Post by: MysticGohan on July 07, 2007, 02:11:43 AM
Post by: Nemo on July 07, 2007, 03:22:16 AM
Post by: Arbok on July 07, 2007, 04:23:46 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on July 07, 2007, 05:55:19 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 07, 2007, 07:41:19 AM
Post by: Maverick on July 07, 2007, 08:00:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Ugh. I hated the first. I... I... I guess I'll buy the second...
*HEAD EXPLODES*
Post by: nickmitch on July 07, 2007, 08:00:56 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 07, 2007, 09:00:24 AM
I hated having the main character remind me of Robin from Teen Titans the entire time . . . (yeah I know you can turn off the voices but it takes away from the game).
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 09:01:54 AM
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Originally posted by: TVman
How could hate ToS?? If I threw that game in a blender it would come out as pure liquid awesome. Do you hate awesomeness, too?
Obviously Kairon is the gaming equivalent of a masochist.
Post by: ShyGuy on July 07, 2007, 09:24:49 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 07, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
That said, I'd probably buy another if it had the same engine, sure, but I'd hope for more improvements to multiplayer support rather than just tacking it on.
Post by: Chiller on July 07, 2007, 10:27:24 AM
Post by: Crimm on July 07, 2007, 02:33:53 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 07, 2007, 04:31:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Only thing I didn't like about ToS . . . was the american VA's. God why is it so hard to include an option for Japanese VA's?
Probably very hard considering the GC's disc size. =)
Post by: Mashiro on July 07, 2007, 04:33:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal MonkeyQuote
Originally posted by: Mashiro
Only thing I didn't like about ToS . . . was the american VA's. God why is it so hard to include an option for Japanese VA's?
Probably very hard considering the GC's disc size. =)
. . . touche lol.
No excuse if a sequel comes out on Wii though! =P
Post by: Ceric on July 07, 2007, 05:56:33 PM
Post by: Crimm on July 07, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal MonkeyQuote
Originally posted by: Mashiro
Only thing I didn't like about ToS . . . was the american VA's. God why is it so hard to include an option for Japanese VA's?
Probably very hard considering the GC's disc size. =)
2 Disks.
Plenty of space.
Post by: The Traveller on July 07, 2007, 06:45:29 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
Post by: Mashiro on July 07, 2007, 08:06:46 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 07, 2007, 10:01:44 PM
GIVE ME A GOOD RPG I SWEAR I WAS AN RPGAMER BEFORE I WAS A NINTENDO GAMER ARGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! AND STOP TRYING TO BE INTERACTIVE ANIMES!!!!
Post by: Mashiro on July 07, 2007, 10:11:04 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 07, 2007, 10:15:28 PM
Post by: UniversalJuan on July 08, 2007, 02:49:51 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2007, 03:24:39 AM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
You know what RPG really deserves a sequel? Skies of Arcadia.
Naw, SoA was generic and only interesting because the GC had nothing else. Now, a proper sequel to GRANDIA, that'd be something worth talking about.
Post by: Mashiro on July 08, 2007, 08:09:42 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 08, 2007, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 08, 2007, 10:05:43 AM
Post by: Artisto16 on July 08, 2007, 01:22:01 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 08, 2007, 01:57:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Artisto16
I can't wait for another sequal to ToS. I hope that they improve the graphics (overhaul of the overworld's graphics), add new attacks (and maybe some characters), and include EVERY possible RPG cliche' imaginable (although well blended together) in tribute to the 1st game.
You're like me. Except evil.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 08, 2007, 04:47:27 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2007, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on July 09, 2007, 05:18:27 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 09, 2007, 10:27:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Horribly cliche voice acting + horribly cliche story + gameplay that gave me no incentive to master it...
GIVE ME A GOOD RPG I SWEAR I WAS AN RPGAMER BEFORE I WAS A NINTENDO GAMER ARGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! AND STOP TRYING TO BE INTERACTIVE ANIMES!!!!
Oh please, if the game's story bosses were replaced with the hidden bosses, the average player would need levels in the upper 80s to comfortably succeed without relying on cheey item tricks. People would probably complain if the bosses were that tough, that EARLY. Of course your non-learning, Lloyd-centric, non-exploring method of play is too boring to even hear of such secret battles. What kind of "RPG player" are you without bothering to seek out such simple secrets? "Hidden bosses" should've been enticing enough, which of course lead to hidden rewards/treasures, but more importantly, they help you realize how weak your Mithos-busting lvl. 62 Lloyd really is.
Edit: To clarify, SKILL potentially improves the game experience by saving you 5 to 15 levels worth of leveling up required to comfortably beat the next boss in line. That's a significant number of hours of level grinding saved, and increases your upfront challenge since you're battling with somewhat underpowered characters.
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ToS multiplayer is effective for only 2 melee players. The camera unfortunately only follows Player 1, and does not zoom out to show every player. Magick users who sit back and cast have slightly less issues. But the fun is in chaining melee combos on bosses with tons of HP.
If you're wondering, I HAVE been playing recently, setting up for the Team Colosseum Exhibition match.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 09, 2007, 10:34:35 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 09, 2007, 10:41:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Oh please, if the game's story bosses were replaced with the hidden bosses, the average player would need levels in the upper 80s to comfortably succeed without relying on cheey item tricks. People would probably complain if the bosses were that tough, that EARLY. Of course your non-learning, Lloyd-centric, non-exploring method of play is too boring to even hear of such secret battles. What kind of "RPG player" are you without bothering to seek out such simple secrets? "Hidden bosses" should've been enticing enough, which of course lead to hidden rewards/treasures, but more importantly, they help you realize how weak your Mithos-busting lvl. 62 Lloyd really is.
Edit: To clarify, SKILL potentially improves the game experience by saving you 5 to 15 levels worth of leveling up required to comfortably beat the next boss in line. That's a significant number of hours of level grinding saved, and increases your upfront challenge since you're battling with somewhat underpowered characters.
The game did NOTHING to breadcrumb those experiences for me. It's like the difference between Everquest and WoW. I didn't even know those experiences existed. The only one I became aware of, ever, was some big 4-armed skeleton I couldn't beat... and that I had NO INCENTIVE to beat.
You may like it, but you've just described a niche, extremely hardcore way of assessing the game. That's okay... some people like Rogue-likes. Not me.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 09, 2007, 09:12:19 PM
I did try controlling other characters but found their combo potential to be less than Lloyd's so I found myself going back to Lloyd most of the time because the other characters suffered less from being under AI control.
Post by: Artisto16 on July 10, 2007, 08:31:43 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I think the sequel won't use the same characters.
Then it wouldn't be a Tales of Symphonia 2. They would have to name it something else, like Tales of Demonica, Tales of Hysteria, Tales of Tales, or Tales of Something Relevant. A sequal would have to keep it in the same realm or at least use the same characters.
Use Final Fantasy X2 as the example (although many hated that game compared to X).
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 10, 2007, 06:14:27 PM
QuoteSoA was all kinds of AWESOME and NEEDS a sequel NOW...
Originally posted by: KDR_11kQuote
Originally posted by: Mashiro
You know what RPG really deserves a sequel? Skies of Arcadia.
Naw, SoA was generic and only interesting because the GC had nothing else. Now, a proper sequel to GRANDIA, that'd be something worth talking about.
If you mean a sequel to Grandia 1, then yes. If you are refering to II, Xtreme, or III, then Oh God, please no...
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2007, 07:14:15 AM
Athrun: Never played 1, only 2 and I want a proper sequel for 2. With more difficulty please because I beat 2 without seeing the Game Over screen ONCE.
Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 07:51:36 AM
I liked Grandia II but the story plot changed on a dime and was kinda...weird. But I liked it.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2007, 08:25:10 AM
Post by: Artisto16 on July 11, 2007, 08:29:36 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Aristo: What if the main character was the daughter of, say, Lloyd and Collette?
That's fine. She would be in the same world, so that consistency would still be there.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on July 12, 2007, 04:49:50 PM
Post by: capamerica on July 19, 2007, 09:06:22 PM
hehe, I actually made this back in early 2004. =P
Originally for the GameCube, But I updated it for the Wii.
Post by: Kairon on July 19, 2007, 09:08:29 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 19, 2007, 11:01:57 PM
Tales of Symphonia: Ratatosuku no Kishi
Or for those who don't read Moon language, Knights of Ratatosk...
Post by: KDR_11k on July 19, 2007, 11:55:30 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 12:14:32 AM
(Edit: IGN says the game takes place 2 years after, so I guess not!)
Post by: Artimus on July 20, 2007, 02:19:21 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 20, 2007, 02:53:17 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 20, 2007, 03:19:06 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 03:53:38 AM
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2007, 04:04:29 AM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
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hehe, I actually made this back in early 2004. =P
Originally for the GameCube, But I updated it for the Wii.
Tales of Symphonia 2: Secret Desires ?
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 04:28:03 AM
Nice character designs!
Post by: Mashiro on July 20, 2007, 04:40:03 AM
Edit: Yep, I thought I recognized that hair style!
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2007, 04:59:46 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 20, 2007, 05:01:05 AM
Post by: MysticGohan on July 20, 2007, 05:16:01 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 05:26:31 AM
More info from GAF: "According to Famitsu...you'll be able to capture monsters and have them fight in your party."
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 20, 2007, 05:51:47 AM
QuoteTales of Rebirth was released on PS2 a long time ago :/
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
PS2 gets the port, PSP gets the new game...
and Tales of Innocence PHAILS because the male character is Trunks clone
Post by: couchmonkey on July 20, 2007, 05:52:09 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 06:07:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Tales of Rebirth was released on PS2 a long time ago :/
Oh, really? Then both PS2 and PSP get ports... =3
Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 20, 2007, 07:34:45 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 08:51:11 AM
There's no overworld in the game, it seems...(Which, to be honest, really isn't that much of a loss considering how crappy it was in the original...)
Post by: Pittbboi on July 20, 2007, 09:01:03 AM
But RPG loving could NEVER be a bad thing.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 09:50:36 AM
Oh yes, the old Symphonia characters are also confirmed to "not only appear, but also provide assistance to the main characters..." Take that how you wish...
Post by: KDR_11k on July 20, 2007, 10:12:05 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 10:21:29 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 20, 2007, 10:32:51 AM
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2007, 11:12:10 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 11:31:24 AM
Yet another tasty screen...
Post by: Kairon on July 20, 2007, 11:33:41 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 11:56:32 AM
~ Main characters' names are Emil and Malta
~ Story takes place three years after Symphonia (not two, like I posted earlier...)
~ The game will feature Wii-mote direct controls, allowing players to move around by pointing at sections of the map.
~ While not strictly Wii related, the game will also include the ability to capture and breed monsters for use as allies in battle.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 20, 2007, 12:34:58 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
ToS2 fails by rehashing old locations just like Zelda: Toilet Princess.
It should work in this game since the two worlds have been recombined, and so things should be rearranged/disrupted quite a bit.
Post by: MysticGohan on July 20, 2007, 12:55:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I think it'd be pretty pointless to do a sequel to Symphonia based only two years in the future if the old characters weren't going to show up somewhere along the line...As for Kratos, he's probably gone for good...
More info from GAF: "According to Famitsu...you'll be able to capture monsters and have them fight in your party."
Ah Bill you are forgetting the most important thing that escape even the most advanced of math users, only known to Japan... The ingenious use of Plotkai!
It's still possible that Kratos could show up.
Plus it helps that he's not dead :p
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2007, 02:01:15 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 20, 2007, 02:19:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
So can I finally see what is behind the door in the minds.
Never hurd of GAmefaks?
Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 21, 2007, 02:33:33 AM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on July 22, 2007, 07:22:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Screens!
There's no overworld in the game, it seems...(Which, to be honest, really isn't that much of a loss considering how crappy it was in the original...)
Thank you
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 24, 2007, 04:45:30 PM
