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Title: "Is the TV you are watching now a wide screen TV?"
Post by: dubnobasswithmyheadman on August 19, 2007, 03:55:51 PM
Does anybody else think the recent poll result on Everybody Votes channel is interesting?

48.8 percent voted "Yes", 51.2 percent voted "No, it's different".

Since "wide screen" is basically synonymous with "HDTV", it seems that Nintendo vastly underestimated the adoption of HD...

Also, is this an example of Nintendo using Everybody Votes channel for market research?
Title: RE: "Is the TV you are watching now a wide screen TV?"
Post by: Mashiro on August 19, 2007, 04:04:44 PM
I hear the next poll is going to be "who has the longest user name on the internet".

=D
Title: RE: "Is the TV you are watching now a wide screen TV?"
Post by: dubnobasswithmyheadman on August 19, 2007, 04:08:19 PM
And reported you have been. If I see anymore of this garbage from you, I don't think I need to tell you what's going to happen.


- The Management
Title: RE: "Is the TV you are watching now a wide screen TV?"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2007, 04:43:30 PM
Not for long.  Reported.
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Post by: ShyGuy on August 19, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
Pro666 is a narc killjoy.

Just to turn this into a poll, I have a Widescreen hooked up to my Wii,
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Post by: Crimm on August 19, 2007, 05:44:42 PM
I disagree.  There is a non-responder bias inherent in all Internet polls.
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Post by: Kairon on August 19, 2007, 05:48:24 PM
Not to mention... the country with the highest number of widescreen penetration is the UK, where it's possible to buy SD widescreen TVs. (or so I hear)

The US is waaaaaaaaay down at the bottom with less widescreen penetration. And there's even more people without widescreens who aren't tech-progressive enought to hook their Wiis to the internet.
Title: RE: "Is the TV you are watching now a wide screen TV?"
Post by: dubnobasswithmyheadman on August 19, 2007, 05:53:43 PM
Good points, but the response for "yes" still seems higher than I thought. Too bad we can't see the raw number of responses.
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Post by: Kairon on August 19, 2007, 05:54:58 PM
Yeah, it was much higher than I thought. Sounds like Nintendo should start giving a little more 16:9 support!
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2007, 05:59:24 PM
This is how I get down. 32" for TV, movies, gaming and computing


I actually plan on buy ing a 20+" specifically for the computer pretty soon though.
I have a 19" monitor but that thing takes up way too much space.
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Post by: that Baby guy on August 19, 2007, 06:00:28 PM
The resolution...is...wrong!  Oh noes!
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2007, 06:19:02 PM
I just hooked it(the omputer) up today, its still stretched out a little
Been installing all kinds of stuff all day so I haven't really played with the resolution.
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Post by: Ghisy on August 19, 2007, 09:10:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Not to mention... the country with the highest number of widescreen penetration is the UK, where it's possible to buy SD widescreen TVs. (or so I hear)

SD widescreen TVs have been around for a long time. I'm confused by your comment or was it a joke?
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Post by: Terranigma Freak on August 20, 2007, 03:07:40 AM
I'm still using my 3 inch black and white TV to play games and watch TV.  
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Post by: Strell on August 20, 2007, 03:51:13 AM
The next question needs to be "Have you already filled up all 100 friend codes in your Address Book?" with the answers "Yes, need more room!" and "No, I'm fine."

Because I NEEDS MORE ROOM.  
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Post by: darknight06 on August 20, 2007, 04:17:03 AM
I haven't come anywhere close to 100 friends on mine.   However I do have a 19 in. LCD progressive scan TV.
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Post by: Ian Sane on August 20, 2007, 05:09:10 AM
I'm sure Nintendo's decision regarding HD support will be dependent on how popular it is in Japan.  NCL doesn't think of the world outside of Japan and will make blanket decisions for all regions based entirely on their homeland.

Plus the poll is biased as it relies on people who can actually get a wireless router working with their Wii.  Those people are likely not non-gamers and are more tech-savy and thus more interested in widescreen TVs.  The "the black bars cut off the top and bottom" people aren't online with their Wii.
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 20, 2007, 05:36:17 AM
My family has a widescreen TV that does 100Hz but not even 480p.
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Post by: Kairon on August 20, 2007, 06:42:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Ghisy
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Not to mention... the country with the highest number of widescreen penetration is the UK, where it's possible to buy SD widescreen TVs. (or so I hear)

SD widescreen TVs have been around for a long time. I'm confused by your comment or was it a joke?


I never knew. Forgive me.
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Post by: that Baby guy on August 20, 2007, 07:01:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I'm sure Nintendo's decision regarding HD support will be dependent on how popular it is in Japan.  NCL doesn't think of the world outside of Japan and will make blanket decisions for all regions based entirely on their homeland.

Plus the poll is biased as it relies on people who can actually get a wireless router working with their Wii.  Those people are likely not non-gamers and are more tech-savy and thus more interested in widescreen TVs.  The "the black bars cut off the top and bottom" people aren't online with their Wii.


Most people that can't work that kind of stuff get their kids to do it for them.  Most younger people can figure it out well enough, or get more tech-savvy friends to help them out.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on August 20, 2007, 08:30:51 AM
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Originally posted by: dubnobasswithmyheadman
Since "wide screen" is basically synonymous with "HDTV", it seems that Nintendo vastly underestimated the adoption of HD...


It isn't, though. An HDTV is a TV which can run in 1080p resolution with a specialized tuner built in.

Widescreen TVs were being sold for years before HDTV came out.
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Post by: The Omen on August 20, 2007, 09:23:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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Originally posted by: dubnobasswithmyheadman
Since "wide screen" is basically synonymous with "HDTV", it seems that Nintendo vastly underestimated the adoption of HD...


It isn't, though. An HDTV is a TV which can run in 1080p resolution with a specialized tuner built in.

Widescreen TVs were being sold for years before HDTV came out.


But in the U.S., 99.9% of widescreen tvs sold in the last 5 years are HD.  It could be those people have SD widescreens from 2000.  But it's more than likely the UK SD thing making the poll meaningless.

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Post by: vudu on August 20, 2007, 09:55:36 AM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
But it's more than likely the UK SD thing making the poll meaningless.
Or you could just go into the poll details and see where each individual country falls.
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Post by: that Baby guy on August 20, 2007, 10:08:03 AM
This is easy:  because multiple Miis can vote, the users with Widescreen TVs have a larger Mii/Wii ratio.  My roommate voted on my TV, a widescreen, and so did I.  This is the first poll I can think of where all Miis on a Wii would cast the same vote, and I think that had a strong effect on the outcome.
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Post by: Terranigma Freak on August 20, 2007, 10:11:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I'm sure Nintendo's decision regarding HD support will be dependent on how popular it is in Japan.  NCL doesn't think of the world outside of Japan and will make blanket decisions for all regions based entirely on their homeland.


Actually, according to another forum, Japan was the first to adapt to this HD stuff long before the rest of the world. They're actually ahead of us in HD adaption rate.

I honestly don't know if it's true, but even if it is, it's sure as hell not hurting the Wii in anyway.
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Post by: Ghisy on August 20, 2007, 10:17:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I never knew. Forgive me.

No worries.
I do own an SD widescreen tv in the living room but I play on a 15" LCD in my bedroom (lack of space *sigh*).
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Post by: vudu on August 20, 2007, 10:21:45 AM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
This is easy:  because multiple Miis can vote, the users with Widescreen TVs have a larger Mii/Wii ratio.  My roommate voted on my TV, a widescreen, and so did I.  This is the first poll I can think of where all Miis on a Wii would cast the same vote, and I think that had a strong effect on the outcome.
You're right that chances are all Miis on a system would likely vote the same way.  But why would widescreen television users have more Miis than those using a standard television?
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Post by: that Baby guy on August 20, 2007, 10:27:06 AM
Yeah, widescreen TVs are generally more expensive and likely to be used for households and families.  More users would be likely to vote on a shared system, because it can be a group activity.

Just about everywhere I've seen widescreens in a home is in a shared area, while personal screens are typically 4:3, so it makes sense for that to happen.  IE, I have a widescreen downstairs, but I personally have two 4:3 screens in my possession, while my roommate has a single 4:3.  However, the Wii is connected to the widescreen, and both of us voted for widescreen.  So that's three 4:3 screens for one widescreen, yet two widescreen votes.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
Widescreen TVs have appeared in fictional Japanese households in anime TV shows since the mid-90s (see: Tenchi-Muyo!).
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Post by: anubis6789 on August 20, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
The "the black bars cut off the top and bottom" people aren't online with their Wii.


Those "the black bars cut off the top and bottom" people are the reason for laws in the U.S. that forbid letterboxing on broadcast  TV (a lot of the time including cable and satellite) and thus made severe overscan a problem. The reason behind the laws where that since people had paid for every inch of their screen, every inch of the screen has to be used by broadcast signals. I am not kidding. I think that they might also have been the reason for there being very few pre-HD Widescreen TVs available in the U.S..
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Post by: mantidor on August 20, 2007, 11:08:07 AM
question: has Nintendo ever shown one of their games in an SD TV? at all?

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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2007, 11:12:57 AM
Mario 64?
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 20, 2007, 11:15:50 AM
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Originally posted by: dubnobasswithmyheadman
And reported you have been. If I see anymore of this garbage from you, I don't think I need to tell you what's going to happen.


- The Management


Aww man...The good stuff is always erased after I find out about it.

What did he say that got him reported?
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Post by: mantidor on August 20, 2007, 11:31:40 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Mario 64?


you win for now...

Since I will soon give up and expend the absurd ammount of almost $500 to get this damn thing because I'm a sad fanboy, I'm actually interested in how the console will look on my TV, isn't there any videos of it anywhere? I've tried to find them but apparently they don't exist.
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Post by: dubnobasswithmyheadman on August 20, 2007, 12:38:58 PM
I made a joking comment about liking to break HTML tables. Seriously, I did not know that was gonna happen when I registered this name. I might just have to create a new user to avoid this kind of backlash.  
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2007, 01:10:04 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Mario 64?


you win for now...

Since I will soon give up and expend the absurd ammount of almost $500 to get this damn thing because I'm a sad fanboy, I'm actually interested in how the console will look on my TV, isn't there any videos of it anywhere? I've tried to find them but apparently they don't exist.


Plz describe what you're trying to determine.  RE4:Wii still looks pretty DAMN nice on my 10-year old 27" Sony on S-Video.  So did Toilet Princess and Super Papel Mario.
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Post by: ShyGuy on August 20, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
Pro, an Audio/Videophile of your stature deserves a better television.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
I'll put a donation button in my sig.
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Post by: mantidor on August 20, 2007, 03:39:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
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Originally posted by: mantidor
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Mario 64?


you win for now...

Since I will soon give up and expend the absurd ammount of almost $500 to get this damn thing because I'm a sad fanboy, I'm actually interested in how the console will look on my TV, isn't there any videos of it anywhere? I've tried to find them but apparently they don't exist.


Plz describe what you're trying to determine.  RE4:Wii still looks pretty DAMN nice on my 10-year old 27" Sony on S-Video.  So did Toilet Princess and Super Papel Mario.


Developer's priority. are the GUIs and the design in general more suited to wide-screen or normal screen? how about the position of enemies? range of weapons? that kind of stuff, specially for shooters like Metroid. it might seem really trivial, but I pay almost $100 per game, I have all the right to be as nitpicky as I want. I assume everything is done with old screens in mind and widescreen only used to show nice panoramic views, but you never know.



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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2007, 03:47:17 PM
I'd expect the fullscreen HUD to take up the same amount of space seen in the previous Prime games.  The widescreen perspective appears (from the previews) to provide the same viewing distance, with the addition of extra viewing space on the sides.
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Post by: 31 Flavas on August 20, 2007, 04:47:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane

Plus the poll is biased as it relies on people who can actually get a wireless router working with their Wii.  Those people are likely not non-gamers and are more tech-savy and thus more interested in widescreen TVs.  The "the black bars cut off the top and bottom" people aren't online with their Wii.
The poll is also biased because 1 person can vote 6 times. Just register 6 Mii's in the channel. So don't think Nintendo is doing any polling or marketing research with these polls. There just fun questions to ask, nothing more.