EGM gets one right for once! IV, V, and VI confirmed...
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Kairon on July 27, 2007, 07:19:22 AM
I like this rumor...
BUT WHERE'S MY VC DOWNLOADS SQUARE!!!?!?!? Argh.
And what's taking you so long with localizing DQ Swords, or getting FF:CB or even FF:RoF out?
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mashiro on July 27, 2007, 07:25:58 AM
Oh forget it. Square isn't putting anything on VC as long as they can get people to still buy the games for 30-50 bucks with a re-release.
(Which sucks cause I wanna see games like Chrono Trigger come out on VC already).
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Kairon on July 27, 2007, 07:30:15 AM
Yeah, I guess. I'm STILL puzzled as to why FF:RoF isn't out yet though.
... and I wonder if Nintendo can work out a deal to get SMRPG released on the VC at least.
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mashiro on July 27, 2007, 07:33:47 AM
Thankfully the ESRB has approved Super Mario RPG already with a rating for the VC so it's just a matter of time before it comes out.
I figured Nintendo wouldn't have a problem with releasing it on VC, kinda like how even though Rare was responsible for DKC and yet we got those games with relative ease.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mysticspike on July 27, 2007, 12:00:34 PM
Cool, I like Dragon Quest. Wait, isn't that the GBC game where you have a team of four people that follow you around.
My friend lent it to me a long time ago and is apparently at a loss to where it is, so, luckely, it's mine for the time being.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: that Baby guy on July 27, 2007, 12:09:54 PM
Quote Originally posted by: mysticspike Cool, I like Dragon Quest. Wait, isn't that the GBC game where you have a team of four people that follow you around.
My friend lent it to me a long time ago and is apparently at a loss to where it is, so, luckely, it's mine for the time being.
Really? Reaaaaally? You've got to be kidding. Tell me you're kidding.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mysticspike on July 27, 2007, 12:14:29 PM
What? About what? Y'wanna come here and say that to my FACE?! Just kiddin'. But what d'you mean?
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 27, 2007, 03:42:10 PM
Square: Announcement! Everyone: What is it? Square: Remakes! Everyone: Ugh Square: REMAKES! Everyone: We heard you the first time Square: REMAKES!!!!!
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2007, 05:40:46 PM
I hear the first DQ title to be remade is DQ4.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: KDR_11k on July 27, 2007, 09:10:40 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon I like this rumor...
BUT WHERE'S MY VC DOWNLOADS SQUARE!!!?!?!? Argh.
And what's taking you so long with localizing DQ Swords, or getting FF:CB or even FF:RoF out?
RoF?
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 27, 2007, 09:15:58 PM
I never trust EGM's rumors anymore, not since they got my hopes up by predicting a DS compilation of Mother and Earthbound that never came to be.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Darkheart on July 28, 2007, 02:55:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon I like this rumor...
BUT WHERE'S MY VC DOWNLOADS SQUARE!!!?!?!? Argh.
And what's taking you so long with localizing DQ Swords, or getting FF:CB or even FF:RoF out?
RoF?
Hes referring to FFCC Ring of Fates for the Ds.
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: denjet78 on July 28, 2007, 07:53:33 AM
I thought SE had already announced, in a sort of round about way, that they were going to be doing DQ remakes/ports on the DS. They said something about wanting to remake or port a couple of the earlier games to the DS before they released IX. Now someone's listing it as a rumor. Umm... I think it's a littler better than a rumor when the developer has already said that they would like to do that.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mashiro on July 28, 2007, 08:02:35 AM
Quote Originally posted by: denjet78 I thought SE had already announced, in a sort of round about way, that they were going to be doing DQ remakes/ports on the DS. They said something about wanting to remake or port a couple of the earlier games to the DS before they released IX. Now someone's listing it as a rumor. Umm... I think it's a littler better than a rumor when the developer has already said that they would like to do that.
Well if you can find a source that SE said they are definitely releasing the games then I guess it would be fair to remove the "rumor" mark. It's good to remember that just because a developer says they would "like to do" something doesn't mean it will happen.
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: couchmonkey on July 30, 2007, 06:42:08 AM
I'd like to see 5-7, I don't really care about the others as I already own 4 and...well, I suppose a remake of the earlier ones might be welcome, but at the time of their release they required way too much grinding for my current tastes.
Title: RE:Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 30, 2007, 08:15:46 AM
EGM gets one right for once! IV, V, and VI confirmed...
Title: RE: Rumor: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mashiro on July 30, 2007, 08:18:39 AM
Well the DS just upped it's money printing abilities 10 fold, updating from Rumor to Confirmed, thanks Bill!
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 30, 2007, 08:29:54 AM
For anyone who has played these and VIII, how do they compare? Because I found VIII to have WAY too much grinding, and even then the game was hard, making it very, VERY boring to me...But I love 2D RPGs anyway, and I would like to try and avoid these if they are like VIII in the grinding aspect... ;_;
Title: RE:Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Louieturkey on July 30, 2007, 02:19:57 PM
Let's put it this way, I know that IV is all about the grind. In fact, in part 3 of the game, you have to get like a million gold to pass the section and that is all about either killing monsters or selling enough of your own products in your shop, which ends up being just sitting there waiting for the next customer to show up. Then after finishing that, you grind some more.
I always thought everyone knew that the second genre of the DQ games was grinding.
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Sarail on July 30, 2007, 08:00:46 PM
And the games are looking quite good at the moment, too. I'm really excited to go back and play these... er, well... IV anyway. I remember playing the original on the NES. Never touched V or VI, though.
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Kairon on July 30, 2007, 08:11:54 PM
So ummm... are any of these NOT grinds?
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: KDR_11k on July 30, 2007, 09:44:16 PM
I thought the whole selling point of DQ is that it's a "hard, traditional" game, i.e. that you have to grind like mad and that just running through the dungeons won't net you enough experience to continue? RPGers seem to equal hard with levelling way too slowly and losing a lot of progress on death. Other people consider hard to mean situations requiring more skill to pass but I guess in RPGs you have to play the role of a guy who learns slowly...
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Mashiro on July 30, 2007, 10:41:34 PM
All I know is, DQ was the worst gaming experience I ever had and is responsible for me skipping over pretty much all RPGs except Mario RPG which destroyed my phobia of RPGs.
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Kairon on July 31, 2007, 02:13:02 AM
I totally loved the first DQ.... If it was any of the first 3 DQs, I'd be more apt to buy it willy nilly but I have no idea what the series turned into later on.
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: jakeOSX on July 31, 2007, 02:45:17 AM
i played DQ1 on the NES shortly after beating FF for the first time.
when i realized you had to open a menu to open a door, i stopped and never turned it back on.
i suspect that later games changed that...
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: couchmonkey on July 31, 2007, 05:03:25 AM
It's been too long since I played DQ IV to give an accurate opinion, but at the time I had played Final Fantasy IV and had already decided that I would never touch Final Fantasy I again because of grinding, yet I still enjoyed DQ IV.
It definitely included grinding, but I only recall one area where I actually had to stop progressing and just wander around and level up for like an hour. That said, a lot of content in the game hid grinding in a novel way for the time, which might not be so "novel" anymore. Louieturkey mentions Taloon's chapter, where you have to earn a ton of Gold...but it was somewhat disguised by the novelty of running a store.
Title: RE: Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: IceCold on August 02, 2007, 01:05:41 PM
Damn RPGs.. even the talk of grinding makes me sick.
Title: RE:Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: couchmonkey on August 16, 2007, 04:07:57 AM
I replayed most of Chapter 1 on DQIV yesterday. Impressions:
- There is some grinding in Chapter 1 but it's not bad.* Unfortuantely some of the other chapters are worse. - I hope they fix the menu system. Like somebody mentioned, you open a menu every time you want to talk. - More importantly, smooth out the talking controls in general. NPCs have a tendency to step away just as you talk to them. - I still love how the story works (there are four chapters that tell the stories of the various characters that make up your total party in chapter 5) but I hope they improve the localization - it's not Engrish, but it's bland. - In chapter 5, your team goes on auto-pilot. You choose their strategy, but there's only one character you can control directly. I liked this system a lot in 1992, but who knows if it has held up over time? - I like how death works - you lose some gold and are sent back to the last church you saved at, but you don't lose your experience or items.
* Obviously, everyone has different opinions on how much grinding is acceptable. Here's a rundown of my playtime last night:
5 minutes - Explored Burland Castle Town. 10 minutes - Explored surrounding area, gained a level, died. 20 minutes - Made it through a small cave leading to Izmit Village. 30 minutes - Pumped everyone in Izmit for info, cleared out the remaining bit of the first cave. 45 minutes - Returned to Burland Castle Town and brought a woman back to Izmit Village. (Around Level 3) 60 minutes - Found a hidden cave where a key item is, got the item and died exploring more of the cave. 75 minutes - Explored the rest of the cave and added an Uncontrolled Assistant to my party. 80 minutes - Made my first foray into the final castle, returned to Izmit for more supplies. (Around Level 5) 95 minutes - Made it through the castle to the boss, died. 2 hours - Made two more runs to the boss, died the first time, should have won the second time, but forgot to heal my Assistant before the battle and he got wiped out in the first round. (Around Level 7 or 8)
Personally, I enjoyed playing a hard RPG for a change. I should have won that last battle, but I got anxious and forgot to heal before starting. The grinding is a bit worse in Chapter 2, because the Princess is tough as nails, but her two sidekicks are pansies that die at the drop of the hat.
Title: RE:Confirmed: Dragon Quest Remakes For DS
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 23, 2007, 08:30:09 PM
