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Title: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: WindyMan on April 13, 2007, 07:13:04 PM
Capcom is going to make the one of the greatest games ever even better.  Includes the official game trailer.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/previewArt.cfm?artid=13327

 Hey Capcom, let's have a talk.  You're notorious for porting and re-releasing games on other platforms, but this is your first stab at the Wii.  Allow us to help you out on this one.    


You know what what makes for a good Wii port?  Certainly, it helps to start with Resident Evil 4, a game we gave two 10-out-of-10 reviews.  Next, you should be to make sure it supports progressive scan and true 16:9 widescreen.  Adding in the 10 or so hours of extra content that came with a previous PS2 version is another step towards making the perfect port.  Oh, and let's not forget to actually make the game look like it's on a console more powerful than the GameCube by improving the graphical quality.  You got that, Capcom?    


Oh ... what's that?  You're going to do all of that for Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, and give us Wii pointer controls to shoot stuff with?  Are you sure this is just a port?    



 The official Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition trailer

   


If everything comes together, Resident Evil 4 on the Wii could just be the definitive version.  We already know how amazing the original version is.  (It's one of the GameCube's greatest, you know.)  But playing through that 20-hour roller coaster ride by pointing and shooting with the Wii remote?  It seems like the Wii and RE4 are the perfect couple.  Instead of using an analog stick to aim a laser-pointed weapon as was with the GC and PS2 versions, you point the remote at the screen and use a targeting reticule as your guide.  Instead of pointing the remote off to the side of the screen to rotate the view, that analog stick will take care of that instead.  The shaky hands that were Leon's will now be your own.    


Wii controls will also bring other changes.  As you can see in the trailer, the quick-reaction cut scenes that were just button presses before are now Wii motion controls.  So are some of the events during gameplay, such as rotating the remote to turn a crank.  A remote swipe can control your knife, though there's also a button that can do it if you're not the type that likes to waggle.    


Let's not forget about that PS2 bonus content that Wii owners will be getting.  The Assignment Ada game, made available to those that have completed the main adventure, is another game unto itself.  You play through the game as Ada Wong, going through the same locales as Leon did, only at a different time ... and for a different reason.  Her missions give you a new perspective on the game's story, and more importantly, boost the game's replay value through the roof.    


Oh, Capcom.  Is there anything you can do to make this “port" any better?  What's that?  You're going to sell it at an MSRP of $29.99!?  That offer sounds too good to pass up, even for those that already have the GameCube version.  We'll need to wait until June to get our hands on the experience again, though.

Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: WindyMan on April 13, 2007, 07:18:42 PM
I am going to buy this.  I already beat it on the GameCube.  I'm starting to get excited for RE4 again.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 13, 2007, 07:22:07 PM
Ditto...I'm lusting for Wiimote aiming!
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2007, 07:30:38 PM
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Kairon on April 13, 2007, 07:44:48 PM
URGH... so... torn... between finally playing RE with good controls and... having gotten bored of every RE game I've tried to play evar!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 13, 2007, 07:46:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
URGH... so... torn... between finally playing RE with good controls and... having gotten bored of every RE game I've tried to play evar!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


All I have to say is you BETTER buy Super Paper Mario before you get RE for Wii!
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: IceCold on April 13, 2007, 07:49:56 PM
You'd BETTER
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Kairon on April 13, 2007, 08:14:06 PM
Don't worry. I'm getting Bust-A-Move-Bash before I get RE for Wii.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2007, 08:19:10 PM
How awesome is the bolder chase going to be? You can get both arms pumping like you were running!
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2007, 09:11:57 PM
Actually, video showed you wag the Remote left-to-right like it was a soda can.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2007, 09:16:26 PM
I will trick the waggle to my own devious ends!
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Caliban on April 13, 2007, 10:28:49 PM
I think I'm going to skip RE4-Wii, I passed the story mode on RE4-GC and I never felt like trying the other modes that were unlocked, so the added waggles or extra missions/weapons ain't much of an incentive for me to buy it again.

Edit: Unless of course I trade in the GC version, so that I can replay the game in full widescreen glory, yup that's my only bait.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Bloodworth on April 13, 2007, 10:56:13 PM
No RE4 preview is complete without a link to the awesome Japanese trailer: http://www.capcom.co.jp/wii_bio4/
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: sycomonkey on April 13, 2007, 10:56:28 PM
I really didn't like the game when I played it, but I was approaching it expecting it to be a survival horror game like the other RE's, when it is clearly not.  Also, I hated the controls on the Gamecube, the static over-the-shoulder camera made the whole thing extremely awkward and just... bad.

I'm willing to give this a shot, because with Wii controls it becomes more of an action game, and I have a feeling it would be a pretty decent one.  And for $30, you know, it doesn't have to be fantastic.  Just good.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Entroper on April 14, 2007, 01:40:58 AM
My girlfriend already has this for our PS2, and I've never played it.

I think I'm going to buy the Wii edition anyway.  I've never played a RE game for more than 5 minutes, but putting the best one on the Wii and giving it these controls, and for $30, makes a compelling case for me to try RE.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: odifiend on April 14, 2007, 02:37:44 AM
Meh - is anyone else tired of Capcom porting this game?  It was a great game but I've been there, done that and got the T-shirt (order from capcom.com!).  I wish Capcom would stop spitting in my face and calling it rain.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 14, 2007, 05:11:27 AM
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Originally posted by: odifiend
Meh - is anyone else tired of Capcom porting this game?  It was a great game but I've been there, done that and got the T-shirt (order from capcom.com!).  I wish Capcom would stop spitting in my face and calling it rain.


To answer your question, no I don't think so.

Hey "insert name of whoever wrote the report" what exactly did you mean by "make the game look like it's on a console more powerful than the GameCube by improving the graphical quality."
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: TMW on April 14, 2007, 05:36:32 AM
Oh man, I am psyched.  

I played RE4 so many times I was sick of it, but I am definitely getting this.  Its been a while since I've played it, and unlocking the PS2 extras will definitely be worth it.

Also, I freakin love the Japanese trailer.  Its so corny that its awesome.  
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Tansunn on April 14, 2007, 06:01:02 AM
My question is, when you're using a weapon with a scope, will you still aim with the Wiimote or will it use the analog stick again?
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: mantidor on April 14, 2007, 06:19:20 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Actually, video showed you wag the Remote left-to-right like it was a soda can.


urgh really? I missed that the first time I saw it, I hate tacked-on controls like that so much ¬_¬ they should only modified the aiming, the rest is too damn g!mmicky for me.

This is a not-buy for me, and I hate you all for supporting the port-happy faction of the console :P

I do hope we get the cheesy japanese ad, because those "wii would like to play" ads couldn't been more annoying, and that ad is so bad is good.

Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: that Baby guy on April 14, 2007, 06:21:59 AM
I support ports that are cheaper and have extra features.  I think that's not a bad idea to do.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: krillin1986 on April 14, 2007, 07:05:36 AM
Yea, especially for the people who never got a chance to play the original ones (like me!)
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Kairon on April 14, 2007, 07:09:08 AM
I wish PoP:RS was cheaper... /cry

~Carmin e "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Bloodworth on April 14, 2007, 07:41:27 AM
Knowing Ubisoft, I bet it will drop in price in five weeks.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: KDR_11k on April 14, 2007, 08:48:44 AM
gh really? I missed that the first time I saw it, I hate tacked-on controls like that so much

Would you rather hammer on the A and B buttons repeatedly?
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 08:55:17 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Actually, video showed you wag the Remote left-to-right like it was a soda can.


urgh really? I missed that the first time I saw it, I hate tacked-on controls like that so much ¬_¬ they should only modified the aiming, the rest is too damn g!mmicky for me.

This is a not-buy for me, and I hate you all for supporting the port-happy faction of the console :P

I do hope we get the cheesy japanese ad, because those "wii would like to play" ads couldn't been more annoying, and that ad is so bad is good.


Everything's an issue with you :p .

And are you saying the "Wii would like to play" ads are annoying or that they could be more annoying?

If what you are saying is that they are annoying, how? They just show people playing the game and having fun. The Mii ads are even better. So what's the deal?
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: planetidiot on April 14, 2007, 09:21:11 AM
They've really outdone themselves.  The $30 price point makes it a no-brainer.  The gimmicky stuff is whatever, gimmicky, but the majority of the remote-aiming gameplay looks fantastic.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Tansunn on April 14, 2007, 09:29:38 AM
Something I noticed in the trailer - in one scene, Ashley's wearing her slut ho alternate costume from the GCN version.  I wonder if they'll only keep the GCN alternates or if they'll add the PS2 ones as well.  Or perhaps some entirely new ones?
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Kairon on April 14, 2007, 09:43:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Knowing Ubisoft, I bet it will drop in price in five weeks.


I'm going to take this advice at face value. See you in five weeks.

*hugs his newly purchased copy of Godfather that he bought with a previously ignored Target Giftcard*

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: The Omen on April 14, 2007, 09:57:28 AM
There are really people who didn't like RE4?  

This is a must own for me...I love the GC version and still play it from time to time.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 10:08:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Tansunn
Something I noticed in the trailer - in one scene, Ashley's wearing her slut ho alternate costume from the GCN version.  I wonder if they'll only keep the GCN alternates or if they'll add the PS2 ones as well.  Or perhaps some entirely new ones?


The PS2 version had the original extra outfits as well as some new ones. Plus, Capcom has said that ALL of the PS2 exclusive extras will be here as well, so I'm guessing that includes the costumes.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Jin-X on April 14, 2007, 10:32:19 AM
I doubt that Capcom upped the graphics but the game will look better to a lot of people for a different reason. By being 16:9 instead of letterboxed you will be getting an extra 100+ lines of resolution that were being wasted on the black bars before. So if you have a widescreen tv (or a SDTV with vertical compression aka 16:9 mode) the game will look a little cleaner and more detailed because it will actually have a slightly higher resolution than the GC version.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 14, 2007, 10:37:28 AM
The only thing that dissapoints me is that those of use with SDTV's will still have to put up with those annoying letterboxes. Widescreen should always be an option, not a forced decision (which is my only complaint about Netflix, they rarely have the Full Screen versions of movies and I have to watch movies with those ugly black bars blocking some of the screen).
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2007, 11:29:51 AM
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Originally posted by: nintendogamecube86
The only thing that dissapoints me is that those of use with SDTV's will still have to put up with those annoying letterboxes. Widescreen should always be an option, not a forced decision (which is my only complaint about Netflix, they rarely have the Full Screen versions of movies and I have to watch movies with those ugly black bars blocking some of the screen).


The funny thing is that even with a widescreen HD TV you still get those black bars at times, unless you have a DVD player that stretches the image (which looks like crap BTW). Personally I don't really mind them, except they are really hard on Plasma TVs, which I have.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Jin-X on April 14, 2007, 12:42:08 PM
Off topic but shame on people that still use "full screen" dvds. The problem is that they use incorrect wording for dvds, Widescreen dvds should be called OAR (original aspect ratio) meaning the way it was shot, so in a way those are the real full screen. Films use different ratios than tvs (mostly 2 different ones).

Full screen dvds = Pan & Scan/cropped into 4x3
Widescreen dvds = Original Aspect Ratio (the way the movie was shot)

Pan & Scan dvds dont really look better because what you are getting in screen size you lose on the formatting and alteration of the picture. I hate full screen dvds, those things shouldn't exist anymore. But a big part of the problem with this lies with movie and consumer electronics industry doing a real sh*tty job in explaining to people the difference between widescreen and full screen. There will always be people that want their screen filled even if it degrades the picture, so all dvd players should have a zoom function that automatically fills the screen (be it 4x3 or 16x9). That would have been better than having 2 separate releases for movies.

Videogames are a different situation since there is no true aspect ratio, so they should have both, but RE4 was a decision made on the gameplay style, I think they thought it was better this way so your peripheral view wasn't as limited.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: mantidor on April 14, 2007, 02:16:13 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Actually, video showed you wag the Remote left-to-right like it was a soda can.


urgh really? I missed that the first time I saw it, I hate tacked-on controls like that so much ¬_¬ they should only modified the aiming, the rest is too damn g!mmicky for me.

This is a not-buy for me, and I hate you all for supporting the port-happy faction of the console :P

I do hope we get the cheesy japanese ad, because those "wii would like to play" ads couldn't been more annoying, and that ad is so bad is good.


Everything's an issue with you :p .

And are you saying the "Wii would like to play" ads are annoying or that they could be more annoying?

If what you are saying is that they are annoying, how? They just show people playing the game and having fun. The Mii ads are even better. So what's the deal?


oh well, my english is far from perfect, but I think I said "coud not" not "could", and that the RE4 japanese ad is good because is really bad and cheesy. I blame the internet, I should had never practiced my english by reading forums and news articles.

The other commercials are simply annoying for me, in spanish they annoy me even more because they say "wii queremos jugar" making the lame wii=we reference dissapear and highlighting that hideous name in all its disgusting glory. They focus too little in what the game is about and too much in how its played, it's like if a NES commercial spend half the time showing someone pressing buttons. Of course I understand completly the reason behind it, but it doesn't make it any less annoying, I haven't even touched a remote and I don't need the concept to be constantly hammered into my head over and over again. I get it, and I get it pretty well.

bah, you made me rant like if it was a big deal when its not, but you asked.


Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 02:35:24 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Quote

Originally posted by: mantidor
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Actually, video showed you wag the Remote left-to-right like it was a soda can.


urgh really? I missed that the first time I saw it, I hate tacked-on controls like that so much ¬_¬ they should only modified the aiming, the rest is too damn g!mmicky for me.

This is a not-buy for me, and I hate you all for supporting the port-happy faction of the console :P

I do hope we get the cheesy japanese ad, because those "wii would like to play" ads couldn't been more annoying, and that ad is so bad is good.


Everything's an issue with you :p .

And are you saying the "Wii would like to play" ads are annoying or that they could be more annoying?

If what you are saying is that they are annoying, how? They just show people playing the game and having fun. The Mii ads are even better. So what's the deal?


oh well, my english is far from perfect, but I think I said "coud not" not "could", and that the RE4 japanese ad is good because is really bad and cheesy. I blame the internet, I should had never practiced my english by reading forums and news articles.

The other commercials are simply annoying for me, in spanish they annoy me even more because they say "wii queremos jugar" making the lame wii=we reference dissapear and highlighting that hideous name in all its disgusting glory. They focus too little in what the game is about and too much in how its played, it's like if a NES commercial spend half the time showing someone pressing buttons. Of course I understand completly the reason behind it, but it doesn't make it any less annoying, I haven't even touched a remote and I don't need the concept to be constantly hammered into my head over and over again. I get it, and I get it pretty well.

bah, you made me rant like if it was a big deal when its not, but you asked.


Its retarded what they did to the Spanish version, but the rest of your complain is silly.

With the Wii, its vital to show how its played. You simply don't get the concept if you either did an epic commercial or just focus on gameplay footage.

But whatever, your issues to deal with.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: ShyGuy on April 15, 2007, 02:38:47 AM
Actually, some widescreen dvds now are adjusted to a 16:9 aspect ratio. Little bit of cropping, little bit of stretching.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Jin-X on April 15, 2007, 06:16:39 AM
Yes there are a very small number of dvds like that, I think Bloodrayne is one of them, but then again, nobody cares about Bloodrayne.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Arbok on April 15, 2007, 07:10:50 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Actually, some widescreen dvds now are adjusted to a 16:9 aspect ratio. Little bit of cropping, little bit of stretching.


Some were filmed that way to begin with too, some of them quite old as well. Akira, for example, was done at a 1.78:1 aspect ratio.  
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: MaryJane on April 15, 2007, 03:30:21 PM
This will be the first game I own for 3 systems (I didn't buy the PS2 version I "borrowed" it and "forgot" to give it back ) since Zelda: A Link To The Past. Of course once I actually by my own Wii I'll have owned it for 4 systems.
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: Mario323 on April 15, 2007, 05:02:17 PM
This article sounds really biased towards buying the game.  I might buy it still, but it sounds really suck-uppy:

"Whats that?  This game is perfect?  Oh yes, it certainly is.  What's that?  It's better than perfect?  ZOMGs!"
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 15, 2007, 05:13:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario323
This article sounds really biased towards buying the game.  I might buy it still, but it sounds really suck-uppy:

"Whats that?  This game is perfect?  Oh yes, it certainly is.  What's that?  It's better than perfect?  ZOMGs!"


How much did you read into it? The first paragraphs were very sarcastic like, but the rest of the article actually applauded the port and mentioned that this could be the definite version to own.

...Unless you were being sarcastic about it.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: IceCold on April 15, 2007, 07:32:24 PM
It's a great game and all, but I'm with mantidor and whoever else on this one - I wouldn't buy it again for Wii, even for Ada's extras. It would just be way too boring.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
OH, I WONDER IF MOTION CONTROLS ARE USED TO THROW EGGS
Title: RE:PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: ShyGuy on April 16, 2007, 05:07:38 AM
I hate it when people borrow stuff and forget to give it back.
Title: RE: PREVIEWS: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 16, 2007, 07:59:41 AM
I just remembered something. Sometime last year Shiggy mentioned that the Wii would get updated versions of GC games at a bargain price.

RE 4 may be the first in a line of bargain priced GC updates.