Post by: Kairon on June 23, 2007, 10:29:41 AM
Does anyone else think that a 2D-playing platformer would be a great idea on the Wii? It could, of course, do some things new to help give it shiny-ness, but it should also be relatively easy and cheap to develop, be accessible to a wide audience of both hardcore traditional and non-gaming casuals (just as NSMB on the DS is), and be a great fit for the Wii.
Also, 2D is not dead. Give it 3D graphics if you like, or give it 2D sprites, but a 2D platformer, with charm and straightforward fun, would be welcome, wouldn't ya think? (also, maybe budget priced!)
Post by: LuigiHann on June 23, 2007, 10:55:23 AM
Post by: Kairon on June 23, 2007, 11:06:53 AM
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Post by: Rhoq on June 23, 2007, 12:25:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I want New Super Mario Bros.
A Wii-exclusive sequel to NSMB would be awesome.
Post by: IceCold on June 23, 2007, 12:29:57 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on June 23, 2007, 12:42:48 PM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 23, 2007, 12:43:35 PM
Nintendo should label is"Super Mario Bros. 4", rather than "New Super Mario Bros. 2". I say the New franchise should stay on the DS, but the original line should stay on consoles, and it is long overdue for a sequel....
Post by: Requiem on June 23, 2007, 12:59:16 PM
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Post by: Luigi Dude on June 23, 2007, 09:35:22 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
It's a damn, crying shame that Jungle Beat sold so little..
Actually it sold pretty good. The last time I saw any sales data it was over 250,000 copies here in North America and somewhere over 160,000 copies in Japan. I have no idea about Europe but even with America and Japan it sold over 400,000 so it's total wordwide would be something higher. This means it's final sales are somewhere between 400,000 - 600,000 worldwide which would make Donkey Kong Jungle Beat one of the best selling 2d games from last gen. Actually I think it was the 4th best selling 2d home console game behind only Smash Bros Melee, Paper Mario: TTYD and the first Viewtiful Joe.
So I'm sure Nintendo was quite happy with Jungle Beats total sales but since Tokyo EAD is busy with Mario Galaxy right now, we have to wait a while before any sequel comes out.
Post by: SixthAngel on June 23, 2007, 09:41:57 PM
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 24, 2007, 07:05:41 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
I'm not sure if Loco Roco is really considered a platformer but a similar game where you can twist the environment would work for the wii. You could make it Mario but let you twist the world around with the remote as you jump through the level.
I read in a interview somewhere that the LocoRoco hates the motion sensing in Wii-remote and SIXAXIS, he said if he makes LocoRoco on PS3 it would use the triggers. When I read that I was shocked since loco would be the single most easiest game to implement motion sensing.
Post by: Kairon on June 24, 2007, 08:28:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Luigi DudeQuote
Originally posted by: IceCold
So I'm sure Nintendo was quite happy with Jungle Beats total sales but since Tokyo EAD is busy with Mario Galaxy right now, we have to wait a while before any sequel comes out.
Give it to NST!!! Let them CASUALIZE IT!!! It's already casual to begin with... GIVE IT TO NST!!! *droolz*
Post by: Nintendawg on June 24, 2007, 10:13:29 AM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 24, 2007, 01:15:15 PM
1.) 2D games are already well covered on the DS. Nintendo may profit more by pumping out 3D games on the Wii instead of 2D
2.) 2D games are very well covered in 80s to mid-90s virtual console games.
3.) Motion sensing is not well precedented in 2D games and no one knows how well it could work out.
3 Reasons Nintendo Should spend resources on 2D Wii Games:
1.) 2D games are cheaper than 3D games.
2.) 2D games appeal nostalgically to Nintendo fanbois who grew up in the 80s to mid-90s.
3.) Motion sensing is not well precedented in 2D games, but Nintendo is well known for breaking new ground in video gaming innovations.
Post by: Kairon on June 24, 2007, 01:17:33 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 24, 2007, 02:04:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat 2
Gotta wait for Mario Galaxy to be released first...
Post by: IceCold on June 24, 2007, 04:56:23 PM
QuoteOh, hell no..
Give it to NST!!! Let them CASUALIZE IT!!! It's already casual to begin with... GIVE IT TO NST!!! *droolz*
Post by: LuigiHann on June 24, 2007, 06:16:51 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
LuigiHann: Are you sure about those figures?
What figures? O_o
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 24, 2007, 06:20:25 PM
Post by: IceCold on June 24, 2007, 06:24:48 PM
Post by: the1st_fret on June 25, 2007, 09:45:28 AM
Post by: Luigi Dude on June 25, 2007, 12:19:57 PM
QuoteFixed it for you
Originally posted by: IceCold
Luigi Dude: Are you sure about those figures? I remember the first month it was released in North America (March I believe) it only sold 30,000. This may have been one of the versions only, though (with or without the bongos). I haven't kept tabs after that, but if the numbers are right, it's great news.
You see, this is why most people think Jungle Beat did bad, and a good amount of it is Matt from IGN's fault. He posted the NPD numbers for the game sold WITH the Bongo's, which was only somewhere in the 30,000's and said that was the total. He then went on to talk about how much of a bomb it was because of this and labeled it a failure right away which is why a lot of people think the game did horrible in sales.
Only poor Matt didn't realize that the NPD counted the game sold with the Bongo's and without the Bongo's as too different versions and gave them two separate numbers. The game WITHOUT the Bongo's sold somewhere in the 20,000 and so the combined numbers where actually in the 60,000's for it's first month. But like I said originally the game ended up have great legs and sold an average of in the 30,000's for the rest of 2005.
Lets see if I can get a history lesson going on here using the old Gamecube sales topic
Jungle Beat First Month
Total Sales combined are 62,873.
Jungle Beat Second and Third Month Sales
Sales of the game WITH Bongo's for second month are 38,379
Sales of the game WITH Bongo's for third month are 23,093
BlackNMild2k1 post NPD LTD number for all Gamecube Games as of June 2005
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat all versions combined is at 177,201
NPD LTD numbers as of August 2005
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat all versions combined is at 207,615
NPD LTD numbers as of September 2005
Jungle Beat all versions is at 216,415
Mario post top selling Gamecube titles of 2005 numbers
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat all versions combined sold 261,438 total copies here in North America in 2005
And there you have it, absolute proof that Jungle Beat was not a failure but actually did quite well.
Post by: Louieturkey on June 25, 2007, 01:39:24 PM
Post by: IceCold on June 25, 2007, 05:55:56 PM
QuoteThanks for the research! I guess the game had legs, and that price drop to $20 couldn't have hurt..
Originally posted by: Luigi DudeQuoteFixed it for you
Originally posted by: IceCold
Luigi Dude: Are you sure about those figures? I remember the first month it was released in North America (March I believe) it only sold 30,000. This may have been one of the versions only, though (with or without the bongos). I haven't kept tabs after that, but if the numbers are right, it's great news.
You see, this is why most people think Jungle Beat did bad, and a good amount of it is Matt from IGN's fault. He posted the NPD numbers for the game sold WITH the Bongo's, which was only somewhere in the 30,000's and said that was the total. He then went on to talk about how much of a bomb it was because of this and labeled it a failure right away which is why a lot of people think the game did horrible in sales.
Only poor Matt didn't realize that the NPD counted the game sold with the Bongo's and without the Bongo's as too different versions and gave them two separate numbers. The game WITHOUT the Bongo's sold somewhere in the 20,000 and so the combined numbers where actually in the 60,000's for it's first month. But like I said originally the game ended up have great legs and sold an average of in the 30,000's for the rest of 2005.
Lets see if I can get a history lesson going on here using the old Gamecube sales topic
Jungle Beat First Month
Total Sales combined are 62,873.
Jungle Beat Second and Third Month Sales
Sales of the game WITH Bongo's for second month are 38,379
Sales of the game WITH Bongo's for third month are 23,093
BlackNMild2k1 post NPD LTD number for all Gamecube Games as of June 2005
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat all versions combined is at 177,201
NPD LTD numbers as of August 2005
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat all versions combined is at 207,615
NPD LTD numbers as of September 2005
Jungle Beat all versions is at 216,415
Mario post top selling Gamecube titles of 2005 numbers
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat all versions combined sold 261,438 total copies here in North America in 2005
And there you have it, absolute proof that Jungle Beat was not a failure but actually did quite well.
Post by: that Baby guy on June 25, 2007, 07:07:11 PM
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