Post by: couchmonkey on April 16, 2007, 05:41:01 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 16, 2007, 06:52:57 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 16, 2007, 08:28:40 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 16, 2007, 08:33:11 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 16, 2007, 08:33:26 AM
Bill is rubbing off on me.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 16, 2007, 10:29:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
I've never understood anime, and probably never will. Frankly, I'm glad I don't. It's meant for pedos, after all.
Ouch...
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 16, 2007, 11:19:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
I've never understood anime, and probably never will. Frankly, I'm glad I don't. It's meant for pedos, after all.
Ouch...
Is that a confession?
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 16, 2007, 11:27:50 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 16, 2007, 11:46:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I'd say shoehorning me into just one category of sexual deviancy would be unjustly exaggerated and grossly inaccurate...
Bill, that's a great comeback.
Yeah, I was joking. However, I wasn't joking about the not understanding anime. Whenever I try to watch any of it, I end up thinking "Wait, what the hell is going on?". I'm a Sci-Fi guy, what can I say?.
Post by: Caliban on April 16, 2007, 04:19:56 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 16, 2007, 08:23:54 PM
A rule of anime is "There's always time for drama". There may be a missile flying towards your face or a badguy dashing for the "destroy the whole world" button but that's no reason not to have a discussion with some other character about who's to blame for the death of your parents while having a few flashbacks about your miserable childhood. Fortunately missiles and badguys know this rule so they will conveniently wait until the drama is over before continuing their work.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 16, 2007, 11:08:54 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 16, 2007, 11:09:01 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 17, 2007, 04:52:10 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 17, 2007, 09:36:27 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Unfortunately it often ends up full of drama.
A rule of anime is "There's always time for drama". There may be a missile flying towards your face or a badguy dashing for the "destroy the whole world" button but that's no reason not to have a discussion with some other character about who's to blame for the death of your parents while having a few flashbacks about your miserable childhood. Fortunately missiles and badguys know this rule so they will conveniently wait until the drama is over before continuing their work.
That's exactly what I don't like about anime. There's just way too much drama.
And I hate the idea of Gundams. If I had the funds to build a giant war machine, I'd cover it with guns and armor the hell out of it. Sort of like Titans from Warhammer 40k. It sure wouldn't be humanoid, or fly. And the pilots would be connected throuugh their nerve system to the machine, so there's no need to waste time pressing buttons.
And people flying without a jetpack/shooting fireballs out of their hands with no magic or anything, that's just wierd and overdone since DBZ.
And the guys sometimes look like chicks. No matter how you cut it, that's just wrong. There should be no excuse for that.
And psychic chicks as sidekicks/main characters who constantly are having emotional issues. That's just so lame.
And adult characters looking like kids, that's just wrong.
And I think I'll stop there. I don't want to make more enemies then I already have...
Post by: ShyGuy on April 17, 2007, 10:38:06 AM
Post by: wandering on April 17, 2007, 11:52:07 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 17, 2007, 12:11:42 PM
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Originally posted by: wandering
Watch Cowboy Bebop. Everybody likes Cowboy Bebop.
I didn't.
Does that make me a freak?
Post by: wandering on April 17, 2007, 12:16:36 PM
Hmm. This is a tough case.
....I suppose there's always Miyazaki.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 17, 2007, 12:22:45 PM
I tend to like anime with either deeper stories (Mushishi, Kanon, Miyazaki) or random, unique comedy (Suzumiya Haruhi, Hayate the Combat Butler, Sumomomo)...
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 17, 2007, 01:32:32 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 17, 2007, 02:06:48 PM
Post by: Caliban on April 17, 2007, 04:13:15 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Unfortunately it often ends up full of drama.
So does tv scifi, and lots of it too.
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 17, 2007, 05:17:46 PM
QuoteNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! T_T
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I hate Gundam (and pretty much all mechas in general besides Full Metal Panic)
almost all Gundam series are awesome, and so are a lot of mecha series!
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 18, 2007, 07:59:46 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 18, 2007, 08:45:27 AM
Quotetrue, but the main characters are! Especially the girls! Eureka X3 (and Ryoko from Zegapain too X3)
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Sorry, robots just aren't cute... =3
Post by: ShyGuy on April 18, 2007, 08:46:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Sorry, robots just aren't cute... =3
YOU MAKE CHIBI ROBO FEEL BAD ABOUT HIS APPEARANCE.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 18, 2007, 08:55:36 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 18, 2007, 09:01:19 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
KOS-MOS kicks your ass
Add this to the list: I loathe androids above all. If I built a robot, it sure as hell wouldn't look like a chick, or any human. It would be a hulking armored engine of destruction, bipedal with the basic humanoid shape (legs, arms, head) but without the useless stuff (like a face). Screw personality, slave the thing to me and give it just enough AI so if I point and say "Kill", everything in that general direction dies.
Sure it wouldn't be pretty, but when the crap hits the fan, I'd rather have a beast of a machine covered with guns on my side then some half-naked robot chick.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 18, 2007, 09:05:32 AM
Post by: Ceric on April 18, 2007, 09:26:07 AM
Though what is the background from?
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 18, 2007, 10:19:32 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 18, 2007, 10:36:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Sumomomo Momomo! =D
...And what does that mean when translated?
Post by: Caliban on April 18, 2007, 12:17:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
It would be a hulking armored engine of destruction, bipedal with the basic humanoid shape (legs, arms, head) but without the useless stuff (like a face). Screw personality, slave the thing to me and give it just enough AI so if I point and say "Kill", everything in that general direction dies.
Heroic Age, destruction at a larger scale than I have yet to see...wait, can the Nodoss even be considered mechas?
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 18, 2007, 12:28:47 PM
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Heroic Age, destruction at a larger scale than I have yet to see...wait, can the Nodoss even be considered mechas?
I wasn't actually talking about a mech, more along the lines of something roughly seven feet tall that could be attached to squads to provide fire support.
However, it sounds interesting. Elaborate.
Edit: There was one piece of anime-styled art I remember seeing on a forum somewhere, but I forget where or what it was from. It wasat night on a skyscraper in a huge city. Two characters were shown, one was a woman in body armor, with only her face exposed, though she was wearing something on her head licke a comm system or headband. The other was a fully-armored figure in similar armor, except it was wearing a helmet that vaguely looked like the Tau Commander's from DOW, appeared to be a male and was roughly 150% her size.
Also, that guy had a gun that looked like it was modeled off of a sniper rifle, but had a belt-feed with bullets that looked like tank shells. And I love overkill.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 18, 2007, 02:12:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Sumomomo Momomo! =D
...And what does that mean when translated?
Well literally speaking it'd be "Sumomo mo Momo mo," which is basically "Plums too, Peaches too"...Pretty odd, really!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 18, 2007, 02:32:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Well literally speaking it'd be "Sumomo mo Momo mo," which is basically "Plums too, Peaches too"...Pretty odd, really!
...Uh. What?
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 18, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
KOS-MOS kicks your ass
Add this to the list: I loathe androids above all. If I built a robot, it sure as hell wouldn't look like a chick, or any human. It would be a hulking armored engine of destruction, bipedal with the basic humanoid shape (legs, arms, head) but without the useless stuff (like a face). Screw personality, slave the thing to me and give it just enough AI so if I point and say "Kill", everything in that general direction dies.
Sure it wouldn't be pretty, but when the crap hits the fan, I'd rather have a beast of a machine covered with guns on my side then some half-naked robot chick.
PREACH IT, BROTHA!
I so utterly despise the female robot paradigm. Maybe it was a cute idea once, but it has been utterly beat to death.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 18, 2007, 03:25:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Well KOS-MOS isn't cute, so my point is only more supported... =3
you aren't cute, so neener-neener!
Post by: wandering on April 18, 2007, 03:31:56 PM
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Add this to the list: I loathe androids above all. If I built a robot, it sure as hell wouldn't look like a chick, or any human. It would be a hulking armored engine of destruction, bipedal with the basic humanoid shape (legs, arms, head) but without the useless stuff (like a face).
See, now, if I ever built a killbot, it may have a face, but it definitely wouldn't have legs. I remember, on Battlebots, someone built this amazing mechanical spider - it moved quickly and beautifully. And it got creamed by a set of wheels with a tacked-on hammer. No matter how good you manage to make a machine with legs - I'm pretty sure you'd be able to make one with tracks or wheels that is faster, more maneuverable, and more stable.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 18, 2007, 03:36:24 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 18, 2007, 04:16:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Well literally speaking it'd be "Sumomo mo Momo mo," which is basically "Plums too, Peaches too"...Pretty odd, really!
...Uh. What?
I think it's just a pun off of the female protagonist's name (Momoko, or Momo for short)...
Post by: Caliban on April 18, 2007, 04:54:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Heroic Age, destruction at a larger scale than I have yet to see...wait, can the Nodoss even be considered mechas?
I wasn't actually talking about a mech, more along the lines of something roughly seven feet tall that could be attached to squads to provide fire support.
However, it sounds interesting. Elaborate.
Well http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7627 has a sort description of what it is like, but to get a better understanding of it I would suggest watching the first and 2nd episodes either from Youtube or Animesuki.
Basically what I meant by destruction at a larger scale was the destruction of several planet sized ships by one single entity, and that was just in the first 2 episodes that I watched. Obviously there's going to be some drama, but I don't think it is going to be as boring as Gundam is.
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 18, 2007, 05:13:41 PM
QuoteGundam is not boring! >=( (unless you're refering to GSD, G-Savior or GGundam.... in such case I'll let it slide...)
Originally posted by: CalibanQuote
Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Heroic Age, destruction at a larger scale than I have yet to see...wait, can the Nodoss even be considered mechas?
I wasn't actually talking about a mech, more along the lines of something roughly seven feet tall that could be attached to squads to provide fire support.
However, it sounds interesting. Elaborate.
Well http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7627 has a sort description of what it is like, but to get a better understanding of it I would suggest watching the first and 2nd episodes either from Youtube or Animesuki.
Basically what I meant by destruction at a larger scale was the destruction of several planet sized ships by one single entity, and that was just in the first 2 episodes that I watched. Obviously there's going to be some drama, but I don't think it is going to be as boring as Gundam is.
about Heroic Age.... Xebec is the studio behind it, Hisashi Hirai's boring character designs, angela opening, "Gold Race"..... smells a lot like Soukyuu no Fafner! (which was awesome
)maybe it's a not-too-connected sequel (same/alternate universe)?
Post by: Arbok on April 18, 2007, 05:25:39 PM
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Originally posted by: wandering
No matter how good you manage to make a machine with legs - I'm pretty sure you'd be able to make one with tracks or wheels that is faster, more maneuverable, and more stable.
As long as it doesn't have to go up stares...
Post by: wandering on April 18, 2007, 06:23:15 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on April 18, 2007, 06:28:10 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 18, 2007, 06:55:56 PM
Post by: Caliban on April 18, 2007, 07:22:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Gundam is not boring! >=( (unless you're refering to GSD, G-Savior or GGundam.... in such case I'll let it slide...)
about Heroic Age.... Xebec is the studio behind it, Hisashi Hirai's boring character designs, angela opening, "Gold Race"..... smells a lot like Soukyuu no Fafner! (which was awesome
maybe it's a not-too-connected sequel (same/alternate universe)?
Yeah the character designs aren't that interesting except for Belcross and even then it looks very similar to EVA-01, the opening song is "meh" in my book, I never watched Fafner so I wouldn't know if there's any comparison. Rarely do I watch an anime with mechas because they usually don't grab my attention, but since Heroic Age had some big explosions, and the Golden Tribe woo'd me, and the Nodoss (IMO) in no way can be considered mechas, so I liked it.
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Well literally speaking it'd be "Sumomo mo Momo mo," which is basically "Plums too, Peaches too"...Pretty odd, really!
Boy do I have a dirty mind..."Breasts too, Pussies too"...yup that's my ero-translation for sure uh huh.
Post by: KDR_11k on April 19, 2007, 05:47:07 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 19, 2007, 02:02:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
PREACH IT, BROTHA!
I so utterly despise the female robot paradigm. Maybe it was a cute idea once, but it has been utterly beat to death.
Woot! someone who sees things my way!
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Originally posted by: wandering
See, now, if I ever built a killbot, it may have a face, but it definitely wouldn't have legs. I remember, on Battlebots, someone built this amazing mechanical spider - it moved quickly and beautifully. And it got creamed by a set of wheels with a tacked-on hammer. No matter how good you manage to make a machine with legs - I'm pretty sure you'd be able to make one with tracks or wheels that is faster, more maneuverable, and more stable.
True, tracks do have many advantages, but the analogy you're using isn't 100% applicable. The difference was that in Battlebots, the treaded robot had a dedicated weapon, the spider did not. My idea was for when motors and energy systems had advanced so that powered armor is possible, and it's only a few steps away from creating an automaton. Treads are superior for most things, but they have the inherent weakness that they can topple over if their center of balance is too high, and fixed drive systems have the weakness that they most often cannot compensate well for difficult terrain unless they have a large base, making it ill-suited for fitting in tight areas as found in close-combat or interiors. However, for everything else like tanks, treads all the way.
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Well http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7627 has a sort description of what it is like, but to get a better understanding of it I would suggest watching the first and 2nd episodes either from Youtube or Animesuki.
Basically what I meant by destruction at a larger scale was the destruction of several planet sized ships by one single entity, and that was just in the first 2 episodes that I watched. Obviously there's going to be some drama, but I don't think it is going to be as boring as Gundam is.
I'll look into it. And thanks for pointing to YouTube instead of asking me to download a 1-gig torrent just to try it out.
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Legs get in the way of you having sex with your sexbot!
Call me xenophobic, but having sex with something that isn't human doesn't appeal to me.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 19, 2007, 03:02:17 PM
Let's see...Automatonophobia is fear of robots, and Genophobia is fear of sex...Soooooo, Automatonogenophobia?
Post by: Smoke39 on April 19, 2007, 03:22:59 PM
Post by: nickmitch on April 19, 2007, 03:50:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Athrun ZalaQuoteGundam is not boring! >=( (unless you're refering to GSD, G-Savior or GGundam.... in such case I'll let it slide...)
Originally posted by: CalibanQuote
Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Heroic Age, destruction at a larger scale than I have yet to see...wait, can the Nodoss even be considered mechas?
I wasn't actually talking about a mech, more along the lines of something roughly seven feet tall that could be attached to squads to provide fire support.
However, it sounds interesting. Elaborate.
Well http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7627 has a sort description of what it is like, but to get a better understanding of it I would suggest watching the first and 2nd episodes either from Youtube or Animesuki.
Basically what I meant by destruction at a larger scale was the destruction of several planet sized ships by one single entity, and that was just in the first 2 episodes that I watched. Obviously there's going to be some drama, but I don't think it is going to be as boring as Gundam is.
about Heroic Age.... Xebec is the studio behind it, Hisashi Hirai's boring character designs, angela opening, "Gold Race"..... smells a lot like Soukyuu no Fafner! (which was awesome
maybe it's a not-too-connected sequel (same/alternate universe)?
GGundam kicked ass. You suck.
Post by: Caliban on April 19, 2007, 04:00:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
I'll look into it. And thanks for pointing to YouTube instead of asking me to download a 1-gig torrent just to try it out.
Huh?! Each episode is only 175MB, and so far they only subtitled 3.
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 19, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
Quotelol, it never did
Originally posted by: TVmanQuote
Originally posted by: Athrun ZalaQuoteGundam is not boring! >=( (unless you're refering to GSD, G-Savior or GGundam.... in such case I'll let it slide...)
Originally posted by: CalibanQuote
Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Heroic Age, destruction at a larger scale than I have yet to see...wait, can the Nodoss even be considered mechas?
I wasn't actually talking about a mech, more along the lines of something roughly seven feet tall that could be attached to squads to provide fire support.
However, it sounds interesting. Elaborate.
Well http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7627 has a sort description of what it is like, but to get a better understanding of it I would suggest watching the first and 2nd episodes either from Youtube or Animesuki.
Basically what I meant by destruction at a larger scale was the destruction of several planet sized ships by one single entity, and that was just in the first 2 episodes that I watched. Obviously there's going to be some drama, but I don't think it is going to be as boring as Gundam is.
about Heroic Age.... Xebec is the studio behind it, Hisashi Hirai's boring character designs, angela opening, "Gold Race"..... smells a lot like Soukyuu no Fafner! (which was awesome
maybe it's a not-too-connected sequel (same/alternate universe)?
GGundam kicked ass. You suck.
not even when compared with the other AUs....
Post by: KDR_11k on April 20, 2007, 08:55:50 AM
Post by: Ceric on April 20, 2007, 03:29:56 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on April 20, 2007, 04:04:46 PM
