Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 12, 2007, 04:11:54 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 12, 2007, 04:15:24 PM
I doubt they were able to add a fully working online mode in just 3 months...Unless they were working with online since the beginning of the development and have been quiet about it.
Just don't get your hopes up. Chances are MP 8 will not have online.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 12, 2007, 06:41:25 PM
Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on March 12, 2007, 07:05:26 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 12, 2007, 07:11:02 PM
Post by: NeoThunder on March 12, 2007, 08:28:51 PM
Really?....do you want to decide what games you want to play online or do you want someone else to decide for you.
Post by: Shift Key on March 12, 2007, 09:13:33 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I really hope something great is added, because I've been really anticipating the game! The Mario Party series has always been fun with family and I have no doubt this version will be alot of fun utilizing the Wiimote! So boooo on Nintendo.
Translation: "No online mode endorses the concept of Mario Party drinking game. The Wiimote makes it even funnier to play. Hurry up already!"
Post by: Pale on March 13, 2007, 01:28:02 AM
Post by: MaryJane on March 13, 2007, 04:17:39 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 13, 2007, 04:47:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Shift KeyQuote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I really hope something great is added, because I've been really anticipating the game! The Mario Party series has always been fun with family and I have no doubt this version will be alot of fun utilizing the Wiimote! So boooo on Nintendo.
Translation: "No online mode endorses the concept of Mario Party drinking game. The Wiimote makes it even funnier to play. Hurry up already!"
Angst much?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 13, 2007, 06:53:07 AM
Post by: Bloodworth on March 13, 2007, 07:21:34 AM
I don't know where anyone said August, but Nintendo announced that it will come out on May 29th last week. As for online, you can just wait until Mario Party 9 hits next spring. (c'mon you know it will)
Post by: matt oz on March 13, 2007, 08:06:02 AM
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Originally posted by: NeoThunder
Mario Party needs to be online people. Any multiplayer game needs to be online. If you don't think it would be fun playing online....then don't play it online, simple as that. This whole, "it wouldn't be great for online" is the stupidest thing i've heard. It would enable someone who wants to play online to be able to hook up with someone else that wants to play online.
Really?....do you want to decide what games you want to play online or do you want someone else to decide for you.
I completely agree, and not just on this game, but any other case where people feel they have the prerogative to decide how other people should play games - like when people say Link shouldn't talk. Then turn off voice acting when they implement it! I wanna hear some goddamn dialogue!
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 13, 2007, 08:08:59 AM
Ugh, you do realize that if Link spoke and there was the option to turn off the dialogue, WE'D STILL SEE THE TEXT, RIGHT? Link will NEVER speak, and that's a pure stylistic choice on the part of the developer...
Post by: segagamer12 on March 13, 2007, 10:13:40 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 13, 2007, 10:25:02 AM
Besides, Nintendo is notorious for their long development times and delays. Considering that, you would think they'd be gung-ho for adding online to their titles, you know added longevity and all that.
Though, I'm still not getting my hopes up.
Post by: segagamer12 on March 13, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 13, 2007, 12:30:51 PM
Cuz playing Mario Party without the excited voices of others is just a one-person show in what is a fairly slow game; in other words, sad.
Post by: Blue Plant on March 13, 2007, 01:55:37 PM
Post by: Shift Key on March 13, 2007, 02:23:34 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Angst much?
whut?
And my money's still on this game not being online. I haven't heard any truth to this rumour, and I think Nintendo would be advertising this as the first real online game if they were actually putting online into it.
Dream all you want. But until some facts come out that support it, they're just dreams.
Post by: couchmonkey on March 15, 2007, 06:49:04 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"like when people say Link shouldn't talk. Then turn off voice acting when they implement it! I wanna hear some goddamn dialogue!"
Ugh, you do realize that if Link spoke and there was the option to turn off the dialogue, WE'D STILL SEE THE TEXT, RIGHT? Link will NEVER speak, and that's a pure stylistic choice on the part of the developer...
But everyone besides Link could speak. Of course that raises issues of how weird it may sound when a discussion occurs and he just sits there saying nothing. Whatev.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 15, 2007, 07:34:47 AM
If you're not going to talk, then Link shouldn't talk, since Link's a push-over YES-MAN of a hero who gets told to do everthing without thinking for himself (or is it yourself?). "link let's do this" "link what's that over there" "link we've got to save her" "link please help me solve my problems" "link i'm dying and you're they're only hope"
you're not going to get Link to say "you know what, i'm going to the pub to get drunk off my ass and sleep in a pile of peanuts and hylian beer vomit. find a real hero cuz everyone expects me to do something and hardly cares about what I think (cuz i don't think, that's the player's job, and i shouldn't speak, cuz if i speak it should be what i'm thinking and therefore should be what the player's thinking, but it's too difficult to make Link say what the player will say cuz the Wii is too underpowered to make such a gameplay gimmick a reality) until i kick the final bosses' ass then people realize there's no more danger and finally ask me 'R U ok? i'm sorry i lead you on a 30 hour adventure with no thanks.' If you'll excuse me, i'm going to kidnap Agitha and lock her in my treehouse basement."
* This is not Pro's opinion. It is merely food for thought that Pro cooked up.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on March 15, 2007, 09:58:05 AM
If you want something like Mass Effect be my guest, but I think Zelda games have their thing down and if they were to add anything I'd only want the other characters to actually say stuff, then again I feel spoken lines in games seem to slow down gameplay more than text.
As for Mario Party I can't wait for it and don't really care about online one way or the other, I could take it or leave it. I mean I can see the positive of being able to play online against random ppl when nobody is around, but at the same time I think playing it online would take too long and doesn't add anything really different to the overall game.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 15, 2007, 10:04:27 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 15, 2007, 10:26:23 AM
Obviously, I'm in the "Link needs to start speaking" camp, or the "Zelda games need voice acting for the other characters, at least" camp. If it was handled well, with believable dialogue, it wouldn't detract from Link's appeal at all. I mean, because though he may not be speaking we all know what his voice sounds like. And how many of you are really "relating" to a mute guy with long blond hair, pointy ears and tights who must save a world full of other elf-like people, humans, and alien-like creatures by collecting items from a bunch of random temples? As a black guy from Los Angeles I know I'm not "relating" to him: I'm just controlling a character (in 3rd person, no less) that develops in every other way that establishes him as an individual character BUT speaking. I would be relating to him more if he were a more complete character, that did speak, who made me relate to him through the value of his own opinions and voice.
Pro:
Obviously, Mario Party would have to have a different mode for online. Something similar to the rapid back-to-back format of WarioWare. If they did that, Mario Party would work pretty well online.
Post by: Strell on March 15, 2007, 10:31:34 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 15, 2007, 10:34:46 AM
I didn't say the Zelda games sucked because he wasn't speaking. But Nintendo themselves said they're taking Zelda to a new place for the next console version of it, and I'm a part of the growing group of who would like to see voice acting implemented in the next game. Zelda's an epic game, it's about time they made the jump.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 15, 2007, 10:59:34 AM
Yeah, I'm fairly sure they are talking about something that actually affects gameplay...
Post by: Pittbboi on March 15, 2007, 11:07:15 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2007, 11:21:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Yeah, imagine Mario Party 8 and playing online with say, ME, and i decide to be an asshat and DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHILE IT'S MY TURN for at least 10 minutes. You'd want to kick my ass or deactivate my controller or something, but you can't cuz we're online. And someone will have to close/restart the current game to get everything moving again.
In current online games, they already have fail-safes which simply boot the player if they don't respond for too long. The same would exist in MP, no doubt.
As for voice acting in Zelda, if done right, it could add a great deal to the immersion, but if done wrong, it could wreck the series. I think I'd like to see it done in another Nintendo native game first before I'd want to really see it in Zelda.
And yeah, Link wouldn't talk either way. We don't need "EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME, Princess!" to shock and horrify a whole new generation of Zelda players.
Post by: IceCold on March 15, 2007, 12:47:06 PM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 15, 2007, 01:14:33 PM
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As for voice acting in Zelda, if done right, it could add a great deal to the immersion, but if done wrong, it could wreck the series. I think I'd like to see it done in another Nintendo native game first before I'd want to really see it in Zelda.
And yeah, Link wouldn't talk either way. We don't need "EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME, Princess!" to shock and horrify a whole new generation of Zelda players.
LOL...
You know, I wasn't for voice acting until in Zelda (I just didn't think technology was there) until, ironically, I played FFXII. That game may have done more than a few things wrong, but it's arguably the first game to get full voice acting right. And a lot of people would argue that the texture and quality of the voice acting actually saves a lot of the story. Imagine FFXII level voice acting in a Zelda game...
Of course, that would require Nintendo taking voice acting seriously as integral to the quality of the game...something I'm not entirely sure they would do.
Post by: IceCold on March 15, 2007, 01:20:53 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 15, 2007, 01:34:11 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 15, 2007, 04:43:42 PM
"WHERRREE IS THE ESSENCE OF MANTOROK!? WHERRREE IS IT? I WILL NOT ASK AGAIN, CHILD."
Hell, Super Metroid got voice acting right.
To give Link substantial voice work would pull him away from being the quiet humble hero we're used to. Or if he had voice work, he wouldn't talk much at all, since everyone else in the game barks orders and requests at him.
Well, what do we gain from Link's voice acting? Do we get to hear him think? Will he be a humble, boring guy to listen to? Will he have an annoying attitude? Or will he be horrendously witty like Reon S. Kennedy? Is there anything profound going on in his head other than "how the fark did i get in this mess? oh yeah, it was that &$*^$#*@ princess!"
Frankly, I don't care what he thinks. They'd have to go thru the trouble of making up some motivation and conviction for him, and he'll probably angst out like Lloyd from Tales.
Wind Waker's Link told plenty through his fat face alone, and I was satisfied.
