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Title: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 17, 2007, 08:01:47 AM
Saw this at GoNintendo:

It all started with this little image, showing the games that will make up the Fabula Nova Crystallis series for the Final Fantasy XIII games.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=16343#comments

This is where things get interesting. There are two circles that represent the two PS3 games, one that represents the mobile game, a somewhat smaller blank circle by itself, and two blank circles, one large and one noticeably smaller, grouped together and separated from the rest.

Obviously, these blank circles represent new games that are going to be a part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis universe, but the two blank circles are the most interesting. It is being speculated that the two grouped together represent a console game (larger circle) and a handheld counterpart (smaller circle).

My guess is that it's a Wii game, and the smaller circle is the DS. It COULD be the PS3 and PSP (considering the rest of the series is on PS3 and they probably wouldn't want to stretch their market, and they have yet to REALLY support the PSP), but I doubt it. Square-Enix is definitely noticing how much the Wii is selling, and how relatively cheaper it would be to develop for it. That, and they are absolutely in love with the DS, have been supporting it like crazy, have been getting mad Nintendo love for supporting it as they have, and probably won't stop anytime soon. Square-Enix is also smart enough to know that the Wii has yet to have a traditional, bread-and-butter JRPG announced for it, and that they'd absolutely clean house if the first was a Final Fantasy game.

Microsoft is out of the running for the simple fact that it doesn't have a handheld counterpart, and you can tell by the size and formation of the circles that that's what it's most likely going to be.

Granted, this is all crazy speculation, but I think it's safe to say that I would have a spontaneous orgasm if any game from the Final Fantasy XIII series came to the Wii (as long as it's a similar RPG, and not some weird fighting game/tactics spinoff).

Any thoughts?  
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 17, 2007, 08:12:11 AM
I think part of the reason we are getting mad DS support is Square finally started using an engine instead of developing of the game from scratch.   So its easy.  Plus they realize that RPGs are very easy to randomly set done most of time.  Which is good for a handheld market.
Personally I hope FF:12 gets a port to Wii even if it uses the classic controller, actually that be preferable.  I want to play that game but I can't justify the PS2 now.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 17, 2007, 08:21:53 AM
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Personally I hope FF:12 gets a port to Wii even if it uses the classic controller, actually that be preferable.

I would die a happy man if that happened. Not too many people feel the same way, but FFXII is my favorite FF to date, and it would be perfect for the Wii.

Square-Enix's Nintendo support has blossomed on the DS, hopefully that has given them a bit of incentive to move some of that support console-side.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Crimm on April 17, 2007, 09:29:37 AM
Final Fantasy XIII Belt and Buckle Games.

Think Mario Party with impossible hair.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Adrock on April 17, 2007, 10:25:23 AM
I've been predicting a Final Fantasy XII port for months. It just makes so much sense considering Reverent Wings is on DS not PSP.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 17, 2007, 12:48:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Adrock
I've been predicting a Final Fantasy XII port for months. It just makes so much sense considering Reverent Wings is on DS not PSP.


Though I do hope that if they port over FF:XII they enhance it some.  Also be really cool to be able to use the DS as a controller for it.  Inventory and switches on the fly.  Also looking at one of my friend using that license board it might make that quicker as well.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Kairon on April 17, 2007, 01:05:33 PM
God that would be sooooo great. All I could ever ask for...

But I'm sad: The smaller circle could be a trading card game that ties into the larger circle, which would be an arcade machine much like how Sega did Love & Berry, extra cards would not only be used to play the game, but give your characters new clothes!

Sure the Wii is doing gangbusters, but you have GOT to be sure that Square is eyeing the Love & Berry market and thinking arcade machines + Collectible Card Games + Buying Booster Packs with new fashions for your Final Fantasy clothes for your characters = MONEY.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 17, 2007, 01:23:55 PM
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Though I do hope that if they port over FF:XII they enhance it some. Also be really cool to be able to use the DS as a controller for it. Inventory and switches on the fly. Also looking at one of my friend using that license board it might make that quicker as well.


I'd love that, but at the same time I'd be just as happy if they just took some of the extra power of the Wii to get rid of the lag in some of the bigger battles.

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Sure the Wii is doing gangbusters, but you have GOT to be sure that Square is eyeing the Love & Berry market and thinking arcade machines + Collectible Card Games + Buying Booster Packs with new fashions for your Final Fantasy clothes for your characters = MONEY.

Oh don't say that!!! Just saying it can make it true!
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Luigi Dude on April 17, 2007, 02:00:17 PM
Well considering how poorly the PS3 is doing in Japan and how the Wii is completly dominating, I'm sure there will be some kind of Final Fantasy XIII game appearing on the Wii.  Every Final Fantasy game since FFV has sold over 2 million copies in Japan and when you look at the fact that the PS3 hasn't even broke a million yet and will be lucky if it's even close to 2 million by the time FFXIII is ready, releasing a FFXIII game for the Wii is a MUST for Square-Enix if they hope to make any money.

And considering how the Wii is dominating in Japan, my guess is the Final Fantasy XIII game for the Wii will not just be a sidestory but be a huge part of the main Fabula Nova Crystallis universe story.  Since the Wii version will be would sells the most in Japan, I see it's game having a storyline just as important to the Fabula Nova Crystallis universe as the PS3 game.

It'll be like the PS3 game tells one half of the story while the Wii game then tells the other half.  But it's done in a way so that you dont need to play both games to get the overall story, but if you were to play both games then everything would make since.  Similar to the Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Seasons games.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 17, 2007, 02:46:32 PM
I'm going to be late to the party and ask:

Fabula Nova Crystallis universe?

I'm assuming thats where 13 will take place I was wondering if anyone has some linkage for that.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Darkheart on April 17, 2007, 02:56:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
I'm going to be late to the party and ask:

Fabula Nova Crystallis universe?

I'm assuming thats where 13 will take place I was wondering if anyone has some linkage for that.



Yeah thats what this thread was supposed to be about at first before the wishful FF12 talk.  its basically the same universe these 3 games exist in.


FFXIII PS3
FFXIII Versus PS3 (Despite its name its an action RPG made by the Kingdom Hearts team lead by Noramura himself)
FFXIII AGITO Cell phone

The thing that bothers me is that if the cell phone game got as big as a circle then what does the small circle represent?  I do hope that those are Wii/Ds projects to add to the Fabula Nova Crystallis projects.  The Wii could use more Rpgs anyhow and the Square Enix loyalty around the world is pretty strong.


Anywhoo, all I want is my Kingdom Hearts on Wii and Ds. . . .  
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 17, 2007, 03:58:03 PM
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Anywhoo, all I want is my Kingdom Hearts on Wii and Ds. . . .



Yeah that would save my $600.  My Wife is really into the series.  I really enjoyed the first, Chain of Memory I couldn't get into (battle system), and 2 was a major disappointment for me because it had a lot of potential and it was pretty much "Me Sora, Me Bash" compared to the first one.  Though the original secret trailer and the new secret trailer at the end of KH2 and KH2 Final Mix + to peak my interest.

Wiki for Fabula_Nova_Crystallis
Looks ambitious and monolithic.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Kairon on April 17, 2007, 04:04:01 PM
Yeah, I'd LOVE for FFXIII or a near-title to be on Wii, but I'm really pinning my heart and hopes on Kingdom Hearts making the crossing.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 17, 2007, 04:18:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, I'd LOVE for FFXIII or a near-title to be on Wii, but I'm really pinning my heart and hopes on Kingdom Hearts making the crossing.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Agreed. And I think Squeenix would actually be able to work wonders with the battle system and the wiimote.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 17, 2007, 05:33:11 PM
Pittbboi, what is happening lately? You've been so positive the last couple of weeks.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 17, 2007, 06:17:53 PM
I don't think that all the remaining circles are necessarily games.... I mean, the "GAME" tag above PS3 and mobile phones would be redudant if all were games...

I do hope that one of them is a Wii/DS game though...
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 17, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Pittbboi, what is happening lately? You've been so positive the last couple of weeks.

I don't know, I think I'm coming down with something...

I know I may be overly harsh with the Wii and Nintendo, but hey, I do own one, and I've been a fan of Nintendo all this time for a reason.  
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Darkheart on April 18, 2007, 02:24:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Pittbboi, what is happening lately? You've been so positive the last couple of weeks.

I don't know, I think I'm coming down with something...

I know I may be overly harsh with the Wii and Nintendo, but hey, I do own one, and I've been a fan of Nintendo all this time for a reason.



So is that how you treat your own mother?

Pittbboi: I see that you baked some cookies
Mom: ^-^ Yup they are declicious and made with love for you~!
Pittbboi: IS THIS OATMEAL, OMG OATMEAL IS MADE OUT OF PHAIL
Mom: But they are healthier for you
Pittbboi: EVERYONE KNOWS CHOCOLATE CHIP IS BETTER
Mom: Chocolate chips are in those cookies sweetypie ^-^
Pittbboi: WELL can I take these cookies online!?
Mom: Ummm well no . . . when I made these cookies I had all the intention of sharing them in a single room so everyone could enjoy them together.
Pittbboi: Your the Sega of Moms thanks a lot Mom AND IM TAKING THESE TOO ::grabs all of the cookies and runs away::


The End


I kid Pittbboi I kid lol it is nice to see some positive comments from yee.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 18, 2007, 03:15:08 AM
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Pittbboi: Your the Sega of Moms thanks a lot Mom AND IM TAKING THESE TOO ::grabs all of the cookies and runs away::



Me confused... The Cookies ARE online enabled? (Sega being the only one to make an online GCN game )
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Darkheart on April 18, 2007, 06:27:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
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Pittbboi: Your the Sega of Moms thanks a lot Mom AND IM TAKING THESE TOO ::grabs all of the cookies and runs away::



Me confused... The Cookies ARE online enabled? (Sega being the only one to make an online GCN game )


You mean the only Sega online game that revenues money,keeps on getting ported a billion times, that is whored and milked worse than a cow brothel . . . . Ah yes that game~!  
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 18, 2007, 07:56:28 AM
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Originally posted by: darkheart
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Originally posted by: Ceric
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Pittbboi: Your the Sega of Moms thanks a lot Mom AND IM TAKING THESE TOO ::grabs all of the cookies and runs away::



Me confused... The Cookies ARE online enabled? (Sega being the only one to make an online GCN game )


You mean the only Sega online game that revenues money,keeps on getting ported a billion times, that is whored and milked worse than a cow brothel . . . . Ah yes that game~!  


Sweet.  That means I get lots of cookies, right?
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Magik on April 18, 2007, 01:12:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
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Personally I hope FF:12 gets a port to Wii even if it uses the classic controller, actually that be preferable.

I would die a happy man if that happened. Not too many people feel the same way, but FFXII is my favorite FF to date, and it would be perfect for the Wii.

Square-Enix's Nintendo support has blossomed on the DS, hopefully that has given them a bit of incentive to move some of that support console-side.


FFXII was the best RPG of last gen.  There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2007, 01:25:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Magik
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
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Personally I hope FF:12 gets a port to Wii even if it uses the classic controller, actually that be preferable.

I would die a happy man if that happened. Not too many people feel the same way, but FFXII is my favorite FF to date, and it would be perfect for the Wii.

Square-Enix's Nintendo support has blossomed on the DS, hopefully that has given them a bit of incentive to move some of that support console-side.


FFXII was the best RPG of last gen.  There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


...Because they don't play themselves?

*BA DUM TIIIISHH!
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Shift Key on April 18, 2007, 01:39:59 PM
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You have two PS3 titles, one mobile phone titles, and 3 unannounced games. Now I could go absolutely crazy with this picture and base ideas on the size and relation of the other circles, but I am not going to. All I will say is that I’d think it’s a pretty safe bet that at least one of these Final Fantasy XIII will come to a Nintendo platform. Place your bets now…what’s it going to be?


I love how this "pretty safe bet" is done with no credible evidence. Good call GoNintendo!

And this is still just speculation. Probably Square messing with the fanboys.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2007, 02:03:09 PM
I'm sure that when he said "safe bet" he was talking about the DS, considering it got a sequel to FFXII along with the next DQ game.

I'm putting my money that if there is indeed another FFXIII game in the works it will head to the DS.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 18, 2007, 02:48:12 PM
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FFXII was the best RPG of last gen. There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


Agreed. I hated the idea of them taking out random battles before the game was released, but after playing the game, random battles just seem...archaic. Contrary to what some people say *cough*pap*cough* I was surprised by just how much strategy was required in the battles. The game didn't play itself, I was constantly overriding commands and changing gambits to fit the situation. I would play that game all over again if it were on the Wii.

Also, I guess it could be GoNintendo getting excited...but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii got a piece of FFXIII, especially if the DS gets a game.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 18, 2007, 02:59:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Shift Key
And this is still just speculation. Probably Square messing with the fanboys.


While I agree with this in full, it seems to be more the Sony fans they enjoy messing with than the Nintendo fans as of late.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2007, 03:06:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
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FFXII was the best RPG of last gen. There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


Agreed. I hated the idea of them taking out random battles before the game was released, but after playing the game, random battles just seem...archaic. Contrary to what some people say *cough*pap*cough* I was surprised by just how much strategy was required in the battles. The game didn't play itself, I was constantly overriding commands and changing gambits to fit the situation. I would play that game all over again if it were on the Wii.

Also, I guess it could be GoNintendo getting excited...but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii got a piece of FFXIII, especially if the DS gets a game.


I haven't played FFXII (even though I have it), so I can't talk about the engine, except that some love it while others hate it.

Believe me when I say that if I hadn't posted the joke SB would've done it. The opportunity was too perfect to pass it up.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Galford on April 18, 2007, 06:20:50 PM
Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.  
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge graphics.  
The FF series has always been known for bleeding edge graphics for any platform period.
The Wii can't even handle first gen PS3 graphics let only FF13.

2.)The game is being built on the "White Engine".  The White Engine is being built from the ground up for the PS3.
Don't expect Square-Enix to port it anytime soon now that they have UE3 onboard.

Nintendo might get a new FF13 spin off, but none of the current FF13 will ever see the light of day on Wii.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Shift Key on April 18, 2007, 06:35:09 PM
Thanks for the rational thoughts Galford rather than the "spontaneous orgasm" trail of thought.

The Wii is much more likely to get a spinoff series than the FF(n+1) series itself.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 18, 2007, 06:37:52 PM
Not to go advocating the devil or anything, but when was the last new media of FF13 shown? Was it recently?
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: that Baby guy on April 18, 2007, 06:40:27 PM
I thought it was back at E3 '06.
They went on that whole "White Engine" spiel.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Darkheart on April 18, 2007, 06:50:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Galford
Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.  
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge graphics.  
The FF series has always been known for bleeding edge graphics for any platform period.
The Wii can't even handle first gen PS3 graphics let only FF13.

2.)The game is being built on the "White Engine".  The White Engine is being built from the ground up for the PS3.
Don't expect Square-Enix to port it anytime soon now that they have UE3 onboard.

Nintendo might get a new FF13 spin off, but none of the current FF13 will ever see the light of day on Wii.



UMMMM theres 3 games in the FFXIII series. . . . one is for a cell phone, we would not get a port of FFXIII but a spin off in the series . . .


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Not to go advocating the devil or anything, but when was the last new media of FF13 shown? Was it recently?




Famitsu scans, we now know that the summons are able to transform into vehicles eg shiva turns into a motorcycle. . .
The main character is named Lightning which is only a nickname. . .how appropriate from the man who created Cloud . . .
Then theres lots of pretty pictures from the rehashed trailer and some new shots . . .


I also reccomend any Kingdom Hearts fan to go watch the FFXIII Versus trailer as its being done by the Kingdom Hearts team down to the composer.  The trailer feels straight up Kingdom Hearts down to the last piano note.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 18, 2007, 06:52:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Galford
Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.  
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge FMVs.
fixed
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Kairon on April 18, 2007, 06:57:36 PM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
I thought it was back at E3 '06.
They went on that whole "White Engine" spiel.


And then they licensed the Unreal 3 Engine. Amirite?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Pittbboi on April 18, 2007, 07:27:04 PM
 
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Well I guess it's time to bring everyone back to reality.
Here's a couple reasons why FF13 is not coming to the Wii.

1.)Bleeding edge graphics.
The FF series has always been known for bleeding edge graphics for any platform period.
The Wii can't even handle first gen PS3 graphics let only FF13.

1) That may be true, but that doesn't mean the Wii can't/won't get some form of FFXIII, made specifically for it. Square has stated that they plan for the Fabula Nova Crystallis games to span multiple platforms, and as Darkheart pointed out one of the games is for mobile phones. So, well, there goes that argument. The Wii may or may not get part of FFXIII, but if the Wii doesn't it won't be because it isn't powerful enough.

2) If Final Fantasy were only about bleeding edge graphics, they would have been on the Xbox last gen. No, Squeenix is about great visuals no matter what platform they're developing for, and that includes the Wii. A Wii Final Fantasy will just mean Square pushing the Wii to its graphical limit...even if that won't look as good as the PS3.


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2.)The game is being built on the "White Engine". The White Engine is being built from the ground up for the PS3.
Don't expect Square-Enix to port it anytime soon now that they have UE3 onboard.

Nintendo might get a new FF13 spin off, but none of the current FF13 will ever see the light of day on Wii.


Actually, the white engine started out for the PS2, it wasn't until the PS3 was unveiled and its specs released that Square upgraded it to PS3. Considering that, it wouldn't be entirely out of the question for a downgraded version of the White Engine to exist, or for Square to downgrade the Unreal 3 engine for use on the Wii.

Also, I think you're only thinking in terms of one of the Final Fantasy XIII games. There are known to be 6 thus far, and not all of them have been slated to use the White engine. In fact, only the first one is actually confirmed to be using the White Engine, and considering that one of the games is going to be on cell phones, and Squeenix just licensed an out-of-house engine, it isn't illogical to assume that not all of them will be using the white engine.  This makes an environment for developing a Final Fantasy game on the Wii very possible. It may not happen, sure, but to say it's out of the question is preposterous, considering what we know at this point.

Not only that, but there isn't going to be a "FFXIII" spin-off. Squeenix has said multiple times that each game in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series is going to be a stand-alone game in the same "universe". IF the Wii gets a game it most likely won't be a "spin-off", but it's own entry into the FFXIII universe.

Oh, and I think we're all forgetting that Square is definitely one of the most money-hungry game devs out there. They take their franchises wherever the money is (which is a major reason why DQIX is on the DS). The Wii is creaming both the 360 and PS3 in Japan, and it's leaving PS3 in the dust and closing in fast on the 360 everywhere else. Looking at those figures, and given Square's history and the fact that Nintendo would LOVE to have a main Final Fantasy on their console, I'd say it's VERY possible...


wow...and I think this is the first debate I've been in on NWR where I was the pro-Wii one.......    
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: that Baby guy on April 18, 2007, 07:50:37 PM
Well, I have to say that I agree with Pittboi 100%.

In fact, I would venture to say that if any developer is willing to reduce the polygons of most next-gen games, they'd be reproducible on the Wii easily.  Though sometimes, I suppose having too many enemies on screen at once could be a problem, I think that even fade-in effects would allow this to be possible.  That's a reason why I went with the Wii this generation: With the NES to SNES, there was increased functionality, noticeably sharped AI, and several other aspects in games were improved upon.  The next generation, with the PS and the N64, well, obviously these two systems added greatly to what could be done in gaming.  The generation after that, with the PS2, 360, and GC, well, to me, they allowed 3D gaming to look clean, and paved the start of online gaming, and that's about it.  Developers weren't truly limited by system power at this point, and they really didn't do everything they could with the hardware, despite what they may have claimed.  Worlds became huge, and games became too long for my case, in most situations.

Now, what does the new generation bring?  Sharper graphics, and that's about it if you don't include motion controls.  However, with this, there's more expensive games, more expensive TVs, and only minimal increase in difference.  Most developers don't need to waste their time too much on the superficial stuff.  If they can maintain a nice style, graphics, to me, mean nothing much, so long as the system can maintain this style.  At this point, I cannot imagine a style that cannot be conveyed with the power of the systems we have.  I would love for someone to prove me wrong, but I doubt it will happen.  That's just me, though.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Artimus on April 18, 2007, 07:59:18 PM
It's nice to see FFXIII is throwing out all aspects of fantasy. There's always been too much fantasy in the series. Seriously. It's like all they ever used to be was fantasy! God, it's not like the word fantasy is in the title.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Kairon on April 18, 2007, 09:52:01 PM
Let's hope this FFXIII spinoff thing pulls through. And the Kingdom hearts thing. And the Dragon Quest thing.

Oh, by the way, Dragon Quest Swords will be out in Japan this June. Think we'll get it by Fall in the U.S.? Sure, it's Dragon Quest, but it IS a SWORDS game, a waggle-slashing demo... sure it's got Akira Toriyama art... but it IS WAGGLE!!!! So don't expect stellar numbers out of it. I'm guessing 250k... tops in Japan. More like 150k.

But I'm hoping that the Wii gets a slew of other RPGs from the smaller developers who populated the PS2. That'd be awesome if we could get a mass migration of those guys onto the Wii... so far they seem to be clinging onto the PS2 for as long as they can.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Darkheart on April 19, 2007, 03:41:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Let's hope this FFXIII spinoff thing pulls through. And the Kingdom hearts thing. And the Dragon Quest thing.

Oh, by the way, Dragon Quest Swords will be out in Japan this June. Think we'll get it by Fall in the U.S.? Sure, it's Dragon Quest, but it IS a SWORDS game, a waggle-slashing demo... sure it's got Akira Toriyama art... but it IS WAGGLE!!!! So don't expect stellar numbers out of it. I'm guessing 250k... tops in Japan. More like 150k.

But I'm hoping that the Wii gets a slew of other RPGs from the smaller developers who populated the PS2. That'd be awesome if we could get a mass migration of those guys onto the Wii... so far they seem to be clinging onto the PS2 for as long as they can.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com



Ill take you on that bet sir,  I think the Dragon Quest name and the Wii's popularity will make at LEAST a million off of this game . . . Plus dont forget that it is still rumored that Swords might be bundled with Wiis for a slightly higher price in Japan . . .

Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Ceric on April 19, 2007, 06:01:36 AM
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Originally posted by: darkheart
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Let's hope this FFXIII spinoff thing pulls through. And the Kingdom hearts thing. And the Dragon Quest thing.

Oh, by the way, Dragon Quest Swords will be out in Japan this June. Think we'll get it by Fall in the U.S.? Sure, it's Dragon Quest, but it IS a SWORDS game, a waggle-slashing demo... sure it's got Akira Toriyama art... but it IS WAGGLE!!!! So don't expect stellar numbers out of it. I'm guessing 250k... tops in Japan. More like 150k.

But I'm hoping that the Wii gets a slew of other RPGs from the smaller developers who populated the PS2. That'd be awesome if we could get a mass migration of those guys onto the Wii... so far they seem to be clinging onto the PS2 for as long as they can.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com



Ill take you on that bet sir,  I think the Dragon Quest name and the Wii's popularity will make at LEAST a million off of this game . . . Plus dont forget that it is still rumored that Swords might be bundled with Wiis for a slightly higher price in Japan . . .


Not to mention the original game in the Swords series was a set top TV game and from what I read it did really well.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: Magik on April 19, 2007, 11:56:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
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FFXII was the best RPG of last gen. There was no other RPG that comes close.

After playing FFXII, I really can't go back to the old school RPGs anymore.


Agreed. I hated the idea of them taking out random battles before the game was released, but after playing the game, random battles just seem...archaic. Contrary to what some people say *cough*pap*cough* I was surprised by just how much strategy was required in the battles. The game didn't play itself, I was constantly overriding commands and changing gambits to fit the situation. I would play that game all over again if it were on the Wii.

Also, I guess it could be GoNintendo getting excited...but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii got a piece of FFXIII, especially if the DS gets a game.


Anybody who thinks the game plays itself is a complete moron.  No matter how well the gambits are set up, they will never, EVER, cover every single possible situation.  Heck, even the best gambit set ups don't even cover 10% of the possible situations.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 20, 2007, 05:18:56 AM
Well Pittboi, you can add one sure thing about your theory...FFXIII is NOT going to be a PS3 exclusive
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2007, 05:48:23 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Well Pittboi, you can add one sure thing about your theory...FFXIII is NOT going to be a PS3 exclusive

Isnt this the exact some story in the original post minus the use of the picture? All that was added was the mentioning of Toriyama confirming it, but no actual quote or source.

Also some SE exec. came out and said that "If you are a SquareEnix/Nintendo fan, you should be sure to check out the Square Garden (event) this May." So expect the missing games that were in those bubbles to hopefully be filled in.  
Title: RE:Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 20, 2007, 06:07:57 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
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Originally posted by: pap64
Well Pittboi, you can add one sure thing about your theory...FFXIII is NOT going to be a PS3 exclusive

Isnt this the exact some story in the original post minus the use of the picture? All that was added was the mentioning of Toriyama confirming it, but no actual quote or source.

Also some SE exec. came out and said that "If you are a SquareEnix/Nintendo fan, you should be sure to check out the Square Garden (event) this May." So expect the missing games that were in those bubbles to hopefully be filled in.


Well, I admit I am confused as hell right now...

Square has already confirmed that the FFXIII project is going to be something like the Compilation of FFVII set, which spawns a lot of console releases, including cel phones.

However, this news story seems to be talking about the FIRST FFXIII game, ie the main game, the first FF game shown off for the PS3.

So this sort of makes the game exclusive, but at the same time, not exclusive...

Crap, I am confused.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii (Speculation)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 20, 2007, 08:44:45 AM
FF XIII: Buffalo Wings for Wii.