Post by: Smash_Brother on August 22, 2007, 06:36:25 AM
Enter this address into your browser: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif It's the SSB icon.
Now change the number "01.gif" to 02, 03, etc.
These are the icons of the SSB franchises which are being represented with at least a level. You'll cycle through all of the existing franchises from 1 through 12, but 13 and 14 have no icon (yet), but 15 is the Animal Crossing icon, 17 is also missing, but 18 is the Kid Icarus icon.
Since there's no rhyme or reason to have missing numbers on the list from 1-18, we can safely assume that 13, 14 and 17 all represent franchises which have yet to be revealed but will be at some point in the future, a fact which is corroborated by the Franklin Badge update which placed the Earthbound logo at 07 where there was previously nothing to load.
We don't know if it goes any higher than 18, but we know that these three empty spaces will be filled with something. If two of these will be Ice Climbers and G&W (Dr. Mario was represented by a mushroom logo), then that leaves MGS, but if either ICs or G&W don't return, there will be at least one more franchise on the roster which has yet to be revealed.
I'm personally hoping the numbers will hit at least 25.
Post by: HadesGigas on August 22, 2007, 06:43:38 AM
Also useless note: They've changed the logos a couple times. The Pokeball icon changed from both halves being dark to just one, and the mushroom icon went from being a plain mushroom to the spotted super/1up mushroom.
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 22, 2007, 06:44:33 AM
Interesting...
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 22, 2007, 08:13:36 AM
Advance Wars (Sami)
Pikmin (Olimar)
Balloon Fighter
Punch-Out (Little Mac)
Custom Robo (Ray MK-II)
Drill Dozer (Jill)
Those are the franchises that make the most sense to me to include characters from...Anything else?
Post by: LuigiHann on August 22, 2007, 10:08:02 AM
Post by: Mashiro on August 22, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 22, 2007, 12:46:41 PM
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Originally posted by: LuigiHann
My money's on Balloon Fighter. And by "money" I mean "nothing."
Well he was supposed to be in Melee after-all... =)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 22, 2007, 02:14:56 PM
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My money's on Balloon Fighter. And by "money" I mean "nothing."
Well he was supposed to be in Melee after-all... =)
Where did you find that out? I know that a FE stage as well as Pokemon Ditto were supposed to be in Melee, but I heard nothing about Balloon Fighter.
Maybe the alternate music in the Ice climbers stage was a hint?
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 22, 2007, 02:43:04 PM
But this was over 6 years ago and maybe by now Sakurai has thought of a way to make Ballon Fighter a playable character. But I wouldn't go betting anything yet since he was only considered for Melee, not planned.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 22, 2007, 03:07:30 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 22, 2007, 03:42:25 PM
Balloon Fighter has been used a lot by Nintendo lately. The original game was featured on Animal Crossing, was released on the e-cards thing, as a GBA title and is now available on the Virtual Console. Balloon Fighter was also heavily featured in the Wario ware games, especially Smooth Moves (which featured a pseudo 3D sequel to Balloon Fighter). So once again, it wouldn't surprise me if he was finally featured in SSB.
Post by: HadesGigas on September 13, 2007, 08:44:17 PM
= world_w_14.gif 1 is the Smash Bros icon, 2-12 are all returning franchises, so is 14, 15 and above are new franchises.
Logically that would mean 13 is also a returning franchise. And Game & Watch is the only SSB/SSBM franchise which is yet to have an icon.
You heard it here first, Mr. Game & Watch returns!
*Unless the numbers mean nothing and it is just an extremely unlikely coincidence that all the new franchises and old franchises are not mixed together*
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2007, 08:56:55 PM
Post by: Arbok on September 13, 2007, 09:36:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Well, with Ice Climbers' return it doesn't make all that much sense to bump off another unique character...
Did we really expect the Ice Climbers not to return, though? It's not like that franchise has progressed with new characters, making them outdated within their own franchise, and they were starters in Melee. If there are cuts, the clones seem most likely, followed by anyone who was unlockable.
I'm hoping it's just the clones (sans Ganondorf, of course) that aren't coming back, though.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 20, 2007, 02:27:53 PM
Also, we can scratch Drill Dozer and Punch out as possible franchises since the characters are now assist trophies.
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 20, 2007, 07:53:04 PM
All this game needs is Megaman and the lineup will be perfect for me. The combination of Mario, Sonic and Megaman together in one game would make Brawl the Holy Trinity of Gaming.
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 21, 2007, 06:43:04 AM
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 21, 2007, 08:19:07 PM
Post by: NinjaWang on October 21, 2007, 08:25:07 PM
late....
19 and 13 are missing I believe it stopped before at 20 with sonic...This new stage shattered that theory
Post by: HadesGigas on October 21, 2007, 08:34:35 PM
The 13= G&W and 19 = some other new franchise idea is still accurate.
Post by: NinjaWang on October 21, 2007, 08:39:30 PM
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T# Kolma Says:
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:23 pm
its seems the icon is word 21
meaning the sets are going by
(while keeping in japanese alphabetical order)
Super Smash Bro Debuts
01airant? Smash Brothers (Super Smash Bros.)
02: Donk? Kongu (Donkey Kong)
03: Fokkusu (Star Fox)
04: Hoshi no K?bii/K?bii (Kirby)
05: Kyaputen Farukon (F-Zero)
06: Metoroido (Metroid)
07: Mother (earthbound)
08: Pokemon/Poketto Monsut?
09: Rinku (Zelda)
10: S?p? Mario (Super Mario)
11: Yossh? (Yoshi)
Smash Bro Melee debuts
12:Faia Emuburemu (Fire Emblem)
13:Gemu ando Uotchi (game and watch) (nothing else can fit there)
14:Popo (Aisu Kuraima) (Ice climbers)
Smash Bros Brawl Debuts
15: D?butsu no Mori (Animal Crossing)
16: Made in Wario (Wario Ware, it’s NOT Wario as a whole)
17:Metal Gear (Metal Gear Solid)
18: Parutena no Kagami (Kid Icarus)
19:
20:Sonic
Nintendo Systems
21
i easily added DS cuz i dont think there are any nintendo systems b4 D
unless they put something like BS satelite system for snes(highly doubt)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 22, 2007, 02:13:01 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 22, 2007, 03:16:14 AM
(And I doubt the game was delayed to add characters, not to mention the fact that Sakurai most likely knew about the delay months ago...)
Post by: Ceric on October 22, 2007, 05:34:12 AM
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I find it hard to believe that there will only be one more franchise introduced that has playable characters...So that one is silly, in my opinion... =)
(And I doubt the game was delayed to add characters, not to mention the fact that Sakurai most likely asked for the delay months ago...)
Post by: Pale on October 22, 2007, 05:40:49 AM
I mean, what playable character are we going to get from the DS world?
A stylus?
The pen is mightier than the Mario.
Post by: Arbok on October 22, 2007, 05:55:38 AM
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I'm starting to wonder if these icons even mean playable character...
I've been saying it all along, but I bet it just means if there is a playable character OR stage related to that franchise. This also proves that a Animal Crossing character is hardly a "lock" for Brawl, as some have stated previously.
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 22, 2007, 06:57:23 AM
After Resetti was made an AT, I frankly didn't care after that.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 22, 2007, 07:23:05 AM
So lets put it this way; the AC character is neither a shoe-in nor out of the question. After all, some of us got worried about Sonic and online because Sakurai was extremely quiet about them.
Post by: Arbok on October 22, 2007, 08:14:10 AM
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I think we are jumping into conclusions far too quickly. Yes, the Pictochat stage may be a "for the hell of it" stage and may not be linked to a character, but it doesn't mean that the AC character is still out of the question.
Well neither I or Smash_Brother said that was the case. We simply stated that it was no longer a "lock" for their to be a playable Animal Crossing character in the title, as a few had stated in the past due to the inclusion of the AC icon.
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 22, 2007, 08:30:30 AM
Besides, every AC character has pretty much already been shown off in the background of the stage and I've plenty of reason to believe that disqualifies them as potential combatants.
Post by: Crimm on October 22, 2007, 08:35:33 AM
Post by: Arbok on October 22, 2007, 09:10:12 AM
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...but with the introduction of a DS stage, it shoots down the previous notion that a stage had to be connected with a character, unless of course they reveal a fighting stylus or something of the sort.
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 22, 2007, 09:13:29 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 22, 2007, 11:52:53 AM
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There could still be an AC character, but with the introduction of a DS stage, it shoots down the previous notion that a stage had to be connected with a character, unless of course they reveal a fighting stylus or something of the sort.
Besides, every AC character has pretty much already been shown off in the background of the stage and I've plenty of reason to believe that disqualifies them as potential combatants.
There are multiple human MC's so while any of the animal characters are no longer combatants the humans can still represent the series.
But at this point its hard to tell. Sakurai just has that knack of messing with you. A character might or might not be confirmed but we won't know until he feels like updating us on it, and that might take months.
