Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2007, 02:51:58 AM
Officially Announced, or Spotted Characters
Mushroom Kingdom Characters
Mario
Luigi
Princess Peach
Bowser
Wario
Yoshi
Pokemon
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Jigglypuff
Lucario
Kong Kountry
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Hyrulian Combatants
Link
Princess Zelda/Shiek
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Dream Land Vacations
Kirby
MetaKnight
King Dedede
Nintendo RPG Paradise (AKA Earthbound/Mother and Fire Emblem)
Ike
Marth
Lucas
Ness
Shooters and Space Adventures (AKA Star Fox and Metroid)
Fox McCloud
Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Falco
Wolf
Misc. Marvels
Pit
Ice Climbers
Olimar/Pikmin
Captain Falcon
ROB
Mr. Game & Watch
Third Party Crashers
Solid Snake
Sonic the Hedgehog
Confirmed Character Count: 35
As it stands now, we have 35 characters revealed...and it looks like that will be the final Roster....or did I miss somebody.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2007, 02:53:59 AM
Petey
Captain Falcon
Mewtwo
Luigi
Ness
Sonic
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 10, 2007, 03:05:12 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2007, 03:13:10 AM
Put him in the High Speculated...since no real announcement has been made with him.
Post by: WindyMan on August 10, 2007, 05:33:37 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 10, 2007, 05:41:28 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2007, 06:03:44 AM
Shiek has always been Zelda in disguise.
Post by: Louieturkey on August 10, 2007, 06:37:31 AM
Post by: Pale on August 10, 2007, 06:39:16 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 10, 2007, 07:23:21 AM
Shiek has always been Zelda in disguise."
There's no evidence yet of this being the case this time around, so I'll run with my possibilities (not saying Sheik WILL be an AT, saying it's POSSIBLE) and you run with yours...
Sheik could also potentially be a completely separate character...The fact of the matter is, we just don't know yet...
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2007, 07:28:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"Shiek is apart of the design of the Princess Zelda in Brawl...even if the updated design is from Twilight Princess.
Shiek has always been Zelda in disguise."
There's no evidence yet of this being the case this time around, so I'll run with my possibilities (not saying Sheik WILL be an AT, saying it's POSSIBLE) and you run with yours...
Sheik could also potentially be a completely separate character...The fact of the matter is, we just don't know yet...
True...which is why I am running a disclaimer that we don't know about Shiek yet on the top post.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 13, 2007, 01:28:46 AM
Post by: Tanookisuit on August 15, 2007, 03:18:44 AM
Also, Spak- when was Ganondorf spotted? (aside from cloud conjectures)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 15, 2007, 08:50:51 AM
Luigi, I guess I just forgot to throw him in there...but we know he will be playable.
By the way...Tanooki Suit should really be Tanuki Suit, they changed the spelling so "stupid" Americans can pronounce it easier.
Post by: Adrock on August 15, 2007, 09:22:13 AM
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Ganondorf was mentioned by the director of Twilight Princess to be in the game...it isn't 100% confirmation, but is about 80%.
Aonuma also mentioned Sheik being redesigned by Twilight Princess' artists.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 15, 2007, 10:07:01 AM
But it's one of those classic spellings now! =D
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 15, 2007, 02:29:54 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 15, 2007, 07:37:26 PM
Post by: Arbok on August 15, 2007, 07:43:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
You should also add "Animal Crossing Character" to the Highly Speculated Characters list since the stage and item have an Animal Crossing icon which pretty much means there's a 100% chance an Animal Crossing character is in the game. Only things related to playable characters have had series icons next to them while the rest have the Smash Bros logo.
Only things related to playable character or stages have series icons next to them... until there is a stage from another game featured without its own logo I wouldn't say this is a "100%" confirmation of a Animal Crossing character being playable.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 22, 2007, 01:35:23 AM
I am kinda sad nobody thought of Diddy Kong before in our rumored section, I guess we always just think Rare when we think of Donkey Kong Country and figure it is impossible.
Post by: Tanookisuit on August 22, 2007, 05:51:29 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
By the way...Tanooki Suit should really be Tanuki Suit, they changed the spelling so "stupid" Americans can pronounce it easier.
Fully aware.
Post by: Artisto16 on August 22, 2007, 07:39:53 AM
I just find it funny how they showed off the opening scene, THEN all after the fact, confirmed Peach as a playable character.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 22, 2007, 08:08:35 AM
He's always been in my potential character list, but I didn't talk about him because he's not one I am personally interested in (along with Balloon Fighter and Little Mac)...As for the Rare tie, Krystal has a huge chance of being in...
Post by: ThePerm on August 23, 2007, 09:10:23 AM
also..lets hope for a WindWaker high seas level with Tetra in the backround.
Post by: Arbok on August 23, 2007, 09:14:49 AM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
Young Link will be Cell Shaded! Mark My words!
My bet is: there is only one playable, normal, Link in the game. I don't expect to see a playable Young Link back, even if he takes on the cel-shaded look.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 23, 2007, 12:26:44 PM
So you want Wolf Link/Midna too, right?
Post by: Arbok on August 23, 2007, 01:08:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"My bet is: there is only one playable, normal, Link in the game."
So you want Wolf Link/Midna too, right?
Yep, why I added in the word "normal" just before hitting submit.
Although personally I would rather see Midna be a standalone character.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 23, 2007, 01:15:54 PM
Post by: Tanookisuit on August 27, 2007, 02:27:14 AM
Little Mac is a must. He makes too much sense to not include.
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 27, 2007, 07:04:30 AM
And why the idea of NO cell shaded characters period. That is silly, because Cell Shading is just a technique to use, and if it makes the characters look great then use it.
Post by: Nick DiMola on August 27, 2007, 07:14:12 AM
Also I feel like Miis could show up, seems like a logical move.
Post by: Caterkiller on August 27, 2007, 01:43:26 PM
And it has been officialy stated that some of the previous characters wouldn't return right?
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 28, 2007, 05:04:34 AM
Which is why they are not included in the official count, but I do not see them being taken out of the game as there is no reason to take any characters out except for the clones.
This is one reason I do not see them removing Ice Climbers or Mr. Game and Watch, because both characters are quite unique and truly add to the game.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 28, 2007, 05:07:24 AM
Post by: Zipolo on August 28, 2007, 06:50:30 AM
In Nintendo Power they've been showcasing various people who're working on SSBB, and they have a little showcase of games each person has been a part of. A last month the guy had worked on Devil World and Devil showed up as an assist trophy soon after. This month's guy had Megaman as one of his featured games, so here's hoping.
Post by: NeoThunder on August 28, 2007, 03:28:43 PM
So I think this is confirmed that it will have at least 50 players to choose from.......crazy
Post by: nickmitch on August 29, 2007, 02:28:42 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 29, 2007, 06:37:33 AM
Post by: Caterkiller on September 01, 2007, 04:48:44 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 01, 2007, 04:51:10 AM
And no, Spak, it was from a Japanese interview long before the Dojo came into existence, so I can't find it...
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 01, 2007, 08:55:07 AM
All Sakurai said about characters is that not all of the characters from Melee will be returning and that's it. Now it's a safe bet so assume all of the original will be returning and I fully expect them all to return as well, but Sakurai has never confirmed it so until he shows them all, there's no 100% guarantee.
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 14, 2007, 02:05:22 AM
Post by: SkiDragon on September 14, 2007, 08:31:08 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on September 14, 2007, 09:13:07 PM
It might actually be more interesting if he could summon a carrier-bot thing to drop in a weapon type with down-B, and all specials would be based on that particular weapon. Remind me, there were four types in Gunstar Heroes, right? Tracking, Rapid, Heavy, and Laser, or at least something like that?
Post by: SkiDragon on September 14, 2007, 09:47:00 PM
Post by: LuigiHann on September 18, 2007, 06:02:57 AM
That's the icon selection screen... not much to speculate about, but...
-Nothing is blurred, so any "secrets" would either be above or below the visible icons
-They've scrolled down just a bit to hide at least the first row of icons (Mushroom, DK, and Triforce emblems are hidden, and there's no sign of the Animal Crossing, Mother, or Smash Bros emblems... those six would fill the first row...)
-The playable characters are all in a row, of which we can see both the beginning and the end.
-Both Samus and Zero Suit Samus have separate icons, as do all 3 of PT's Pokemon, but there's still no sign of Sheik.
-Judging by the position of the scroll bar, there may be several rows of icons below what we can see (although those could easily be all Miis).
Any thoughts? Not much to go on, but my interpretation is: all of the starter characters have been announced. Anyone not in that screenshot will be unlockable, or not in the game at all.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 18, 2007, 06:07:05 AM
(They obviously just cut out everything we haven't seen...)
Post by: LuigiHann on September 18, 2007, 06:11:26 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Yeah, uh, why would they show or blur out anything not revealed yet?
(They obviously just cut out everything we haven't seen...)
They've blurred stuff out before. It's certainly possible that they'd cut out icons, but there's nothing to suggest that they've done so.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 18, 2007, 06:12:47 AM
It's a bit different when blurring out character icons, particularly if they decide to put a Sheik icon next to Zelda...
(Plus, you think they are done revealing starter characters? I sincerely doubt it...)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 18, 2007, 06:24:43 AM
Post by: Caterkiller on September 18, 2007, 09:00:05 AM
As far as I can remember, none of the veterans shown so far were secret characters at all in either of the past 2 games. And everyone else besides Shiek was, and with that all but one newcomer seem to be revealed. If only judging by that one little space left open for the characters, if that means anything at all.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 01, 2007, 07:12:56 AM
I have updated the page again. And if you had not noticed I italiced any highly likely characters that have not been revealed, to give us an idea of how many should be announced now, as well as keeping a count of only the announced characters.
The list is pretty strong, but obviously we have some game franchises still left out.
Custom Robo,
Pikmin,
Chibi-Robot,
Mega Man
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2007, 08:27:11 AM
Right now we have 20 characters (I'm not counting ZSS as a separate character, as she won't have her own select icon), so I'll say we bump that down to a maximum of 8 to make a nice even number...Of those, the vets I'm sure will return are
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Mr Game & Watch
I'm still holding out for Marth, Ness, and Luigi to be unlockables, and I'm going to assume that clones are gone, and that Mewtwo is gone (again, there's no evidence that he is, I just think that Lucario could replace him as the powerful Pokemon...)
This leaves a maximum of 4 possible newcomers...(I'm actually quite confident that we'll get 3 more before the game is released) Of those, I'll say we get these:
Animal Crossing MC
Olimar
The last guy could be anyone, but I do feel as if the AC MC and Olimar will be present from the beginning to represent their franchises...
(Edit: Ah crap, I forgot that Snake is going to be an unlockable, so that could make for 5 vets and then the 3 newcomers...Augh, this speculation is so useless...)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 08:33:32 AM
Post by: Arbok on October 01, 2007, 10:04:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
...and that Mewtwo is gone (again, there's no evidence that he is, I just think that Lucario could replace him as the powerful Pokemon...)
Why Mewtwo, and why with Lucario? Mewtwo is the most popular legendary in the series. Leaf Green and Fire Red being released recently makes him still very relevant to the franchise, and while Lucario had a movie recently... Mewtwo also had the first film in the series and an OVA all about him.
I'm still not clear why people assume that previously playable characters (unless they were a clone) will likely get replaced by newer ones in the franchise too... I mean, we known Shiek is back and the Pokémon Trainer is circa Red/Blue/Green instead of one of the newer titles. There is a huge difference between updating the visage of a character (ala Fox) to represent the recent games, compared to removing them altogether and just replacing them with someone more current from the franchise.
Post by: Mashiro on October 01, 2007, 12:33:59 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2007, 12:42:29 PM
(My Lucario took on Palkia while it was still 10 levels below it and was able to get him down to a single pixel of red in just 2 hits...
)
Post by: Mashiro on October 01, 2007, 01:01:08 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 01, 2007, 01:16:36 PM
We have to remember that for Melee they created a new engine for the game and so had to make all the old characters brand new which took more time. With Brawl on the other hand their using Melee's engine and so the older characters just have to be upgraded which saves the team time to focus more on creating new characters.
And with Brawl having a much longer development time then Melee was allowed, I'd imagine they'll easily be able to keep all the unique characters from Melee as well as create plenty of new ones for Brawl.
Post by: Mashiro on October 01, 2007, 02:06:36 PM
lawl
I'd take sandshrew as a playable over lucario any day of the week . . . so I could do my imitation of the sandshrew trainer from the first season of pkmn!
Post by: Arbok on October 01, 2007, 02:18:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
Well the game can easily have BOTH Mewtwo and Lucario.
Sounds good to me.
Post by: ThePerm on October 02, 2007, 09:04:17 AM
Post by: HadesGigas on October 02, 2007, 02:17:06 PM
Lucario is an example of everything wrong with the newer Pokemon.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2007, 02:22:51 PM
Diamond/Pearl's Pokemon set is the best since the originals...
Post by: Mashiro on October 02, 2007, 02:23:58 PM
Here's why. (love the trainers voice)
(and here is why in Japanese! zomg!)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 10, 2007, 01:45:11 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 22, 2007, 08:49:15 AM
Right now we have a list of 21 confirmed, and 26 likely characters. I am beginning to believe the number of characters will be 30 to potentially 40 characters. It just really depends on if there are secret characters, and if all the regular characters already been revealed or if more will be revealed before the game is released.
Post by: Caterkiller on October 23, 2007, 07:17:26 AM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 23, 2007, 07:52:46 AM
Post by: NinjaWang on October 23, 2007, 10:51:51 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 23, 2007, 11:17:29 AM
NOT BUYING THIS GAME.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2007, 12:20:39 PM
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Originally posted by: NinjaWang
So Ummmm...Why is Captain Falcon not in the top post... hate to do it but.....Look at the site icons there is an F-zero Icon....
Uh...He is...Check under "Misc. Marvels"... =)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 23, 2007, 04:14:56 PM
Post by: NinjaWang on October 24, 2007, 01:33:36 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 25, 2007, 02:02:18 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 25, 2007, 04:21:05 AM
Post by: Plaguefox on October 25, 2007, 12:51:22 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 25, 2007, 12:58:08 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 25, 2007, 03:10:21 PM
Post by: ThePerm on October 29, 2007, 11:39:05 AM
Post by: HadesGigas on October 31, 2007, 02:00:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmxj-cly1Dk
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 31, 2007, 02:19:48 PM
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Originally posted by: HadesGigas
Solid Snake says Jigglypuff is in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmxj-cly1Dk
I doubt its a confirmation since Jigglypuff has been in two games already and he assumes she'll be in Brawl again, though considering she's a SSB veteran and a fan favorite I'll be surprised if she doesn't make it in.
Post by: Mashiro on October 31, 2007, 02:21:59 PM
Not that I'm complaining . . .
Post by: ThePerm on October 31, 2007, 02:33:19 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 31, 2007, 02:41:33 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: HadesGigas
Solid Snake says Jigglypuff is in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmxj-cly1Dk
I doubt its a confirmation since Jigglypuff has been in two games already and he assumes she'll be in Brawl again, though considering she's a SSB veteran and a fan favorite I'll be surprised if she doesn't make it in.
Why would he have to assume anything? He has recorded a com-link for each playable character., remember?.. =)
Post by: Ceric on November 01, 2007, 02:32:53 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: HadesGigas
Solid Snake says Jigglypuff is in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmxj-cly1Dk
I doubt its a confirmation since Jigglypuff has been in two games already and he assumes she'll be in Brawl again, though considering she's a SSB veteran and a fan favorite I'll be surprised if she doesn't make it in.
Why do you have to assume Jigglypuff is a girl?
Post by: NinjaWang on November 01, 2007, 02:50:47 AM
confirmed.
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 01, 2007, 03:21:59 AM
Yeah, I am believing more and more this game has to be around 40 characters.
Post by: Caterkiller on November 11, 2007, 02:56:36 PM
Post by: stevey on November 21, 2007, 10:39:48 AM
Post by: Sarail on November 21, 2007, 04:03:13 PM
Actually, her chances of becoming part of the playable roster are high... seeing as how she was included in Sakurai's poll AND ended up with a lot of votes.
She's in. I'd bet money on it.
Post by: Luigi Dude on November 21, 2007, 04:52:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Rachtman
Not a playable character?
Actually, her chances of becoming part of the playable roster are high... seeing as how she was included in Sakurai's poll AND ended up with a lot of votes.
She's in. I'd bet money on it.
Stevey was being sarcastic.
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 29, 2007, 05:11:38 AM
Although I still expect to see them as an AT, I had a great idea for the dynamics of a playable Ouendan/EBA.
Instead of having three characters who all perform the same move (like the Ice Climbers), imagine that you have three characters standing shoulder to shoulder and when a move is performed, they all perform a different action which still falls within the context of the move.
For example, When you Up smash, the left guy swings his fist up at an angle from the left, the middle guy thrusts his fists straight up, and the right guy swings his fist up from the right. The characters would work together to cover as much area as possible with each move, such as a down smash causing the left and right guys to leg sweep their respective sides while the center guy attacks the ground immediately below him.
Thus, as the characters are KOed individually, the area covered by the moveset would diminish (with the center character being the key character). I imagine they'd still jump and move in perfect sync, but they'd perform different functions in each move.
Post by: LuigiHann on November 29, 2007, 05:56:17 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 21, 2008, 01:51:13 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2008, 04:41:51 AM
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# Final Destination is now 100% completely confirmed.
# The ordering for character weight that was shown a few days ago lists the percentages that it takes to KO that character with Mario's Side Smash from the center of Final Destination.
# Wall Clinging is confirmed.
# Mario can be KO'd at 17% by a fully charged side smash from King Dedede. So from the characters we know, Dedede's fully charged Side Smash is the most powerful move in the game.
# The Pokemon Trainer's pokemon all get fatigued at about 2 minutes, even if you dont move them. They all show visible signs of fatigue: Charizard lowers his head and wings. Squirtle drops his front hands to the ground. Ivysaur's bulb withers.
# The Famitsu magazine confirms the starting roster is the 23 characters on the Dojo. (minus Snake and Sonic, and including Zero Suit Samus and Sheik)
# Once fatigued, a Pokemon becomes much slower.
# If you do an aerial dodge the precise moment before you are hit by an opponent, it will reverse the attack.
# The game allows you to access the rules menu directly from the character select screen.
# When Sheik attacks with certain items such as the Star Rod and Beam Sword, she swings upward twice with a single motion.
# The damage percentages were determined in training mode against a dummy CP and do not take DI in to account.
# Wario's bite can swallow and destroy items and projectiles thrown at him. Everytime he does this, he takes 6% damage.
# The magazine makes no mention of being able to start as Zero Suit Samus at the start of a match.
Here is the Character Info:
# The best three attacks listed for each character tell which attacks have the most knockback, and what percentage they can KO Mario from the center of Final Destination.
# All of the smashes listed are uncharged.
Mario
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 103%
# Up Smash A: 124%
# Down Smash A: 136
Peach
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Slow
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 80%
# Aerial Forward A: 124%
# Side Smash A: 135%
Bowser
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Slow
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 80%
# Aerial Up A: 87%
# Down B: 94%
Yoshi
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 112%
# Aerial Up A: 123%
# Down B: 123%
Wario
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Side Smash A:105%
# Aerial Up A: 120%
# Side A: 128%
Pit
# Number of jumps: 4
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: Yes
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Aerial Back A: 100%
# Side Smash A: 121%
# Down Smash A: 133%
DK
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Smash Side A: 75%
# Up Smash A: 79%
# Smash Down A: 92%
Diddy Kong
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: Yes
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 127%
# Down Smash A: 129%
# Aerial Forward A: 142%
Samus
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Aerial Back A: 115%
# Side Smash A: 126%
# Down A: 131%
Zero Suit Samus
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Side B: 111%
# Down B: 112%
# Aerial Back A: 115%
Fox
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 93%
# Side Smash A: 123%
# Aerial Back A: 125%
Link
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Slow
Best 3
# Aerial Down A: 84%
# Down Smash A: 107%
# Side Smash A: 119%
Zelda
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Arial Forward or Back A: 67% (WTF!!)
# Aerial Up A: 81%
# Side A: 104%
Shiek
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: Yes
# Wall Cling: Yes
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 89%
# Up B: 132%
# Side Smash A: 142%
Kirby
# Number of jumps: 5
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Side B: 83%
# Side Smash A: 97%
# Down B: 100%
Metaknight
# Number of jumps: 5
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: Yes
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 111%
# Down Smash A: 112%
# Up A: 130%
King Dedede
# Number of jumps: 4
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Slow
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 44% (Uff!!)
# Up A: 103%
# Up B: 104%
Lucas
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 75%
# Side Smash A: 88%
# Down Smash A: 90%
Ike
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Slow
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 48%
# Down A: 86%
# Side A: 93%
Pikachu
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Down B: 76%
# Side Smash A: 105%
# Up Smash A: 115%
Ice Climbers
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 110%
# Up Smash A: 113%
# Aerial Forward A: 129%
Olimar
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 79% (varies depending on Pikmin)
# Down Smash A: 92% (varies depending on Pikmin)
# Side Smash A: 100% (varies depending on Pikmin)
Squirtle
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: Yes
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Light
# Speed: Fast
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 93%
# Side Smash A: 119%
# Down Smash A: 136%
Ivysuar
# Number of jumps: 2
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: No
# Crawling: Yes
# Weight: Normal
# Speed: Normal
Best 3
# Up Smash A: 59% (Ouch!!)
# Aerial Up A: 96%
# Side Smash A: 102%
Charizard
# Number of jumps: 3
# Wall Hop: No
# Wall Cling: No
# Gliding: Yes
# Crawling: No
# Weight: Heavy
# Speed: Slow
Best 3
# Side Smash A: 83%
# Side B: 98%
# Up B: 101%
source: http://www.brawlcentral.com/
supposedly from Famitsu Magazine
pictures @ the link
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 27, 2008, 07:20:57 PM
In interviews and notices Nintendo keeps saying that the final number of characters is "impressive".
It could all be developer hype and be referring to how the starting roster is already bigger than Melee's, but I am starting to believe that there might be indeed more than 40 characters in Brawl.
Here's how I see it...
35: A basic and realistic number. Making characters is not easy, especially balanced and unique ones. Melee had to use clones in order to expand the roster. So even if they had nearly 3 years of development it still would've taken a while to make a huge roster. So 35 might be it...
40: A very good number and another realistic number. Sakurai could do it, and if he did he stopped right there.
45 and up: The impressive number. If Sakurai manages to go this far and the characters are balanced and unique, then it IS an impressive number.
Once again, it could all be hype talking. So in a few days we will see if the number is truly impressive.
Post by: decoyman on January 28, 2008, 02:53:59 AM
What I mean to say, is that 35 unique, well-balanced characters would be super-impressive to me.
BnM, what do the percentages next to the attacks mean? edit: NM, I can't read
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 28, 2008, 03:10:46 PM
But, I think 40 is doable, and Smash Bros. is one of the few games that really allows you to create really odd and unique character ideas...just look at Ice Climbers, and Olimar.
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 29, 2008, 06:06:30 AM
Post by: NeoThunder on January 30, 2008, 07:51:28 AM
Post by: Caterkiller on February 01, 2008, 06:53:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpBrpf2khI
Don't get too excited, but take a look at his smash attacks, and his aireal attacks. Most of them have COMPLETELY different animations from Fox. Check out the spinning wing attacks, and the reflecto throw.
Wolf is very different as well. Im looking for good footage for now.
Also, Ganondorf as far as I can tell still looks the cloniest. His warlock punch looks really cool now, alot more "magic like" for lack of a better word. Havn't seen his smashes so there could still be a ray of hope for non carbon copy falcon. Also Sakurai and the team know about his Twilight Princess sword, because he does use it, but only in a taunt.
