Glad this garbage is coming out on a 360 so the Wii isn't the reason for the series changing to crap.
Title: RE:Guilty Gear Series officially killed off (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 12, 2007, 09:54:12 PM
Nobody said anything about ending the fite game franchise. Don't post misleading thread titles.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Mashiro on August 12, 2007, 09:59:24 PM
ok sorry, there better?
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 13, 2007, 01:23:12 AM
Super still holds onto a futile hope, eh?
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 13, 2007, 01:30:41 AM
Perhaps this means that the 360 and PS3 will be getting crappy 3D spinoffs in the future while the Wii will get the real games?
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on August 13, 2007, 04:01:44 AM
Why do game companies think they need to totally change a game's systems to move it forward?
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: capamerica on August 13, 2007, 04:41:44 AM
First Soul Calibur Legends now this... WTF is going on with fighters?
Man it seems like all the fighting franchises decided to become 3D adventure brawl games ever since TeamNinja announced Dead or Alive Code: Cronus.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 13, 2007, 06:09:34 AM
You have a strange frame of reference.
SC:Legends, MK:Shaolin Monks, Tekken:Whatever (I'm not sure about the standalones but I know Tekken 5 comes with a 3d brawler) and that DOAC:C (never heard about it) thing are all spinoffs. GG2 seems to be the main entry.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Ghisy on August 13, 2007, 08:58:24 AM
One word: ewwww.
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 13, 2007, 09:25:34 AM
DEATH BY DEGREES LOL
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Ian Sane on August 13, 2007, 10:15:46 AM
I'm more outraged by the switch to 3D. Has any 2D fighter ever successfully been translated to 3D?
A reinvention of a series is usually accepted if it turns out good. It's just that fighting game spinoffs have NEVER been good.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2007, 10:28:24 AM
Its funny, by title, this one isn't a spin-off, and all the other ones are...
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 13, 2007, 10:33:12 AM
I don't see what is so bad. Then again I have never played a GG game.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: ShyGuy on August 13, 2007, 11:00:46 AM
Not even Cell shaded?
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Mashiro on August 13, 2007, 12:33:01 PM
Quote Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix I don't see what is so bad. Then again I have never played a GG game.
Well Guilty Gear is a really amazing 2D fighting game which if you haven't played and like fighting games I suggest you do.
And well since this 3D guilty gear is now the official "Second" game in the series it has turned into a 3D piece of crap non fighting game which is just plain silly.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: capamerica on August 13, 2007, 01:40:20 PM
There is no reason why Guilty Gear 2 had to be a 2D fighter, or a fighter at all. The Guilty Gear X series will probily continue the 2D fighting series. Guilty Gear 2 can be what ever Arc System Works wants it to be. Bitching that Guilty Gear is not following what it should be is like bitching about a game going from 2D to 3D. Come on people, you don't even know how its going to be. For all you know this could be the right step in the right direction.
Dead Or Alive: Code Chronos was announced back in 2002 for the Xbox and later moved to the Xbox360, It's going to be an Action RPG prequel to the Dead or Alive series and will focus around Ayane and Kasumi before the first game.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Mashiro on August 13, 2007, 02:02:42 PM
Yeah remember when they tried to add an adventure mode in Isuka? yeah that worked out AWESOME.
::rolls eyes::
I don't trust them (Arc System Works) to do a good job with this I just don't.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 13, 2007, 02:13:28 PM
"It's going to be an Action RPG prequel to the Dead or Alive series and will focus around Ayane and Kasumi before the first game."
Oh come ON! An Action/RPG game with Ayane? I DON'T WANT TO BUY IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT WILL SUCK, BUT...AUGH! ;_;
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Adrock on August 13, 2007, 09:20:43 PM
Quote capamerica wrote: First Soul Calibur Legends now this... WTF is going on with fighters?
At least SC4 is coming. We can rest easy knowing that Legends is a spin-off instead of a sequel.
Anyway, what the f*ck happened to Guilty Gear? What's next, first person Smash Bros.?
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 13, 2007, 09:23:05 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Adrock
Quote capamerica wrote: First Soul Calibur Legends now this... WTF is going on with fighters?
At least SC4 is coming. We can rest easy knowing that Legends is a spin-off instead of a sequel.
Anyway, what the f*ck happened to Guilty Gear? What's next, first person Smash Bros.?
That would be pretty cool actually to have a FPS Smash Brothers!
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 13, 2007, 10:24:30 PM
Quote Originally posted by: capamerica There is no reason why Guilty Gear 2 had to be a 2D fighter, or a fighter at all. The Guilty Gear X series will probily continue the 2D fighting series. Guilty Gear 2 can be what ever Arc System Works wants it to be. Bitching that Guilty Gear is not following what it should be is like bitching about a game going from 2D to 3D. Come on people, you don't even know how its going to be. For all you know this could be the right step in the right direction.
The issue is that calling it GG2 raises certain expectations, namely that it's a new game based upon the original with big improvements, not a completely different gameplay style (Zelda 2 might have been received better had it been a new franchise). The bitching comes partially from the fact that turning a 2d fighter franchise into a 3d brawler hasn't worked out in the past and probably won't in the future. It also forgets that the fanbase is guaranteed to like fighters but not necessarily brawlers.
Giving it a main series number indicates that GG3,4,5, etc will be sequels to it instead of a game like GGXX. If GG3,4,5,... are similar departures from their predecessors that doesn't mean much other than that the devs better be versed in a LOT of gameplay styles but if they're like other sequels that may mean we won't see a GG fighter again.
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 13, 2007, 10:25:31 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Adrock
Quote capamerica wrote: First Soul Calibur Legends now this... WTF is going on with fighters?
At least SC4 is coming.
They are ballooning all of the female characters for absolutely no reason, and the team seriously seems more interested in how the characters' clothes move on their bodies than the actual, you know, gameplay...Interest is declining... =|
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 13, 2007, 10:43:36 PM
Next thing you know they'll stuff some water melons into Bridget's costume.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: capamerica on August 14, 2007, 05:06:40 AM
Fake boobs work for Eddie Izzard =P
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: capamerica on August 14, 2007, 05:16:08 AM
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11kGiving it a main series number indicates that GG3,4,5, etc will be sequels to it instead of a game like GGXX. If GG3,4,5,... are similar departures from their predecessors that doesn't mean much other than that the devs better be versed in a LOT of gameplay styles but if they're like other sequels that may mean we won't see a GG fighter again.
I really don't think we have anything to worry about, I think its highly likely that the GG 2D fighting series will continue on, They will most likely just use the GGX/GGXX brand that they have created. Actually from what I've read the true GG2 was GGX and GGXX was considered the 3rd installment so in reality GG2 is in fact GG4.
Anyway I bet the 2D fighter of GG will continue on as the GGX series, I have a feeling well see Guilty Gear XXX be released within the next couple years.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Ian Sane on August 14, 2007, 06:42:02 AM
I agree with KDR about calling the game Guilty Gear 2. Fans react more harshly to major changes to the "main line" of a series. If Dr. Mario was called Super Mario Bros 3 people would probably sh!t on that, too.
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Mashiro on August 14, 2007, 08:01:50 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane I agree with KDR about calling the game Guilty Gear 2. Fans react more harshly to major changes to the "main line" of a series. If Dr. Mario was called Super Mario Bros 3 people would probably sh!t on that, too.
/perfect
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Adrock on August 14, 2007, 08:39:56 AM
Quote Bill Aurion wrote: They are ballooning all of the female characters for absolutely no reason, and the team seriously seems more interested in how the characters' clothes move on their bodies than the actual, you know, gameplay...Interest is declining... =|
The female characters have always had large chests and the reason that they have large chests is because the game will attract more attention from virgins and thus sell more. I thought that was quite clear.
Besides, the point is that capamerica brought up the state of fighting games by mentioning Soulcalibur Legends, but a fourth installment of Soulcalibur is indeed coming, making what is happening to Guilty Gear (in which the future of the 2D fighting series is unknown) quite different than what is happening to Soulcalibur.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Mashiro on August 14, 2007, 08:50:20 AM
Quote The female characters have always had large chests and the reason that they have large chests is because the game will attract more attention from horny gamers and thus sell more. I thought that was quite clear.
Fixed.
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: 18 Days on August 14, 2007, 07:56:18 PM
That's actually a good fix. Pretty sure 10 year old girls arn't falling overthemsleves to buy TOmb Raider.
Title: RE:Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: Galford on August 15, 2007, 06:20:35 PM
From looking at the screen shots via the link they seem to be focusing on Ky and Sol Bad Guy. I wonder who the main enemy will be, the Order, Justice?
Title: RE: Guilty Gear series turns to crap (aka: Guilty Gear 2)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 16, 2007, 02:18:42 AM
These shots are of an incomplete game, it's possible that Sol and Ky are the only characters in a presentable state and that at least some others will be added later.
