05:19:07 AM
LOL This was clearly prompted by the increased Gamecube sales. The MS guy could come up with a reason why the X-box is suddenly reduced in price and cheaper than the PS2!? MS is clearly scared that the increase GC sales were going to be come a trend and not a just a flash in the pan. On a serious note, can you imagine how much MS will be losing on each X-box sold at the lower price.....jeez they most be bleeding billions of dollars between the amount they are eating on each unit and the cost of X-box Live.
Darc Requiem
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Perfect Cell on April 10, 2003, 05:25:07 AM
The reason the sales have improved is the fact that the good games are finally reaching Europe, not the price cuts.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: BadBreathBear on April 10, 2003, 07:01:16 AM
Yeah, but what happens when Perfect Dark comes out?
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: bryanee on April 10, 2003, 09:06:43 AM
pd hasnt even been given a date yet i dont think we will see it until 2004, and this is rare not exactly good with release dates, kameo should of been out by now, afterall they did say spring 2003
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 10, 2003, 11:28:23 AM
Quote Originally posted by: bryanee pd hasnt even been given a date yet i dont think we will see it until 2004, and this is rare not exactly good with release dates, kameo should of been out by now, afterall they did say spring 2003
As I told my friend with an X-box....you aren't getting PD0. Now in 2005 when X-box 2 launches PD0 will be available as a launch title. I know some people may think I'm being funny but I deadly serious. I don't expect PD0 to be ready until late 2004/early 2005 which would cause MS to want it converted into an X-box 2 title. Come to think of it...given how long it took Rare to move SFA from N64 to GC.....it may hit in 2007.
Darc Requiem
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: BadBreathBear on April 10, 2003, 04:46:25 PM
they've been playing videos of kameo at my local eb for the x-box. it doesn't look all that bad. i think we better wait for e3. that's when the big guns come out. more than anything i suspect Microsoft will pump a lot of money into Rare so they get their games done faster. maybe more programmers or maybe more something. i'm not sure.
Title: GameCube oversells PS2 in the UK
Post by: Fammy2000 on April 11, 2003, 04:50:45 AM
Quote more than anything i suspect Microsoft will pump a lot of money into Rare so they get their games done faster. maybe more programmers or maybe more something. i'm not sure.
More programmers doesn't always mean faster development. I'll atest to that. And I'll borrow the "too many chefs have their hand in the kettle" cliche.
Just a random example, if it took 10 programmers a year, it might take 30 programmers half a year. There is a point of diminishing return.
