Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is an "EA sequel" (TM) to Medal of Honor Heroes, a PSP only title that got a C average on GameRankings. Not to be confused with Medal of Honor Vanguard, which was the first MOH game for the Wii and was decent despite being a WWII shooter and being very, very short (like five foot two)
Anyways (Hi Karl's favorite phrase) This game can be split into three game play types: Single Player, Arcade, and Onrine Multiplayer (32!)
Single Player involves an OSS operative (the precursor to the CIA, go watch the Good Shepherd and fall asleep after twenty minutes) He runs around Europe sabotoging the Nazi regime and shooting large amounts of said Nazis. I'm sure we've played similar levels a thousand times before, but the controls are supposed to make it fresh and new again.
Arcade is in the flavor of Area51 or Virtua Cop where the camera moves around and you shoot people. Impressions seem to give this mode a thumbs up, so it may be fantastic fun. I should mention that the game is designed to work with the Zapper, but everyone seems to hate it.
Online Is what I am most excited about and I can't wait to shoot real live people! (this is what we call a warning sign) It's 32, ahem, THIRTY TWO person online and you can join in the battles at anytime. This is very exciting and I hope the big games don't get totally killed by lag. I look forward to playing against you all. Oh! I almost forgot the best part. It doesn't use friend codes, but instead something called EA nation.
Teh Pix! Look How much better it looks than the PSP (stealth troll)
I'm not gonna bother with wasting more bandwidth so go check out more pictures at The official EA site
Disclaimer This game has been judged IMMORAL by senior NWR staff, so I don't recommend playing it.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 17, 2007, 09:23:10 AM
No one likes Medal of Honor anymore though!
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on July 17, 2007, 09:24:29 AM
Nintendo Wii can support online gameplay?
CONFIRMED ~_^
This is good news and I knew about it since E3 of course but still it's good news and opens to gateway for more online FPS games for the Wii.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 17, 2007, 09:27:45 AM
Wait a second, I thought Nintendo was doomed when it came to Third Party Support? I AM SO CONFUSED!
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: j_moose on July 17, 2007, 10:41:04 AM
I know we don't really know much about it so far, but what are your expectations for the game? I have been playing the PC version of Battlefield 2 a lot lately, so I certainly have high hopes for this game...but I am not quite sure that the online experience will be that great the first time around. Hopefully the Zapper will add to the experience (I am kind of concerned about the comfort of using the Zapper for extended periods). And, voice chatting would be an awesome addition (maybe Nintendo will release a headset for the Wii?).
Definately a game that I'm going to be following.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on July 17, 2007, 11:10:37 AM
Wow! You can play Medal of Honor either normally like an FPS, or as an arcade on-rails shooter in zapper mode! Though you'll obviously have to play it FPS style with online. And I doubt they'd include voice chat... not only would that seem to be Nintendo progressing faster than usual on the hardcore gaming front, but voice chat just brings up so many dangers and concerns and ways to turn non-gamers (and real gamers, I don't wanna listen to 12-year olds yelling at their mothers for chocolate milk) off to the whole thing. Also, the game will be a PSP/Wii release.
... You know, I just realized that the trifecta of Nintendo specifically outing RE:UC, Ghost Squad, and MoH, is like a little nugget of hardcore gaming (not to mention third party) drive we've overlooked. Is Nintendo aggressively pursuing light-gun games as a portion of its get non-gamers to play real games strategy?
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 17, 2007, 03:26:26 PM
A 32-player lightgun game? People get excited?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: j_moose on July 17, 2007, 03:35:54 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon And I doubt they'd include voice chat... not only would that seem to be Nintendo progressing faster than usual on the hardcore gaming front, but voice chat just brings up so many dangers and concerns and ways to turn non-gamers (and real gamers, I don't wanna listen to 12-year olds yelling at their mothers for chocolate milk) off to the whole thing.
I agree that it would seem odd to have something like that from Nintendo at this point - but that's something I definately wouldn't complain about. Sure there are drawbacks to voice chat (listening to a 12 year old playing Halo 2 explain why Jigglypuff was the best Pokemon comes to mind)...but if it can be turned off (or muted through a headset) then at least there's a choice there. I don't think it would turn non-gamers off (though clearly I can't speak from that perspective) as much as it would be a nice option for those who would like to add a little more to the experience.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: IceCold on July 17, 2007, 04:07:37 PM
Is it 32 player LAN or online?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: j_moose on July 17, 2007, 07:05:05 PM
Online.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on July 17, 2007, 09:18:56 PM
I wonder if the online multiplayer will be peer based or on a dedicated EA server. I assume a dedicated EA server. You know, I read another person's speculation that the 32 player online includes 4 player split screen on each Wii, which would make it 8 Wiis connecting at the same time.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 18, 2007, 03:25:16 PM
By 32 players combining for multiplayer mode he meant 32 people have to sit on eachother and fight for the one controller. =)
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on July 20, 2007, 03:03:22 AM
Lol damn Infernal that's like the third post that made me laugh. Well played sir.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on August 16, 2007, 03:11:11 PM
Notable Quotables: EA Nation 32 player online confirmed. NO FRIEND CODES No local Split Screen multiplayer An extra mission for the Wii version over PSP for both of the single player modes (wait, is the on-rails part a separate set of missions?)
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Caliban on August 16, 2007, 05:02:08 PM
If the controls turn out to be good, I'm definitely picking up this game just for the online, I will finish the single player mode of course, but 32 players online with abundant lag I expect will sure be a nice thrill as far as Wii games can go.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 16, 2007, 05:31:13 PM
Quote No local Split Screen multiplayer
That doesn't seem very smart! =(
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on August 16, 2007, 08:08:13 PM
Caliban, have you tried Medal of Honor Vanguard? I expect the controls for Heroes 2 to be very similar. You could tweak the controls a lot, so once you got it configured for the sweet spot, the controls ey were really nice.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 16, 2007, 08:55:42 PM
ENUFF WITH THE EFFING BLOOM. FRANCE IS NOT THE TWILIGHT REALM
"No local Split Screen multiplayer"
Wii just isn't good enough to do what Mario Kart 64 did.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 18, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
After reading up a bit on this I'm quite a bit more interested. The ability to play through either as a FPS or as a Light Gun-style game is brilliant and something that could only be done on the Wii. 32 Players online sounds good; I don't care about voice chat, I've heard the crap that goes on in Live matches and I can do without. The IGN article says that you can send prerecorded voice messages, which lets you organize the efforts of a team without too much crap from the inevitable idiots. Splitscreen seems like a glaring omission until you think about what it would involve. The only way splitscreen would be playable is on a large TV in 16:9 and that's only with 2 players side by side, so the way I see it there's not much point apart from co-op, which may not work with the OSS storyline they're using, or teaming up and going online together, which probably should have been there. Also: it may not be the best looking Wii game, but unless those screens are heavily touched-up I think it's obvious that they're not just using the PSP graphics.
I've got to hand it to EA, they've done a damn good job so far on the Wii, far better than any other third-party. EA gets a lot of crap from so-called "hardcore" gamers, but they've put real effort into their Wii projects, a lot of which would have been easy to shoehorn the standard controls into the Wiimote/'chuck, but they have actually innovated and done some great stuff so far. Keep up the good work! (also, if EA is still publishing games from Free Radical, I would really like it if they could "strongly suggest" that they give me a TimeSplitters game on the Wii)
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on August 18, 2007, 12:31:35 PM
I'm just worried that this game will come out half-baked and that EA won't give it the dev time it deserves.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 18, 2007, 12:37:06 PM
Well, as opposed to Boogie (which I am assuming your worries are due to), I think EA knows exactly what they're trying to make this game into. Take something like Madden, which I am currently loving, and you'll see it is a very polished experience, because they had a real direction in which they knew they were going.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on August 18, 2007, 01:59:05 PM
Well, I assume it will use the same engine as MOH: Vanguard, which was decent but the game, was too short and lacked online. If you want a taste I suggest giving it a rental. Hopefully they are working out the EA Nation on Wii kinks with Madden.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: UERD on August 18, 2007, 02:23:20 PM
Quote I've got to hand it to EA, they've done a damn good job so far on the Wii, far better than any other third-party. EA gets a lot of crap from so-called "hardcore" gamers, but they've put real effort into their Wii projects, a lot of which would have been easy to shoehorn the standard controls into the Wiimote/'chuck, but they have actually innovated and done some great stuff so far. Keep up the good work! (also, if EA is still publishing games from Free Radical, I would really like it if they could "strongly suggest" that they give me a TimeSplitters game on the Wii)
To be honest, Boogie was kind of a risk for EA in the first place. I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trying new things with the Wii. They're making somewhat of an effort, and I think they'll eventually get it right.
If the controls work right, I'll probably pick up a copy.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on August 18, 2007, 02:42:08 PM
I'll give EA props, they really stepped out on a limb with Boogie. I've heard the game started as an acting/puppeteering game, so it's no wonder that the game's always had a sort of image problem. But I don't think the idea behind Boogie is bad, it's just a real difficult beast to wrestle with. That sort of connection between you and the game actually requires a lot of attention and work, more than I think EA could reasonably risk given that the game was never on firm ground to begin with, and that they needed to hit the market before High School Musical Sing it, and before Sony's Singstar games started their Holiday rush. It's a pity the game turned out somewhat ineffectual, but I don't think that EA was wrong in pursuing the new ideas it embodied, just unfortunate to have bitten off more than they could chew.
BUT ANYWAYS...
I'm looking forward to Medal of Honor Heroes 2 quite a bit actually, but I'm concerned about the lack of info we have just 3-5 months away from release, assuming that the tentative november/fall 07 release date holds up. Not to mention I like FPS' as simple, guilty pleasures.
I'm actually UBER excited about playing the game rail-shooter/arcade/casual/zapper style, it seems a unique and interesting addition and it just makes me thirst for more zapper information even more. Add in the friendcode-less server based EA Nation multiplayer, and whether or not this game comes out this fall or gets delayed, I'm definitely making it a priority.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 18, 2007, 03:24:37 PM
After noticing the current release date (11/06) I'm hoping they delay it. I don't know why they would want to launch it in the middle of Nintendo's 3-Hit Combo (BWii 10/29, Fire Emblem 11/05, Mario Galaxy 11/12). The online play is a cool feature but at that time my online play will be Battalion Wars. I hope they delay it til the 1st quarter where it may actually be able to breathe and they can make sure to get it right
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Terranigma Freak on August 21, 2007, 01:12:27 AM
Hmmm, the game does at least look half way decent. I still think they could have done more to make it better. On-rails... not sure what to make of this feature.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 21, 2007, 09:06:33 AM
The original Frontline was practically on-rails, so this works.
They're taking a step back IN STYLE.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on August 21, 2007, 09:32:18 AM
According to this interview at eurogamer, the zapper will be supported in all modes of play, not just in the light-gun section.
Quote We also feature full support of the Zapper in all of our game modes, including multiplayer.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 21, 2007, 10:18:29 AM
Does that mean you can change which trigger fires your weapon?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on August 30, 2007, 07:50:42 PM
- Not a mere PSP port - Controls are second only to Metroid. - Rails mode controls better than Umbrella Chronicles. - Graphics are improved from MOH VanGuard.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2007, 08:25:57 PM
Oh god...oh god...
Third parties are trying finally.
Quote did we think that a third party could make a game that would rival Corruption's innovative utilization of the Wii remote? We said sure, yes, absolutely, it was bound to happen eventually, but we honestly figured such a feat would be several months off, if not years. ... What the demo also proves beyond any doubt is that the Wii rendition is absolutely not a quick and dirty PSP port and we hope all of our readers will take notice now because, frankly, this surprisingly adept undertaking is set to blow a hole through both Call of Duty and Vanguard before it. ... team members have periodically checked the message boards through the title's development cycle and are always disheartened when posters assert that Heroes 2 will be dumbed down mechanically or graphically on Wii. Sure, he adds, the two versions are bound to share some commonalities, like enemy artificial intelligence, for instance (which he notes is very smart), but Heroes 2 on Wii is brought to life via a new game engine, vastly improved graphics, completely overhauled controls and even a few exclusive play modes.
-60 FPS. -fully customizable sensitivities -can turn around in 0.5 seconds if you like -options for "easy lock-on", even in Multiplayer matches -appropriate weapon-specific cool wiimote moves, like swinging large machine guns left and right ala dodging in Wii Boxing -480p and 16:9
Nintendo Wii owners everywhere, please buy this game!
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: bustin98 on August 30, 2007, 09:24:22 PM
I'm interested, if not just for the multiplayer aspects. Please just let this game get released with as few hiccups as possible.
I was one of those peeps who answered a questionaire about this game. I wonder if it made any difference...
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 30, 2007, 09:27:35 PM
Not sure about this one, but I played Medal of Honor demo for 360 and wasn't that impressed. Talk about a repetitive formula.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2007, 09:37:15 PM
This is made by a different team though, EA Canada, which we all know as one of EA's studios that is focusing very heavily on the Wii.
Medal of Honor Airborne for the 360 and other platforms is being developed by EALA, who were the bit of EA involved with Vanguard.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 30, 2007, 09:38:38 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon This is made by a different team though, EA Canada, which we all know as one of EA's studios that is focusing very heavily on the Wii.
Medal of Honor Airborne for the 360 and other platforms is being developed by EALA, who were the bit of EA involved with Vanguard.
Well I'll consider, but I have SO MUCH I need to get. Heck I still haven't even played Scarface and I played Madden 08 for like 2 hrs.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2007, 09:44:22 PM
This is true. My copy of ScarFace is still shrink wrapped. I'm actually happy when I hear a game is delayed... like Nights is rumored to be.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on August 31, 2007, 03:47:18 AM
Scarface is fun! You should play it. I need to rent it again or buy it when it's cheap so I can finish the game.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on September 06, 2007, 11:26:41 AM
anti-aliasing CONFIRMED aiming is responsive and sensitive. two goals: nails the controls, make the best game in terms of visuals they can on the Wii.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: UERD on September 08, 2007, 04:39:41 PM
This game looks very, very promising.
I wonder what infernal force, however, has compelled EA to attempt making solid, compelling games for the Wii instead of the standard shovelware. I tell you the truth, nothing good can come out of this development! :P
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: darknight06 on September 09, 2007, 02:01:40 AM
It's called growing marketshare. By the way I'm getting this. Looks too good to pass up.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kenology on September 09, 2007, 03:15:15 AM
I thought I was pretty much done with Medal of Honor after Rising Sun on the Cube.
But after reading IGN's hands-on, learning about the online mode, and reading through this thread, I can say that I'm pretty much sold.
The fact that this thing controls as well as MP3:C and has an online multiplayer mode really goes a long way. The guys up at EA Canada are really putting some effort into this and I want it to do well.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on September 09, 2007, 04:48:24 AM
Where's my referal fees EA?
Okay, here's the catch: It's currently scheduled to come out the same week as Super Mario Galaxy.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: IceCold on September 09, 2007, 09:06:41 AM
Ugh. Well, I'll pick it up when it's a bit cheaper, then..
EDIT: There's a reason why EA's games are some of the best third party ones on the Wii. The few EA games I liked pre-Wii were EA Canada's games (SSX, NBA Street, Fight Night, FIFA etc). The fact that the Wii versions of many of their games are being made by a group from EA Canada was great news from the start, and it looks like it's paying off.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: darknight06 on September 09, 2007, 02:02:49 PM
Damn, a 100 dollar week! Better save up for it, I'm getting both regardless.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: IceCold on September 09, 2007, 03:58:04 PM
The money isn't as big of an issue as the fact that I fully expect to be so absorbed in Galaxy that the rest of my life will be put on hold
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on September 12, 2007, 01:08:38 PM
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kenology on September 12, 2007, 03:46:46 PM
Hey Shy Guy, can we exchange Wii friend codes? When MOH:H2 comes out, I'd like to be able to play with/against you in the game.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 12, 2007, 05:15:31 PM
That trailer looks really good. If I were to buy a WWII game (and after seeing that I just might) I think that would be the one. Too bad it will have to wait until SMG and SSBB get put down long enough to remember that the game came out.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on September 12, 2007, 05:17:17 PM
I got you added my man! My number is 2639-4438-4537-3501 I'll sign up for EA Nation closer to the game release.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kenology on September 13, 2007, 12:37:19 AM
What in the world is EA Nation!? I'm guessing it's their server, but more info please.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 13, 2007, 02:44:43 AM
Other than some bloom, the effects are very bland as in the screens. They're still pumping out PS2/N64 flat water in this game.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on September 13, 2007, 04:41:07 AM
Yeah the water looks bad but the explosions look decent. My biggest pet peeve is the belt bullet feeding into the machine gun isn't animated.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 13, 2007, 04:49:35 AM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy Yeah the water looks bad but the explosions look decent. My biggest pet peeve is the belt bullet feeding into the machine gun isn't animated.
Well, that settles it, I withdraw my interest from the game now. sale -1
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: darknight06 on September 13, 2007, 08:49:26 AM
Keep in mind the game is supposed to handle 32 players at once as well as keep 60fps. It's no surprise some stuff was probably cut back to get it.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 05:16:48 AM
So how many here and going to feel dirty and immoral for buying this game? I say give me GTA, that game is super moral!
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kenology on September 14, 2007, 05:18:47 AM
Not I.
I say we all commemorate our purchase by having a NWR deathmatch online!
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 11:26:25 AM
Quote Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix So how many here and going to feel dirty and immoral for buying this game? I say give me GTA, that game is super moral!
I have no interest in taking joy in war games so . . . I won't be buying this game =)
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 14, 2007, 11:43:41 AM
At least in this context, playing as an OSS agent, the lone heroic soldier model of WWII games makes some sense and isn't as immorally unethically disrespectful to the horrible reality of war. Ooh, I know, he was on a mission to find out more about Nazi disintegration units, which automatically activate after death! That's why the bodies disappear!
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 11:57:18 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro
Quote Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix So how many here and going to feel dirty and immoral for buying this game? I say give me GTA, that game is super moral!
I have no interest in taking joy in war games so . . . I won't be buying this game =)
Metroid Prime 3 is a war game of sorts so you PHAIL.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on September 14, 2007, 12:00:16 PM
You're not my friend anymore Mashiro.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 12:11:08 PM
I think people who like Metroid Prime 3 should be ashamed of themselves, it tries to cover up the atrocity of killing bug creatures by toning down the violence not to mention it spits in the face of everyone who fought in a war.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 12:31:33 PM
I've never liked those sorts of games anyway, sorry Shyguy.
And GP phails for taking everything out of context =)
Edit: ACTUALLY GP, you PHAIL for not realizing the remnants of battles and the destruction they bring are more than prevalent in MP3. Many dead Galactic Federation bodies remain and their reason of death is revealed upon scanning them.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 12:35:13 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro I've never liked those sorts of games anyway, sorry Shyguy.
And GP phails for taking everything out of context =)
Edit: ACTUALLY GP, you PHAIL for not realizing the remnants of battles and the destruction they bring are more than prevalent in MP3. Many dead Galactic Federation bodies remain and their reason of death is revealed upon scanning them.
But all those poor aliens you are slaughtering, they get no respect, there deaths are quick and simplistic. As we know in the real world death is much more disturbing, so in turn Metroid Prime 3 is disrespecting what real death is like.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 12:40:40 PM
Because GP likes to spin things I'll just post what I put in a private message to sum up my thoughts:
Quote I wouldn't go as far to say it is unethical, but I would say it is disrespectful to make an entertaining game out of something which subject matter is anything but.
War is war. It isn't make believe, it isn't fairy tales, it isn't made up games of people fighting in space. War games based on actual wars that fail to show the true grittiness and hellishness of war should not be made.
There ya go.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 12:44:25 PM
So where do you draw the line? Death is a very real and quite disturbing, yet games of all kinds simplify it, so isn't that in turn disrespecting the importance and impact of death? Shouldn't ANY game that depicts a war be put under the same light? If your definition of it being disrespectful to make war entertaining since it is such as terrible thing apply to any game that depicts a war? It can be based on a real event or fantasy, but the central theme, war is still the same and I would think out of being consistent you would have to condemn both that turn war into entertainment.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 12:48:03 PM
That's not the topic at hand now is it?
The topic of discussion (well which should be MoH2 Heros. . .) or more to the point my opinion is that games based on real said events (in this case WWII) which do not accurately depict the battles at hand and the true suffering and hell of war is disrespectful to those who served.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit for your edit: There is a big difference between real events and fake events.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 12:51:04 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro That's not the topic at hand now is it?
The topic of discussion (well which should be MoH2 Heros. . .) or more to the point my opinion is that games based on real said events (in this case WWII) which do not accurately depict the battles at hand and the true suffering and hell of war is disrespectful to those who served.
Just my 2 cents.
And how might you depict true suffering through a game? With a standard like that it is virtually impossible unless you built a holodeck. Regardless if a game/poem/movie/play/story inspires someone to research further into the event, that is not disrespect but opening the doors to deeper understanding.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 12:53:34 PM
Maybe make something like how Saving Private Ryan is and there ya go.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 12:55:28 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro Maybe make something like how Saving Private Ryan is and there ya go.
So a visual representation is true suffering? I'm sorry but the only way you are going to portray that is by actually INVOLVING the person physically in something like that, otherwise it is an impossible standard. Maybe the game should also let you rape an individual, because without that then it woudln't be a true representation of war, because that stuff goes on all the time. Then guess what? The game would be rated AO and no one would get to play it, brilliant! That is the way to teach people about war, make in inaccessible for most individuals. Heck at the very least "respectful" games to war would be rated M, closing the door on underage buyers, which in turn could be turning away individuals that may find something of interest and, yes, respect what happened there.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 01:34:12 PM
Quote So a visual representation is true suffering?
Many scenes in saving private ryan scared the ever loving crap out of me and certainly make me never ever want to be a part of a war . . .
Quote Maybe the game should also let you rape an individual, because without that then it woudln't be a true representation of war, because that stuff goes on all the time. Then guess what? The game would be rated AO and no one would get to play it, brilliant! That is the way to teach people about war, make in inaccessible for most individuals. Heck at the very least "respectful" games to war would be rated M, closing the door on underage buyers, which in turn could be turning away individuals that may find something of interest and, yes, respect what happened there.
Fun fact: I wouldn't give a damn if they didn't even make the games, in fact, maybe we could do without the whole genre of historically based war games.
How many people have actually gained respect for those events through games? Come on now, people just like to feel like the good guy shooting the sh*t out of the bad guys. From personal experience the people who really enjoy these games that I have met tend to show little in terms of intelligence when it comes to actual battles and are more along the lines of those people who think that they themselves can goto X country and put a boot in its ass and that they would be cool for doing so.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 14, 2007, 01:38:25 PM
Respect and accuracy doesn't sell games to the mainstreamers. So they cut that stuff out and create pickup-n-play fluff.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 01:41:32 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro
Quote So a visual representation is true suffering?
Many scenes in saving private ryan scared the ever loving crap out of me and certainly make me never ever want to be a part of a war . . .
Quote Maybe the game should also let you rape an individual, because without that then it woudln't be a true representation of war, because that stuff goes on all the time. Then guess what? The game would be rated AO and no one would get to play it, brilliant! That is the way to teach people about war, make in inaccessible for most individuals. Heck at the very least "respectful" games to war would be rated M, closing the door on underage buyers, which in turn could be turning away individuals that may find something of interest and, yes, respect what happened there.
Fun fact: I wouldn't give a damn if they didn't even make the games, in fact, maybe we could do without the whole genre of historically based war games.
How many people have actually gained respect for those events through games? Come on now, people just like to feel like the good guy shooting the sh*t out of the bad guys. From personal experience the people who really enjoy these games that I have met tend to show little in terms of intelligence when it comes to actual battles and are more along the lines of those people who think that they themselves can goto X country and put a boot in its ass and that they would be cool for doing so.
I personally found Saving Private Ryan to be overrated, I prefer We were Heroes. SPR was so dang cliche, whether it be the bad guy they let go (who would have more than likely been shot) came back to haunt them in a forced scene in the end, or an idiot taking off his helmet in battle and getting shot in the head. Nice generalization by the way, so now people who play these games show little intelligence in what real war is like. Heck unless you actually have fought in a war, you probably don't know as much as you think you do either. Since you appear to like making generalizing based on your experience, I've found that war games/movies etc have inspired me to look deeper into them.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Mashiro on September 14, 2007, 02:34:21 PM
Quote Since you appear to like making generalizing
But GP that is all you do is generalize so what difference does it make?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro
Quote Since you appear to like making generalizing
But GP that is all you do is generalize so what difference does it make?
Well your face is ugly.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on October 09, 2007, 09:24:10 PM
BUMP! With the Possibility of Smash Bros getting pushed back to 2008, Perhaps the 32 player online of Medal of Honor Heroes 2 will quench your online Wii gaming thirst this Fall?
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: IceCold on October 09, 2007, 09:27:23 PM
Freaking EA plants.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: couchmonkey on October 10, 2007, 03:50:26 AM
Nothing involving reenactments of real wars will quench my online Wii gaming thirst. I could just pick up Strikers.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: darknight06 on October 10, 2007, 06:03:50 PM
So, who's buying this assuming 90% of the game turns out good enough. (with the exception of Kairon, he's a given...) *raises hand*
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: bubicus on October 10, 2007, 10:16:10 PM
I would've bought it if it had split-screen multiplayer, since I generally have more fun playing on consoles with groups in the same room than by playing against people online. Since it's single-screen multiplayer only, I'll stick with PC gaming for this kind of online game, like Team Fortress 2 or something.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 11, 2007, 06:09:34 PM
or Hover
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: bustin98 on October 11, 2007, 06:11:15 PM
I'm buying. Its on my must buy list.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: jakeOSX on October 12, 2007, 01:09:49 AM
i was hesitant until i saw the screenshots in this months NP. the game looks great.
though i didn't want ANOTHER WW2 FPS. i'll just have to get rid of COD3...
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Berto2K on October 14, 2007, 03:01:35 PM
I'm asking for this for Christmas. After playing the arcade portion of the game at an EA event a few weeks ago I got hooked. Played a bit of single player mission and it secured itself on my list. Using the Wii Zapper with it also felt comfortable to me in the arcade mode (one mode with it setup at the event).
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on October 14, 2007, 05:00:07 PM
How were the framerate and animations Berto?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Berto2K on October 15, 2007, 12:05:44 AM
They looked fine to me. I didn't get much play time with them, but nothing looked robotic or anything like that. And seeing as it was like 1-1.5 months ago, i don't remember much as far as detail goes unfortunately.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on November 03, 2007, 05:36:01 AM
IGN has a video up on how fast you can make the aiming controls. REALLY fast. Click on "Blazing Fast Wii FPS Controls"
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Caliban on November 03, 2007, 02:43:11 PM
From what Matt said on their podcast they were having problems with their audio/video capturing hardware, that video is only showing 30 frames per second instead of the 60 frames per second that it can actually run, oh and any visible video distortions are also of fault from their capture hardware.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 04, 2007, 12:10:04 AM
Novices.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Caliban on November 04, 2007, 11:14:47 AM
Hahaha, coming from you I would believe so.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 08, 2007, 01:59:52 PM
IGN Gives it a 8.4 After reading this review I may actually get the game now, it sounds like it is a great 3rd party effort and that it has the best FPS controls out of any home console game. Bozon and Matt both said it is even better than Prime 3's stellar controls!
With statements like that I have to truly consider getting it. Like Kairon, I want to support 3rd parties for Wii, but unlike Kairon I don't want to support garbage. hehe
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 08, 2007, 02:27:17 PM
It does sound pretty good.
Gonna get it through gamefly once I'm done with Ninjabread man.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 08, 2007, 02:31:22 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Smash_Brother It does sound pretty good.
Gonna get it through gamefly once I'm done with Ninjabread man.
Has Kairon's spirit possessed you?!?!?
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: ShyGuy on November 08, 2007, 02:36:39 PM
Oh yeah, I'm buying this before Mario Galaxy just to spite teh Fanbois.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 08, 2007, 02:44:22 PM
Quote Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix Has Kairon's spirit possessed you?!?!?
Relax. I only rented it through gamefly.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: that Baby guy on November 08, 2007, 02:50:36 PM
I'd get it, but I don't like FPS. And I'm really bad at them because I don't like them.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on November 08, 2007, 03:50:02 PM
Thankfully, Medal of Honor Heroes 2 also has an exclusive mode that doesn't play like an FPS but an arcade on-rails light gun shooter instead! SWEET!
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 08, 2007, 03:56:27 PM
Hmmm...
Guitar Hero 3 Wii is doing really well...
RE 4 is a massive hit despite being a 2 year old game...
Zak and Wiki is one of the best reviewed and beloved third party games on the Wii...
And now MOH 2 has the best FPS controls on the Wii.
Looks like a third party rennaisance (sp?) is slowly happening...
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Kairon on November 08, 2007, 04:02:53 PM
dragged kicking and screaming...
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 08, 2007, 04:08:04 PM
Just saying that maybe third parties are getting the hint and their games are getting better and fans are taking notice.
We still have a long way to go but when a site says that the controls on a third party game are BETTER than some of Nintendo's own offerings it just makes me happy.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 09, 2007, 10:14:47 PM
This is the highest rated MoH game in years. Very interested in the arcade mode, if you get what I mean tee heehehehheheheheheehehehewhehehehheheheueheuhehuehuehuheheheehhuhhuwh I like light gun games.
It's awesome that the first EA game I want to buy on Wii is also the first one that's going to suffer months of delay for the PAL version for some reason. Usually their games arrive a day or two after America.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Post by: Terranigma Freak on November 10, 2007, 03:17:13 AM
Quote Originally posted by: pap64 Hmmm...
Guitar Hero 3 Wii is doing really well...
RE 4 is a massive hit despite being a 2 year old game...
Zak and Wiki is one of the best reviewed and beloved third party games on the Wii...
And now MOH 2 has the best FPS controls on the Wii.
Looks like a third party rennaisance (sp?) is slowly happening...
Not only that, but the list has VARIETY, unlike the Xbox 360's shooter, shooter, and more shooter catalog of games. Right now, all we can hope for is that both MOH2 and Z&W sell really well.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 10, 2007, 04:07:10 AM
Ahem, I mega-manned the first post for your viewing pleasure.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kenology on November 14, 2007, 02:00:52 PM
So I just tried the online multiplayer. It ran totally smooth and lag free.
But man, those dudes on this game are already beasts. I got totally pwned! People already had like 600+ points, what's really good!? The game just came out today!
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2007, 02:02:35 PM
Just picked my copy today and I'm gonna play it a bit while the roomie shoots for 120 stars in Galaxy!
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: IceCold on November 14, 2007, 02:26:56 PM
Quote So I just tried the online multiplayer. It ran totally smooth and lag free.
Seriously? With 32 players?
Damn, that's impressive..
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 14, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
I picked this up tonight, but I had a hard time finding a copy. I went to Best Buy first and they didn't have the game, then I went across the street to GameStop and the guy didn't seem like he'd even heard of the game, but he checked the computer and they only had 1 copy.
Now of course I bought the game tonight, but I don't think I'll be able to spend much time with it until I've played through more of Galaxy.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2007, 03:03:10 PM
This isn't the sort of game I'd expect Gamestop to have only one copy of...
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 14, 2007, 03:41:05 PM
Got this tonight at Walmart after being shut out at Fred Meyer, Game Crazy and Toys R Us. No time to play it now, looking forward to getting on later tonight.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: darknight06 on November 14, 2007, 04:54:20 PM
I managed to come in second on a couple of free for alls but yeah, the competition is fierce already. Even though I hear it's bad, I still want to try this with the Zapper.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 14, 2007, 06:08:51 PM
Woo! Nice to play some deathmatch online with the Wii! Still feeling it out, haven't found any sort of friends list. My EA Nation Username is: ShyGuy1976
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kenology on November 15, 2007, 02:14:44 AM
Mine is simply... Kenology
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 15, 2007, 07:12:28 PM
People are already way better online than I am. I need to quit my job so I can practice more.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Caliban on November 16, 2007, 05:10:35 PM
Anyone can look me up as Caliban.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 16, 2007, 06:28:49 PM
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kenology on November 17, 2007, 02:02:52 AM
Hey, cool beans. I went to add Caliban and ShyGuy and you guys already added me. Can we create our very own NWR lobby and frag the hell out of one another?
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 17, 2007, 07:04:49 AM
Sure, If I don't see a lobby tonight, I will create one that has NWR in the title
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: IceCold on November 17, 2007, 08:11:05 AM
Is the game any good?
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 17, 2007, 04:11:52 PM
So far, I would say the game was done by a very good team who had a small development window. From what I understand that game was only in development a year, and they concentrated on the most important parts of the game (the control and lag free online play) The down side is they didn't have enough time to polish up the rest of the game.
Pros: - Controls are very smooth and incredibly customizable. I recommend turning the horizontal turn speed up and narrowing the dead zone, but leaving it fairly tall. - Online play is very smooth, amazing for the amount of people per game. - The graphical textures in the game are very well done (except for a few holes) and in spots the character modeling and animation is decent. - The waggle aspects of the game are well done and fit the game well;
Cons: - The AI is bad, and the disappearing corpes annoy me (seriously, if they had stayed on the ground for a few more seconds it would have been nicer) - The graphics needed another six months of polish to be truly stellar. You will run into certain objects (like the trucks) that it looks like they didn't have time to re-texture since the first PSP version. Also, the animation while playing online can be a bit hokey. - The level design is a bit sparse, again most likely due to the fact that is was also developed for the PSP.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 17, 2007, 07:30:04 PM
I just had three good rounds in my created game (called NWR Funhouse) CTF seems the best mode in online. Really enjoying getting back into the online FPS thang. I will always call my game that, so if you are on MOHH2, look for it!
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 18, 2007, 07:40:04 AM
cool I am buying this game Thanks ShyGuy
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: darknight06 on November 19, 2007, 03:50:28 PM
So, who's played this with the Zapper yet? I tried it out online and aside from a couple of control changes it's actually pretty decent once you get a feel for it. I think the aiming gets a decent boost, but while throwing grenades is exactly the same, the execution of it with the periphereal in hand just doesn't feel as correct. On the other hand, using gun sight seems to feel a lot more realistic. I almost never used it beforehand with the exception of the Gewehr Rifle.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: singleman23 on November 20, 2007, 12:14:18 PM
Yeah dispite some of its graphical flaws, this game is a hell of a lot of fun. I agree some of the folks playing this game are brutal racking up over forty kills with not even half as many deaths. SingleMan is the name if you want another player
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: wulffman04 on November 20, 2007, 04:44:07 PM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy I just had three good rounds in my created game (called NWR Funhouse) CTF seems the best mode in online. Really enjoying getting back into the online FPS thang. I will always call my game that, so if you are on MOHH2, look for it!
I'll tell my friend to look out for NWR Funhouse, he isn't on the forums but he visits the site regularly
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 21, 2007, 12:50:03 PM
I got a question for all of you, I bought Fire Emblem on Sunday, but I've never played FE before, there fore there is no rush for me to jump into it now. I actually probably won't even unwrap it until well into next year. But I do want to try out some multi-player fun.
Now should I go trade in FE for MoH:H2?
it is 16 player online w/ no fiend codes or something like that right? and there are quite a few NWR people that have the game, right?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: darknight06 on November 21, 2007, 01:17:57 PM
It's 32 online, and I have it. If you're itching for a Wii online FPS get it.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: patriotsfan93 on November 21, 2007, 07:46:05 PM
Can anyone tell me if this game has 4 player split-screen?
thanks.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kairon on November 21, 2007, 07:50:51 PM
Nope.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 21, 2007, 08:20:44 PM
Played some Halo 3 deathmatch tonight. Makes me realize how superior the Wii controls are over dual analog, and also how much better Halo 3's multiplayer maps are
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kenology on November 22, 2007, 02:28:53 AM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy Played some Halo 3 deathmatch tonight. Makes me realize how superior the Wii controls are over dual analog, and also how much better Halo 3's multiplayer maps are
My friend brought his XBox360 over last night, but we couldn't play online because he didn't bring his internet cable. Sucks the 360 doesn't have Wi-Fi. But yeah, the controls were so hard to get used to after playing with the Wiimote and nunchuk for so long! I suck at FPS's with traditional pads now.
Also, I have yet to see the NWR Funhouse on MOH:H2 - what's good!?
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: patriotsfan93 on November 22, 2007, 10:58:51 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon Nope.
Oh... Well its still worth it anyways.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 23, 2007, 06:27:07 AM
Apparently in Germany the Wii version is not going to be released but the PSP version is. I wonder if people are being way too paranoid about the Zapper support . I suppose not a lot of people want to see another angry german kid.
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: Kenology on November 24, 2007, 05:54:36 AM
So, I'm just finding out we can create locked lobby with password protection. @ Shy Guy - how about you lock the NWR Funhouse lobby and give us all the password here and we can have a team deathmatch. Being as though you've been pushing this game from the beginning, I think you should have the honors of setting up what time we should all meet up in the lobby.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 24, 2007, 06:02:55 AM
Sorry I haven't created it the past few days, its been really busy round here. unfortunately I probably won't have free time until next Wednesday
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Post by: ShyGuy on November 28, 2007, 02:18:00 PM
Boom! Headshot! I have the NWRFunhouse up and going come one come all.
Title: RE: Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: MilkManX on November 29, 2007, 02:32:11 AM
Man this looks fun. I am gonna have to try this!
Title: RE:Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (now MEGAPOSTSIZED)
Post by: ShyGuy on December 08, 2007, 06:36:33 AM
Just finished the single player campaign, I'm a sucker for this kind of FPS game, but it wasn't anything special. I hope they can do something more unique with the inevitable sequel next year.