Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 08:45:20 AM
Miyamoto: We Haven't Seen the Last of Pikmin
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"I certainly don't think we've seen the last of Pikmin," he said. "I definitely would like to do something with them, and I think the Wii interface in particular is very well suited to that franchise." - Miyamoto
Source:http://wii.ign.com/articles/804/804275p1.html
Animal Crossing Update
Hopefully we'll be able to show you something before too long, says Miyamoto.
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The Animal Crossing team has been very busy working on a variety of different projects. Actually, the Mii Channel was put together by the director of the most recent Animal Crossing game. His name is Mr. Nogami. Recently he said he really wants to get back to work on Animal Crossing again, so hopefully we'll be able to show something to people before too long."
Source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/804/804252p1.html
Miyamoto on 1:1 Sword Fighting Game
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"We haven't announced anything, so I can't speak about any particulars, but we do have a lot of ideas about how we could potentially use the Wii remote for something like that."
Source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/804/804241p1.html
Aonuma and Miyamoto on Next Wii Zelda
Some ideas are being thrown around, but don't expect a sequel anytime soon.
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Shigeru Miyamoto elaborated on the likelihood of another Wii Zelda. "It's really hard to say because we've never had a Zelda that's appeared so early in the life cycle of the system, so it's definitely possible that there would be another Zelda on Wii," he said. "Of course, the challenge is that typically a Zelda game is something that takes three years to develop, so we'll just have to wait and see."
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 09:31:02 AM
Because I'm sure Ninty is really worried about the fate of the Wii at this point... *rolls eyes*
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Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2007, 10:44:44 AM
I find it funny that everyone says Pikmin is so perfect for the remote. Pikmin is very much an RTS designed so that it doesn't need a mouse. The remote has a lot of mouse functionality so saying that it's so perfect is kind of ironic. Pikmin's controls were made as such to avoid the need for devices like the remote.
"Also what up with the double talk, didn't Aonuma and Miyamoto already conform Zelda wii a year ago???"
I'll admit it's not encouraging. After all this talk about taking Zelda in new directions and such they don't seem too enthusiastic. You figure after not giving a Zelda a full go with the remote they would be excited about what else they could do. The fact that he mentions three years like it's a big deal is also pretty weird. The Wii hasn't been out for even a YEAR yet. Three years is plenty of time unless Nintendo plans on releasing the Wii successor early.
Of course all of it might just Nintendo employees being goofy weirdos as usual. I'm still waiting for Iwata to say something really stupid.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 10:51:31 AM
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I'll admit it's not encouraging. After all this talk about taking Zelda in new directions and such they don't seem too enthusiastic. You figure after not giving a Zelda a full go with the remote they would be excited about what else they could do. The fact that he mentions three years like it's a big deal is also pretty weird. The Wii hasn't been out for even a YEAR yet. Three years is plenty of time unless Nintendo plans on releasing the Wii successor early.
I agree 100%.
Remember what they said about TP? That it would be the last time we get a Zelda title that will play like this or something. (Pretty much insinuating a massive change to the game was in the works based around the Wiimote).
But as you said Ian, they don't seem too enthused about it and I hope that Wii lasts longer than 3 more years!
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 10:54:12 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
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I find it funny that everyone says Pikmin is so perfect for the remote. Pikmin is very much an RTS designed so that it doesn't need a mouse. The remote has a lot of mouse functionality so saying that it's so perfect is kind of ironic. Pikmin's controls were made as such to avoid the need for devices like the remote.
Wow, I never thought of it like that. Great insight... though it makes me even more excited because that means we'll even be seeing some new ideas on how to control pikmin if they use the wiimote!
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 10:56:19 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 12, 2007, 10:58:37 AM
And then you all act like this is Nintendo spouting out non-information. Of course they are, they have to. IGN is asking them BS questions.
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 11:05:48 AM
But I kid. Seriously guys, how does this mean nothing's in dev? This is Nintendo, they're ALWAYS in a sort of demo phase. It may turn into Mario 128, it may turn into Pikmin! Who can say at this point!!!
Also, in the link to 1:1 sword fighting, he leaks the info that Mario vs. Sega at the Olympics will have fencing.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2007, 11:09:07 AM
Part of that is probably because very little actually was annouced at E3. Most of the big games are titles IGN readers were well aware of already. The big surprise is Wii Fit which doesn't target gamers and thus IGN probably doesn't think it's of much interest to IGN readers. Nintendo has mentioned Pikmin and Zelda a little bit before so it isn't like IGN is just pulling random stuff out of a hat. Zelda is particular is something that Nintendo has mentioned so it's natural to follow up on that one.
Though in the same way you can't blame Nintendo for giving non-answers. Still a "maybe" for Zelda contradicts earlier statements.
Post by: mantidor on July 12, 2007, 11:11:07 AM
Post by: Crimm on July 12, 2007, 11:13:00 AM
Toss in some WiFi connection co-op...or dare I imagine vs mode.
The DS would allow the game to be made faster and cheaper. Considering the fact Pikmin 2 wasn't exactly a retail juggernaut it could make Nintendo much more likely to keep going on the series sooner rather than later.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 11:13:02 AM
Anti-fanboyism has a limit as well... =|
Ninty won't answer many questions on unannounced software, you'd think "Nintendo fans" would realize this by now...This is NOT anything new...
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 11:17:48 AM
It's the sheer lack of information even pointing to them being in development!
If Nintendo had just said "We have plans for Zelda but we can't discuss them at this time" I would have accepted it. Not this "Well you know Zelda takes 3 years to develop and we never released Zelda so early in a systems life so we can't say if Zelda will return to Wii" crap.
That's just horrible. Come on Nintendo TP was a GAMECUBE title with ADDED Wii functionality. There should be NO QUESTION that Zelda will have a full blown Wii game.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
And this isn't the first time Ninty has done something like this for Zelda...At GDC 2004, Aonuma was asked about Wind Waker 2, and he was all "Well, we may or may not be making any progress on it..." Then what happened at E3? A trailer of the game...Ninty answers questions like this all the time, and making drama out of it will get you nowhere...
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
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If Nintendo had just said "We have plans for Zelda but we can't discuss them at this time" I would have accepted it. Not this "Well you know Zelda takes 3 years to develop and we never released Zelda so early in a systems life so we can't say if Zelda will return to Wii" crap.
So... truth kills hype?
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2007, 11:24:02 AM
What about those of us who can't whistle?
I'm of the idea that yelling into a mic like an idiot for something that doesn't have voice recognition doesn't make something more fun. I say stick with a button push for the whistle (or at least make it an option) so we don't look like idiots in public. Other than that I'm not against Pikmin on the DS. I think the time specific concept of it though makes it better suited for consoles."Considering the fact Pikmin 2 wasn't exactly a retail juggernaut it could make Nintendo much more likely to keep going on the series sooner rather than later."
I really hope Nintendo doesn't make decisions based on Gamecube sales for games that weren't marketed worth a sh!t during a time where NOTHING was selling on the Cube. Nintendo can only properly learn from the Cube if they acknowledge that it's failings were almost completely their own fault. They're making Batallion Wars for the Wii which I'm sure sold MUCH worse than Pikmin 2 so there's hope. Pikmin is a series that SHOULD be huge if marketed correctly on a console people actually want to own.
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 11:26:48 AM
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Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 11:28:49 AM
I'm used to Nintendo and their style of news but you know what? Sometimes I just get fed up with it. Nintendo has a great thing going with the Wii and Zelda, one of its flagship series, deserves it's own Wii title built from the ground up.
Stop yanking our chains Nintendo. That's all I'll say.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 11:30:08 AM
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All I'm saying is Karion that even the slightest hint that Zelda may not make it to Wii is just unacceptable.
I'm used to Nintendo and their style of news but you know what? Sometimes I just get fed up with it. Nintendo has a great thing going with the Wii and Zelda, one of its flagship series, deserves it's own Wii title built from the ground up.
Stop yanking our chains Nintendo. That's all I'll say.
Would you prefer a no comment?
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 11:32:51 AM
Post by: Crimm on July 12, 2007, 11:34:23 AM
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All I'm saying is Karion that even the slightest hint that Zelda may not make it to Wii is just unacceptable.
I'm used to Nintendo and their style of news but you know what? Sometimes I just get fed up with it. Nintendo has a great thing going with the Wii and Zelda, one of its flagship series, deserves it's own Wii title built from the ground up.
Stop yanking our chains Nintendo. That's all I'll say.
You needa learn not to listen to a word Nintendo says. Really, there's almost never any rhyme or reason behind half of it. We know there will be a another Zelda game. Every system Nintendo has put out, except the SNES and the Virtual Boy, have had 2+ Zelda games. The only chance we don't get a second is Nintendo kills the Wii in 3 or 4 years and makes the jump to HD sooner than later. With current sales of Wii hardware that seems unlikey.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 11:35:22 AM
Post by: mantidor on July 12, 2007, 11:46:34 AM
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Well, mantidor, you're welcome to wonder about those games. But don't expect an answer if Nintendo isn't prepared to give one, and don't expect an answer to materialize just because you want one. Nintendo doesn't bend to the whim of every finger-tapping moron on the internet, they've got a business plan and they have development times and they have to keep up anticipation for things. Why would they confirm a new Zelda game and Pikmin when they're already spreading their resources pretty thin, between SMG, MP3, and SSBB, to name the big ones. How about we wait until those are released, and then expect some information.
why is it so wrong for me to ask for the things I want? why its so wrong to be dissapointed that I don't get an answer? apparently this puts me in the level of morons, while your "Nintendo's finances are the most important thing!" make you feel better, I guess you have stocks on them or something. I also don't see how not confirming or hinting positively rather than negatively doesn't allow them to "keep up anticipation for things", thats just... jeez, I have no words, you keep anticipation by not announcing or hinting about a game? really?
One thing is for sure, if miyamoto whould have said "theres always new ideas for zelda in the works but they take time" as opposed to what he said, and my example says just as much as his statement, you would never have come to this thread saying "damn, they are spreading their resources pretty thin, what are you doing Nintendo!?".
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 11:46:44 AM
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Yeah I guess I shouldn't listen to them but it's hard not to >.<
PErsonally I thought they let out enough, it is good to know that Pikmin is not forgotten and there is a BIG chance of it returning, and that Animal Crossing should be shown soon. What more can you ask for?
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 12, 2007, 11:48:16 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
"Old franchises that we haven't seen on Wii yet that some people are asking about are in work for the system and you don't have to worry about them."
There's your non-answer on hardcore games...Now stop the whining...
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 11:50:43 AM
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I'm pretty much harking on the Zelda response GP, I don't really have an issue with the rest.
Maybe they don't know, maybe it was an honest answer. Like Jack stated there may be things going on behind the scenes that makes the next Zelda unsure.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 11:53:00 AM
Zelda should not be an unsure issue for Wii. It just shouldn't. Period. Zelda TP was a great fantastic game but it was designed to be on the Cube and was delayed for added Wii functionality. Wii should without a doubt get a Zelda built from the ground up for the system. It shouldn't be a maybe or a possibility it just should happen.
That's my opinion on the matter.
Post by: ShyGuy on July 12, 2007, 11:53:38 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:05:16 PM
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Ok I'm gonna try to make my point on Zelda as clear as I can:
Zelda should not be an unsure issue for Wii. It just shouldn't. Period. Zelda TP was a great fantastic game but it was designed to be on the Cube and was delayed for added Wii functionality. Wii should without a doubt get a Zelda built from the ground up for the system. It shouldn't be a maybe or a possibility it just should happen.
That's my opinion on the matter.
But if they aren't sure, they shouldn't be stating they are sure. I agree, there should be a Zelda game made up from the ground up for Wii but if, for whatever behind the scenes reason, Miyamoto and co aren't sure, I'd rather them tell me that than say it isn't or it is.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:09:50 PM
So once again to reiterate, my problem isn't them telling the truth (again maybe), it's the fact that the truth they tell is just so wrong. Wii Zelda should be one of those things that is just going to happen.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:11:42 PM
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::sighs:: GP it isn't that they answered (maybe) truthfully on the issue that's annoying me. It's that Zelda having the remote possibility of not being on Wii that annoys me. It should just not be in question.
So once again to reiterate, my problem isn't them telling the truth (again maybe), it's the fact that the truth they tell is just so wrong. Wii Zelda should be one of those things that is just going to happen.
What if the Wii will have a short lifespan and will have an upgrade in a couple of years like Mr. Jack suggested? I'd much rather wait another generation for a GREAT Zelda game then have one rushed out the door in a year or two that is GOOD. Regardless though I do understand your concerns, but really I think it is too early to get too upset, at the earliest a new Zelda game would probably take 2 years since it would be built from the ground up.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:14:37 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2007, 12:15:33 PM
Nintendo has changed though so what used to be a given no longer certainly is. A few years ago Nintendo would never even have released something like Wii Fit and they sure as hell wouldn't have made it the main focus of their E3 presentation. A few years ago the Japanese market still had good tastes... I mean was interested in gaming. A few years ago "non-gamer" wasn't a term anyone used and no one including Nintendo ever thought about targeting them specifically beyond just hoping a game designed for gamers had crossover appeal. This is a different Nintendo with different goals so what happened in the past is irrelevent. We can't assume anything when it comes to traditional gaming which Zelda falls into. We can't even assume normal console lifespans. After all Nintendo's portables, which have been more popular with the mainstream, have not had a five year lifespan since the original Gameboy. The GBC and GBA were both cut short and the target demo didn't seem to care. Idiots buy a new iPod they don't need every few years so why not a new console?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:15:47 PM
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If the Wii has such a short life span well then I don't know. It'd be kinda sad cause that means this rush of games will probably be the last we see on the system =/
That is true, but then again look at it this way we are getting one heck of a gaming lineup this august through christmas, never before seen on a Nintendo system.
Post by: mantidor on July 12, 2007, 12:16:20 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:17:09 PM
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"We know there will be a another Zelda game. Every system Nintendo has put out, except the SNES and the Virtual Boy, have had 2+ Zelda games."
Nintendo has changed though so what used to be a given no longer certainly is. A few years ago Nintendo would never even have released something like Wii Fit and they sure as hell wouldn't have made it the main focus of their E3 presentation. A few years ago the Japanese market still had good tastes... I mean was interested in gaming. A few years ago "non-gamer" wasn't a term anyone used and no one including Nintendo ever thought about targeting them specifically beyond just hoping a game designed for gamers had crossover appeal. This is a different Nintendo with different goals so what happened in the past is irrelevent. We can't assume anything when it comes to traditional gaming which Zelda falls into. We can't even assume normal console lifespans. After all Nintendo's portables, which have been more popular with the mainstream, have not had a five year lifespan since the original Gameboy. The GBC and GBA were both cut short and the target demo didn't seem to care. Idiots buy a new iPod they don't need every few years so why not a new console?
So people who like casual games don't have any taste? Get off your high horse Ian, and realize good games aren't what Ian thinks are good games.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:18:32 PM
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I personally doubt we won't see a zelda wii, I'm dissapointed because of the attitude towards it. I remember Nintendo themselves saying "theres always a Zelda in the works, we finish one we go to the next one", so this change in their non-speak, however small, is disheartening, it really starts to look like Miyamoto feels Zelda is a chore that he has to put out for the old fanbase but he'll rather do something else. And they should let him go to his other projects if thats the case, Aonuma is more than capable, unless Aonuma also feels the same, which will leave me crying.
Well said, I agree.
Edit: the one thing I will agree with Ian is that you cannot take standards from the past and always apply them.
For example: Anyone remember when all new Nintendo systems launched with a Mario title?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:19:28 PM
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I personally doubt we won't see a zelda wii, I'm dissapointed because of the attitude towards it. I remember Nintendo themselves saying "theres always a Zelda in the works, we finish one we go to the next one", so this change in their non-speak, however small, is disheartening, it really starts to look like Miyamoto feels Zelda is a chore that he has to put out for the old fanbase but he'll rather do something else. And they should let him go to his other projects if thats the case, Aonuma is more than capable, unless Aonuma also feels the same, which will leave me crying.
Yeah but I thought Zelda: TP was ruined and lacked polished because it had Wii controls implemented, which Aonuma had a dastardly hand in. AT least I remember a certain someone saying that.
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 12:20:14 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Zelda should not be an unsure issue for Wii. It just shouldn't. Period. Zelda TP was a great fantastic game but it was designed to be on the Cube and was delayed for added Wii functionality. Wii should without a doubt get a Zelda built from the ground up for the system. It shouldn't be a maybe or a possibility it just should happen.
I'd love for that level of assurety about what the future holds three years down the line but... well, you just had a first-row seat to witness what happened over just ONE year with the Wii and the entire industry turning upside down.
I can understand your need to be comforted that "We're already working on another Zelda," but with a typical three year dev time, Nintendo REALLY can't promise ANYTHING... except that the game will be delayed multiple times. That's the ONLY thing you can count on: delays (and death and taxes).
Okay... how's this for some comfort about what the future holds.
I can guarantee you 100% that Nintendo is already working on the successor to the Wii. Happy now?
Post by: Crimm on July 12, 2007, 12:20:23 PM
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Now stop the whining...
You new to the Internet?
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:21:50 PM
Edit: To further elaborate, for all intensive purposes the new Zelda should have already been in the planing stages around 2005. It was really delayed for it's release only because of the Wii controls. It's very disheartening to here that whole 3 year remark because that could mean development hasn't even begun yet.
See what I am saying?
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 12:23:39 PM
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I personally doubt we won't see a zelda wii, I'm dissapointed because of the attitude towards it. I remember Nintendo themselves saying "theres always a Zelda in the works, we finish one we go to the next one", so this change in their non-speak, however small, is disheartening, it really starts to look like Miyamoto feels Zelda is a chore that he has to put out for the old fanbase but he'll rather do something else. And they should let him go to his other projects if thats the case, Aonuma is more than capable, unless Aonuma also feels the same, which will leave me crying.
Yeah but I thought Zelda: TP was ruined and lacked polished because it had Wii controls implemented, which Aonuma had a dastardly hand in. AT least I remember a certain someone saying that.
*looks up* All I was saying was that ... *dawn break over marble head* OH! You're not talking about me! ...uh... *scoots away*
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:24:09 PM
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I think the only person here who understands my point is Mantidor.
Edit: To further elaborate, for all intensive purposes the new Zelda should have already been in the planing stages around 2005. It was really delayed for it's release only because of the Wii controls. It's very disheartening to here that whole 3 year remark because that could mean development hasn't even begun yet.
See what I am saying?
I understood your point perfectly.
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 12:24:45 PM
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Edit: To further elaborate, for all intensive purposes the new Zelda should have already been in the planing stages around 2005. It was really delayed for it's release only because of the Wii controls.
That is PATENTLY false and you know it. Miyamoto himself suggested in the Wii.com interviews that Zelda was a bit of mess in fall 2005. AND what about Aonouma directing PH?
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:31:36 PM
If Twilight Princess NEVER saw a port to Wii, there is the open potential that Wii may not see a Zelda.
Imagine for a second if things were switched around a bit. Say....Super Mario Sunshine was the last GC first party game to be released by Nintendo. Then they announce a version for Wii will be available. Now flash forward and they say "Well you know Mario games take 3 years to develop, there is a possibility of it being on Wii but we don't know at this time".
Now I'm not comparing SS to the quality of TP but I'm just trying to use it as an example as to how messed up the situation would be for another title.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2007, 12:34:09 PM
No people who dislike real games have no taste. In Japan it's not just that non-games are selling like mad but also that gaming is no longer popular. Most people on this forum who go nuts over WiiSports also love Twilight Princess - non-games are an addition to real games, not a replacement. Nintendo was disappointed in TP's sales in Japan while WiiPlay was a huge success and outsold it. If that isn't sh!tty taste in games what is?
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:38:57 PM
I'm sure someone in Japan could beat me at soul calibur while playing Halo on Xbox live while also getting an A on DDR Max's hardest song.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 12, 2007, 12:42:56 PM
Post by: mantidor on July 12, 2007, 12:43:59 PM
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I personally doubt we won't see a zelda wii, I'm dissapointed because of the attitude towards it. I remember Nintendo themselves saying "theres always a Zelda in the works, we finish one we go to the next one", so this change in their non-speak, however small, is disheartening, it really starts to look like Miyamoto feels Zelda is a chore that he has to put out for the old fanbase but he'll rather do something else. And they should let him go to his other projects if thats the case, Aonuma is more than capable, unless Aonuma also feels the same, which will leave me crying.
Yeah but I thought Zelda: TP was ruined and lacked polished because it had Wii controls implemented, which Aonuma had a dastardly hand in. AT least I remember a certain someone saying that.
I don't know what has to do with my post but...
I NEVER said the game lacked polish.
I've NEVER blamed Aonuma, he rocks and had no choice, I didn't believe in his explanation and I've always blamed Nintendo's excecs, if anything, I guess Iwata, maybe Miyamoto, but I rather keep that in a more general sense, money was the reason, not controls or "Zelda is getting stale" excuses.
My knee reaction to the news of the port was something not seen before from me, thats for sure, but I don't recall calling the game "ruined" either, my problem was that this was a cheap thing to do, but I never said the GC original or even the wii port would be "unplayable" or anything close to that, just that it was mediocre, average, merely "ok", in other words, not the quality you expect from a Zelda game.
in case you were talking about me... you never know :P
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:44:41 PM
(I mainly remember watching some guy own in Tekken with one hand and though "I wonder what he could do with the other hand while owning in Tekken..." and I kinda just get wacky ideas from that).
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:49:22 PM
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:50:41 PM
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All I have to say is Phantom Hourglass looks like it could compete with LTTP my all time favorite Zelda game!
Ahhh I am interested in Phantom Hour Glass. . . if it is as good as everyone says ALttP may be knocked off its thrown but I'll wait and see! =)
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 12, 2007, 12:51:30 PM
In any case, that interview was Miyamoto side stepping a question he wasn't entirely interested in answering for whatever reason. There is really little to worry about in the grand scheme of things. And like Miyamoto said it takes 3 years to make a Zelda anyway, so sit back and relax and enjoy the other Wii titles coming to the system in the mean time.
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 12, 2007, 12:53:12 PM
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All I have to say is Phantom Hourglass looks like it could compete with LTTP my all time favorite Zelda game!
No doubt, Phantom Hourglass is going to be awesome.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 12:56:41 PM
Mayhaps Wii 2 will merely be a power upgrade with the same controls, allowing Nintendo to build upon what they already have without games seeming TOO dated.
Would make sense. Though games like SMG make me think the Wii has loads of potential the most developers don't even come close to touching.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 12:59:42 PM
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All I have to say is Phantom Hourglass looks like it could compete with LTTP my all time favorite Zelda game!
No doubt, Phantom Hourglass is going to be awesome.
What makes me so excited about PH is that it is actually the first traditional style (Overhead) Zelda game since Link's Awakening that is actually made by Nintendo and not given out to a third party.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 01:09:00 PM
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No doubt, Phantom Hourglass is going to be awesome.
Speaking as someone who is near-finished with the game, it IS awesome...
Oh yeah, and Zelda details coming out of the Nintendo Roundtable going on right now...
4:25 ~ Aonuma has a bullet-point list of features in his head already that he wants to implement in the next Zelda. Miyamoto forbade him from letting us in on the secret, though. Rats.
4:26 ~ But he says he has a child-like excitement about something new like this, and he wants to let us in on the info immediately.
4:28 ~ Luckily, he doesn't want us to wait for years on end to receive details on the next Zelda, as we've had to do in the past. What a nice guy.
Dur dur, doesn't sound much like Ninty ignoring Zelda...
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 12, 2007, 01:12:42 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 01:14:47 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on July 12, 2007, 01:33:11 PM
Post by: Sarail on July 12, 2007, 02:06:38 PM
I just wanna know this bullcrap that Matt Cassamassina was touting for E3 concerning a Nintendo franchise being brought back from the "dead". Kid Icarus? Punch-Out!!? Mach Rider? What's the deal, Matt? We've gotten no such thing thus far. Grr.
Post by: stevey on July 12, 2007, 03:47:54 PM
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crecente: Q: Will you be applying simplified controls to all future Zelda games?
A: How you streamline gameplay has been effective, but Im waiting to see the response to the US and European version before making that decision.
7:31
crecente: Question: Would a new Zelda Wii game have one to one motion controls for the sword.
Answer: Would you like that? We are still planning things out so we're glad to hear any suggestions.
7:28
crecente: "There are several things I'd like to do with the next Zelda project and I have them bullet pointed in my mind."
Aonuma wanted to tell us them, but he said Miyamoto nixed the idea because it was too early in the process and they weren't 100 percent sure they were doable.
I can see why Miyamoto said that Zelda wii might not be released for the wii now. Not because Zelda wii isn't in development or that he is lying but because the game is more like how Mario galaxy/128 was in development 5 years ago. Back when it was going to be the cube 2nd Mario game but Miyamoto took 3 years just to come up with a new ideas to reinvent Mario like he now trying to do with Zelda. So Zelda could get delayed all the way to the next Nintendo system if it take Miyamoto that long to find the perfect way to revolutionize Zelda. I'm hoping for the jump from OoT>Twilight princess>Zelda wii will be the same jump as 64>Sunshine >Galaxy.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 03:48:47 PM
Thanks for the support there Rachtman =) and yeah didn't Matt allude to some title being brought back from the "dead"? Oh well maybe at TGS?
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 04:15:04 PM
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 04:19:18 PM
Post by: LuigiHann on July 12, 2007, 05:15:48 PM
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True Mr. Jack true.
Mayhaps Wii 2 will merely be a power upgrade with the same controls, allowing Nintendo to build upon what they already have without games seeming TOO dated.
Wii 2 is just two wiis duct taped together
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 05:37:15 PM
Post by: Sarail on July 12, 2007, 05:42:53 PM
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I think I can delay my rage a couple months to wait for TGS...If Golden Sun isn't revealed there, you know what'll happen... >=)
I'm assuming you read about the same thing I read about today then... :P
I really REALLY seriously hope that Camelot does in fact have a new Golden Sun in the works. Whether it's for DS or Wii, I don't care. I just want a conclusion to the awesome storyline that is Golden Sun. Then after that, pull a Square-Enix and make Golden Sun Nintendo's "Final Fantasy". I could see a long series just like FF created out of that style of RPG. Golden Sun rocks!
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2007, 05:45:53 PM
Post by: Sarail on July 12, 2007, 05:58:34 PM
They need to just ditch that online golf stuff they're doing and focus on making Golden Sun the best RPG experience ever.
I'm dead serious in wanting this RPG series to be long-running just like Final Fantasy. Camelot could do amazing things with it. All the characters have great personality. Far better than some FFes I've played.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 06:10:44 PM
It's a wonderful series and certainly deserves to be continued.
Post by: Sarail on July 12, 2007, 06:13:50 PM
The main Final Fantasy series, Dragon Quest series, AND the brand new flagship Golden Sun series... ALL on Nintendo's console....
Gah, I think I just asploded. o_O
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 06:14:55 PM
Post by: Sarail on July 12, 2007, 06:16:00 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2007, 06:23:26 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 12, 2007, 08:16:44 PM
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It'd be pure insanity =D
You also forget about Monolith who is known for RPGs as well!
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 13, 2007, 12:29:37 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 13, 2007, 12:39:17 AM
Post by: Ceric on July 13, 2007, 03:59:59 AM
Post by: Sarail on July 13, 2007, 05:52:26 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 13, 2007, 08:26:02 AM
Honestly I think had Nintendo not stuck so close to the Ocarina of Time blueprint with TP it wouldn't have seemed so "samey". When Nintendo got backlash for Wind Waker I think they grossly misinterpreted it to mean "we don't want change ever" (which is also I think what they assume core gamers want). The problem with Wind Waker wasn't that changes were made but rather that the specific changes were controversial. Some people didn't like the new look. That doesn't mean ANY new look is bad just that THAT one wasn't so hot. Same with the big ocean of nothing. That was something I didn't care for but it wasn't because Hyrule was changed it was because it was changed into something boring. An important skill of a game developer when dealing with customer feedback is determining what they're REALLY asking for and what they REALLY like and dislike because often they don't know exactly how they feel or at least don't communicate it properly. Making an incredibly cliche and predictable Zelda like Twilight Princess was probably not the correct response to Wind Waker feedback.
Post by: Mashiro on July 13, 2007, 12:50:17 PM
Should have never sold them in the first place.
Post by: Requiem on July 13, 2007, 01:02:21 PM
Emulator!
Post by: Mashiro on July 13, 2007, 01:11:49 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 13, 2007, 02:35:52 PM
*hugs copies of GS and Lost Age*
Post by: Mashiro on July 13, 2007, 02:38:49 PM
Hopefully I win this auction =)
