Post by: EasyCure on July 02, 2007, 12:14:59 PM
As much as I don't want one of these or fall into the fad, I have to admit its pretty cool
and very easy to use. Typing takes getting used to cuz of screen sensitivity but I'm not
see if id want to use a stylus on this screen to avoid scratching.
The only way I'd get one of these is if I had money to burn
I'll wait for the iPhone 3 or something
Post by: ShyGuy on July 02, 2007, 04:39:33 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 02, 2007, 05:17:22 PM
Post by: EasyCure on July 03, 2007, 04:52:48 AM
i was impressed it worked as well as it did. i mean i didnt expect it to be that bad at all, its just.. i duno the whole ipod fad is annoying and seeing people waiting online for weeks for the iphone that didnt know much about it was also irritating. people waited online for days that didnt even know about service plans or that you HAVE to get the phone activated with a two year contract or else you cant use the ipod features... yes thats right, without activation the thing wont work, even as an ipod.. from what i hear alot of people (in my area atleast) wasted their time online because they planned on buying it for its touchscreen ipod features and not its phone..
i mean i did my research, i know enough about it to know i dont want one until its vastly improved, but since i was able to play with one i'll right up a mini review i suppose. here goes:
Size:
i've read alot of dumb comments about the size... lots of people thought the thing was going to be a brick and would be uncomfortable in your pocket. some comments i read even had people insisting it was going to be bigger than the sidekick II when in actuallity its smaller than the sidekick III. Basically its about the size of your standard (30gb) ipod (havent yet held an 80gb, they seem a little thicker) and is pretty comfortable to hold, and pretty ligh wieght, not heavy at all.
Touch Screen:
With my experience with it, im not sure how i feel about the touchscreen controls. at first they felt very responsive and of course naturally intuitive but other times i couldnt get certain features to work properly. for instance when typing a small keyboard pops up in standard format but the buttons seemed rather tiny and i felt somewhat intimidated to even try to type. I'd say I have average sized hands for a guy in his 20's, not too big and not too small, but i felt like my thumbs were huge in comparison to the keys.
i was surprised that just the slightest touch was very responsive in typing and it felt pretty easy to use once i dove into it. i didnt use the tips of my thumb like i do when texting on a phone, i found that if i did i'd mispell things more often because i was putting more pressure on a wider area. using the underside of my thumb worked fine. Still trying to type fast was a pain because its so easy to hit the wrong key but im sure once you're used to it it'll work out for the best.
My biggest complaint about it is this: You'd think that after typing out a whole word or sentance and you notice a typo that you'd be able to touch the screen to move the highlight bar to the middle of a word to get rid of the one wrong letter or so, but you can't. if you touch the front of the word the highlighter will jump back to the beginning, if you touch the end it'll jump back to the end of the word, thats it. This made web browsing a bit of a pain because if you typed in something like "Hooogle.cam" by mistake you'd have to backspace the whole word and retype it from scratch. Not very conveniant. Maybe there was an onscreen button i missed to move your highlighter back and forth but i doubt it becuase I handled the thing for awhile.
Web Browsing
I'll get my biggest complaint right off the bat: some pages seem to take too long to load. To be honest my experience with handheld browsers is limited. That is to say I've only ever handled small time browser like the sidekick and such. The ads are right about the iPhone; it doesn't use a "watered down" version of the internet, its just the internet. Maybe thats the difference since theres nothing taken off the pages like when browsing certain things on other phones. Usually its the more image heavy sites that suffer but thats understandable. Loading isnt too bad but when you're on a site that doesn't load up completely and start navigating, it will start to lag.
On the plus side its all very intuitive. Open up the Safari browser from the main screen and you're asked to input a web address. Touch the typing feild and the keyboard pops up with a conveniant new key thats absent from the keyboard when you're text messaging or writing a memo: it's a .COM key, how nice. Once on your desired site you'd do everything like you'd think you would..
Scrolling is done by sliding your fingers around the screen like a mouse, you can scroll in any direction and its very responsive, just try not to hit a link when choosing where on the screen to start sliding. If you're like me you might have trouble seeing all the text cuz its rather tiny for its screen, but its not like the Wii where the resolution makes everything look awkward. Its more like looking at your monitor from a few feet away. Now my eyes aren't bad, I don't need glasses, but it was much easier to just zoom in to read everything without having to hold the phone up to my eyes like an old man. My girlfriend who was with me and also playing with one said she didnt have to zoom in, so if your eyes are in supurb condition you won't always have to zoom. Also zooming in works like you'd think, all i did was tap the screen and went in for a closer look, but... it didnt always work. My first try was easy, but there were many times after it where I was under the impression you had to double tab.. sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.. but to be honest, im not sure exactly how you do it because non of the Apple Associates came by to lend a hand, I just kinda figured it out on my own. Maybe I wasn't doing it right so I won't blame that on the phone.
By the way, using the browser seemed much easier when the iPhone was held sideways (lengthewise, as if you're holding a ds) because you see more of the page your looking at and are in more of a ready position to type when you need to. Plus having both thumbs readily available to scroll in any direction is a plus. The Accelerometer seemed a bit tricky to use for some people.. they would tilt it and nothing happened. I had no problem with it the first time I turned it sideways or back to its upright "iPod" position. When I noticed even my girlfriend having trouble I played around with different positions to find out this: Most people hold their iPods straight up when looking at it, slightly tilted back. When they held it sideways they held in flat, so the screen was basically straight up. Thats when it didnt work for them.
When I did it the first time, I too was holding it upwards in my right hand, slightly tilted back, but i turned it straigh sideways at a 90 degree angle so the screen faced me for a split second before tilting it back that way, to lay it flat (screen up). I tried doing what everyone else was doing and thats when I couldnt get the accelerometer working either. I'll use WarioWare position names to make it easy to relate to: Picure someone holding the iPhone like a wiimote, with the face of the wiimote representing the screen. If you held the wiimote in the umbrella position and then tried turning it to the Handlebar position in one somoth motion; That won't work. Instead you'd want to go from an Umbrella to a Chaeuffer position to get the screen image to flip, from there you can lean it back like the Handlebar if you like. Make sense? I hope so. Moving on..
Video/Image Quality:
First video I checked out was the Dramatic Chipmunk on Youtube (which by the way, has a conveniant link of its own on the iPhones main menu screen). Loaded up pretty quick and the quality was just as good/bad as it is on youtube so thats not really good to review. Luckily it did come preloaded with video clips to check out. They had clips of movies like School of Rock and a musiv video for the Frey on there, and they all seemed crystal clear and easy on the eyes. Switching screen modes from upright to sideways (or widescreen if you want to call it that) didnt show any noticible changes to the quality either.
I didn't know the iPhone had a camera until I played with it. I'm not surprised, as it was only a matter of time before they released an iPod with a camera, and making it a camera phone makes sense since every phone is a camera now. The quality was the best I've seen on any cameraphone, though it lacks flash. If this affects picture taking in dimmer places is unkown to me because the apple store is so bright so testing that out wasn't possible.
Sound:
Can't really say much abou adio quality because I didn't have headphones with me to plug in. Some of the iPhones were equipped with them but the only available one was previously used by a big sweaty guy.. I didnt want his sweat on me. I did however make a phone call to my gf whom I asked to walk around the store, quality seemed good. My only irk was the form of the phone, I'm used to flip-top phones and holding them slightly bent so that the reciever is closer to my mouth (I'm usually a soft speaker and also fairly private so I don't want to speak too loudly , so putting it closer works for me).
Random Stuff:
It's about time I wrap this up, its gone on long enough. I'll mention here a few things i might have missed. Do note that my time with the iPhone was limited, played with it for maybe a half hour and since i didnt get any assistance with it, some of these issues might not really be issues at all once you know how to use everything to its fullest.
1. When typing, you cant switch from lower case to upper case. your first letter at the start of typing, or the first letter after a period is always uppercase though.
2. The browser is capable of bookmarking if anyone had a concern about it
3. when inputting text in certain fields (say logging into something and having to type your username/email and password) the keyboard operations change a bit. take the email/password example; you touch the input field to have it zoom in and bring up the keyboard. Above the keyboard is a "previous" and "next" button that basically works like the tab key, so you can switch feilds without having to click "done" and go back to the page and have to re-tap the second input feild. Makes it easier.
4. There were problems doing the input mentioned above. If the page wasnt fully loaded some errors would occur. when you tap the input field it might not display right so you'd have no idea what you were typing. Sometimes the typing would lag as well.
5. when scrolling thru websites (while zoomed in), sometimes you'd scroll too fast and a part of the page would be missing. It's a wierd checkerboard design thats like a place holder for the parts of the page that are off screen.. i dunno, thats the best i could explain it.
6. iPod functions are pretty easy. you have your normal search options like Artist, and Album, etc. Also when going down the list theres an alphabet on the side where you can tap a letter and jump to the album/artist of that letter. I've seen this feature on other mp3 players (Creative Zen players) but not ipod.
7. Newest feature to iPod browsing is by album covers. I wasnt sure how to do this right away as there is no button for it, turns out all you do is hold the iPhone sideways and you can scroll left/right thru covers like a jukebox.
8. You'd think going back to the main menu be something you control via the touch screen but its not. Took me a few minutes to realize it wasnt. The small button below the touchscreen, with a square on it, is what takes you back. i thought that was power button.
Totally not worth it unless you need the status symbol or need an all in one device. I'd rather wait till they come up with something with a bigger hard drive (4/8 gb? please..) and offer other networks (most of everyone i know is on tmobile so its convenient to stick with it) and has better service plans (cheapest plan: $60 for 450 daytime min, 5000 night and weekend, and 200 text messages.. the iPod crowd of younger kids will text way more than that. for the same price i get 15000 minutes and unlimited text) and of course better battery life.. the battery times that apple has on their site seem like a good thing but i know if i had this all-in-one device i'd drain that battery so fast...
Post by: KDR_11k on July 03, 2007, 05:47:40 AM
Post by: UncleBob on July 03, 2007, 12:50:14 PM
Post by: EasyCure on July 03, 2007, 04:29:24 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
About $400-$500+.
Post by: Shecky on July 04, 2007, 02:50:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
I read that for internet it's terrible. I'm not hating on it, I'd love it if someone bought one for me a gift, but you just can't justify the price when you consider an 80GB iPod video costs less than half of what an 8GB iPhone costs.
Well they're using pretty dated cell phone technology for data transfers. AT&T (or is that at&t?) has even artificially doubled the data rate you can get over that tech for the launch of the iPhone. By their own admission it would take minutes to load yahoo.com at current rates. So basically if your not at a 802.11 hotspot then web browsing will be painful.
Since at&t has faster options available to larger areas... my guess is that the iPhone is designed the way it is to increase profit and provide a nice upgrade path for Apple in the future.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 04, 2007, 02:56:31 AM
Post by: ThePerm on July 08, 2007, 08:58:08 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 08, 2007, 08:59:27 AM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
About $400-$500.
Don't you also have to buy a 2 year service plan or something that costs over a thousand dollars? I could be wrong about that.
Post by: UncleBob on July 08, 2007, 09:41:59 AM
Post by: nickmitch on July 08, 2007, 12:38:57 PM
Post by: UncleBob on July 08, 2007, 12:40:38 PM
Post by: EasyCure on July 08, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Well, you have to purchase the phone ($499 or $599) and the two year contract that's going to run a minimum of $59.99/month ($1439.76 + tax for two years). But, since in the US at least, you generally need a plan to use a cell phone, it's not really fair to inclue the full cost of the plan when compairing phones.
I think in this case it is fair to include because like i wrote above in my horrible review of it: you can't just buy it for its iPod features, it has to be activated in order to get those working. I know many people who planned on buying one just to have a touchscreen iPod and then they were surprised to find out they had to get the service plan.
also i read on the wii news channel that in order to have your battery replaced you have to send your phone in to apple and it'll run you about $80 for it. Also you'd be without your phone for about three days but you can rent another iPhone for $29.99.. Though i don't remember if that was a one time fee or per day
Post by: UncleBob on July 08, 2007, 05:42:25 PM
As for getting the iPhone to not use the phone features... well... I can't really comment on how crazy that sounds.
Post by: Mashiro on July 08, 2007, 05:50:35 PM
Saved some money and it works great =).
iPhone is a tad more complicated when opened (or so I heard) so I'm not sure if that option will be available for iPhone in the future, for those who don't wanna send it to Apple that is.
Also, the apple care for iPhone extends coverage by another year I believe and covers battery life for $69.99.
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2010, 02:23:32 AM
Hey, my cousin just got an iPhone, what can you people recommend for good free apps?
Post by: EasyCure on March 27, 2010, 02:00:26 PM
As for apps, i read a quick news blurb about an app that lets you "make calls not using your att minutes" thats a "game changer"...
but i've alreay seen tons of similar apps for the iphone (and my android phone) that do the same thing so i don't know exactly why its a "game changer"..
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2010, 02:19:38 PM
Post by: EasyCure on March 27, 2010, 02:31:26 PM
Vudu, please report to the General Chat.
Vudu, to the General Chat please.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2010, 02:44:17 PM
I'm only good at finding things that I posted, since I posted them.
Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29800.0
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28566.0
Post by: EasyCure on March 27, 2010, 03:02:01 PM
Good Job Mop it up
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2010, 06:25:12 PM
Post by: D_Average on March 27, 2010, 07:03:20 PM
It was pretty crazy, all within one month, my Imac, 5th gen ipod, and Iphone all broke down in some way. Go Apple!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2010, 07:50:38 PM
Feed the need to keep upgrading and make money hand over fist.
Post by: nickmitch on March 27, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
Ancient bump!
Hey, my cousin just got an iPhone, what can you people recommend for good free apps?
Words with Friends.
Post by: ThePerm on March 27, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Post by: EasyCure on March 28, 2010, 01:04:11 AM
nickmitch!!
nickmitch is an app?
Also, i suddenly remembered a cool app i've seen on the iphone (that i've unfortunately haven't seen on the android service) called "knocking" (i think). My cousin showed it to me on his iphone and it looked pretty fun...
what it is, is sort of video IM type service. You create some sort of user ID and share it with friends, and you're able to knock at their door so to speak and send them a live video feed from your iphone (and vice versa). When he showed me, he asked his friend to "knock" him and she did;
the iphone gets a notification (with a door knocking noise too, which didn't seem to go away until he accepted the Knock...) then we see his lady friend flip us the bird, turn the phone around as she walks to her kitchen where she had written on a small magnetic whiteboard "jeff is good at sucking cox" and we LOL'd.
It seemed cool until i realized:
A. there's no sound during the video streaming.
B. the video quality itself is pretty bad (when it comes to motion)
C. it seemed you need to make some sort of account (by creating the userID) in order to populate a buddy list when you could.. you know.. just take a video with your iphones camera and email/text it to a friend you already had saved in your phonebook.
i mean seriously, why would you need live viideo for if you can't even do a video chat session? I'm not sure of the iphones supposedly limited multi-tasking capabilities; if it'd let you make a phone call, then open up the app and start a video chat with your friend.. OH WAIT! there's no camera on the front of the phone so that would'nt work anyway, unless it was one way video chat NEVERMIND.
Useless app.
Post by: Stogi on March 28, 2010, 06:01:44 AM
Anyway, I really like the Gun app. That one just makes my happy everytime someone busts it out.
Also, is there an app that allows you to time a txt message? There are so many times that I wish I could type out a txt message and time it to send it later. There's so many uses for it that I can't imagine that it hasn't been made. It'd also be great if you could txt yourself and time that txt. So if you really needed to get out of a situation, you could type up a message in the bathroom or something then have that txt come in 10 minutes later while your back and then use whatever you typed to GTFO of that place.
If there's not such a thing, then I'm going to make it.
Post by: EasyCure on March 28, 2010, 09:59:19 AM
^^^What a pointless post.
Anyway, I really like the Gun app. That one just makes my happy everytime someone busts it out.
Also, is there an app that allows you to time a txt message? There are so many times that I wish I could type out a txt message and time it to send it later. There's so many uses for it that I can't imagine that it hasn't been made. It'd also be great if you could txt yourself and time that txt. So if you really needed to get out of a situation, you could type up a message in the bathroom or something then have that txt come in 10 minutes later while your back and then use whatever you typed to GTFO of that place.
If there's not such a thing, then I'm going to make it.
pointing out shitty apps isn't useless :P There's TONS of apps out there but I'd say more than half are utterly useless/pointless and the rest are divided between a small percentage of games or copy cat apps.
As for your texting application; I'm unsure about the iphone but I've seen numerous messaging apps on the Android Market that offer such a feature. Because those apps tend to be much better than the OS's standard messaging app, they're highly rated on the service. For that same reason, I believe that apple would block such apps from it's service. From every account I've read, apple has (at least recently) removed any app it feels enhances or completely outperform native iphone apps.
Post by: Stogi on March 28, 2010, 05:21:41 PM
Post by: EasyCure on March 28, 2010, 05:53:21 PM
now THAT was a pointless post
Post by: Stogi on March 28, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 29, 2010, 01:33:02 AM
pointing out shitty apps isn't useless :P: There's TONS of apps out there but I'd say more than half are utterly useless/pointless and the rest are divided between a small percentage of games or copy cat apps.
More than half is a ridiculously generous estimate. There are 150,000 apps on the store, and at least 147,000 of them are garbage, and I say that as someone who loves his iPhone and would argue that there is a lot of great stuff on the App Store. The trick is finding it among all the crap.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2010, 05:42:38 PM
I guess that means that iPad may also be making the jump to the other 3G networks too.
Post by: Stogi on March 30, 2010, 05:50:21 PM
Get ready...
Live Police Scanner app! Listen to what the police are doing at all times! Use the code index to find out what they are talking about! It's perfect!
Throwing a party and want to make sure it doesn't get busted -- listen to the scanner every now and then.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 31, 2010, 09:42:44 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
The radio said Verizon & Sprint, but that might have been an assumption on their part since Sprint and Verizon have compatible 3G networks and both work on very similar standards (CDMA?).
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 31, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2010, 03:59:01 PM
But alot of iPhone users should be happy to know that for pretty much exactly what they are paying now, they can get their iPhone on a more reliable 3G/4G network with less dropped calls.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 31, 2010, 05:06:59 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2010, 05:35:17 PM
If they are spouting it on the radio then it must be a pretty solid or at the very least widespread and all but confirmed since mainstream is usually the last to hear about anything and only talk about it once it's been somewhat confirmed.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 31, 2010, 09:16:35 PM
[source (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/29/next-iphone-double-resolution-display-front-camera-multi-tasking/)]
Post by: D_Average on April 01, 2010, 01:51:20 AM
Post by: Plugabugz on April 01, 2010, 08:56:31 AM
I'm not anti-iphone but i am anti-lockin which Apple are fond of. I don't like iTunes that much and it's usually tied to a network for 18/24 months on an expensive contract - £35+/month is far too high - and doesn't provide enough minutes/allowances.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 02, 2010, 03:47:25 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 02, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
I'm off to go look it up.
I'll post about it in the Verizon Phones thread.
Post by: nickmitch on April 03, 2010, 02:24:37 AM
nickmitch!!
Yes, nickmitch is my username on Words with Friends.
Post by: nickmitch on April 19, 2010, 12:18:42 PM
Post by: RABicle on April 19, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 19, 2010, 05:51:40 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 19, 2010, 06:01:06 PM
Post by: D_Average on April 19, 2010, 06:51:25 PM
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 19, 2010, 07:05:47 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 19, 2010, 07:23:18 PM
I think it's some sort of publicity stunt though.
Wasn't the story something about a guy getting drunk and leaving it at a bar or something like that?
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 19, 2010, 07:30:54 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 19, 2010, 08:03:31 PM
Post by: D_Average on April 19, 2010, 10:49:43 PM
I'm sure moral was low at Engadget today. Pity.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 19, 2010, 11:01:01 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 20, 2010, 10:58:32 AM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 20, 2010, 04:40:40 PM
Post by: nickmitch on April 20, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
I'm sure iPhone HDS or 4GS will basically be the equivalent.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 21, 2010, 12:02:24 AM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 21, 2010, 12:14:11 AM
EDIT: To say that this is barely better than last year's model is stupid. The 3GS was barely better than the 3G, at least in practical terms (although it's going to seem a lot better in comparison when its beefier processor and double the RAM can do multitasking and the 3G can't); the 3G was a huge improvement over the original. Apple seems to stagger the big releases, doing major updates every couple years, probably having something to do with the fact that all of their customers are on two year contracts.
EDIT 2: I'm finding this increasingly funny; it's almost like Apple's just trolling everyone. They hype up the iPad, essentially a big iPhone, and now the new iPhone is, in several ways, a small iPad.
Post by: D_Average on April 21, 2010, 01:09:28 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2010, 05:04:39 AM
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One concerned Apple customer wrote to Steve Jobs:
Steve,
I was converted to Apple products with the announcement of the iPhone 3G. (My friends have been trying to convince me for years.) Since then I’ve purchased 4 iPhones, 2 computers, several routers, and miscellaneous other items. Unfortunately, I’m really starting to have a philosophical issue with your company. It appears that more and more Apple is determining for it’s consumers what content they should be able to receive. For instance, the blocking of Mark Fiore’s comic app (due to being political satire) or blocking of what Apple considers to be porn.
I’m all for keeping porn out of kids hands. Heck – I’m all for ensuring that I don’t have to see it unless I want to. But… that’s what parental controls are for. Put these types of apps into categories and allow them to be blocked by their parents should they want to.
Apple’s role isn’t moral police – Apple’s role is to design and produce really cool gadgets that do what the consumer wants them to do.
Thanks for listening
-Matthew
Steve Jobs replied:
Fiore’s app will be in the store shortly. That was a mistake. However, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and Android phone.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/steve-jobs-google-android-iphone-porn,news-6522.html (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/steve-jobs-google-android-iphone-porn,news-6522.html)
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04/20/steve-jobs-android-iphone-porn (http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04/20/steve-jobs-android-iphone-porn)
Post by: D_Average on April 21, 2010, 11:10:54 AM
Post by: nickmitch on April 21, 2010, 09:39:35 PM
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 21, 2010, 11:05:26 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 21, 2010, 11:45:37 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 22, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2010, 03:39:39 AM
Post by: nickmitch on April 26, 2010, 06:36:19 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2010, 06:51:15 PM
Gizmodo Editor get all his crap taken over iPhone leak. Details (http://gizmodo.com/5524843/).
I guess that removes all doubt about whether it was real, fake or staged.
Post by: nickmitch on April 26, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2010, 07:07:55 PM
Aand what I mean is Apple may have already taken action before Gizmodo replied or even before reaching out to contact Gizmodo in the first place.
Post by: nickmitch on April 26, 2010, 07:21:47 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2010, 07:26:57 PM
"Gizmodo Editor arrested on charges of child pornography!"
Post by: D_Average on April 26, 2010, 07:51:19 PM
Post by: nickmitch on April 26, 2010, 07:59:22 PM
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 26, 2010, 08:50:49 PM
I'd be surprised if Apple takes them all the way to court.
Why? Gizmodo knowingly bought stolen merchandise. That is a crime. Someone at Gizmodo could be arrested and the company could be sued, and Apple would be victorious in both because Gizmodo was stupid enough to brag about it (this is like a criminal taping their crime and posting it to YouTube). At the very least I expect Gizmodo to pay millions of dollars to Apple.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 26, 2010, 08:56:16 PM
I'm no lawyer, but I don't see any grounds for a search and seizure warrant. Apple just bought a judge.
Post by: D_Average on April 26, 2010, 09:47:54 PM
Gizmodo had no evidence that the item was stolen and returned the stolen item when requested to do so. They had no license agreements or contracts with Apple preventing them from releasing the information they found.
I'm no lawyer, but I don't see any grounds for a search and seizure warrant. Apple just bought a judge.
THIS
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 26, 2010, 10:16:08 PM
Gizmodo had no evidence that the item was stolen and returned the stolen item when requested to do so. They had no license agreements or contracts with Apple preventing them from releasing the information they found.
I'm no lawyer, but I don't see any grounds for a search and seizure warrant. Apple just bought a judge.
Gizmodo posted in their original article that they bought it from someone who "found" it in a bathroom. Considering that no Apple tester would have the legal authority to sell it, it's pretty clear to me that even a lawyer who barely passed the bar would be able to get a warrant when Gizmodo admitted the incident on their site. Seems pretty open and shut to me. Apple MAY be lenient though since Gizmodo has cooperated with them and the police, but Gizmodo clearly is in the wrong and could be screwed if Apple wants to use their legal rights.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2010, 12:17:17 AM
Bull.
Post by: Arbok on April 27, 2010, 01:52:48 AM
So if I found a phone in a public restroom and took pictures of it and posted it on my employers blog, then the original owners contacted me and asked for their phone back and I said yes, several days later a judge could issue a search warrant to seize my personal computers?
Bull.
Living in CA and in the same complex as a sheriff's office, you are missing the key fact that it was noted as being lost and is worth more than $100, which means that the following law applies:
"If the true owner is not known and the [lost] item is worth more than $100, then the finder has a duty to turn it over to the local police department within a reasonable time. Id. § 2080.1. The owner then has 90 days to claim the property. Id. § 2080.2. If the true owner fails to do so and the property is worth more than $250, then the police publish a notice, and 7 days after that ownership of the property vests in the person who found it, with certain exceptions."
Clearly the finder did not do the following, although I would assume the law would be more interested in the original person who found it rather than the one who bought it (the aspect that they knew it was lost was a dumb move on their part to publicly tout that fact).
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2010, 02:05:13 AM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 27, 2010, 09:34:20 AM
Post by: nickmitch on April 27, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
Post by: Arbok on April 27, 2010, 12:45:31 PM
Total of parts and estimated labor.
Not to mention the person turned around and sold it for $5,000... that leaves little doubt that not only was it worth over $100, but that the person who found it was aware of that fact as well.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 27, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2011, 04:14:16 PM
http://www.betanews.com/article/ATT-sued-over-iPhone-data-overbilling/1296585365 (http://www.betanews.com/article/ATT-sued-over-iPhone-data-overbilling/1296585365)
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A California man has sued AT&T for over billing him on data charges for his iPhone, a move that could raise new questions on the carrier's billing practices. Patrick Hendricks claims that the carrier was charging him for usage even when he wasn't using any.
A test iPhone account found that even with all apps closed, push and location services disabled, and the device unused, AT&T billed the account for over 2,292KB of usage over a period of ten days. "This is like the rigged gas pump charging you when you never even pulled your car into the station," Hendricks' suit continues.
It might not affect you, but if this case is legit, it could affect AT&T in a big way.
Post by: nickmitch on February 01, 2011, 07:42:30 PM
