Post by: Khushrenada on March 30, 2007, 05:55:33 PM
What is the prize?
And as stated, this will be a Prize Mafia game. What is the prize you may be wondering? Well, it's not something that can be measured monitarily but through sentimentality.
As stated, I have formed a partnership with NWR Trivia. The winner or winners of this mafia game will get to take part in creating a round of Podcast Trivia. You get to pick the songs. You get to pick the questions. You could even make a bit of a script talking about the games you chose. You get your name or forum name recognized as the person responsible for the round.
TYP and I look forward to seeing what the results of this will be. We both think it could be a very fun idea and we hope you agree.
Now, I should state that if you want to play the mafia game but don't want the prize, that's fine. If you are the winner or a winner, you can let me know then if you want to make a round of podcast trivia or not.
When is the mafia game?
So, for now, I am going to leave this thread open for sign-ups. Sign-ups will close Saturday April 7, 2007. I am shooting for April 9 as the starting day for the game.
Over the next couple days, I will let you know what the roles and rules are and what the theme would be. But for now, I just thought I would get the ball rolling for the next game since I know there are a few people who will sign-up right away before reading the rules.
Podcast Trivia Rules
Just in case you are wondering what the rules are for making a podcast trivia game, TYP has provided me with the following guidelines:
1) All games and songs must be found on a Nintendo platform. (Wii Virtual Console and Nintendo arcade games are valid choices.
2) All songs picked for a game must be found in the game as heard. No rearrangements, remixes, etc. (PSX rearrangements found in a SNES->PSX port are not valid. Remixes of songs in a series that are found in the Nintendo platform game are perfectly acceptable.)
3) Three songs per game.
4) No licensed music.
5) Unless agreed upon otherwise, an episode should be five games long.
I (TYP) offer to help find/pick songs for the winner's podcast, and help coordinate if there is collaboration among multiple winners. Potential winners should understand that we may not be able to find (a good enough version of) some songs and should be flexible. Of course, NWR has the final say on what can/cannot be used and may bend the guidelines above as it sees fit.
There you have it. This could turn out to be a more cutthroat game now that there is a prize available instead of just playing for personal honor.
As always, new people are welcome to join and I am happy to explain the rules to you.
Post by: Khushrenada on March 30, 2007, 05:56:32 PM
So, I've been trying to figure out what theme would be best to encapsulate the trivia aspect. I thought about a Kirby theme in honor of TYP butit just didn't seem right. Plus, trivia covers many games. So, in the end I decided to have a theme that encompasses many ganes. And that theme is......
Nintendo Villains/Bosses. Yes, choose any Nintendo villain/boss you would like to emulate for this game. I think it will be interesting to see which badguy is the baddest of them of all. I would prefer that a major villain was chosen. i.e. Marx instead if Waddle Dee. (A Kirby reference). But, I know many of you prefer to use the more obscure characters. Regardless, the only criteria will be that everyone chooses or is assigned a Nintendo villain. So, Dr. Robotnik would not work but Bowser would.
Remember, first come, first serve. So grab your favorite villain now.
The Rules
How to Play. (If you are familiar with the mafia games already, skip to the gameplay reminders section)
Playing mafia can be summerized in one word: Survive! As long as you are still alive in the game, chances are you are winning.
Of course, it is a bit more complicated than that. You should remember that there are two sides to a mafia game. You are either a part of the townie side or the mafia side. If you belong to one side, you are looking to eliminate the rival side. How do you kill players.
Everyday there is a vote to choose one person to eliminate from the game. The person with the most votes at the end of the day is killed. Both sides can vote during the day, mafia and townies. However, after the day vote, there is a night action period. During this time, the mafia can send in a hit for whichever person they choose. The townies have no say in the matter. The next day or turn, the townies learn who the mafia killed and the game repeats until one side is left.
The victory conditions are a bit different for either side. For the townies to win, every mafia member must be eliminated. For the mafia to win, they just need to equal the number of townies left. So, if there are 3 mafia members left and 3 townies, the game is over and the mafia wins. The reason for this is that mafia members are supposed to be so powerful as to overwhelm the townies one-on-one. Obviously, if the townie number is lower than the number of mafia remaining, the mafia wins. A tie is the minimum win condition for the mafia.
It should be noted that there may be a couple roles that don't fit into either catagory (mafia or townie) and have a different win condition. These roles most also be eliminated before one side can claim victory.
Finally, since it is a prize edition, this should be stated clearly. If the townies won, not every townie would get the prize. Only those townies who are alive at the end of the game would get to claim the prize. It is just the same as any other mafia game where only townies alive at the end get to count a victory. With the mafia, you can count a victory even if you are dead so long as the rest of the mafia is able to win. However, because of the prize being involved, only the mafia members still alive at the end of the game would be eligible for the prize.
Voting Rules
Everyday, a new thread will be created for each day the game lasts. In this thread, you can cast a vote for whomever you want. To do so, simply type in bold "VOTE (Name)" where name is the person you are voting for. You can only vote for one person so votes for different people will not be counted. If you wish to change your vote at anytime, simply edit your message and erase the vote. There will be a deadline each day for when votes can be cast. Once the deadline is reached, all votes are binding. If you change or edit a vote after the deadline, the new vote will not be counted and the old vote will remain as your choice instead.
Gameplay Reminders
I am going to stick with the long voting hours I introduced in Mafia 10. So, basically, the voting thread will be open for 21-22 hours. This gives everyone in all time zones a fair chance to play.
Breaking voting ties.
If there is a tie at the end of the day's vote, I will leave the thread open a bit past the deadline for a length of time afterwards. I will list then how much extra time will be given as circumstances may vary for me. No more than half an hour. During this extra time, any player can change their vote if they wish. As well, any player who hadn't voted that day may then cast a vote. The first vote that breaks the tie ends the voting. The person with the most votes will then be killed.
If however, the remaining time has expired and the vote is still tied, the players who are tied are all killed. However, those players get to choose one person who voted for them to die with them. Thus, you may want to avoid ties.
Revealing someone's role after you are out of the game.
If you are eliminated and then give away someone's role, (i.e. Mafia member reveals a townie player's identity or townie reveals a mafia player's identity) the team that was hurt by the information gets to immediately kill 3 people of their choosing in retalition. Do ont think you can create a loophole of this rule by hurting someone on your own team (i.e. Mafia member reveals another mafia member's identity). In this case, you are stupid.
Giving out information.
If you wish to tell the players of the game a message, you have a couple of legal channels to do so. One, you can post this information in the voting thread or two you can send a private message to players. You can not, however, create another account and use it to hide your identity while giving out information. If you want to say something, you must accept the responsibility of being known as saying it.
That should about cover the rules for playing the game. If there is something you are still confused about or something I didn't mention that you think should be covered, you can let me know by sending me a message or just posting it in this thread. Thank you.
THE ROLES
Townie Roles
The Private Investigator
Of course. The most standard of all townie roles. With this role, someone will have the ability to investigate one player each day and learn their role. However, the charming leader and the identity thief will be revealed as townies to him.
The Mad Scientist
This is a new role, so pay attention 007. The mad scientist can bring back any player who has died. The person brought back will only last the day however. The dead person can vote and speak his mind on anything he wants about the game. However, if the dead person had a role, he will not get to use it. Interestingly, the dead person can be voted for again. Nothing like digging someone up, resurrecting them and then killing them again. And the mad scientist can only use this ability twice and can only bring back one person per day.
The Chivalrous Villain
The honour among theives. You know how there's always this one villain who could have killed the hero many times over but doesn't becuase he wants to fight the hero one-on-one in a duel? Well, that's this dude's problem. He wants to kill the mafia members but he fears killing an innocent or two along the way. Yes, the chivalrous villain is a fancy name for the vigilante. The chivalrous villain can send a hit out any night on person. However, if the chivalrous villain kills an innocent, he will do the honourable thing and kill himself also.
The Tough Guy
The tough guy acts big and looks tough but he's really just a dirty fighter. The tough guy has the ability to protect one person during the night. He does this by hiding in the shadows. Then, if someone tries to kill the person the tough guy is protecting, the tough guy comes out from the shadows and kills that person instead. Of course, the tough guy can't protect himself if confronted and will die when a hit is put on him or if he is voted out.
The Stoolie
The stoolie can't help but squeal. It makes him feel big. Everyday, the stoolie can send me, the narrator, a message that will be broadcast to everyone. Yeah, way to go big man.
The Back-Up
The back-up takes the classic doctor role. He can choose to protect someone from the day's vote or to keep someone safe from the night's actions. He can not, however, protect himself.
The Rogues
Rogues is just a cooler name for townies.
The Mafia Roles
The Charming Leader
The charming leader is the godfather role. The charming leader is the head of the mafia and has gathered this motley crew by his charismatic charms. He is the one who ultimately decides who the mafia will kill each night. In addition, he will give me the name of the mafia member performing the hit. One bonus to being the charming leader is the fact that if he is investigated by the Private Investigator/cop, his identity will be given as a townie. After all, you never realize the danger of the charming leader until it is too late.
The Corrupted Cop
The corrupted cop is the mafia's inside man. He can investigate players roles just like the P.I./cop giving them information they need to hit crucial townie roles. The corrupted cop only gets to investigate on odd days.
The Muscle
Sometimes it isn't always neccessary to kill to help the mafia. Sometimes, you just have to intimidate another person. Never play an ace if a two will do, kid. The muscle can be used to nullify someone's role for a day. He will tell me which person he wants to intimidate for that day and that player will be unable to use their role for the day and night. So, if he intimidates the chivalrous villain for instance, the chivalrous villain can not make a hit that day and acts as a normal townie. Interestingly, the muscle can only use his ability on even days.
The Seductress
O foul temptress, who can resist thee? The seductress has the ability to make anyone fall under her spell and join the mafia. However, she can only use this ability every 3rd night for the mafia. It takes quite a few drinks to get someone completely under her spell. The charming leader must decide whether he wants to make a hit that night or a recruitment by the seductress. If he chooses not to recruit, he must wait another 3 turns before getting the chance to recruit again. If he chooses to recruit, the seductress must let me know who is being seduced.
The Brains Pay attention here. This is an original role
The genius of the group. He may not be the stongest, prettiest or most charismatic but there is no denying his brilliance. He just might be the most egotistical of the group also. He considers himself above all these lowly people. He wants everyone to recognize and acknowledge the greatness of his master plan.
To show how everything has been accounted for and all the peices are falling into place, the brains will send me the name of the person he believes will be voted out the next day. He must send me this guess before the day's vote begins. If the brains is correct, he will get that person's role. So, if the person with the stoolie role was the person who was voted out and the brains correctly picked that person as being the one who would be killed, the brains then gets to use the stoolie role.
Some more information on the brains role:
It should be noted that if the person's role was just a rogue/townie, that does not mean the brains becomes a rogue/townie. It just means that he doesn't get any new abilities.
If the person voted out was the chivalrous villain, the brains would not be able to use this role. It's alliegence and instructions are contrary to the brains role.
Also, if the brains predicts someone in his mafia will be voted for and is correct, he would get that role. So, if he guessed the charming leader was going to be voted for and was right, he would get the charming leader's role and all its benefits.
Other Roles
The Identity Thief
The identity thief can choose any person in the game to be killed. The role of the person they have killed becomes the role of the identity thief. So, if it is a mafia role, the identity thief would become part of the mafia and have that role. If the identity thief killed a rogue/townie, then he would just become a rogue/townie. The identity thief becomes whatever role he gets from his victim.
One other thing to note. The Identity Thief doesn't have to use his role and he doesn't have to be killed by either the townies or mafia for them to win. But the Identity Thief can not claim any victory because he is not affliated with any side. So, if the Identity Thief wants to win, he needs to use the role at some point and join a side.
Let me put it this way. If it came down to 5 townies and 5 mafia and the Identity Thief, the mafia would win. Using the Identity Thief role would have no bearing at that point. If it was used, the roles would still end up being 5 towines and 5 mafia left. The Identity Thief would just end up joining one side.
The Slasher
Oh no! A killer on the loose. The Slasher has the ability to kill anyone he wants each night. However, in order for the Slasher to win, he must kill everyone and be the last man standing. In order for the townies or mafia to win, the Slasher must be dead.
Post by: Khushrenada on March 30, 2007, 05:56:59 PM
Wandering (Wario)
Shyguy (ShyGuy)
TVMan (StarMan Deluxe)
Vudu (Fawful)
Stevey (Ganondorf)
Oohhboy
MaryJane
Pittbboi (Medusa)
Zach (DK)
Dasmos (Mother Brain)
Shift Key (Metroid)
Sir_Stabbalot (Dark Space Pirate Commando)
Sessha (Belome)
Spak-Spang (Iggy Koopa)
Crimm
NuclearSpeed
18 Days
MysticGohan
Thatguy (Croco)
S-U-P-E-R (Sturm)
Mantidor (Majora's Mask)
Garnee (Tom Nook)
Athrun Zala (Master Hand)
Pale
24 people have signed up so far.
Post by: wandering on March 30, 2007, 06:52:26 PM
edit: but I'm not sure I'll accept the prize if I win.
Post by: ShyGuy on March 30, 2007, 07:14:54 PM
Post by: nickmitch on March 31, 2007, 03:36:34 AM
Post by: vudu on March 31, 2007, 05:57:50 AM
EDIT: I will be Tatanga the Mysterious Spaceman.
Post by: stevey on March 31, 2007, 08:43:51 AM
Post by: oohhboy on March 31, 2007, 09:23:24 AM
Post by: MaryJane on March 31, 2007, 10:08:18 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 31, 2007, 10:26:48 AM
Post by: Khushrenada on March 31, 2007, 11:49:45 AM
As stated in the rules, if you don't want the prize, that's fine. If you want to give it to someone else, you can. It's up to you. The only thing is that there is no replacement for the prize. So, if you don't want it, you don't get anything else except the satisfaction of your win in the game.
Post by: Zach on March 31, 2007, 02:27:07 PM
Post by: Dasmos on March 31, 2007, 03:21:30 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on March 31, 2007, 05:03:18 PM
EDIT: Just thought I'd point out the latest update. The theme for this mafia has been revealed. It is Nintendo Villains. Details can be found on the second post.
Post by: Dasmos on March 31, 2007, 06:19:57 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on March 31, 2007, 06:25:12 PM
Post by: Zach on March 31, 2007, 06:31:15 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on March 31, 2007, 06:41:16 PM
Now, in a case like Smithy from Super Mario RPG, I would allow that. Although Smithy may be owned by Square, he has never appeared in another game, the game was only on a Nintendo console and the game was a Mario game so it defintely had a Nintendo influence. So, you can get leeway that way.
I'm going to try to not be too picky about it becuase really this is for you to get some more fun out of the game. So, if Dasmos is insistent on Captain Blue, I'll let him use it. I would just prefer everyone try to work in the parameters I've given. It wiil help me with the story when it's characters I readily recognize and can make something up about. That's all.
Post by: wandering on March 31, 2007, 07:00:18 PM
Post by: Zach on March 31, 2007, 07:39:23 PM
Post by: stevey on April 01, 2007, 02:44:45 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2007, 02:58:58 PM
Post by: Dasmos on April 01, 2007, 04:08:05 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2007, 05:20:56 PM
EDIT: Gameplay rules have now been added.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 01, 2007, 07:25:08 PM
Post by: Shift Key on April 01, 2007, 09:36:15 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 02, 2007, 09:21:56 AM
Post by: Sessha on April 03, 2007, 03:44:58 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 03, 2007, 11:06:34 AM
Spak-Spang is Iggy Koopa
Post by: Crimm on April 03, 2007, 03:41:08 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on April 03, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
And don't worry Sessha. I had not been around long when I played my first mafia game. As I said, anyone is welcome.
Unfortunately, I ended up busier than expected today and yesterday and I was not able to post the townie roles. However, that oversight will be corrected later tonight and I will also post the mafia roles.
EDIT: Actually, I'll change that to tomorrow morning. I have an awful headache and am just going to bed. Bloodworth's departure has done a real number on me.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 04, 2007, 05:26:07 AM
Post by: Zach on April 04, 2007, 06:48:52 AM
Post by: vudu on April 04, 2007, 07:57:24 AM
I HAVE FURY!
EDIT: So yeah ...
QuoteI've read this three times and I can't for the life of me figure out what's different about this role than normally. Unless you're just trying to be funny, in which case your humor was lost on me.
Rogues is just a cooler name for townies. For this game, though, I have decided to something different and allow the rogues/townies to vote during the day. We'll see how that turns out.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 04, 2007, 09:32:46 AM
A DARK SPACE PIRATE COMMANDO!!!
EDIT: I got my avatar switched to fit my character's evilness.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 04, 2007, 01:41:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: vudu
EDIT: So yeah ...QuoteI've read this three times and I can't for the life of me figure out what's different about this role than normally. Unless you're just trying to be funny, in which case your humor was lost on me.
Rogues is just a cooler name for townies. For this game, though, I have decided to something different and allow the rogues/townies to vote during the day. We'll see how that turns out.
Yeah, that was just a joke. Sorry it confused you. All townies have ever done is vote.
To Zach: Interesting. But the answer is no. Such a thing could tilt the balance of power to greatly I think. Only one at a time.
Post by: NuclearSpeed on April 04, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 05, 2007, 03:00:54 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 05, 2007, 03:51:20 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Will there be people helping create avatars again?
Well, I've got a copy of photoshop and some free time, so I'll try any request people have.
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 05, 2007, 06:33:53 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 05, 2007, 07:03:59 AM
Background:
Here's two versions. Let me know if there's anything else you'd like.
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 05, 2007, 07:25:36 AM
EDIT:
Forgot to tell you THANKS!!!
Post by: Khushrenada on April 05, 2007, 08:18:30 AM
Post by: stevey on April 05, 2007, 08:38:08 AM
Post by: vudu on April 05, 2007, 08:55:15 AM
Post by: Khushrenada on April 05, 2007, 09:03:35 AM
The brains always stays part of the mafia. And yes, he can have more than one role power. If he gets 3 more roles, he can use all of them.
To Vudu:
My hope is to have two mafia's but I'm waiting to see how many people sign up first. I'm basically operating on the assumption that there will be two mafias. If not, I'll just tweak a couple of the roles.
Post by: 18 Days on April 05, 2007, 11:45:54 AM
Post by: Zach on April 05, 2007, 02:03:58 PM
Anyway, Stabby, as long as your helping with Avatars, any chance you could get rid of the backround on mine? (and enlarge it appropriately)
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 05, 2007, 02:28:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Zach
Anyway, Stabby, as long as your helping with Avatars, any chance you could get rid of the backround on mine? (and enlarge it appropriately)
I'll look into it. It shouldn't be too hard.
EDIT: Here's what I got.
I couldn't find a larger picture of the arcade DK, so I found a ripped sprite of it and increased the size a bit. It loses some of the pixelated feel, but hopefully should serve.
Post by: nickmitch on April 05, 2007, 04:52:20 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on April 05, 2007, 09:28:58 PM
Post by: Pittbboi on April 06, 2007, 04:00:17 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 06, 2007, 05:47:06 AM
(Actually I don't see why not.)
Post by: Khushrenada on April 06, 2007, 12:16:13 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on April 06, 2007, 05:25:51 PM
If so, put me down as him.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 06, 2007, 05:34:15 PM
Post by: Zach on April 06, 2007, 05:50:43 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on April 06, 2007, 07:36:48 PM
Welcome aboard thatguy. However, Dr. Mario is not a Nintendo villain so you may want to choose seomone else.
Post by: vudu on April 07, 2007, 02:54:37 AM
Post by: mantidor on April 07, 2007, 05:42:53 PM
I didn't have it for almost a month, its been rough days, and playing from work makes me feel bad.Post by: Khushrenada on April 07, 2007, 05:55:37 PM
Since it appears there will only be one mafia, a quick update on some mafia roles.
The corrupt cop can use his power on odd nights and the muscle can use his ability on even nights. The seductress can use that ability every 3rd day but it is still a choice of recruit or hit. That should keep it even.
I'll leave this thread open until late in the afternoon like 5:00 mountain time and then I'll close it and send out the roles and we can have it. Remember, I'm always available to send any questions too. Just send me a private message.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 08, 2007, 06:45:50 AM
Post by: vudu on April 08, 2007, 06:52:50 AM
Post by: that Baby guy on April 08, 2007, 08:52:34 AM
Edit: Yeah, I misread Nintendo Villains/Bosses as Heroes/Villains somehow. Weird.
Post by: Garnee on April 08, 2007, 10:20:46 AM
TOM NOOK
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 08, 2007, 11:39:59 AM
oh, and if not taken, I shall be Master Hand XD
Post by: Khushrenada on April 08, 2007, 12:14:08 PM
Also, if you have not chosen a villain yet, one will be assigned to you.
Post by: Dasmos on April 08, 2007, 03:29:22 PM
Post by: 18 Days on April 08, 2007, 05:14:03 PM
Post by: Zach on April 08, 2007, 05:49:12 PM
Quote*THROWS BARREL AT DASMOS*
Originally posted by: Dasmos
Actually I'll change, I'll be plain ol' Mario as my villian. I like my avatar at the moment.
I was hoping someone would pick mario, Im not sure if its really in the spirit of the game, but if you wanna bend the rules mario has technically been a villain before (DK JR). now I have a rival to mess with.
I guess its khush's decision
Post by: Khushrenada on April 08, 2007, 06:36:21 PM
In other news, things are going to be a bit delayed unfortunately. I've been sending out the roles and I happened to send a player a mafia role. However, I forgot to tell the player the teammates for his mafia. So, I sent him a list. Or at least, I thought I did. Turns out it was sent to a different player. So, I know have to re-do the assigning of roles. Sorry about this. I'm going to take care of this right now.
All roles are being revoked. All roles are being revoked. This may be disappointing for some since I'm sure they'd like to keep the role they have. And I apologize since it was a stupid mistake on my part. I just clicked the wrong name. However, for those who did not recieve a role, this may be good news.
So, to know the role you actually have, the message that begins with the following phrase: "I am a major idiot." is the message with your actual role.
Post by: that Baby guy on April 08, 2007, 06:42:32 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on April 08, 2007, 08:39:11 PM
EDIT: Yep. Everything went smooth this time. Yay me.
Post by: that Baby guy on April 09, 2007, 08:18:30 AM
I like what I just made today, a purple Florida Gator with Croco's signature top hat, but I had to use paint to shrink it, so it's a little... pixelly. Anyone feel like being generous with their time?
Post by: BigJim on April 09, 2007, 01:00:28 PM
