Post by: Grimlock on March 22, 2003, 11:01:05 AM
Post by: Taco on March 22, 2003, 11:03:56 AM
Post by: Grimlock on March 22, 2003, 11:11:57 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 22, 2003, 11:13:43 AM
Post by: Grimlock on March 22, 2003, 11:25:02 AM
Here's the link to their story on it.
Post by: Gibdo Master on March 22, 2003, 11:35:37 AM
Hey lets start a list of things we would like to see. Something I was thinking I would like in another Rogue Squadron game is a mode in which winning medals allows you to move up in ranks. I know that this is in each of the other two games only what I am talking about would actually affect the game. In the beginning you would just be a wing man having to follow orders but as you are promoted you would be able to take on more responsibilities and control and be able to use better ships. Also you would be able to return to older levels once you were promoted and since you would have more responsibility and control it would change what you would have to do in each mission.
I would also like to have more freedom as to how I was able to carry out each goal in each mission. One thing I didn't like in Rogue Leader was that it was to much like a movie that you were playing. Every time you play a level you do exactly the same thing every time. Giving you a mission goal of blowing up a generator or something and allowing you to do it how ever the hell you wanted to would definitely be nice. It would also be nice if what you did in each mission would have consequences so that while you can reach a goal however you wanted to there would still be better ways of doing it than others.
More control over your wing men would be nice as well as them having better AI. I want them to actually do random things instead of just flying in circles shooting at ships. Also the enemies should have better AI as well. Being able to take part in an actual dog fight would be great. I want to be in a situation were a Tie Fighter is on my ass and I have to use my flying skills to out maneuver him. Also none of that crap where if a Tie is actually on your ass you are killed after two hits.
Another thing that I want to see is that they actually get the Battle of Hoth right if it is going to be in this game too. Jesus how hard is it to get that battle to be movie accurate.
Finally they should make it so you have more control and maneuverability with the ships. I want to be able to pull of some kick ass Top Gun type stunts while a Tie is chasing me down.
Post by: Gibdo Master on March 22, 2003, 11:43:03 AM
Post by: kabalcage on March 22, 2003, 01:30:10 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on March 22, 2003, 01:49:55 PM
QuoteWhat do you mean? Are you talking about the story line?
Originally posted by: kabalcage
How about something deep this time?
Post by: Perfect Cell on March 22, 2003, 02:47:33 PM
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Post by: GoldShadow1 on March 22, 2003, 03:36:24 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 22, 2003, 03:58:05 PM
I'd MUCH rather see an ORIGINAL space-shooter. One that's not restricted by the Star Wars license, I mean, c'mon, they already covered the movies best battles.. What are going to have now? The best battles from the various obscure comics?
Bah.
Post by: Gibdo Master on March 22, 2003, 04:07:19 PM
QuoteThat's what I've been thinking. What the hell else is there to cover? Of course keep in mind that the majority of the first Rogue Squadron's missions were based on the comics and book.
Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Well, I for one am not excited. Not one bit.
I'd MUCH rather see an ORIGINAL space-shooter. One that's not restricted by the Star Wars license, I mean, c'mon, they already covered the movies best battles.. What are going to have now? The best battles from the various obscure comics?
Bah.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on March 22, 2003, 04:10:53 PM
As far as extras go:
A better designed Music Hall mode, with stop/play etc., and 3D models swirling around as you play in Music Hall like in the original RS.
A better training mode, complete with dogfights, taking out targets and so forth.
And most of all, an option to see scenes from the original trilogy, since the super-duper ultimate edition DVDs are still a ways off.
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 22, 2003, 04:20:33 PM
Post by: Mario on March 22, 2003, 05:36:58 PM
Post by: Reverse_Gecko on March 22, 2003, 09:43:08 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 22, 2003, 10:02:16 PM
I was gonna post the firsth thread about RS3, but then I saw this one, so oh well. I was too excited to notice.
But if they could make this like a game where you could actually plan your missions, and then actually jump into hyperspace yourself, that would be COOOOOOL!
They've done the movie battles too much, and now let's see how creative they REALLY are!
I had a bit of a hard time in the space levels; mainly because I couldn't SEE THE DAMN TIE FIGHTERS without the use of the targetting computer. Is it cause I don't have enough skill? Maybe, but a little improvement in that department would make the game just that little more enjoyable.
And please, no more levels like Strike at the Core. The Falcon definitely has better shields that that (every time I played, when I got shot down, before I got a chance to start again, the Falcon just got shot down straightaway - it's not THAT weak!).
Post by: StRaNgE on March 22, 2003, 10:12:32 PM
multi would be great, dog fights or even a co-op mode as well
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 23, 2003, 12:16:11 AM
Have any of you played Jane's F15? The game was a little too buggy for me to handle (common to a lot of Jane's games), but one thing I LOVED about it was the resource management. As your aircraft got shot down, and as you used more ammo, your supplies would get used up and you would have to skimp on some things until more supplies arrived. If the war didn't go in your favor, you would be using less and less of the good stuff.
I want to see resource management in Rogue Leader III, and some strategic and tactical freedom, along with some scripted missions. Maybe I am asking for the best of both worlds, but it would make the game fantastic.
I also want to see one last shot at The Battle of Hoth. The last one was quite good, but it can be done better yet I am sure.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 23, 2003, 12:52:27 AM
So no.
The idea of having ground based levels like in Battle for Naboo is a great idea. Having the speeder chase from RotJ would be awesome. There are loads of missions from the X-Wing books, and other Expanded Universe novels to choose from. Ground-based, air-based, and space-based.
And if that is anything to go by, RS3 will be F**KING awesome.
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 23, 2003, 12:59:36 AM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 23, 2003, 01:08:37 AM
And yes, the movie battles can always get better, but how many times do we really need remakes of those levels? Death Star Attack was perfect, except for the lack of the super-fast speed in the movie. They said in the commentary that the reason why there were those bridge-like obstacles was so the level wouldn't get boring; just travelling in a straight line all the time. Having faster speeds would be much more tense.
This level could be more like the movie - more dialogue between the other characters. When you're engagin the TIEs on the surface, wouldn't be cool to hear all the pilots talking to you? What about hearing the attempts of the Y-Wings on the trench? And the first group of X-Wings in the trench:
"Stay on traget!"
"Loosen Up!"
BOOOOM!
"It came form behind!" BOOOOM!
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that there are loads more battles from the books, and since this IS a game about the legendary Rogue Squadron, more levels of their exploits are expected.
Another detail they should add to the ships is that markings of the TIEs the pilots have destroyed.
Post by: Rogue on March 23, 2003, 01:16:07 AM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 23, 2003, 01:21:04 AM
Star Wars: Death Squadron: Rogue Squadron III.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 23, 2003, 02:10:57 AM
I really hope their other game atleast incorporates the promised elements of Thornado, because that must most likely mean that its an action/adventure just like Thornado.
Post by: egman on March 23, 2003, 02:36:53 AM
Post by: rpglover on March 23, 2003, 03:27:32 AM
you must beat the game first with the light side, then you could go back through all those levels again as the empire
the ships will all be different as will the mission objectives
that would be good
Post by: Chasefox on March 23, 2003, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: SmellySocks on March 23, 2003, 10:35:36 AM
I'm just speculating here, but if this is the big project IGN was referring to, I think there will some feature in the title that is drastically different from the other Rogue Squadron (:::cough::: online capabilities :::cough::
. I seriously doubt Factor 5 would release just some rehash of the same game on the same console.Can anyone else confirm hearing about a big Factor 5 project?
Post by: SuperCube on March 23, 2003, 10:38:30 AM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 23, 2003, 10:49:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Rogue Squadron 3?! Boo urns.
lol,
Mr. Burns: Were you saying boo or boo-urns?
Crowd: 'BOOOOO!!!!
Hans Moleman: .. I was saying boo-urns.
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 23, 2003, 11:15:13 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 23, 2003, 11:56:45 AM
Post by: ThePerm on March 23, 2003, 01:53:08 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 23, 2003, 01:54:30 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 23, 2003, 02:02:20 PM
Most of it has been told in the expanded universe novels, of which there are very many. The New Jedi Order takes place 25 years after A New Hope, I believe.
Post by: Slashman SG on March 23, 2003, 02:02:56 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 23, 2003, 02:12:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: ThePerm
hmmm....what happens after return of the jedi?
Play the original Rogue Squadron game.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 23, 2003, 02:20:17 PM
Although the game was a tad frustrating at times, it would get people to buy it no doubt!
Post by: TheGerbil2k on March 23, 2003, 03:36:24 PM
Post by: Mario on March 23, 2003, 05:10:45 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 23, 2003, 05:12:15 PM
But anyways, Factor 5 always likes to take advantage of every bit of hardware on a machine (hell they even said as much in an interview.). I think it's fairly safe to say that there should be some online factors in the game.
Post by: Roasted_Locust on March 23, 2003, 06:53:01 PM
Two things that definitely need to be in the game:
1. Better control. Quick button combos to do a quick 180 or a loop to swing behind a pursuer. Much like Starfox 64.
2. Multiplayer and on-line play. With on-line play and a lot of tweaking, which would never be done, RS 3 could be the Star Wars version of Battlefield 1942, which would rock. At the very least, a decent four-player game with multiple game types would make it an easy pick up for a lot of people.
Most of what I'd like to see just isn't possible, but I can dream.
Post by: SilverBack1138 on March 23, 2003, 06:58:21 PM
Post by: Grimlock on March 23, 2003, 08:21:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Where does it say anywhere that Rogue Squadron III is being made by Factor 5? Just my two cents...
It says so in the Gamers.com story that I already posted a link to near the beginning of this thread, but I'll link to it again for you here. There is also a link to the story on PGC's home page.
Post by: PIAC on March 24, 2003, 12:25:15 AM
/me digs through boxes to find the 5-6 xwing books he ownsi should buy the rest of the series
Post by: Rhoq on March 24, 2003, 03:00:11 AM
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Post by: Kai on March 24, 2003, 03:36:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Well, I for one am not excited. Not one bit.
I'd MUCH rather see an ORIGINAL space-shooter. One that's not restricted by the Star Wars license, I mean, c'mon, they already covered the movies best battles.. What are going to have now? The best battles from the various obscure comics?
Bah.
I agree as well, an original space shooter, with a better story and cut scenes, would be more fun.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 24, 2003, 04:14:28 AM
More variety, more adjustable difficulty.
Better graphics (OMG imagine the graphics, Factor 5 are the graphics king).
And it must have multiplayer.
I might just buy this one even though I never finished the first one.
I liked the first one but found it too difficult.
Post by: kelleman on March 24, 2003, 04:31:14 AM
We have it on our television shows, in our DVD and video taped movies and serials and very sorrily in the theaters (there is much debate as to whether hearing ppl would mind having the captions on the big screen while watching a movie). Its about time its included in videogames. It wouldn't have to be on all the time, just as an option for those individuals who have caption-ready televisions. That's my two cents.
Post by: Audio_of_Being on March 24, 2003, 07:52:29 AM
Post by: PIAC on March 24, 2003, 08:11:47 AM
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Originally posted by: kelleman
I would like to see Closed Captioning included in this game. I am a deaf gamer (28 yrs old and lost it 5 years ago due to severe tinitus) and I know plenty of Deaf gamers of all ages (practically my girlfriend's entire graduating class) who would welcome this type of thing in videogames.
We have it on our television shows, in our DVD and video taped movies and serials and very sorrily in the theaters (there is much debate as to whether hearing ppl would mind having the captions on the big screen while watching a movie). Its about time its included in videogames. It wouldn't have to be on all the time, just as an option for those individuals who have caption-ready televisions. That's my two cents.
that would be a great idea, i dont imagin it would be very easy to play rogue leader without being able to hear what they are telling you todo =\ on the other hand atleast most RPG's Action Adventure style games all have just text when your talking to NPCs (this will probably change in tomorrows games =\)
Post by: godwheel on March 24, 2003, 08:34:17 AM
I hope this game has at least CO-OP mode or some sort of online feature to warrant the purchase. I loved Rogue Squadron when I got it at launch even though I really dislike Star Wars in general.
Post by: kelleman on March 24, 2003, 08:42:02 AM
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that would be a great idea, i dont imagin it would be very easy to play rogue leader without being able to hear what they are telling you todo =\ on the other hand atleast most RPG's Action Adventure style games all have just text when your talking to NPCs (this will probably change in tomorrows games =\)
True... I got alot of enjoyment out of Zelda: OOT and the fighting games (which really don't require text except for the story heavy titles like Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat), though figuring out what to do next in Rogue Leader was tough. I couldn't have gotten thru it without some online strategy guides. I only use them if if there is no way I can figure out what to do next, after trying for at least a week. I loved the game and hope the next one improves in this area. It seems the games industry, when talking and talking about how much speech is in a game and then if I rent it from BlockBuster, and find that they don't have any text in it, I just can't follow what to do next. I have no way to follow the story and glean from it what-the-name-of-Alpha-Trion to do next and for me and probably many other deaf gamers (almost every deaf person I have met owns at least 3 systems and most of them have PS2s or GameCubes, and that is alot of deaf ppl, believe you me) that hurts our enjoyment of the games and loses potential customers down the road. I certainly hope the PLANETGAMECUBE E3 2003 DVD is captioned for the deaf and hearing impaired. Gotta get back to my sleeping son and wake him up. Time for lunch.
Post by: Phillpot on March 24, 2003, 02:53:41 PM
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 24, 2003, 11:47:14 PM
Factor 5 need to get out of just creating Star Wars games - they're good, but please, thay can be more creative, unless that creativeness is shown in Rogue Squadron III.
Post by: adamhap on March 25, 2003, 01:46:25 AM
Adam
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 25, 2003, 02:30:50 AM
adam: Yes, that was Factor 5 who got the DivX tools for the Cube.
Post by: Armed on March 25, 2003, 02:37:06 PM
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 19, 2003, 01:29:17 AM
is the new EGM already out?
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 21, 2003, 05:36:46 PM
"How does Rogue Squadron III look?
Matt responds: You won't have to wait much longer to see for yourself. In fact, by the time you read this, a batch of images will probably be on the Internet, and if not, they'll be up by Tuesday. In the meantime, it looks phenomenal -- somehow Factor 5 has done it again. But wait until you read about how it plays. I think GameCube owners are going to be pleasantly surprised on all levels."
There is nothing I can do but *drrrooooool*
Today?
So Soon!
*sits in seat twiddling thumbs*
Post by: Mario on April 21, 2003, 05:43:02 PM
Are these real!!!!???http://members.aol.com/rjett39163/rebel3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/rjett39163/rebel.jpg
Post by: Smadte on April 21, 2003, 05:48:46 PM
Post by: Christberg on April 21, 2003, 06:15:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
http://members.aol.com/rjett39163/rebel3.jpg
http://members.aol.com/rjett39163/rebel.jpg
They're fake. That's a photoshop filter to make it look like a scan. If you look at the pixel edges around the text you can tell. It's pretty obvious, especially in the top shot.
Post by: Mingesium on April 21, 2003, 06:23:58 PM
Post by: thepoga on April 21, 2003, 06:27:30 PM
it be a lot more levels in rogue squadron III. rogue leader was kinda short cuz they didnt have enough time to put all they wanted. they made the whole game in frickin 9 months because they needed to have the game ready by launch of the gc. they have a lot more relaxing time while making this so best of luck to the people making the game.
Post by: Mario on April 21, 2003, 07:32:29 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 22, 2003, 01:18:06 AM
*breaks down in chair from excess drooling*
Those ones are tons better than the ones you posted earlier eh Mario?
And Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike? Cool name?
I can imagine the possible title before this one:
STAR WARS: ROGUE LEADER II: ROGUE SQUADRON III
imagine the confused look on everyone's face when they read THAT title!
I think that although RSII was hella cool, there were just some things that just weren't really well done. I mean, the Falcon and Slave 1 aren't THAT weak! Seriously! And the hangars (Rebel and Imperial) should have more HUMAN and MACHINERY activity. The hangars just seemed lifeless, even though they were totally looking the part. Like in the Death Star levels, shouldn't there be more pilots heading to their craft, and more panic in the hangars? I mean, the Death Star's about to fire on you, and you're the only pilot in the hangar!
And if those fake pics are anything to judge by, I think RSIII would be the most graphically cool title to date on ANY platform.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 22, 2003, 09:28:11 AM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2003, 12:07:39 PM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 22, 2003, 12:27:00 PM
AWESOME INFO TOO!!!!!!!
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 22, 2003, 12:44:34 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2003, 12:49:13 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on April 22, 2003, 12:51:47 PM
Those shots are incredible! I remember how amazed and excited I was the first time I saw screenshots from RS2 and read info about it. I really thought I would never have that incredible feeling of "WOW" again. Well Factor 5 has managed to do the impossible and make me feel like that again. Why can't every third party get that kind of graphics out of the Cube? Come to think of it why can't NINTENDO get that kind of graphics out of the Cube?
Post by: Christberg on April 22, 2003, 02:59:49 PM
Still, a lot of the new features they're showing off in the screenshots look like exactly what I wanted them to do with the series so color me happy overall. Can't wait to play this shizzy.
Post by: AGENTDICKLAURENT on April 22, 2003, 08:06:35 PM
Post by: Mario on April 22, 2003, 08:17:14 PM
DAYUM! Rogue Squadron III looks incredible!! WOWZERS this looks like a definate system seller! It looks like the gameplay is gonna be heaps improved from the other ones too. I cant wait to see more of this game at E3.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 22, 2003, 08:49:14 PM
I didnt even beat Rogue Leader 2 but RS3 looks so awesome, especially with the outta ship foot action, I hope they make that feel right and not just a gimmick.
Post by: Mingesium on April 22, 2003, 09:57:39 PM
Post by: oohhboy on April 23, 2003, 12:31:59 AM
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Originally posted by: oohhboy
you seem to have forgotten how SOTE turned out. An average game at best. Also note that RS was derivated from SOTE, more specificly the fly levels. So I seriously think that they would not go back to that type of game.
Looks like I might have to shoot myself.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 23, 2003, 12:42:43 AM
I saw the new Mario Kart, Pikmin 2, and Rogue Squadron III pics and I just wanna say tha....
*head explodes*
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on April 23, 2003, 01:46:59 AM
Post by: mrcivic on April 23, 2003, 03:15:53 AM
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Originally posted by: AiAi
am i the only one not interested in this game? i wasn't impressed with last game.
Then you're the only one.
Anyway, the game is looking great and I can't wait to see it in motion.
By the way, why is this thread titled "Rogue Leader", when the game isn't called that? RL was the title of the 2nd Rogue Squadron.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 23, 2003, 04:24:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
OMG OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!
I saw the new Mario Kart, Pikmin 2, and Rogue Squadron III pics and I just wanna say tha....
*head explodes*
MARIO KART PICS!!!
WHERE??
Post by: egman on April 23, 2003, 05:11:47 AM
Man things are looking great 3rd party wise. Between Factor 5, Capcom, Sega, Namco, and what Konami is going to do, I don't think anyone can complain. My head nearly exploded the other day while looking at the trailers for the Capcom 5 on Studio 4's site.
To top it all off, Nintendo still has stuff up their sleeves. I haven't seen such ambition since the death of the Dreamcast.
Post by: thesos21 on May 14, 2003, 11:13:43 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 14, 2003, 01:50:44 PM
Is it just me, or is Factor 5 fixing all the complaints we had about Rogue Leader?
Post by: oohhboy on May 16, 2003, 05:48:33 AM
That is some great bumpmapping/texture on the trees. Look it has bark!
Post by: adamhap on May 16, 2003, 06:57:49 AM
Adam
