Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2007, 11:09:02 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 17, 2007, 11:16:43 AM
I hope everything turns out well for you and your family, Sophia. And if death happens, just be strong for everyone. I know that sadness can tempt people into doing a lot of stuff. You should be stronger than that. No matter how strong the pain may be its something that time will heal. It will heal faster if you are willing to move on.
Be strong.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 17, 2007, 11:30:17 AM
Post by: Ceric on April 17, 2007, 12:58:40 PM
Though I will say that if something does happen do like my friend family does. Celebrate her life and be happy for her. No use dwelling on it. It wouldn't bring her back.
Hopefully it won't come to that and her heart will heal and become strong again.
So as I said I hope things work out.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 17, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
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Post by: Kairon on April 17, 2007, 07:35:23 PM
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Celebrate her life and be happy for her.
Yeah, I agree. The passing of a loved one is a major change in life... but in the years to come you remember them as they lived. Death isn't what defines those who pass away, it's the shared memories and experiences that live on to warmly comfort their protectors for years and years.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2007, 08:27:44 PM
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~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2007, 09:12:40 PM
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Is she conscious or still under from the operation? Is your family all living close to the hospital?
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
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She has been in and out, today they had her under so she could rest up for them to take out the pump later today. They are going to take her off medication slowly all tonight. In regards to the family living by, there have been people in the waiting room almost all day ever since she got there, it is almost always halfway full and during the day there are close to 15 people there for her. The other night three of my family members stayed the night and slept in the waiting room.
Post by: Shift Key on April 17, 2007, 09:58:37 PM
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if I could get your thoughts and perhaps prayers
No offense, but there are more practical things that you can do. Like spending time with your grandmother and ensuring she is as comfortable as possible. While she is still recovering from the surgery you and the family will probably get a good idea of the big picture, short term and long term.
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It still seems almost like a dream, like it isn't real, but the truth is slowly but surely sinking in.
Yeah, I've been down that road when my grandmother passed away a couple of years ago. Just enjoy every moment you have.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2007, 10:53:43 PM
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if I could get your thoughts and perhaps prayers
No offense, but there are more practical things that you can do. Like spending time with your grandmother and ensuring she is as comfortable as possible. While she is still recovering from the surgery you and the family will probably get a good idea of the big picture, short term and long term.Quote
It still seems almost like a dream, like it isn't real, but the truth is slowly but surely sinking in.
Yeah, I've been down that road when my grandmother passed away a couple of years ago. Just enjoy every moment you have.
Um I've spent a considerable amount of time there, in fact I've spent close to 8 hrs a day at the hospital and there are usually people there for her around the clock. I do believe in the power prayer, so I consider that a VERY practical in addition to family being there.
Post by: Shift Key on April 17, 2007, 11:00:12 PM
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Um I've spent a considerable amount of time there, in fact I've spent close to 8 hrs a day at the hospital and there are usually people there for her around the clock. I do believe in the power prayer, so I consider that a VERY practical in addition to family being there.
Yeah, I thought you'd get offended. I should have gone on a rambling tangent about how life is short and how you should treasure every moment you have with the people you love. But no, you take me out of context because I don't share the same spirituality that you do.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2007, 11:10:36 PM
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Um I've spent a considerable amount of time there, in fact I've spent close to 8 hrs a day at the hospital and there are usually people there for her around the clock. I do believe in the power prayer, so I consider that a VERY practical in addition to family being there.
Yeah, I thought you'd get offended. I should have gone on a rambling tangent about how life is short and how you should treasure every moment you have with the people you love. But no, you take me out of context because I don't share the same spirituality that you do.
Huh? My point is that I consider asking for peoples thoughts and prayers was in fact practical, in addition to spending time there. I am not sure what exactly you intended with your response but it came accross as rude and accusatory, like all we were doing was praying.
Post by: EasyCure on April 18, 2007, 01:47:05 AM
best wishes to you and your family..
whether she goes or not, just remember, especially when it gets tough, all the good memories you have. cherish them and keep them in your heart.
i never really got to know any of my grandparents. my fathers parents passed away before i was even born, and my mothers side lives in Ecuador and i've only met them once when i was 8. they spoke spanish and at the time i didnt speak it that well so we couldnt even talk to each other. when my grandfather died i felt sad but only because i didnt feel saddened by it. it sounds horrible to say but, he was basically a stranger to me. watching my mother mourn and not knowing how she felt was the saddest feeling of all.
Post by: Ceric on April 18, 2007, 03:29:37 AM
50/50 with a major heart condition is not bad odds at all.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 18, 2007, 11:08:22 AM
I've always thought that the reason why we watch people go downhill as they get old is so that we can be glad that, by the end, they're out of their pain and we've accepted it.
And don't be upset with Shift Key about what he said: I don't think I've ever seen him be sincere like that before so I'm confident that his intentions were good.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 18, 2007, 12:21:28 PM
It's sad that she's in the hospital, but hopefully she'll pull through, and it's great you're supporting her. My best wishes and prayers go to your family.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 18, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
A few years ago my Dad was in the hospital in critical condition and the doctors were not able to figure out what was going wrong. I was seriously afraid every day during those few months that I would come home to find out my father had died. I'm much closer to my parents and brothers than I am to my extended family so the idea of losing one of them at this point in my life was overwhelming. Thankfully my Dad survived though his health still isn't very good.
Post by: Shift Key on April 18, 2007, 01:34:58 PM
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Shift_Key, you know perfectly well that your comment was going to be taken as an offensive remark. You're the one about to turn this thread into a religious debate. Don't try to hide it. My respect for you has fallen considerably.
I don't regret what I said. I was there with my dad when the doctor who looked after my grandmother was explaining the situation to us regarding her health and summed it up with "she's only got a few days to live." She'd been in hospital for a while but her health rapidly deteriorated within the space of a couple of weeks. And it wasn't a problem that could be repaired with surgery, but motor neurone disease.
When you hear news like that, you see things from a different perspective. Reality comes crashing down, so to speak. What is important often becomes irrelevant. What is a possibility becomes unavoidable.
I wasn't playing the devil's advocate - I was encouraging GP to enjoy the time she has left with her grandmother. Hell, I was at work when I heard that my grandmother finally passed away a few days later. I wish I was there to say goodbye.
That was the point I was trying to convey. Don't you dare push my agenda into this.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 18, 2007, 01:46:28 PM
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Shift_Key, you know perfectly well that your comment was going to be taken as an offensive remark. You're the one about to turn this thread into a religious debate. Don't try to hide it. My respect for you has fallen considerably.
I don't regret what I said. I was there with my dad when the doctor who looked after my grandmother was explaining the situation to us regarding her health and summed it up with "she's only got a few days to live." She'd been in hospital for a while but her health rapidly deteriorated within the space of a couple of weeks. And it wasn't a problem that could be repaired with surgery, but motor neurone disease.
When you hear news like that, you see things from a different perspective. Reality comes crashing down, so to speak. What is important often becomes irrelevant. What is a possibility becomes unavoidable.
I wasn't playing the devil's advocate - I was encouraging GP to enjoy the time she has left with her grandmother. Hell, I was at work when I heard that my grandmother finally passed away a few days later. I wish I was there to say goodbye.
That was the point I was trying to convey. Don't you dare push my agenda into this.
You point is true, but the delivery made it sound like you were saying that by praying he was wasting time and wasn't spending enough time with her.
I do think I overreacted though. I can be hot-headed at times.
Post by: wandering on April 18, 2007, 04:33:35 PM
My grandfather died of brain cancer, a week before last Christmas. That was....a very painful time, made all the worse by the fact that the family was torn apart over disagreements about his healthcare. I've been trying to stop thinking about all that, though. I know he'd rather I dwell on the good memories of him.
Anyway, I hope your grandmother recovers, and lives for many more years. But that's up to God. Cherish all the time you have with her.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 18, 2007, 05:18:08 PM
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