Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: WuTangTurtle on May 11, 2007, 08:14:22 PM
Title: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 11, 2007, 08:14:22 PM
(UPDATED!) No longer in Beta! PM me for an invite!
I've found a neat little site, I've sent out some PM's to some NWR Staff members to see if they want to get on board. (Jonnyboy117 is already on the prowl!)
The site that I found includes 3 different tournament styles.
- Single Elimination (1 loss elminates you) - Double Elimination (2 losses elminates you, there is a loser bracket and a winning bracket) - Swiss Tourney (1 pt for victories, after set rounds are all done whoever has the most wins)
The site isn't the prettiest but it has a lot of features and controls for the admins.
Were no longer in Beta, the site works for the most part. Here is a link to the main page of NWR - Pokemon League Tournament.
We already finished our 2nd tourney, so as far as i know this will be the NWR - Pokemon League Tournament. We now have about 12 members, if you would want to join in plz PM (click the little lock icon above my post).
(EDIT) Decided to list some new features that I noticed: 1. Prizes can be set by Admins (i.e. Rare Pokemon, NWR prize, Special Signature on NWR Forums maybe?) 2. Can make team tournaments (i.e. 4 ppl to a team, and have like 8 teams or more. Team with most pts win.) 3. I can stage detailed rules for different tourneys (Fire Pokemon only, Female Pokemon only, weight classes, etc) 4. Tournament of Champions (at the end of the month the winners of each tournament are put into a special tournament) 5. Admins can award medals to users. 6. Skill Ratings for users. 7. Stats (Winning Streaks, Win Percentage, Top Players List, etc) 8. Forums & Chat 9. I can have tournaments held in just one day or over multiple days, and ability to postpone a match! 10. If a NWR staffer gives me a image file of the NWR logo or banner, I can upload it to the page.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Khushrenada on May 11, 2007, 08:25:35 PM
Actually, this is a pretty good idea. I'd always thought we'd see more wi-fi competitions on this board. Much like their is radio trivia every couple of weeks, I thought that we might see a wi-fi tourney for the boards every once in a while. I know there are some logistical things that would have to be worked out first but I can do that. Maybe I'll work this problem out and send in a tournament idea with some other ideas I have for the site in my application. Reading your post has given me some great inspiration WuTangTurtle. I'll see that you get a promotion for this. Hey, would you like to join my election party? You can be my secretary of Wi-Fi.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 11, 2007, 08:33:37 PM
oh and i forgot to add, this doesn't have to be only a Pokemon Tournament. The site allows me to make multiple tournaments, so if anyone wants to have a Mario Kart Tourney or any other game, we could.
As for being Khushrenada's Sectretary of Wi-Fi, I'd first have to ask how much does it pay?
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 15, 2007, 03:44:04 PM
hate to double post on my own thread, but some import info:
I've started to notice a problem already, some ppl are having difficulties just trying to complete registration using myleague.com. I'm also finding trouble logging into the site and the navigation of the site and its design is crap.
I've found a better looking site, it even lists Pokemon as one of its games to make a tournament for (nobody has made one yet though), however I do not think there is a way for me to make the league private. I want each of the current Beta Tester's to see if they can login and register through myleague.com, if they have problems I say we start again through this new site.
Oh and plz post in this thread if you are having problems with myleague.com and plz tell me guys if you prefer leaga.com instead.
I'm gonna test the leaga site out and report back here with more info. stay tuned to this thread.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 15, 2007, 04:19:19 PM
Hmmm, I think I'm in the process of registering on the site. My school just started for the Summer, so I've been a little busy. Sorry I haven't been on top of this, I still have to email you. Which I will do right now. Well, right after I look up your email address.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 15, 2007, 04:29:35 PM
umm forget leaga.com apparently I have to be active for 1 full week and have played in 5 different tourneys before i can create anything on my own. Also they have a lot less features and controls for admins and tournament settings.
I think myleague.com is gonna have to be it, unless somebody makes some super kick @$$ tournament site for us. I did find some other sites but like I've said so far myleague.com has the best controls, features, and tournament options. Web page may be ugly and navigation may be questionable but it works, at least on my end.
Please guys find out in the next couple days if you can finish registering to the league and then registering to my first tournament.
Remember guys it starts on 5-19-07 @ 8:00pm EST 5pm Pacific.
(Edit) I contacted the head guys at leaga.com, they say they would let me bypass the week and 5 tourneys restrictions for me. If myleague.com tournaments go sour, let me know if you guys would rather try leaga.com. At this point I'm still in favor of myleague.com but this is one reason why we are having a beta process.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 15, 2007, 04:57:49 PM
Sooo...I think I did everything right, but I don't see a place to put in the code I got in the first email.
Edit: I'm #1 according to the website! Yay!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 15, 2007, 06:08:04 PM
Congrats thatguy, your the first to officially register to the league and to the correct tournament. Now if the other guys can get to the next step.
(Edit) Congrats to Blazecon also.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 19, 2007, 11:10:08 AM
Soo, what needs to happen now?
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 19, 2007, 12:21:55 PM
just check in on that site, u have to log in to the tournament and check in before the tournament officially starts. Open Check in starts 15min before tournament start time.
(Edit) I opened check in status early, as long as u join before the tournament starts you should be set. I'll be on WFC if u need to chat, or use the "dedicated chat" function on the website im in there right now.
(Edit #2) damn it, chat is down or something. Just get on WFC if u need to talk.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 19, 2007, 01:08:18 PM
Ok, so I'm heading to check in now, albeit it a little late I think, but it's having trouble loading.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 19, 2007, 04:29:57 PM
Pokemon Beta results:
Thatguy wins in a landslide.
Thatguy 5-0 WuTang 3-2 Shecky 2-3 Blazecon 0-5
Things went smoothly for the most part, i had to figure out what i had to do as an admin on the fly. Turns out it seems that I have to open check in, close check in, start the tourney, and as matches finish I have to report wins loses, advance the round, accept the next pairings/seeding. Once the tournament is done, all i had to do was update the stats pretty much.
I think we are ready for open registrations to all NWR forum users, PM with ur email if u want an invite. We'll probably start another tournament next saturday at 8pm EST, 5pm Pacific time.
Big thanks to all the users that participated with the Beta test, and good luck to anyone who is paired up with thatguy next time.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 19, 2007, 05:37:28 PM
How did Shecky lose one more than everyone else played? Did I beat him bad enough that it poured over onto an extra loss?
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 19, 2007, 07:16:43 PM
.....typo
but maybe he did deserve that extra loss. 6-1, u almost swept him.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Ceric on May 20, 2007, 03:53:41 AM
Looks interesting but I say the site design itself looks terrible. How does the the results themselves get added? The honor system? I haven't added any friend codes to mine yet but I be interested in the Tourneys.
Also what features would you want in a role your own?
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on May 20, 2007, 07:49:34 AM
Quote Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle .....typo
but maybe he did deserve that extra loss. 6-1, u almost swept him.
Dang man... Harsh...
Part of my problem is that I always have the same 5 pokemon with the same movesets... on top of that I've pretty much battled thatguy, what 12 times with that team... so I'm sure it's hard *not* to predict what I'm going to do. I may need to take a leave from these tournaments so that I can actually have a bench to pull from.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 20, 2007, 08:11:35 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Shecky
Quote Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle .....typo
but maybe he did deserve that extra loss. 6-1, u almost swept him.
Dang man... Harsh...
Part of my problem is that I always have the same 5 pokemon with the same movesets... on top of that I've pretty much battled thatguy, what 12 times with that team... so I'm sure it's hard *not* to predict what I'm going to do. I may need to take a leave from these tournaments so that I can actually have a bench to pull from.
Not exactly my fault, u wanted a rematch for your 5th and final match. I probably should have denied it though.....
and Ceric i sent u a PM to answer your questions.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 20, 2007, 08:21:57 AM
Well, what Shecky neglects to mention is that I've used virtually the same team every time I fight him, too, so he knows what to expect from my side as well. However, that Blazecon guy got it worst from me. 6-0 in that battle.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on May 20, 2007, 08:41:28 AM
Quote Originally posted by: thatguy Well, what Shecky neglects to mention is that I've used virtually the same team every time I fight him, too, so he knows what to expect from my side as well. However, that Blazecon guy got it worst from me. 6-0 in that battle.
Yeah, but a poor match-up is a poor match-up. Just like the one on one... no matter how many time we'd play it out I'd have to catch a rare stroke of luck to pull out a win... and I knew exactly what your going to do. Same for the team play...
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 20, 2007, 08:42:04 AM
Blazecon definitely got the short end of the stick for this tournament. He almost had me, but my Lopunny was able to comeback from a 1vs3 scenario.
By the way thatguy, my Lopunny does have arms, if u look closely u will tell it has its arms in a boxer like stance (but more feminine).
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on May 20, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
Quote Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle Not exactly my fault, u wanted a rematch for your 5th and final match. I probably should have denied it though.....
and Ceric i sent u a PM to answer your questions.
I wasn't pinning fault on anyone but myself, and vowing for a rematch is part of basic smack talk
Quote Blazecon definitely got the short end of the stick for this tournament. He almost had me, but my Lopunny was able to comeback from a 1vs3 scenario.
By the way thatguy, my Lopunny does have arms, if u look closely u will tell it has its arms in a boxer like stance (but more feminine).
Heh, I think I remember that po'ed bunny doing the same to me once
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: LUCOZADE on May 22, 2007, 09:44:05 AM
hey guys can you add me im new my freind code iz ummmmm..... w8 a min ummmmmmmmm..... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... i fogot no w8 i think its coming back...... yes its 3136 3301 6373!!! add me guyz and post yours
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 22, 2007, 11:41:41 AM
D@mmit, did u read anything on this forum thread? This is not a thread to post ur friend code..... If your trying to annoy me, u have accomplished that feat. I'm not even gonna be nice and redirect u to the friend code thread that you should have posted to.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on May 22, 2007, 12:10:13 PM
Ohhh I can't believe I missed this count me in!
My team has been itchin' for some action.
Edit: Whew Thatguy is no joke in a 50 set level match. Looks like I have to power up my team sooner than expected! Well played man well played.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on May 22, 2007, 02:15:13 PM
Quote Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle D@mmit, did u read anything on this forum thread? This is not a thread to post ur friend code..... If your trying to annoy me, u have accomplished that feat. I'm not even gonna be nice and redirect u to the friend code thread that you should have posted to.
lol, WuTang is turning into his Lopunny rightfully so too...
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 22, 2007, 04:02:16 PM
u callin me and my Lopunny mean! lol, we're push overs really! But if u rub us the wrong way u gonna get KO'd.
Oh and just a note, membership has already doubled, yay! I think the grand total so far is like 10 members! It's far from what I hope it will become though. Like I said guys, if u are interested PM me, its the little icon that looks like a lock on each of my posts.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Xavier_Shardae on May 24, 2007, 03:48:16 PM
Im new and wanted to know if I could get in on the tournament action.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 24, 2007, 04:08:26 PM
the more the merrier!
Oh and as an update, if nobody has noticed yet, Jonnyboy117 is testing out the admin abilities on the tournament. Hopefully he can find a way to switch out the dedicated chat room, and forums to redirect using the NWR site's chat room, and forums.
Now its just a waiting game to see if the NWR staff takes over my duties
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on May 25, 2007, 12:10:25 AM
I can't wait for tomorrow night, my revamped team is gonna have fun >=). I look forward to battling Thatguy again for sure.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Caliban on May 25, 2007, 10:48:43 AM
Will the rules be given to us before the tournament or something like so?
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on May 25, 2007, 01:10:03 PM
Much to late for the next event, but I had some thoughts on a play style.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 25, 2007, 01:48:05 PM
Rules are stated on the tournaments check in page.
Instructions:
1. www.myleague.com/nwr (login) 2. click the tournament calendar (sidebar or bottom of page) 3. find the tournament (click it) 4. then click on "rules" (top of page)
(EDIT) It turns out i can only send out 1 Newsletter a week, so instead I'm gonna just post what I was going to say in the Newsletter. The tournament is a go! As of now my Internet is back up, however the technician said they will most likely come back tomorrow to improve the mainline in my street.
Remember guys, register for the tournament ahead of time, and check in 15-30min before the tournament time. If you have questions PM me or email me.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on May 26, 2007, 12:37:11 PM
Where's thatguy ::tears:: he needs to compete this week >.<!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 26, 2007, 12:43:17 PM
he came in last minute last week, hopefully he shows up sooner...
8:15pm is the cut off time.
Oh and everyone, go to the NWR Chat, its located on the front page under community.
(Edit) Tournament Results:
Congrats to Mashiro for winning the tournament and almost going unscathed, 4-1 record!
the newcomers this week whipped the floor with well just me i guess....
Thanks to everyone who participated, and I look forward to the next tourney, hopefully all the past participants as well as the guys that have missed the first 2 tourneys come to the next one.
If playing on a Saturday is a problem please let me know if there is a better day and time for you.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on May 27, 2007, 08:32:28 AM
Sorry, guys, I was a bit busy this week.
Usually Saturday is the best day to do things for me, but I had a friend celebrating a birthday this time.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 31, 2007, 12:11:41 PM
The upcoming tournament is on June 2nd, 2007 thats again a Saturday, time will be 8:15pm EST and 5:15pm Pacific. I've changed some of the rules for this upcoming tourney, in an attempt to shorten the overall tourney I have the first 3 rounds all set as 4 vs 4 singles matches, and the last two rounds set as 4 vs 4 doubles.
I'll be sending out a newsletter to all the members in the next few days, so look carefully in your spam folders
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 02, 2007, 08:51:29 AM
I'm the only one signed up this week ::tear:: I hope more sign up.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 02, 2007, 11:21:33 AM
Looks like I can't make this one either, I'm going to visit with family about now, and won't be back home until tomorrow.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 02, 2007, 11:23:51 AM
alright, well if the turn out is small i guess I'll enter the tourney as well as run it. Thanks to productivity yesterday I only have one thing left to do to graduate!
Well this weeks tourney was a bust, Thatguy couldn't make it becuase of family, Shecky was at a ball game, and Ceric had troubles registering in time. Oh and I've still yet to see some of the other guys attend.
Well here's hoping we can all find a better day and time to host the next tourney. Please PM or email me what you guys prefer, oh and if u state a particular time please say EST or Pacific.
EDIT: New tournament is up for Saturday, June 9th @ 8:15pm EST and 5:15pm Pacific. Lets have a good show guys, it would be nice to see at least half of the members show up instead of just a handful. There won't be a newsletter this week because the site restricts me from sending more than one a week and Friday is the first day I can send a new one, so I'm gonna let it reset, and send out newsletters earlier in the week.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: raz320 on June 06, 2007, 02:19:22 PM
so do you have to invite? because it sounds like a good idea and i want to do it
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 07, 2007, 02:31:47 AM
Just a heads up, I won't be able to play on the weekend since I'll be out of state. Sorry.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 07, 2007, 10:16:46 AM
no problem, it'll give me a better chance at getting at least a victory or two
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 07, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Lol yeah while I am away i'll be finishing up my EV team (one more pokemon to EV train and level and I'm done yay . . .). Then it's GG to the competition! ...I hope >.>
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 07, 2007, 04:17:49 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro Lol yeah while I am away i'll be finishing up my EV team (one more pokemon to EV train and level and I'm done yay . . .). Then it's GG to the competition! ...I hope >.>
Oh great.... an EV'er
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 07, 2007, 04:40:58 PM
Well, whenever you have them EV'ed you should let me hold them for just a little bit. I'd return them, but I may want to gather some DNA first. It depends on what you have, though.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 07, 2007, 05:16:29 PM
use Mashiro as a tool will you... dark side have you gone... no hope for thee.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 07, 2007, 05:19:16 PM
Meh, I'd give copies to you, if you wanted them, too.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 07, 2007, 10:23:24 PM
.....cloning is ethically wrong.
I guess Thatguy and Mashiro will be happy in hell, lol.
As for EV training, I won't be messing with that stuff for quite awhile, and when i do I'm gonna try and not go insane while doing it.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Caliban on June 08, 2007, 09:30:51 AM
I've done some item cloning, so I gues I will die in hell too.
I haven't read on anything about EV or IV, heck I don't even know what they stand for, and I'm not going to...ever, I don't have the time to focus that much effort into one single game.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 08, 2007, 11:54:44 AM
Well, I've forgotten until now...You can use those vitamins to raise the EVs of your Pokemon part of the way. It probably makes it much easier.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 08, 2007, 01:54:39 PM
im not gonna perfectly EV my pokemon, as I have no idea how many crap EV I've gotten, and how many stat decreasing berries I would need to offset them and such.
And just as a reminder Pokemon Tournament tommorow, 6-9-07, @ 8:15pm EST and 5:15pm Pacific.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 09, 2007, 11:14:55 AM
Anybody want to tell me what styles and kinds of battles we'll be having for this one?
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 09, 2007, 11:30:57 AM
not much has changed, I wanted to implement Shecky's idea of posting your teams but keeping one Pokemon a secret but Ty hasn't responded back to my request of having our own Thread for the tournament.
Today's Tournament is as follows:
Round 1-3: 4 vs 4 (Singles) LV 50 mode Round 4-5: 4 vs 4 (Doubles) LV 50 mode
again no legendaries, items are allowed, etc.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 09, 2007, 11:36:47 AM
So items are allowed, but legendaries aren't, or no items or legendaries allowed?
I plan to win!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 09, 2007, 11:54:42 AM
.....items = yes legendaries = F'ck no
i hope Ty does respond back to me, cause i got some other ideas for a tourney that would need its own forum thread. I have an idea to have a draft! Basically each person gets to name one pokemon for their team until the other entrants pick theirs, then you get to pick your second pokemon. This means nobody is allowed to use a Charizard for example if someone else is already using it. Think of it as a fantasy draft.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 09, 2007, 12:55:03 PM
Quote Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle .....items = yes legendaries = F'ck no
i hope Ty does respond back to me, cause i got some other ideas for a tourney that would need its own forum thread. I have an idea to have a draft! Basically each person gets to name one pokemon for their team until the other entrants pick theirs, then you get to pick your second pokemon. This means nobody is allowed to use a Charizard for example if someone else is already using it. Think of it as a fantasy draft.
I, sir, like that idea. The only problem I forsee is that well, not everyone has a diverse pool of pokemon to draft from. In a small group it may work as most people probably have 6-8 (and I'm assuming a team of 4)
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 09, 2007, 01:55:33 PM
I think it will work well if there are rental Pokemon in Pokemon Battle Revolution, myself.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 09, 2007, 04:23:04 PM
Tournament failed, but it turned into a NWR meet-up, only with record keeping with the tourney site.
So today we had Thatguy hitting double digit wins first in the tourney but failing short at hitting number 11 against Shecky! I however went 2-0 on Shecky until he pulled a Gengar in our third match, where he went off from there and beat Thatguy twice in a row! Caliban got some tough losses to Thatguy but edged me out. Here is todays entire matches in reverse order:
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 09, 2007, 05:08:07 PM
Well, for the record, I picked a new team to fight Shecky with for these fights. My normal team still beats everyone all the time.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Caliban on June 09, 2007, 05:16:33 PM
Didn't I beat you (thatguy) once yesterday with your normal team?
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 09, 2007, 05:26:23 PM
I think you did. Check the records. I don't remember for sure, we might have done makeshift teams, but I think you won one. That wasn't part of a tourney battle, but I can start putting all fights up on this thing if that's how everyone chooses to play. It might be interesting. So far, I've been putting mine in the Smack talk thread I've made.
Edit: I just checked, and according to my game's record, I won three matches against you yesterday.
However, I noticed something interesting. Could everyone in this tournament look at me in their Pal pad and tell me what it says after "Group?"
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 10, 2007, 05:57:45 AM
It should say the name of the group you created in town... that's my guess.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Caliban on June 10, 2007, 01:49:34 PM
Quote Originally posted by: thatguy I think you did. Check the records. I don't remember for sure, we might have done makeshift teams, but I think you won one. That wasn't part of a tourney battle, but I can start putting all fights up on this thing if that's how everyone chooses to play. It might be interesting. So far, I've been putting mine in the Smack talk thread I've made.
Edit: I just checked, and according to my game's record, I won three matches against you yesterday.
However, I noticed something interesting. Could everyone in this tournament look at me in their Pal pad and tell me what it says after "Group?"
Yes I do have one victory over you, it was on Saturday at around 1AM, later on (9 or 10pm'ish) I got a beating from you indeed lol. The pal pad keeps the records anyway. I only register losses for the Saturday reunions, any other day for me is a training day. Your "Group" has nothing written on it. Wutang has PETA, Shecky has nothing written, Mashiro has nothing written, and Shast has GODPLAR. If you could tell me what i have written that would be nice please.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 10, 2007, 03:09:47 PM
See, for me, Pale has Zeroes, Shecky has Union 42, WuTang has Peta, Mashiro has nothing, Caliban has nothing, and BlackFootsteps has Nirvana. BFS is the only player with a winning record over me, too.
Yeah, Caliban, I had that I had beaten you five times before last time we had a bunch of matches, and then three more times after that. I also had that I lost to you in that earlier period, so at some point the record was 5-1, and since then, it became 8-1. So you beat me at some point before we played our last three matches, which were either yesterday or the day before or something like that.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Caliban on June 10, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
What's the "group" for anyway, is it of any importance to the game or something?
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 10, 2007, 04:51:26 PM
I have no idea. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 11, 2007, 01:11:26 AM
Well "Union 42" is what I picked as my group name in game in Jubilife city (the city with the GTS). I think there was a gal or guy there by the fountains who asks you what group your a member of. My choice is part of a joke, I don't know if there is a local 42 union in reality. I also don't think there's much of a significance. Most of you folks have played prior games (this is my first in the series) are there groups in the past games??
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 11, 2007, 01:34:49 AM
Quote Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle I however went 2-0 on Shecky until he pulled a Gengar in our third match, where he went off from there and beat Thatguy twice in a row!
For the record I played WuTang 4 times... The first match was a doubles that came down to the final 2 on each side and I had a type mismatch. So, I used my Golem's new found ability to explode and well took EVERYONE out That led to an immediate rematch where this time WuTang did the exploding and whose bunnery endured both my hit and his friendly fire explosion in the same round.
In the last round we boosted pokemon counts to 6 from 4 and I recruited my Gengar to completely mess with his bunnery, which if you ask me likes him *way* to much considering how much damage return was doing...
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 11, 2007, 10:12:14 AM
thnx to the elite 4 it no longer likes me as much.....(i can't get past the 4th person)
the funny thing is Lopunny isn't really that good at all, but out of all my Pokemon so far it has been one of my most stable pokemon. As for that last match against Shecy, ur lucky i deleted the move foresight, otherwise my Lopunny could have destroyed ur Gengar. Also I was able to get u down to just your Gengar, and took half of its life without landing a single blow. If i had just one more Pokemon to withstand Gengar's attacks, Gengar would have died from Hail/Swagger.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Patchkid15 on June 11, 2007, 10:17:06 AM
i have to get farther in the game so i can relate to you guys. I still only have 2 gym badges.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 11, 2007, 05:53:26 PM
I'm back from my trip and I just want to clarify, I do EV train my guys but I do NOT item clone at all.
I don't IV train to perfection (which would require an absurd amount of time and lots of rare candies) but the EVs are easy to do with a Gamefaq list and a calculator haha.
I look forward to playing this week, 5 of my guys are now complete and ready to roll! Just deciding on what the 6th should be...
Oh and on a random side note, I beat the first Tycoon fight in the battle tower today...word lol.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 16, 2007, 10:06:57 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro I'm back from my trip and I just want to clarify, I do EV train my guys but I do NOT item clone at all.
I don't IV train to perfection (which would require an absurd amount of time and lots of rare candies) but the EVs are easy to do with a Gamefaq list and a calculator haha.
I look forward to playing this week, 5 of my guys are now complete and ready to roll! Just deciding on what the 6th should be...
Oh and on a random side note, I beat the first Tycoon fight in the battle tower today...word lol.
You would also need to catch/breed the right pokemon with the right "nature" if you really want to be a perfectionist. Oh and congrats to Mashiro for winning his first fight in the battle tower, personally I still haven't beaten the elite 4 yet
Now some semi important news! I've recently added some nice links back to NWR Home, Forum, and Chat in order to make things easier for people. I've also just added 2 new polls to the main page. Go check em out!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 16, 2007, 10:11:52 AM
::shifty eyes:: Yeah I did bread the right natures too lol and thank you for the congrats =).
Shast and I will be competing tonight btw so I'll check out those new links. Should be fun hope a lot of people play!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 16, 2007, 03:34:12 PM
So as you can see, yours truly has officially bounced back from a 0-5 outing from a tournament ago. Mashiro's EV comeback didn't go as planned. Shast..........he got Shafted this time around (sorry Shast but I had to use that word, lol). Last but not least a new challenger, Toruresu, arrives and nearly steals the show!
I look forward to more of this kind of action, it was some nice furious kinda fun. Till next time guys!
P.S. Forget about fearing my Lopunny shaming you, aBobInSnow is snowplowing everyone away lol.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 16, 2007, 05:12:51 PM
I'm surprised at how little EV training actually does (considering it's so highly touted on other sides as 'essential' to winning).
The moral of the story: don't waste your time EV training: it's pointless.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 16, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
well the way i see it is if a non EV'd Charizard is hit with say surf and dies, I'd bet a EV'd Charizard would still die too. Personally I think EVing only helps the weak or mediocre to become either mediocre or decent. Sure you can increase your Alakazam's SP Attack but chances are its SP Attack is high enough anyways that you are just wasting your time.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 17, 2007, 01:27:48 AM
It might give you that slight edge... so for example several of my pkmn in one of the last matches were left with 1HP... with a little extra EV it might have successfully OHKO it instead. I'm sure some fanatics find that edge 'essential' to winning... I'd rather just enjoy the main game and have fun in these matchups. Take it too seriously and it starts to become systematic, and where's the fun in that.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 17, 2007, 04:17:28 AM
The most frustrating aspect was the speed EV'ed pkmn I had. Aerodactal being slower than well everyone he faced pretty much ruined the way my team worked, so I am going back through the game with a team w/ pkmn I will enjoy rather than just "statistically good" pkmn.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 17, 2007, 04:31:25 AM
I say what pokemon work for you and are most comfortable may be the best team for you. For one you will know their weaknesses and strengths better. That's why I've stuck my Lopunny in almost all my matches, and almost always knock out 1-2 pokemon with it.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 17, 2007, 05:33:12 AM
Well I'm comfortable with all of them but stats are deceiving (example: shast's dragonite has way less speed than my aerodactile but it was still faster than my guy). Another example is my NON-EV trained Jolteon could one shot shast's Infernape, but with my EV trained Jolteon it would always fall short of one shoting him.
Numbers wise the EV trained Jolteon is leaps and bounds above the other Jolteon . . . so why is the non-ev trained one better?
Things like that confuse me.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 17, 2007, 04:23:12 PM
wtf? maybe you should do an experiment on it, make sure you fight the exact same pokemon and use all the same attacks and log the results. Remember to log critical hits and etc.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Shecky on June 17, 2007, 04:44:36 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro Well I'm comfortable with all of them but stats are deceiving (example: shast's dragonite has way less speed than my aerodactile but it was still faster than my guy). Another example is my NON-EV trained Jolteon could one shot shast's Infernape, but with my EV trained Jolteon it would always fall short of one shoting him.
Numbers wise the EV trained Jolteon is leaps and bounds above the other Jolteon . . . so why is the non-ev trained one better?
Things like that confuse me.
You sure you have the two straight? Also, it would be nice to do an experiment, in what really happens to those EV's for lvl50 matches (and lvl100). We all assume that they just stick around, but what if the EV caps are different for lvl50/100 matches (ie: normalized)
Unfortunately, I don't care enough to figure it out, but since you already have EV'd pokemon you could ...
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 17, 2007, 05:29:09 PM
Yep even ask Shast, really bummed me out that all the effort really didn't do much.
Good question about the EVs sticking around, I assume they do (since all pokemon do have EVs as they level) but yeah they don't matter as much as I thought they would I guess.
I'm playing through the game again from the beginning (yep I restarted) to just have more fun with it this time around and to remake half my team and re-use some TMs and such that I already wasted previous. I did keep 3 of my EV guys though that I liked (Gallade, Arcanine and Ludicolo). So we'll see what happens next time around =).
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Caterkiller on June 21, 2007, 06:42:44 AM
The EV's do make a difference, but its not always make or break. The EV's can result in a 30 point state difference, as long as the nature supports what your raising it in. And If you do the math, you see how great that can work out for you.
Dont forget you can only EV train in 2 stats to make any difference, with only about 3 extra points in a 3rd stat. You cant spread them out all over the place, or nothing makes a difference. because all pokemon are EV trained unless they are raised by the day care guys, or have nothing but rare candies from birth. So if all you do is battle every pokemon on the planet it wont make any difference at all. But if you battle nothing but marrils, as you grow a level you will see your HP get literaly a +17 HP increase(depending on how many were battled within that level)
As far as Dragonite out running Aerodactyl, you have to always consider crap items like quick claw, attacks like powder snow , snow slide, being paralyzed, or carrying that heavy ball around.
Did dragonite use Extreem Speed? Other wise it should have went slower.
I have been super busy lately, I mean amazingly busy, but soon enough I will be ready to battle you guys. I just about trained my 2 favorite pokemon up, and the rest will follow easily.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 21, 2007, 04:01:23 PM
Yeah I know everything there is needed to be known about EV's Caterkiller. That's why it makes no sense as to why a statistically weaker pokemon (my original Jolteon) hits HARDER than my EV'ed statistically higher Jolteon. Again the numbers all match up to what the EVs should be doing but the outcome didn't.
As for Dragonite, he just used normal moves (no items went off while he did the moves nor was the move an extreme speed or quick attack style move).
It's weird I know so like I said don't bother with EVs . . .lol.
Title: RE:Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 21, 2007, 06:02:16 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro Yeah I know everything there is needed to be known about EV's Caterkiller. That's why it makes no sense as to why a statistically weaker pokemon (my original Jolteon) hits HARDER than my EV'ed statistically higher Jolteon. Again the numbers all match up to what the EVs should be doing but the outcome didn't.
As for Dragonite, he just used normal moves (no items went off while he did the moves nor was the move an extreme speed or quick attack style move).
It's weird I know so like I said don't bother with EVs . . .lol.
It's a trick! He just doesn't want us to EV train, because he works for Peta!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 21, 2007, 06:16:26 PM
Lol in the worlds of Admaral Akbar . . . IT'S A TRAP!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: that Baby guy on June 21, 2007, 06:24:19 PM
Do you know how damage is calculated? Did you know the IV or nature differences between the two Jolteons? Do you know the stats of the opposing Pokemon? Was it the same one each time, with the same hold item each time? Did one Jolteon have a Magnet or Choice item? There are plenty of things you might have overlooked, but keep in mind that some random numbers are generated into the damage formula for every hit, so there is some chance that a weaker pokemon could do more damage than the stronger one.
Also, are you sure you maxed out the EV's? You might have made a counting mistake. You can go to someone in the game that gives you a ribbon when EV's are maxed.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mashiro on June 21, 2007, 06:30:54 PM
Lol the great EV discussion continues!
1) Yes 2) Yes 3) Yes 4) Yes 5) Each Jolteon used the same held item
and lastly: yeah I know it is random but literally every hit with the weaker Jolteon would one shot the opposing Infernape. Now on the same infernape with the EV Jolteon (again numbers higher than the other Jolteon) he would always fall short of one shoting the infernape by around 15 hitpoints.
and yes I'm positive it was maxed out.
It doesn't matter much anymore now though, it will forever boggle my mind. . . . the only EV trained guys I have kept are Arcanine, Gallade and Ludicolo. Upon restarting my game I decided to use 3 new guys in my final team and I'll see how that goes ^_^, onward to badge 4 . . . again!
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: Mario on June 21, 2007, 09:09:08 PM
Maybe their happiness level was different? Could be a new discovery.
EVs make twice as much difference at level 100 than they do at 50, because even if you've maxed them out earlier than 50, they aren't all added on until level 100. That's why you can see insane gains in just the one level if you put in heaps of EVs at level 80-90, since it'll be "catching up" to give you the appropriate EVs for the level. So what i'm trying to say is, the lower the level, the less EVs (and IVs) make a difference.
Title: RE: Pokemon Tournament Beta Testing
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 27, 2007, 05:16:06 PM
Got some bad news....
I've come to a realization that I really don't have the time to really host/admin the NWR - Pokemon League Tournaments.
1. My QA Tester job is very taxing on my availability. 2. I'll be doing a lot of overtime on multiple titles. 3. At best I'll have maybe one whole free day to myself. 4. I'm pursuing a 3D Modeler/Level Design job for the future and need to put priority on that over everything.
I'll be posting a Newsletter to inform everybody that may not come here. It would be awesome if I could find one or two people that could just administer the tourneys. If I can't then the tourneys would probably only be a once or twice occurrence a month, as my availability will be low. Also me and Ty were gonna work out a forum section here for the tournaments, and now I'm not sure if I should give him the info and the go ahead.
For now expect a tourney this week, but next week I can't host one due to some overtime at work. I'll keep everybody posted with my status as well as the Tournament League's status.