Post by: capamerica on March 08, 2007, 05:56:33 PM
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Waiting for the Miyamoto keynote to start, I’m sitting three rows from the front. Close enough to see Nintendo’s resident BMOC, Reggie Fils-Aime at the front of the crowd, working it with his trademark smile and good will. He poses for pictures, he signs Wiimotes, he presses the flesh with a good natured ease that would make even the most seasoned politician weep with envy.
“Kick his ass and take his name!” someone shouted from a few rows behind me.
“Who?” answered Reggie in mid-autograph.
“Phil Harrison, front row!” Sure enough, there was Phil Harrison, seated dead center, front row. Looks like he could show up on time for Nintendo’s keynote, but not Sony’s.
With a grin and a chuckle, Reggie replies, “Some would say we’ve already done that.”
Touchdown. The crowd goes wild.
http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/03/gdc_nintendos_k.html
LOL! Way to go Reggie!
Post by: MarioAllStar on March 08, 2007, 07:19:18 PM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on March 08, 2007, 07:35:30 PM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 08, 2007, 07:36:09 PM
Not only that, but this was definitely the wrong venue for that type of comeback. I hate to say it, but Sony creamed Nintendo at the GDC.
Post by: Mario on March 08, 2007, 07:46:51 PM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 08, 2007, 07:51:57 PM
Eh, at the end of the day it was harmless so it's no big deal. I would just prefer Nintendo handle their success with the dignity and humility that they were respected for when they weren't on top, instead of becoming more comfortable taking pot shots at the competition.
Post by: oohhboy on March 08, 2007, 07:53:42 PM
You got to remember Pittboi. GDC os not E3. It is not suppose to be a big press event. It is suppose to be a bunch of devs getting togeather to talk shop. It is true that this year with the down sizing of E3, more press events are in play at GDC, but it is not E3.
Also everyone keeps forgeting that Nintendo can't make any bitg annoucements due to the stock trade. they couldn't show up Sony with anything big even if they wanted to.
Post by: Pittbboi on March 08, 2007, 08:03:31 PM
I'm glad Nintendo is doing so well, but they can keep that cocksure attitude they're starting to adopt to themselves.
And I know Nintendo couldn't reveal anything big (though in my opinion I think they stretched that excuse), but that doesn't change the fact that Sony could, and did. It was a nice joke on Reggie's part, but it didn't reflect the realities of the GDC, where Sony--unfortunately--shined the brightest.
Post by: BigJim on March 08, 2007, 08:11:51 PM
Post by: Shift Key on March 08, 2007, 08:38:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Eh, I dunno if that was really appropriate. What happened to the Nintendo that was above petty squabbles.
Petty squabbles? Man, that was off-the-cuff and hilarious. It wasn't an interview and it wasn't speaking to the public.
Also, what did Reggie do with George Harrison's piecharts? I hope he consumed them so that they may never bore the universe again.
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 08, 2007, 11:04:33 PM
QuoteAnd are the Sony/MS fans not reacting in a similar way though? 'Sony' jokes or slights against xbox's size, price, or reliability are not humbly received or tactfully responded to.
Originally posted by: Pittbboi
LOL--I remember a time last gen when this board would get roused whenever MS and/or Sony was having this brand of fun at Nintendo's expense.
QuoteWell, assuming you were Reggie, at that very moment, what would you have said? Is Nintendo not allowed to serve some amount of humble pie when they are besting Sony in sales on both markets? Had Sony shown the same overall dignity and humility with their success, i'd agree more with you. Now if comments like that start appearing in his public presentations or turn into anything more then a humble poke in the ribs, i'll agree with you.
Eh, at the end of the day it was harmless so it's no big deal. I would just prefer Nintendo handle their success with the dignity and humility that they were respected for when they weren't on top, instead of becoming more comfortable taking pot shots at the competition.
As it stands though, I would say, ignoring what was said or acknowledging the statement but politely refusing to comment on it would have been worse given the situation.
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 08, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
QuoteWhat Mr. Hecker said though was far more then just a humorous poke in the ribs or stating something thats true. There is a right way to rant and a wrong way to rant.
Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Well yeah, this is no E3, but this isn't an entirely closed off event. The media still has access, and in that sense it's still very much public. It's for that reason that Mr. Hecker just had to issue an apology.
Quote"Cocksure?" Now that just sounds like you're bitter over something. If you are the anti-fanboy you claim to be, I hope you've been scorning Sony for all their "Cocksure" attitude in the past. From the short length that i've seen your posts, i've not seen much scorn for Sony's far more arrogant comments, of recent.
I'm glad Nintendo is doing so well, but they can keep that cocksure attitude they're starting to adopt to themselves.
QuoteSo Reggie isn't allowed to comment on the success they're having in sales vs PS3 (or 360, for that matter) because Sony had a good presentation the previous day? That's ridiculous.
And I know Nintendo couldn't reveal anything big (though in my opinion I think they stretched that excuse), but that doesn't change the fact that Sony could, and did. It was a nice joke on Reggie's part, but it didn't reflect the realities of the GDC, where Sony--unfortunately--shined the brightest.
Post by: Shift Key on March 09, 2007, 01:11:17 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
"Cocksure?" Now that just sounds like you're bitter over something. If you are the anti-fanboy you claim to be, I hope you've been scorning Sony for all their "Cocksure" attitude in the past. From the short length that i've seen your posts, i've not seen much scorn for Sony's far more arrogant comments, of recent.
*all aboard the "F*ck you Pittbot" bandwagon - this is pure garbage. Lift your game, troll.
QuoteOh yes, let us circumvent the law for the fanboys. Forget the fact that we'll post videos on the intertubes as soon as possible, its just that government law dictated that we're not allowed to talk out of our arse for this period of time.
And I know Nintendo couldn't reveal anything big (though in my opinion I think they stretched that excuse)
Open your narrow minds, fanboys. There's a world outside the internet. The internet is purely an optional component of the universe at the moment.
Post by: Adrock on March 09, 2007, 01:23:13 AM
Post by: mantidor on March 09, 2007, 02:38:52 AM
This answer by Reggie was simply obvious, his first words to us were "I'm about kicking ass, I'm about taking names", thats his PR persona and he has to live up to it.
Post by: Magik on March 09, 2007, 03:39:08 AM
Post by: Ceric on March 09, 2007, 04:09:26 AM
Post by: Kenology on March 09, 2007, 04:18:08 AM
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but is the one and only Koji Kondo speaking, that alone is just awesome).
Wholeheartedly agreed. That was all I was really concerned with initially.
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 09, 2007, 05:57:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Eh, I dunno if that was really appropriate. What happened to the Nintendo that was above petty squabbles?
Reggie didn't start this fight: he didn't see Phil Harrison and call his ass out or anything. Someone in the audience did, and he handled it tactfully, all things considered. Reggie kept his image while at the same time appeasing the crowd.
Besides, Phil Harrison and Reggie both make so much money that a bit of ribbing like this isn't going to hurt anyone. No matter how piss-poor Sony does, Phil still takes home a six-figure paycheck.
Trust me, he's not going to cry himself to sleep about it.
Post by: vudu on March 09, 2007, 06:18:28 AM
QuoteSix? It's probably closer to eight after by the time things are said and done.
No matter how piss-poor Sony does, Phil still takes home a six-figure paycheck.
Post by: BlkPaladin on March 09, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2007, 07:05:16 AM
Post by: ryancoke on March 09, 2007, 09:11:15 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 09, 2007, 09:27:14 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 09, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
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Oh yes, let us circumvent the law for the fanboys. Forget the fact that we'll post videos on the intertubes as soon as possible, its just that government law dictated that we're not allowed to talk out of our arse for this period of time.
Oh please.
Here's my issue with that. If Miyamoto hadn't announced/shown ANYTHING, I wouldn't have thought they were stretching the excuse. But that's not the case. There was a new Galaxy trailer shown as well as a new channel announced. If it were entirely true that Nintendo couldn't, by law, announce anything due to their stock trade, why were they allowed to announce the little that they did? The fact that there was a new Galaxy trailer shown tells me that they were probably allowed to talk about projects that the public by and large already knew about, or announcements that were very minor (Mii Popularity channel). And if that's the case, where was Brawl footage? Metroid? Mario Party? Disaster? There were a ton of things that Nintendo could have introduced at the conference that would have made the crowd and press go absolutely bonkers without having to reveal new projects.
Now, if there was some sort of compromise with the Japanese government allowing them to show the little they did, that's one thing. But there's no confirmation this way or that way.
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 09, 2007, 09:35:20 AM
QuoteIt's called front running.
I don't really get why nintendo's hands were tied at GDC because of the stock sale. What's the problem??
Let's say Nintendo itself, or an executive, wants to sell some stock. In either case, you would want to sell your stock for as high a price as possible. So Nintendo or the executive in order to manipulate the stock price, could just say some really rosey stuff or release really rosey information so that people will buy more stock and raise the price. Then sell their stock after words. Of course, this wouldn't be announced ahead of time, so it would appear to a lay person to just be a good time to sell.
But, even though this situation is announced, there is the chance for insider information or manipulation. So until the deal is settled Nintendo has to be mum, otherwise they could be aleged in a stock manipulation scam.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2007, 09:52:32 AM
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Originally posted by: capamericaQuote
Waiting for the Miyamoto keynote to start, I’m sitting three rows from the front. Close enough to see Nintendo’s resident BMOC, Reggie Fils-Aime at the front of the crowd, working it with his trademark smile and good will. He poses for pictures, he signs Wiimotes, he presses the flesh with a good natured ease that would make even the most seasoned politician weep with envy.
“Kick his ass and take his name!” someone shouted from a few rows behind me.
“Who?” answered Reggie in mid-autograph.
“Phil Harrison, front row!” Sure enough, there was Phil Harrison, seated dead center, front row. Looks like he could show up on time for Nintendo’s keynote, but not Sony’s.
With a grin and a chuckle, Reggie replies, “Some would say we’ve already done that.”
Touchdown. The crowd goes wild.
http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/03/gdc_nintendos_k.html
LOL! Way to go Reggie!
lol
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 09, 2007, 09:58:20 AM
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Originally posted by: PittbboiQuote
Oh yes, let us circumvent the law for the fanboys. Forget the fact that we'll post videos on the intertubes as soon as possible, its just that government law dictated that we're not allowed to talk out of our arse for this period of time.
Oh please.
Here's my issue with that. If Miyamoto hadn't announced/shown ANYTHING, I wouldn't have thought they were stretching the excuse. But that's not the case. There was a new Galaxy trailer shown as well as a new channel announced. If it were entirely true that Nintendo couldn't, by law, announce anything due to their stock trade, why were they allowed to announce the little that they did? The fact that there was a new Galaxy trailer shown tells me that they were probably allowed to talk about projects that the public by and large already knew about, or announcements that were very minor (Mii Popularity channel). And if that's the case, where was Brawl footage? Metroid? Mario Party? Disaster? There were a ton of things that Nintendo could have introduced at the conference that would have made the crowd and press go absolutely bonkers without having to reveal new projects.
Now, if there was some sort of compromise with the Japanese government allowing them to show the little they did, that's one thing. But there's no confirmation this way or that way.
Geez, you expect Nintendo release tons of info like that? Where've you been the past 10 years?
It's a conference for game developers, not retailers and swag-hunting-fake-press, and always has been. It's not the old media extravaganza that E3 was. Tho it's understandable that companies strut their stuff this time around considering THEY MISERABLY FAILED AT THE LAST E3. Who are they trying to show off to ("hey, look at OUR game stuff")? The people who make games, or the people they want buying their games?
Sony had new things to show? That's perfectly digestable. I just demote it to "big whoop" status since these exciting developments seem to be, oh, 10 months late?
What did Nintendo do last GDC? -- I don't remember, so it must not have been much. What happened in GDC 2005? -- Just another beta version of Twilight Princess, that's all. And at the same time, I guess Sony and MS were using their usual hype tricks and promises, which gets them justified attention, as usual. But that didn't help them a whole lot in the immediate months following, did it?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 09, 2007, 10:10:09 AM
They "knew" not to expect too much. Geez, these guys fail at NOT EXPECTING. It's their fault for expecting.
Maybe press should be barred from GDC events. They don't make games, they don't share development experience, they just report and playtest.
I'm curious if there's individually more press than developers in each of these events. If a dev/pub decides to have separate press events outside the festivities, then that's fine, cuz it's not GDC.
Post by: UncleBob on March 09, 2007, 10:56:30 AM
Post by: The Omen on March 09, 2007, 11:02:02 AM
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It was a nice joke on Reggie's part, but it didn't reflect the realities of the GDC, where Sony--unfortunately--shined the brightest.
He was talking about Wii vs the PS3 sales worldwide, not the gdc event itself. That is fairly obvious.
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 09, 2007, 11:23:09 AM
QuoteCalm down. While its true you have to limit what you are saying during a stock sale or stock buyback, you don't have to be a fuçking hermit and completely seclude yourself. You're generally allowed to talk about products already announced or on the market. Even make small new announcements, like a new Mii Channel.
Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Here's my issue with that. If Miyamoto hadn't announced/shown ANYTHING, I wouldn't have thought they were stretching the excuse. But that's not the case. There was a new Galaxy trailer shown as well as a new channel announced. If it were entirely true that Nintendo couldn't, by law, announce anything due to their stock trade, why were they allowed to announce the little that they did?
A lot of stuff falls into grey areas, so if you're unsure it's best not to talk. But generally, no forward looking statements, no major product announcements, and no large amounts of self-hyping.
QuoteThe rest, talking about Brawl, Metroid, Disaster, Mario Party, whatever, well that's up to Nintendo. If Nintendo doesn't want to talk they don't have to. And, historically, won't until they are ready. Besides, part of being the humble and dignified company you want Nintendo to be is allowing your opponent his moment of glory, if he bests you.
There were a ton of things that Nintendo could have introduced at the conference that would have made the crowd and press go absolutely bonkers without having to reveal new projects.
