Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Kasceis on March 24, 2003, 10:55:17 AM
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Kasceis on March 24, 2003, 10:55:17 AM
I only have 2 controllers for my gamecube, one I use all the time, and one for when friends come over. I am buying a new one for Wind Waker though, cause I need more and because I have always bought a new controller for a new Zelda game, always. The controller that I use the most doesn't rumble as much as it use to, I found this out when I was playing SSBM with my cousin. His controller was going crazy when we won matches and mine was barely shaking.
So my question, does the rumble power run out in the controllers?
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: RickPowers on March 24, 2003, 11:12:28 AM
What's more likely is that you have a short in your controller's cord someplace which is causing your Rumble to malfunction. If you wrap the cords around the controller for storage, this is a fairly common occurance.
Personally, I'd suggest getting a Wave Bird, just that's just me.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Kasceis on March 24, 2003, 11:25:44 AM
Thanks for the info Rick, but there is no need for me to get a Wavebird. I have a Futon bed, the one that turns into a couch, so even if the cord was 2 feet long it wouldn't matter, but then again, I wouldn't have to worry about wires shorting out.
I checked the cord and it seems fine, I guess rumble isn't that important really, anyway, I'll have a new controller for WW anyway so its all good.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Gamefreak on March 24, 2003, 11:31:14 AM
Continuing on about controllers... Maybe it's just me or... Do standard GCN controller analog sticks wear out and get loose while Wavebird's don't. My controller that came with my GCN has a loosed left analog. I've used my wavebird like 10x more than the original (smash attacks and all) and it's 100% perfecto... Um?...I thought first party meant first class, not all loose-like...and no I don't screw my controllers up I am a perfectionist and take the utmost care of my video game accessories (seriously, I like line them up all neat and stuff when I'm done playing).
And notice how at walmart and such, the dumb punks screw up the GCN analogs till they are so loose they can't recognize the slightest input, but the xbox controller's analogs are always (semi) fine. Maybe it's just something to do with launch controllers? Are the corded ones fixed now?...
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: kennyb27 on March 24, 2003, 11:49:09 AM
Yeah, Gamefreak, I've noticed that too. I don't know if it was just the controllers at launch, but now that makes sense, because a controller that I bought a couple months before the WaveBird was released has a perfect left analog (except for the bite marks from my stupid dog) while my one that shipped with my GCN is semi-loose. And, my WaveBird is pretty dern close to perfect.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on March 24, 2003, 11:50:02 AM
i don't think that people purposely attack the GCN controllers to wear them down, i just think that the style of analog stick used on the GameCube controller is easier to wear down because of the internal components
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Bloodworth on March 24, 2003, 12:01:44 PM
I've never had problems with analog sticks, but I have had spotty rumble problems. I noticed that my spice controller stopped rumbling properly early on. Upon inspection I saw some scratches on the back side that indicate that at some point, someone dropped it on my hard wood floor. Since it seems to work better when I pound it hard against my hand, I believe that has something to do with it.
Also, the other time I noticed a rumble problem, it seemed to be related to the extension cord I was using. Apparently, after some months, the cord received some minor damage as Rick said. Once I plugged the controller in directly everything worked fine once again.
So as these devices get more sophisticated, it becomes more necessary to take proper care of them. At least the GC's controllers are holding up far better than the N64's did.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Hayato on March 24, 2003, 12:28:16 PM
My MadCatz controller (MadCatz is the only third party I will buy from) I noticed when you leave the analog stick alone it while slowly move to the left... I still haven't taken the time to figure out why though...
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 24, 2003, 12:34:07 PM
On my main controller, the main analog stick is very loose- I haven't had it affect gameplay like some people have, but it does feel kind of weird. I doubt it's fixable, too- I recently took apart my controller to fix it (I spilled some Coke on it, making every button sticky and causing the control stick not to recognize up or down motions) and found the fixture for the stick itself was just loose. I don't think there's any way to tighten it.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: olimar on March 24, 2003, 12:34:36 PM
i've noticed that the anolog sticks and the B buttons wear down on the original batch of controllers like the ones that came with the cube if you got it right when it came out. I have 5 controllers, 4 regular, 1 wavebird, my first two are pretty bad but my other 3 (including the wavebird) are fine and i use them more too.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 24, 2003, 12:43:35 PM
I have 2 controllers, both bought at launch. My main one is my spice orange controller (my indigo one got stepped on and split along one side- still works but is pretty uncomfortable). I've been contemplating buying a new controller, maybe a Wavebird, for a while I really have no use since my spice orange one works great now.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Kasceis on March 24, 2003, 12:57:00 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Any suggestions on what new controller to get? Also, what are the prices of controllers now.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Gharakh on March 24, 2003, 01:16:45 PM
the analog on the black controller i got on cube launch-day is loosening up a little bit but i still play with it most of the time. when it gets much worse i'm gonna do the ol' swap by buying a new controller, then returning it with the old one in the package. i did that before with an indigo controller that the B button was stuck on. why should we spend money for defected controllers, you guys should just do this instead of buying more controllers
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: kennyb27 on March 24, 2003, 01:34:35 PM
Quote Thanks for the info guys. Any suggestions on what new controller to get? Also, what are the prices of controllers now.
The MSRP for a regular controller is $24.95 (US) and for a WaveBird is $34.95. And for what my opinion is worth, go with the Wavebird, it's a great buy and I couldn't be more happy with it.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 24, 2003, 01:42:39 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kasceis Thanks for the info guys. Any suggestions on what new controller to get? Also, what are the prices of controllers now.
... Anything but a Thrustmaster GC 'FireStorm' controller. Yikes, a month after use (And I take care of everything), the C-Stick didn't work, at all, the left analouge stick was crazy, as in, you press left and your on-screen character goes right for a few seconds, before going left.. (It made playing SSB:M a nightmare)
Damn 3rd party rubbish. Also, I have a very odd cosmetic problem with my WaveBird. I've found that the D-Pad is now a healthy shade of grey. It looks terrible. At first I thought it was .. Dirt? But it doesn't come off. Bah.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Kasceis on March 24, 2003, 01:46:14 PM
I just looked at the controllers online and I think I'll be going with the 'ol Spice Controller. Its yellow(I think) or maybe orange-yellowish, anyway, it might go along good with my gold WW disc. Now I just gotta see if I get the extra cash to get it tomarrow along with my new game.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: PIAC on March 24, 2003, 01:57:58 PM
i have a perfect sollution to anyone whos B button has lost its spring, someone told me on the IRC channel to twist the controller and it will fix it, not really beliving the guy i twisted it (grab the handles and twist) and tada!! b button is perfect again, its bizzar yet helpfull
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: ALetterNeverSent on March 24, 2003, 03:16:48 PM
I got my Gamecube at launch and the controller it came with is almost impossible to use. The left analog is so loose that there is barely any room to actually push it in a direction. If there is a way to fix this, I would love to know it. Mine is mostly busted from SSB:M and NCAA Football 2003.
Shane
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 24, 2003, 03:36:35 PM
Quote Originally posted by: PIAC i have a perfect sollution to anyone whos B button has lost its spring, someone told me on the IRC channel to twist the controller and it will fix it, not really beliving the guy i twisted it (grab the handles and twist) and tada!! b button is perfect again, its bizzar yet helpfull
Hmmm, wonder if that'll work for my Master System control pad?
*Twists pad, controller explodes*
Hmmm....
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: aoi tsuki on March 24, 2003, 03:38:34 PM
Kasceis, i understand distance isn't a problem. Using the Wavebird isn't [just] about distance. It's about freedom. You'll use it like any wired controller, at first. Then you'll realize that you can get into any position, and not have a cord draped over you. If you're like me and have all kinds of crap (CDs, cables, papers) on your floor, you'll appreciate just being able to pick the Wavebird up and play, instead of fishing through a sea of stuff.
It's the little things, but for most of us, they really add up.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: kennyb27 on March 24, 2003, 03:58:49 PM
Quote I got my Gamecube at launch and the controller it came with is almost impossible to use. The left analog is so loose that there is barely any room to actually push it in a direction. If there is a way to fix this, I would love to know it. Mine is mostly busted from SSB:M and NCAA Football 2003.
Well, I like to look at this in two ways, if there is a solution, I'll be kinda annoyed, because instead of fixing my 64 controllers I just bought about 7 new ones because this happened with all of them. And in the other way, I'd really love to know a way to fix them in case this epidemic gets any worse on my wonderful GCN controllers.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Bloodworth on March 24, 2003, 10:06:05 PM
One thing I want to ask everyone with control stick problems: Do you put a lot of downward force on the control stick when you use it?
I haven't taken apart a GC controller yet, but I'm pretty sure that the big problems that came from the N64 had to do with people gripping the controller and pushing down on the stick too hard. The N64 controller also got "grindy" due to using a dry lubricant, but I again think that was made worse by people pushing in on the stick so hard that the lubricant got packed into some of the parts (and often came up as "fairy dust"). Taking apart the controller and dumping the lubricant was the only solution I found, but a friend of mine was experimenting with various other types of lubricant. Anyways, from what I can see, the GC control stick is constructed quite differently, but I still think that excessive downward force could be what's damaging the sensitive controls.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Armed on March 25, 2003, 02:53:07 PM
Yes this is happening to me too, when I press down on the analog stick of the controller that I got with my Gamecube it wont work on NFL2k3 when i'm trying to pick plays, but the others it works fine. I don't get why this problem only happens to Nintendo controllers and not on the PS2, i don't know about Xbox since i don't play it because i think it sucks; but anyway it makes you think Nintendo is trying to milk your wallet especially their little memory cards, compared to the PS2 and Xbox anyway (whatever happened to those SD Memory card Panasonic and Nintendo were planning)!!!
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Bloodworth on March 25, 2003, 03:04:51 PM
I don't mean down as in the direction down...I mean down as in squeezing down on the stick.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: kennyb27 on March 25, 2003, 03:13:36 PM
Bloodworth: Hmm, I don't think I put unusual amounts of force on it like that. I mean, my WaveBird is still in excellent condition, so I can't imagine it being like that.
Title: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: David G on March 26, 2003, 03:04:33 AM
Go to Kmart and get yourself a wavebird. I got one for $24 inc. tax. I also got mario party plus a wavebird for 54.
Title: RE: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Raijin Z on March 26, 2004, 03:48:03 PM
Hah, as I type this, I'm fixing the left analog stick on one of my controllers. I just need to find the crazy glue, and I'll be done.
Here's why the sticks get worn out. I'm waiting for my optical mouse to come in the mail, so the ball mouse I used made everything look sloppy.
In figure A, we see the analog stick without the plastic cap on it. Note the stick in the middle. In figure B, a closeup of the stick. Two posts come off of it about a quarter inch down. Those posts go through notches, and when you move the stick, it pulls on these notched parts and blah blah blah. In figure C, you'll note that the post looks chewed up. This is from constantly pushing the post against the notch. It gradually wears away. Near as I can figure, gluing the post into the notch CAREFULLY (if you gle everything together, you just killed the stick mechanism), the stick should respond normally... but super glue doesn't held up to great amounts of stress. Anyway, the controller should work fine after that, and the only problem I forsee is the stick not standing perfectly straight up when at zero position.... but that's not big deal, it won't be severe.
Title: RE:GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Markoso on October 19, 2004, 06:46:09 PM
Hmm, how did that fix for the analog stick go, with the crazy glue and such. I owned 5 N64 controllers (one got stuck down a vent....don't ask), and the one I got at launch, I used vigorously for 3 and a half years, goldeneye, perfect dark, and wow, the abuse it withheld, before I had to call up nintendo, they sent me an analog stick for free that I just stuck in my controller, had a manual and everything. Unfortunately, the GC controllers don't have that luxury, nintendo said some crap about it being more complex and such and such. In any case, report the status of that fixage!.
Title: RE:GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Rancid Planet on October 19, 2004, 08:26:16 PM
You know there are always people who claim that their controllers are as good as they the day they were made. Now I'm not saing that that isn't possible. Some folks just take outstanding care of their stuff. But you never really know just how bad off your current controller is untill you buy a new one and start playing with it.
I say this because I never thought that after only a year or so my GCN controllers would have any noticeable wear to their control sticks. But then I went out and bought a couple new ones and I was AMAZED at just how sensitive and responsive the sticks were. It just goes to show I guess.
Speaking of which, that's been a WHILE ago. Time to buy more GCN controllers!
Title: RE: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: MaleficentOgre on October 20, 2004, 05:47:53 AM
yeah, I can't afford new controllers, so ever since the NES day's I've learned to keep my controllers in tip top shape. My NES controllers are the ones that came with the system and work like a charm. I am however going to buy those wireless nes and snes controllers when I get a chance.
Title: RE: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: Markoso on November 04, 2004, 09:13:32 PM
Hmm, no new word on the crazy glue method? I already bought a 3rd GC controller, but I'd still like to try and repair the second.
Title: RE: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: seen33 on November 05, 2004, 01:57:46 AM
I own 5 1st party corded controlers (2 for me and 3 for my brothers gamecube) and all 5 of them dont rumble or rumble very low . It appears nintendos 1st pary controllers lose thier rumble after as little as 1 month. I never had a problem with ANY analog stick, and some of the controlers are from launch. Disapointed in the loss of rumble, I bought 2 wavebirds since I figured that I dont have rumble anyway. Wavebirds are awsome. The only problem with wavebirds is that there is no rumble but since the official controlers dont really rumble anyway.. then who cares? oh also RF does not go through everything as well. Not only with my wavebirds..but wireless keyboard. It doesent seem to pass through my bed frame which it has to if im sitting far back on my bed. Kinda dumb but at least RF is still better then IR
Personally I would love to see revolution launch with a wireless controller (like wavebird) except with a built in on/off rumble switch. 3rd party xbox wireless controlers have the switch so it IS possible. i would guess it would bring wavebirds 100 hours down to maybe 20 if it was on constant rumble? An even better idea would be to have the new wavebirds with built in lithion ion (sp?) batteries and it comes with a little "base charger" that u just throw it on when your not in use.
Title: RE: GameCube Controller Question
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 05, 2004, 02:01:57 AM
I own 5 1st party controllers. Never had rumble problems. I wore out all the analog sticks thanks to SSBM smash hits.
Title: RE:GameCube Controller Question
Post by: kennyb27 on November 05, 2004, 07:51:23 AM
seen33, I think you may have had some seriously bad luck. I have 4 first party controllers and none have lost their rumble. And since the rumble doesn't run off a battery of any sort, I think it would be hard for the rumble to "run out." Maybe someone here needs to be a little nicer to his controllers. (like not throwing them, maybe)