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Title: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: WindyMan on August 17, 2007, 07:28:45 AM
Nous apporterons une contribution et écrirons une partie de cet article dans la langue française!
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=14243

 Quebec is the part of Canada where French is the dominant and preferred language, despite the fact that the country is officially bilingual in French and English.  However, reports state  that only 40% of top games released in Quebec are available in the more romantic language.    


That's going to change, though.  The Quebec government has announced that it has struck a deal with the game industry to ensure that all games entering the eastern province will have a French translation included.  According to The Canadian Press, game publishers will be covering any extra costs this would entail.    


A government spokesperson said that the details of the agreement will be publicized soon.  We'll let our French-Canadian friends know if there are any further details in this agreement at that time.

Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: WindyMan on August 17, 2007, 07:34:06 AM
If you're wondering what the abstract translates to:

"We will make a contribution and write a portion of this article in the French language!"

You see, we care about you too, Quebec.
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: zxkork on August 17, 2007, 08:47:19 AM
Does that mean games in Quebec will be released later then their "untranslated" counterparts? If so, screw that deal, I'd tather get the game in english on time rather then in both languages 2 months later =/
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Kairon on August 17, 2007, 08:51:07 AM
Quebec, welcome to Europe?
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 17, 2007, 09:17:05 AM
It's not an agreement, it's the idiotic Quebec goverment who passed a law stating that if the game is released in French anywhere in the world, it has to be in French in Quebec too. So basically any game released in Europe will have to be translated into French if it is released in Quebec too.

Since this will require extra time and money, expect games from small/budget publishers (like Majesco, Atlus, Nippon Ichi, Xseed) to either not be released in Quebec or released much later (since it might not be worth the cost just to release it in just one province). Gamers in Quebec better get ready to have to order certain games like RPGs from an online site like Amazon Canada since I know there will be publishers who would rather not release the game in Quebec rather than waste time and resources like this. Pity that gamers will have to suffer because of their provincial government.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Ian Sane on August 17, 2007, 09:23:48 AM
"Does that mean games in Quebec will be released later then their 'untranslated' counterparts? If so, screw that deal, I'd tather get the game in english on time rather then in both languages 2 months later"

I'm more concerned about this affecting the entire country.  Will a bilingual version be the ONLY version released in Canada?  Will Canada as a whole have to wait for translations?  Considering that the Quebec government is who is making the deal I'd assume no for now but Quebec has a lot of clout with the federal government.  Quebec may whine about waiting longer and using "Canadian government logic" the solution will be to have the rest of the country suffer too.

Methinks areas in Ontario, New Brunswick and Newfoundland near the provincial border are going to get a rise in game sales with Quebec residents popping by for games on time.

Probably no one who actually plays games is requesting this.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Kairon on August 17, 2007, 09:23:56 AM
That sucks. How can Quebec choose to be so... stand-offish?
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 17, 2007, 09:25:32 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
That sucks. How can Quebec choose to be so... stand-offish?


Because they see games like Alien Syndrome here and want nothing to do with it!
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: matt oz on August 17, 2007, 09:26:33 AM
Is Québec still trying to become independent?  I haven't heard anything about that in a while.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Ian Sane on August 17, 2007, 09:26:46 AM
"Pity that gamers will have to suffer because of their provincial government."

Doesn't everyone suffer because of the Quebec provincial government?  I wouldn't be surprised if somehow people in Argentina are affected somehow by those guys.

I should become an Candian English videogame bootlegger.  My hatred of the Toronto Maple Leafs should allow me to slip into Montreal undetected.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Ian Sane on August 17, 2007, 09:31:08 AM
"Is Québec still trying to become independent?"

Only when they want something from the federal government.  I've suggested that BC and Alberta should try the same tactic.
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 17, 2007, 09:33:18 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Is Québec still trying to become independent?"

Only when they want something from the federal government.  I've suggested that BC and Alberta should try the same tactic.


One Canada is enough for me!  
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Kairon on August 17, 2007, 09:45:17 AM
::blanches::

Oh Canada...
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: zxkork on August 17, 2007, 10:23:30 AM
Le Parti Québécois is still trying to achieve independancy, but the timing is just not right, that's why they aren't pushing it right now. That law is really retarded, I mean, it's nice for kids who generally only speaks french, but that's about it. I'm also afraid the extra development costs generated by the translation of the software will be handed down to the consumer. This is annoying considering that games are already more expensive in Canada then they are in the US, wich is a nonsense considering how the US and Canadian dollar are currently on par with one another.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: KDR_11k on August 17, 2007, 10:36:50 AM
Funny wannabe frenchies.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 17, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
Does this mean making french games for Quebec isn't worth it?  So companies will just forego the French North American version completely and fly around Quebec as some kind of center of non-entertainment.

Ian's scheme may work afterall.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Kairon on August 17, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
edit: whoops
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Guitar Smasher on August 17, 2007, 12:44:22 PM
Maybe when I'm over in Quebec getting my beer for cheaper, I'll bring over a few games to bootleg.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: WindyMan on August 17, 2007, 12:56:38 PM
Don't look too hard into this one, guys.  Most "top games" are already translated into French for the French market.  It's just convenient for publishers to release one version of a game across the United States and Canada.  All that will likely happen is that Quebec will get their French/English version at the same time the game is released in France.  Not that big of a deal for publishers.

Besides, it's not like Quebecers can't just drive over to Ontario and get the game at the same time as everyone else.  Yeesh.
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Ian Sane on August 17, 2007, 01:00:05 PM
"Besides, it's not like Quebecers can't just drive over to Ontario and get the game at the same time as everyone else. Yeesh. "

You do know Quebec is like the size of Texas, right?  It's not like some rinky-dinky province that takes an hour to drive across.  If you lived in the center of Quebec what the hell are you going to do?
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 17, 2007, 01:01:40 PM
Give up gaming.
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on August 17, 2007, 01:12:19 PM
Order from another province?
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Elfslayer on August 17, 2007, 01:41:10 PM
I'm concerned about the quality of these translations. I wonder if we'll get France french version or an actual Québec localization? I stopped going to the movies in french because the France dubbing we had in some of the major movies was awful.
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 17, 2007, 01:53:34 PM
WindyMan, that would basically mean Quebec would have to wait longer to get games than the rest of Canada. Canada almost always gets games the same day as the United States, while Europe (which includes France) usually get games several months later. At the very least, this would cause RPGs and other text/voice heavy games to be released later in Quebec (and maybe Canada in general if a company doesn't want to make two different versions for Canada).

The best solution for consumers is to just order the games online, or move out of Quebec.

This was just posted on NeoGAF by a poster named "Meta Knight":

Quote

just heard an interesting info from someone working at Beenox (owned by Activision):

The deal (it's not a law, it's a deal) was made between the Quebec government and the Entertainment Software Association of Canada. The following companies are part of ESA Canada: Activision Incorporated, Buena Vista Games, Electronic Arts, Microsoft Canada, Nintendo of Canada Ltd., Sony Computer Entertainment, Take-Two Interactive, THQ, Ubisoft Entertainment, Inc. et Vivendi Games, Inc.

Details will be revealed mid-september.
 
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Magus19 on August 17, 2007, 05:12:52 PM
It takes 5 hours to go to ottawa from quebec city. I will now do my buisness at amazon.ca
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on August 17, 2007, 07:37:23 PM
Soooo, how does this affect games with different publishers in North America and Europe? Will this affect the publishing "border lines" for a contract?
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 18, 2007, 08:02:18 AM
I don't think that has any effect at all. Whoever is publishing a game in North America will be responsible (i.e. Majesco would have to translate the Cooking Mama games, wheras the games European publisher 505 Games would have nothing to do with it).
Title: RE:Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: JonLeung on August 19, 2007, 04:03:41 AM
I could be wrong, but Quebec looks larger than Texas to me.  At least in comparison to the rest of Canada compared to how Texas is to the rest of the States.  And I'm sure Canada has more landmass than the States.  Of course, I could be wrong, whatever.

I remember the Quebecois making a big deal about this back when Pokémon started.  They wanted French names for them or the games would be banned or something.  I guess the accent aigu on the e (é) wasn't enough to fool them.  You don't see us complaining that "Pikachu" and "Pachirisu" and "Togepi" are still in Japanese...but I can still understand, for the names that are portmanteaus (I like that word).

Just stick Es on things and reverse the order of some words.  I'm fairly confident that "Pokémon: Diamond Version" is "Pokémon: Versione Diamonde".  :P  
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: Ian Sane on August 20, 2007, 05:02:09 AM
"Just stick Es on things and reverse the order of some words. I'm fairly confident that "Pokémon: Diamond Version" is "Pokémon: Versione Diamonde". :P"

Don't forget to put "Le" in front of everything like in Pepé Le Pew cartoons.

"I wonder if we'll get France french version or an actual Québec localization?"

I'd imagine France French will be cheaper since they already have to do that for France which is a bigger market.

European forumers do UK or Australian games have a different English translation or do they appear to be in American English?

Now no one put the idea in the Canadian government's head that we need Canadian English translations.  I don't want anything delayed just so that "honor" is spelled "honour".
Title: RE: Quebec Getting More Games in French
Post by: KDR_11k on August 20, 2007, 06:19:19 AM
I think most games come to the UK in US English if such a version already exists. If the game comes straight to Europe from Japan (or is made in Europe) or has a different publisher it might get a different translation.