Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 14, 2007, 10:32:01 AM
So with this let's speculate which third party characters could appear in the game and if they are worthy of representation.
Here are the third party companies that have supported Nintendo before along with the characters that could be featured in Brawl, the first being the most likely. The list also features possible third party characters that could be assist trophies.
Let's start with...
Sega
Sonic the Hedgehog: As I already mentioned in the other character thread the minute Solid Snake appeared on the first E3 trailer the first name that was spoken afterwards was Sonic. It would the fanboys' ultimate dream come true and a big event to hype. Even if the reps have come out and said that they have no plans on including Sonic in the game its more than likely that they ARE working on it as we speak as this would be one big marketing push towards Nintendo and Sega, perhaps even more than Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. It would be extremely idiotic of them to dismiss the potential and breaking the hearts of MANY fans.
Other characters:
Nights (Nights Journey of Dreams)
Ai Ai (Super Monkey Ball)
Assist trophy characters:
Tails
Knuckles
Square-Enix
Moogle: Even if the Chocobos have been around longer than the Moogles they have just as much personality, if not more, than the Chocobos.
Other characters:
Chocobo
Black Mage
White Mage
Red Mage
Slime (Dragon Quest)
Main hero (Dragon Quest)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Assist trophy characters:
Cactuar
Shiva
Ifrit
Carbunkle
Bahamut
Slime (Dragon Quest)
Hudson Soft
Bomberman: Considering that the SSB series has always been a mascot fighter its more than likely that third parties will submit their well known mascots and Bomberman just happens to be their main man!
Other characters:
Master Higgins (Adventure Island)
Bonk
Assist trophy characters:
...Any enemy from Bomberman?? (Help me out here!)
Capcom
Megaman: Capcom's Megaman is perhaps the most overqualified character in the list. 7 of his classic games are on the Nintendo platforms. His spin off games were first featured on the Nintendo consoles. Hell, in a recent poll asking which console should Megaman appear in the Wii won by a landslide! So if there's one character in Capcom's class that deserves a spot Megaman is it!
Other characters:
Leon (Resident Evil 4)
Jill Valentine (Resident Evil)
Viewtiful Joe
Ryu (Street Fighter)
Sir Arthur (Ghost and Ghouls/Ghoblins)
Assist trophies:
Roll (Megaman)
Zero (Megaman)
Zombie (Resident Evil)
Tron Bonne (Megaman)
Rush (Megaman)
Namco/Bandai (Banco)
Pac-Man: Once again, mascot rule applies here. Pac-Man is Namco's official mascot and if they were to choose Pac-Man would be it. Not to mention he has already crossed paths with Nintendo's Mario (Charles Martinet was the announcer for Pac-Man versus and Pac-Man was a selectable character in the Mario Kart arcade game).
Other characters:
The guy from Disaster (this is based on the fact that Nintendo now owns Monolith Soft, but I may be wrong)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
Taki (Soul Calibur)
Assist Trophy characters:
Ghosts (Pac-Man)
Ms. Pac-Man
Ubisoft
Before I continue with the characters I want to tell you a little backstory. Last year a rumor surfaced saying that Ubisoft had submitted 4 characters to appear in Brawl. While the rumor was never confirmed or denied the possibility was likely. Ubisoft was the first third party to support Nintendo and the Wii since day one and that has paid off in the biggest way possible. Not to mention that the Rabbids are a big phenomenon right now.
This is still a rumor that is likely BS, but with SSB you never know what to expect.
Now onto the characters!
Rayman: You know the drill. Ubi's main man, even though lately he has taken a backseat to the Rabbids he was the first character to be submitted for approval. It could happen since all of his games have appeared on the Nintendo consoles and one of them is a massive Nintendo exclusive hit (Raving Rabbids).
Other characters:
Jade (Beyond Good and Evil)
The Prince (Prince of Persia)
Sam Fisher (Splinter Cell)
Rabbid (Raving Rabbids)
Assist trophy characters:
Globox (Rayman)
Rabbid (Raving Rabbids)
So let's sum this up. The most likely candidates to represent third parties in Brawl are:
Sonic
Moogle
Pac-Man
Rayman
Bomberman
Megaman
If its true that Nintendo is considering 2 or 3 more characters that means some of these will not make it, so the top 3 would be...
Sonic
Moogle
Megaman
And there you have it! Since I am very absent minded I may have forgotten other characters and companies. Feel free to add in anyone I may have missed. Remember that this is all speculation so I may be wrong.
Enjoy!
Post by: Arbok on August 14, 2007, 10:39:21 AM
In terms of speculation, I agree that Sonic and a Moogle seem the most likely from those two companies, and I feel they are probably the most likely to show up overall.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2007, 11:07:25 AM
Sonic (Sega)
Chocobo (Squenix) (Or possibly Chrono, wouldn't that be something?)
Mega Man (Capcom)
Post by: UERD on August 14, 2007, 11:10:49 AM
On a tangential note, do you think that SSBB might be used as a launching pad for a new game? I know that Nintendo probably didn't have a master plan to bring Fire Emblem to North America, but the popularity of those characters in SSBM certainly helped convince Nintendo to do it. Do you think something like that, maybe a collaboration between Nintendo and a friendly third party, might happen?
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2007, 11:28:24 AM
Post by: nickmitch on August 14, 2007, 01:13:56 PM
As for Squenix putting in a generic character, what's more generic than Pokemon Trainer? Besides, it'd be better promotion for them to include a DQ character.
I'd love it if VJ was in it. That'd be great. But hasn't Capcom put that franchise on hold for a while?
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 14, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
I expect the next one to be a Square-Enix character, which one I'm not sure. I think the most likely would be one of the generic Final Fantasy character that appeared in Mario Hoops for the DS. They're well known by gamers and since they've already been in a Mario game that does increase the chance of one of them being in Smash Bros.
Of course I wouldn't count Sora out yet though since Chain of Memories sold quite well on the GBA and the Kingdom Hearts series is very popular. If it's not someone related to Final Fantasy in Brawl then my money on Sora being the Square-Enix character instead.
Post by: mantidor on August 14, 2007, 02:06:12 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 14, 2007, 02:17:44 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
Why would Pac-Man make a good character? I just don't see it happening, nor would I want it to. But, if it did, I'd get over it.
Go back to the first post and read what I said regarding mascot characters. If third parties are only allowed to have ONE character to represent the entire company then its more than likely they will choose their mascot, and Namco's mascot happens to be Pac-Man. So if Nintendo invites Namco to Brawl then they will go with Pac-Man.
That's how logic works.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 14, 2007, 03:39:04 PM
Snake= 100%
Sonic= 90%
Mega Man= 75%
Bomber Man= 50%
Simon Belmont= 30%
Square Final Fantasy character (Mage most likely)= 25%
Rabbid= 10%
Pac-Man =5%
I dunno about any others...those are just ones I want to see.
Post by: Dasmos on August 14, 2007, 04:05:35 PM
QuoteYou mean your most likely candidates. I don't even know what a moogle is.
Originally posted by: pap64
So let's sum this up. The most likely candidates to represent third parties in Brawl are:
Sonic
Moogle
Pac-Man
Rayman
Bomberman
Megaman
I also don't know why Zero is on your assist trophies list he's (IMO) much more suited for Smash Brothers.
Post by: Arbok on August 14, 2007, 04:25:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Dasmos
I also don't know why Zero is on your assist trophies list he's (IMO) much more suited for Smash Brothers.
I would agree... but I would say it's pretty unlikely that he would be playable. First off, I just couldn't see him being picked over Megaman, and I also doubt there will be two characters from the same third party franchise in the game either. Those two elements combined make it hard for me to see Zero making the "cut".
As for Pac-Man, he does represent Namco more than other characters... but I just find him so boring and unappealing. I do feel he has a good chance of showing up, but would really rather the slot went to someone more interesting.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 14, 2007, 04:38:47 PM
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Originally posted by: DasmosQuoteYou mean your most likely candidates. I don't even know what a moogle is.
Originally posted by: pap64
So let's sum this up. The most likely candidates to represent third parties in Brawl are:
Sonic
Moogle
Pac-Man
Rayman
Bomberman
Megaman
I also don't know why Zero is on your assist trophies list he's (IMO) much more suited for Smash Brothers.
*Shakes head
This is a Moogle, one of Square's many mascots.
I mentioned those characters because, like I said, they are the companies' mascots. If they can submit only ONE character to represent the whole company you can bet ANYTHING that they will go with their mascots.
Of course, I may be mistaken and the companies may think differently, but if you have a character that represents everything good about your product why not use him or her as much as possible?
Hell, if Nintendo was asked to contribute a character to a third party mascot fighter they would go with either Link or Mario (technically, that already happened with Soul Calibur 2).
And Arbok, I agree that Pac-Man is a bland character, but considering he already has cross over history with Mario and he is Namco's main mascot he has a higher chance of appearing in the game than any of the other Namco characters.
Post by: JonLeung on August 14, 2007, 05:09:01 PM
I remember Hideo Kojima's statement about Metal Gear never being on a Nintendo platform *coughMetalGear/Snake'sRevenge/GhostBabel/TwinSnakescough* which was only a few years ago yet before Twin Snakes, of course, but if it's true that he begged for Snake to be in SSB:M, well, I still think it's weird. Had he not asked, I would've thought someone more classic Konami and Nintendoish would be someone like Simon Belmont, what with his NES/Game Boy/Super NES adventures and Captain N appearance (even if that was DiC, really). :P I guess Snake is more commonly popular these days, which would boost sales better than if they were going for the Castlevania fan, however, since the MGS games are coming to the PSP and PS3, it doesn't feel like a good fit.
I guess it's too late for that, though.
I think since Konami is in, then Capcom (with Mega Man) should be in. Those two were the first two third parties I recognized in the NES days that are still around and have lengthy series.
Keep your Solid Snake, stick in Sonic, Pac-Man, Mega Man, and maybe if Square-Enix ought to be there, then a moogle (or (a) Mog, whatever) and call it quits.
Post by: nickmitch on August 14, 2007, 05:38:15 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
Why would Pac-Man make a good character? I just don't see it happening, nor would I want it to. But, if it did, I'd get over it.
Go back to the first post and read what I said regarding mascot characters. If third parties are only allowed to have ONE character to represent the entire company then its more than likely they will choose their mascot, and Namco's mascot happens to be Pac-Man. So if Nintendo invites Namco to Brawl then they will go with Pac-Man.
That's how logic works.
I still say that Pac-Man looks too silly for Brawl.
Post by: UERD on August 14, 2007, 05:54:47 PM
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If third parties are only allowed to have ONE character to represent the entire company then its more than likely they will choose their mascot
Is this even how it actually works, Nintendo asking a 3rd-party to choose a character to represent their company? Snake's inclusion didn't have anything to do with that sort of scenario.
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I still say that Pac-Man looks too silly for Brawl.
Yeah, there's a point at which the line has to be drawn. What attacks are you going to give him? How the heck are you going to fit him into the story mode? How is he not going to distract from everything else? etc. I don't care what the general opinion is, but Nintendo should not be cramming new characters into the game unless there the character can be differentiated from a gameplay perspective, and unless it can be done without ruining the general atmosphere of the game.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 14, 2007, 06:03:20 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: DasmosQuoteYou mean your most likely candidates. I don't even know what a moogle is.
Originally posted by: pap64
So let's sum this up. The most likely candidates to represent third parties in Brawl are:
Sonic
Moogle
Pac-Man
Rayman
Bomberman
Megaman
I also don't know why Zero is on your assist trophies list he's (IMO) much more suited for Smash Brothers.
*Shakes head
This is a Moogle, one of Square's many mascots.
I mentioned those characters because, like I said, they are the companies' mascots. If they can submit only ONE character to represent the whole company you can bet ANYTHING that they will go with their mascots.
Of course, I may be mistaken and the companies may think differently, but if you have a character that represents everything good about your product why not use him or her as much as possible?
Hell, if Nintendo was asked to contribute a character to a third party mascot fighter they would go with either Link or Mario (technically, that already happened with Soul Calibur 2).
And Arbok, I agree that Pac-Man is a bland character, but considering he already has cross over history with Mario and he is Namco's main mascot he has a higher chance of appearing in the game than any of the other Namco characters.
Eh, I only learned what a moogle was a few years ago when Square made Mario Basketball and was talking about the moogle mail or something for Final Fantasy III DS. However, you mentioned another character I think would be more interesting. Slime form Dragon Quest. That's a character I've known about and recognized for years even though I've never even played Dragon Quest before. That's iconic.
Not to mention Dragon Quest is bigger than Final Fantasy in Japan and Nintendo has been recieving more love with Dragon Quest than Final Fantasy. Putting in a Dragon Quest character may even help the series grow more in North America since I don't think it does as well here. Plus, Rocket Slime had his own DS game awhile ago, so you think they'd be able to come up with some moves for such a character.
Post by: Arbok on August 14, 2007, 06:07:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Khushrenada
Eh, I only learned what a moogle was a few years ago when Square made Mario Basketball and was talking about the moogle mail or something for Final Fantasy III DS. However, you mentioned another character I think would be more interesting. Slime form Dragon Quest. That's a character I've known about and recognized for years even though I've never even played Dragon Quest before. That's iconic.
I'm just the opposite. I didn't know what a Slime was until the DS game came out, while I have been very familiar with Moogles ever since Final Fantasy 6.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 14, 2007, 06:12:45 PM
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Originally posted by: UERDQuote
If third parties are only allowed to have ONE character to represent the entire company then its more than likely they will choose their mascot
Is this even how it actually works, Nintendo asking a 3rd-party to choose a character to represent their company? Snake's inclusion didn't have anything to do with that sort of scenario.Quote
I still say that Pac-Man looks too silly for Brawl.
Yeah, there's a point at which the line has to be drawn. What attacks are you going to give him? How the heck are you going to fit him into the story mode? How is he not going to distract from everything else? etc. I don't care what the general opinion is, but Nintendo should not be cramming new characters into the game unless there the character can be differentiated from a gameplay perspective, and unless it can be done without ruining the general atmosphere of the game.
I don't know how Nintendo is working the third party aspect of Brawl. I'm guessing its a mix of Nintendo asking them and the third parties or developers asking Nintendo (which is what happened with Snake). Whatever they do A LOT of talks and meetings are likely to happen before they make a decision.
As for Pac-Man, dude, this is Smash Bros. we are talking about. First of all, they have given new and original move sets to characters who you don't even control directly (like Fox and Captain Falcon) so I'm sure they can come up with a move or two for Pac. Just look at the recently unveiled Pokemon Trainer character. Second, we are talking about a game who has fantasy characters and realistic characters against cartoony characters and even "WTF" characters. So why are you WORRIED that Pac-Man is going to CLASH in a SSB game?
In short I don't understand your point. This is SSB we are talking about, a game that's all about different characters that clash against each other so I don't know how Pac-Man would ruin that. We already have a living, breathing, morphing pink marshmallow in Kirby so why not a giant, yellow ball?
Seriously, too silly? We are talking about a game whose fans want TINGLE to be a playable character...
Oh and Khush, Final Fantasy VI and VII are the most famous and popular FF games in the US and both heavily feature moogles. I'm sure at least half the gaming population know and recognize the moogles.
However, Square is an unique case. They have way too many mascot characters to choose from, counting the Enix side of thing. Both sides of the company also have a great relationship with Nintendo, so its going to be hard which side gets represented in Brawl.
Post by: nickmitch on August 14, 2007, 06:33:32 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 14, 2007, 06:41:03 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
People only want Tingle in the game so they can hurt him. Now, some characters in Smash can look realistic, and some can look cute. But, Pac-Man is silly. He's just silly. He's a sphere with arms and legs coming out of it. He's just a silly looking character. Captain Falcon was at least buff. It doesn't look weird to see him fighting. The pokemon are made for fighting, so it's natural for them. Then, there's Pac-Man. Kirby is cute. Hell, he's adorable, one of the most cuddly things I've ever seen. But, he doesn't look silly.
Again, you are talking about a game who started out as a silly parody of fighting games. In fact, a more understandable worry is that Pac-Man is not unique enough to be featured in Brawl.
The SSB series has been built on the silly and weird, sometimes even surreal. No matter how epic and "serious" they are trying to be in the end the whole thing is just a weird concept. Had we been talking about another game then I would understand the concern, but this is SSB, a game that doesn't take itself seriously even when it does.
Post by: nickmitch on August 14, 2007, 06:48:53 PM
Post by: Adrock on August 14, 2007, 09:47:11 PM
If a Square-Enix character makes it, I'd be very, VERY surprised if it wasn't Cloud. If Nintendo wants to further expand the audience of this game, they'll include characters that are instantly recognizable to most gamers.
In no particular order, my list of hopefuls (not counting Sonic because he'll probably be on the cover):
1. Belmont - I'd like to see different Belmonts as costumes
2. Nights (even though it can fly and I don't know how that'd work)
3. Cloud
4. Mega Man
5. Ryu (Street Fighter)
6. Nightmare (Soulcalibur)
Post by: UERD on August 15, 2007, 01:04:51 AM
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If a Square-Enix character makes it, I'd be very, VERY surprised if it wasn't Cloud. If Nintendo wants to further expand the audience of this game, they'll include characters that are instantly recognizable to most gamers.
The only way I could see Cloud making it in is if S-E is planning on making a FF7-related property for a Nintendo console (FF7 remake on the DS, anyone? :P). The guy already said that only characters who have appeared on Nintendo consoles would be eligible, although admittedly nothing they've said has really been final or definitive so far (are we getting online play, or not?). Although, to be honest, I would really like to see Link beating up on Cloud beating up on Sonic. Wouldn't that be surreal.
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but this is SSB, a game that doesn't take itself seriously even when it does.
Yeah, Kirby was silly, but it was funny silly because they were all Nintendo characters, and it was like some huge inside joke. Pac-Man is only peripherally related to Nintendo- he's probably been a character on more non-Nintendo consoles and machines. (As I state above,) I only expect them to put in characters that are intimately related to Nintendo IPs, unless there is a really compelling reason. (And for Snake, having his creator beg for his character to be included twice is pretty compelling.)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 15, 2007, 02:24:48 AM
I would have speculated on:
Hudson Soft
Capcom
Sega
As the big definite three. Then in no particular order I would have then guessed:
Square-Enix
Konami
Then the no chances would have been like:
EA
Ubisoft
ect
But Konami is the only 100% and Sega is probably up there. I do believe we are talking iconic characters or mascots only. To Konami Snake is their modern icon character, even though he isn't really a mascot. For Hudson and Capcom their mascots and iconic characters are still Mega Man and Bomber Man, and isn't Mega Man celebrating a big anniversary this year? If so I could see Nintendo going to them and offering Mega Man in Brawl as an "anniversary gift."
Post by: KDR_11k on August 15, 2007, 04:55:14 AM
Post by: vudu on August 15, 2007, 05:19:47 AM
Post by: UERD on August 15, 2007, 05:23:09 AM
Post by: 18 Days on August 15, 2007, 06:09:21 AM
Dare I even suggest that Lara Croft should be in it? She's way cooler than Snake.
Post by: nickmitch on August 15, 2007, 07:46:24 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Since no one else is going to agree with TVman, I'll back him up. Pac-Man in Brawl would be retarded. He was retarded in the Mario Kart Arcade game, and he'd be retarded in Brawl.
Thank you.
Kirby may be a cute little creampuff, but he doesn't look ridiculous. Pac-Man was already an established character before he got thrown in to 3-D and given arms, legs and a personality. Youcan't change the fact that he's just to silly looking for Brawl.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 15, 2007, 08:47:20 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Since no one else is going to agree with TVman, I'll back him up. Pac-Man in Brawl would be retarded. He was retarded in the Mario Kart Arcade game, and he'd be retarded in Brawl.
Agreed...Namco can stay out of Brawl unless they somehow bring in Klonoa (which is highly unlikely)...
Post by: Adrock on August 15, 2007, 09:10:26 AM
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The only way I could see Cloud making it in is if S-E is planning on making a FF7-related property for a Nintendo console (FF7 remake on the DS, anyone? :P). The guy already said that only characters who have appeared on Nintendo consoles would be eligible, although admittedly nothing they've said has really been final or definitive so far
Cloud was in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories on GBA. Yeah, it's a stretch, but, really, so is Snake. On Nintendo hardware, he's been in two remakes (original MG and Twin Snakes), an unofficial retconned sequel (Snake's Revenge), a non-canon side-story (Ghost Babel) and that DreamMix fighting game (which was also on PS2). And on top of that, they even use his MGS2 design, which was released on PS2 and Xbox and NOT Gamecube.
Based on Snake's inclusion, that "must have been on a Nintendo platform" rules doesn't seem too strict. Snake should have been one of those characters who was on the fence, but his presence in Brawl kind of makes it fair game for any popular character.
Brawl never needed to have 3rd party characters. It would've sold well on its own. I'm convinced that the only reason Nintendo OK'd it was to make more money by widening the audience to fans on those 3rd party characters. The popularity of a certain 3rd party character is most likely the determining factor. Sure, Kojima asked/begged to have Snake in the game, but Snake is also a very popular and recognizable character.
And yeah, I think there will be a FFVII related property on Wii, probably a remake. Square-Enix likes making money and they'll get the greater returns on Wii. It's easier and cheaper to develop for with the largest install base in Japan and soon everywhere else in the world.
Post by: UERD on August 15, 2007, 09:50:26 AM
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Cloud was in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories on GBA.
Oh, wow. I did not know that. In that case, then...I think for a fighting game S-E (or any other company, really) would want to select a character mascot. A racing or sports game is one thing, but for a fighting game you have to have a robust moveset- for example, Link's moves include items and weapons that he uses in his games. So here's to hoping...
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And yeah, I think there will be a FFVII related property on Wii, probably a remake. Square-Enix likes making money and they'll get the greater returns on Wii. It's easier and cheaper to develop for with the largest install base in Japan and soon everywhere else in the world.
It makes so much sense, they probably won't do it ;P. I mean, the super-FFX photorealistic style just doesn't work as well with the PS1-era FF games. They could do stylized remakes faithful to the original and release them for Wii, benefiting from both a large potential userbase and a lot of people who might never have played the original for PS1.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 15, 2007, 10:32:00 AM
And really, I am still surprised that people believe that he is too weird and silly to be in SSB. Yeah he is a weird character in terms of design and even background history but why would that matter in a game like SSB?
I've always believed that the point of SSB is that all of our favorite game characters from all sorts of developers, companies, backgrounds and gameplay got together in one game and had fun battling it out. Hell, the "story" in the first SSB game was that the characters were these figures brought to life by the imagination of a kid and that can be limitless.
Once again, I am shocked that the main reason as to why Pac-Man shouldn't be in Brawl is because he is too weird and silly. Its one thing that you are not fond of the character, but people we are talking about a game that gave us Mr. Game and watch as a playable character!
As for Cloud, I could see them including him and as much as I don't like the character (used to, but then I got annoyed of his emo antics) it would be a fine addition but again I see them using one of their mascots.
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 15, 2007, 10:45:41 AM
He was in Mario Kart Arcade, yeah, but as far as Namco icons go, I'd pick an RPG based character would be better and more representative of Namco.
Then again, Namco hasn't done much for the Nintendo lately so I doubt we'll see a Namco character anyway.
Post by: Louieturkey on August 15, 2007, 01:19:20 PM
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Pac-Man has kinda been relegated to the status of Namco's "b*tch" mascot. He's not in many new games and doesn't have nearly the presence that he once did.
Except he's in EVERY game in the Namco Museum REmix. In fact, they have "enhanced" every game in the collection to include him, including Galaga of all games. So they are trying to push him hard. I could see Namco requesting Pac-man in Brawl. I just wouldn't want it & wouldn't touch him unless I had to in order to unlock some other characters.
Post by: Adrock on August 15, 2007, 01:49:41 PM
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As for Cloud, I could see them including him and as much as I don't like the character (used to, but then I got annoyed of his emo antics) it would be a fine addition but again I see them using one of their mascots.
Cloud is one of their mascots and the company's most recognizable character. I think he's more likely than a nameless moogle, white mage or chocobo.
