Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 07, 2007, 06:01:53 AM
Nintendo should look at how memory cards are treated. They come in their own little cases, but the cases aren't much bigger than the cards themselves because there is no real need to be. Why couldn't DS games follow their example? They are, after all, roughly the same size.
There are really only two reasons why the large cases are an advantage. For one thing, they accomodate a manual. The other reason the large cases are good is to grab the customer's attention and make the library of games look larger and more impressive than it actually is. In either case, Nintendo could just use a cardboard case that would include both a manual and the game and a smaller more portable plastic case. Wouldn't that be the best of all worlds for them? Considering the plastic shortage and all that I think Nintendo should do things that way.
Actually, now that I think about it... isn't this EXACTLY what Nintendo did with the Gameboy? Why did they abandon that with the DS? I thought the Gameboy way was perfect and should be done that way again.
Post by: ShyGuy on July 07, 2007, 06:08:07 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 06:31:31 AM
Post by: nickmitch on July 07, 2007, 08:15:23 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 07, 2007, 11:52:29 AM
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Originally posted by: TVman
... My friend actually throws his away.
...Mother of god...
Post by: nickmitch on July 07, 2007, 11:57:49 AM
Post by: LuigiHann on July 07, 2007, 02:52:23 PM
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 07, 2007, 04:45:47 PM
lololol :]
The best part is Theme Park comes in a massive Euro case, but the Aussie manual is only 25 pages. Pokemon's manual, however, is about 70 pages. I wouldn't have much of a problem with them if the publishers fancied up the spines. White with black text is bloody cheap, boring and PS2-ish.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 07, 2007, 05:11:09 PM
Post by: UncleBob on July 07, 2007, 05:20:43 PM
It's GameCube cases that always ticked me off. Never understood the point of the tiny discs if they came in storage cases the same size as the big discs....
Post by: Mashiro on July 07, 2007, 05:30:16 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
DS Cases don't bother me too much.
It's GameCube cases that always ticked me off. Never understood the point of the tiny discs if they came in storage cases the same size as the big discs....
Yeah, at least for the American packaging. The Japanese games had a nice little box.
Same with the Japanese GBA boxes. The American version was roughly the same size as its GB and GBC predecessors. The Japanese version was a sleeker more rectangular box.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 07, 2007, 05:46:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
What the heck is New Zealand Story Revolution?
Remake of the original arcade/NES game by Taito. You play as a kiwi bird and kill many enemies! It's deep. They added some hopeless touch screen mini-games that you have to try and complete WHILE defeating enemies on the top screen.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 07, 2007, 06:42:31 PM
Post by: Mode7 on July 07, 2007, 07:14:31 PM
The DS has to go neck to neck with the PSP. Average Consumer Joe wouldn't take the DS as serious if it's games came in (perceived) cheap, cardboard boxes. (Read: Nintendo doesn't want the perception that the DS is just another Gameboy.)
"Heck, PSP games come in DVD-like cases... DS games come in them too. Hmmmmmmmm... Decisions."
For the more informed lot, it wouldn't matter, cardboard or plastic.
However, I prefer plastic as it makes for a nicer display piece. Yeah, I'm OCD like that -- my inner-collector at work. I mean, if DVDs and PSP games get the treatment...
Euroland DS cases are thicker to accomodate multiple languages if I'm not mistaken.
North American Gamecube cases came in standard size as it would frustrate the consumers over here in the U.S.A., Canada, and Mexico if they couldn't put their games in the same storage rack as other platform games and DVD movies. Japan, however, seeing that the 3 inch media is physically smaller, "necessitates" smaller packaging (smaller country, space is a premium, etc.) This doesn't carry over to the DS due to it being region free.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 07:51:10 PM
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Originally posted by: MashiroQuote
Originally posted by: UncleBob
DS Cases don't bother me too much.
It's GameCube cases that always ticked me off. Never understood the point of the tiny discs if they came in storage cases the same size as the big discs....
Yeah, at least for the American packaging. The Japanese games had a nice little box.
I wouldn't praise them much, they're frigging annoying since the box art is a paper sleeve wrapped around the plastic box instead of inserted somehow, you have to slide the sleeve off before you can open the box so you get a two part affair you have to juggle when inserting discs and you can't leave them open if you don't want the sleeve to lie around separately and risking something crushing it.
Post by: Mashiro on July 07, 2007, 07:57:53 PM
Post by: 18 Days on July 07, 2007, 08:25:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Mode7
Euroland DS cases are thicker to accomodate multiple languages if I'm not mistaken.
But they don't!
My Sonic Rush case is bloated and huge yet the manual is 36 pages of English, and that's it. As Infernal already said Theme Park is a similar deal.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2007, 03:27:19 AM
Post by: vudu on July 08, 2007, 04:22:44 AM
QuoteYou are so right; wouldn't it be great if someone made a compact case that could hold up to 24 DS games?
Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
Obviously, for true portability when you take your DS on the road with you you really don't want to take these bulky cases along with you.
Post by: Ghisy on July 08, 2007, 09:09:28 AM
Is there really a bunch of stuff inside the Euro boxes??
All my DS games are US versions (except for the Jump Stars games) and there's usually one manual in there and sometimes a flyer or registration card and that's about it.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 09, 2007, 04:04:00 AM
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Originally posted by: TVman
I don't bring my DS cases when I travel. They're fine just sitting in the pouch I bought for my GBA a few years ago. I keep my DS in the same pouch. My friend actually throws his away.
You should tell him to just give them to you instead, or make him aware that people would actually be willing to buy them from him on ebay or something. (just make sure in the auctions he lets them know it doesn't include the actual game, lol)
Post by: Ian Sane on July 09, 2007, 05:52:20 AM
Plastic cases work best if you want to collect games and have them in a nice display on your shelf while still being flexible for playing. Like boxes if having extra packaging bugs you throw it out. I know people who throw out CD cases because all of their CDs are stored in a CD album. Yet no one suggests that CDs or DVDs not come in a case.
Actually this is the first time I've ever heard anyone complain about the DS cases. When they were revealed it seemed everyone was all "finally, no more damn boxes". There's a website where people make labels and buy empty DS cases for their GBA games. Obviously there's a group of people that like them and for those that don't there's nothing stopping you from hucking them out and just having a pile of games.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 09, 2007, 06:31:12 AM
Wasn't there a plastic shortage or something that was hindering DS production a while back? Maybe Nintendo would have had more plastic to make DS systems if it wasn't all being sucked up to make the DS game cases, lol.
Like I said, the plastic cases are good, but why do they need to be so large? Think back to the original gameboy cartridge cases which were only slightly bigger than the cartridges themselves. That's really all the plastic that needs to be used.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 09, 2007, 08:06:10 AM
If you feel bad because they're made from oil instead of hundred-year-old forests, why don't you recycle them? Sell them to people like UncleBob.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 09, 2007, 09:58:06 AM
The case functionally replaces the box and adds extra collectable-friendliness. Ideally it has to be the same size as the box it replaces or else all the existing box problems come back.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 09, 2007, 02:34:23 PM
@Ian Sane: I don't see why it couldn't be both a tiny plastic case, but still be inside a large cardboard box. Wouldn't this be the best of both world's? I actually have most of the cardboard boxes that my SNES, N64, GB, and GB games came in. Even have 1 or 2 NES cardboard boxes still, but most of those were thrown out because I just didn't save them back then.
My point is, if you take good care you can keep a cardboard box in great shape over a long period of time. I don't really have to keep opening or closing them because I keep the games inside the sleeves, cases, or third party storage solutions I have for them. I do keep the manuals in them, and that keeps them in good shape but I very seldom look at the manuals anyway.
Post by: King of Twitch on July 09, 2007, 10:50:54 PM
Post by: mantidor on July 11, 2007, 01:48:10 PM
Since I'm poor and I cannot waste money in fancy cartridge carriers, I carry them all in just one case, unfortunately the little card holder is horribly placed, if I put two carts at the left they don't fit by just a tiny ammount, so they sometimes get in the way of the manual when the case is closed, making it difficult to close tightly, while if you put two carts on the right they end up with a tiny excess of ammount that goes waisted. They could have forseen this and move the damn thing one milimeter to the right and problem solved! the case becomes a 5 card holder.
They could even move it all the way down and it could hold an extra cart, then move the GBA slot to the far right and you get another one! why they didn't think of this!?
