Post by: Bloodworth on March 08, 2007, 07:59:06 AM
At the end of Miyamoto's keynote address, a lengthy trailer of Super Mario Galaxy was shown. We are pleased to bring that video to you now thanks to Nintendo and YouTube.
Post by: Bloodworth on March 08, 2007, 08:14:13 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 08, 2007, 08:17:14 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 08, 2007, 08:18:29 AM
Post by: Arbok on March 08, 2007, 08:20:09 AM
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It's up now.
EDIT: And man does it look fantastic...
Post by: Bloodworth on March 08, 2007, 08:20:09 AM
Post by: Koekoenutt on March 08, 2007, 08:22:24 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 08, 2007, 08:24:40 AM
WOW.
The game looks magical and beautiful. The scenes where Mario is flying through space is awe inspiring, and those boss fights look crazy.
The art style is fantastic. Those that think the Wii is severely underpowered should look at this.
Mario galaxy is officially one of my most wanted games on the Wii!
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 08, 2007, 08:25:56 AM
I also get more of the Mario 64 vibe off of this...
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2007, 08:28:16 AM
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This does look pretty damn cool.
I also get more of the Mario 64 vibe off of this...
I get a Mario 64/Sunshine vibe because I loved both games :-P:. BTW the video is stunning, the visuals are jaw dropping gorgeous and the game looks to be one of the unique titles PERIOD coming out this year.
Post by: wandering on March 08, 2007, 08:31:01 AM
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The game is indeed looking beautiful. And magical. It's bringing back memories of Mario 64.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 08, 2007, 08:34:08 AM
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This does look pretty damn cool.
I also get more of the Mario 64 vibe off of this...
I get a Mario 64/Sunshine vibe because I loved both games :-P:. BTW the video is stunning, the visuals are jaw dropping gorgeous and the game looks to be one of the unique titles PERIOD coming out this year.
My Mario 64 vibes are stronger, though.
Mario Sunshine was a fun game with some crazy and beautiful levels, but it lack that magic, that sense of awe you got whenever you entered a new world.
Mario galaxy, on the other hands, looks like it could feature worlds that will awe and amaze you when you first discover them.
If this is what they have planned for Mario, I can't WAIT to see what they have planned for Zelda...
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 08, 2007, 08:34:28 AM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2007, 08:38:29 AM
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I love how the game just screams "Hey look, we have fun making videogames!" So many small details that make the artistic flair of this game all the more apparent...(I especially loved the extending vine and the volcano erupting as Mario blasts off!)
If only Nintendo had any artistic talent, it would be amazing.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 08, 2007, 08:47:08 AM
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I love how the game just screams "Hey look, we have fun making videogames!" So many small details that make the artistic flair of this game all the more apparent...(I especially loved the extending vine and the volcano erupting as Mario blasts off!)
If only Nintendo had any artistic talent, it would be amazing.
Yeah, the Wii's a piece of sh*t...
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2007, 08:51:36 AM
Though I've noticed the backgrounds look much better than Mario himself. He seems a little out of place. His textures are more bland and he has a bit of jagginess to him. I wonder if Nintendo just shoved in that Gamecube Mario model they used in virtually every game. The planets and everything though looks fantastic.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 08, 2007, 08:58:12 AM
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I watched about half of the video and then it turned it off because all this cool stuff was being shown that probably would have more impact if I first found out about it while playing. The game looks great and it looks fun as hell.
Though I've noticed the backgrounds look much better than Mario himself. He seems a little out of place. His textures are more bland and he has a bit of jagginess to him. I wonder if Nintendo just shoved in that Gamecube Mario model they used in virtually every game. The planets and everything though looks fantastic.
...You have a point, Ian.
This will be the last I see of Galaxy. I want to keep the game a great surprise.
And yeah, the Mario model does look weird.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2007, 08:59:24 AM
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I watched about half of the video and then it turned it off because all this cool stuff was being shown that probably would have more impact if I first found out about it while playing. The game looks great and it looks fun as hell.
Though I've noticed the backgrounds look much better than Mario himself. He seems a little out of place. His textures are more bland and he has a bit of jagginess to him. I wonder if Nintendo just shoved in that Gamecube Mario model they used in virtually every game. The planets and everything though looks fantastic.
My guess is that the Mario model will be improved before it comes out, at the moment they are probably more focused on designing the enviroments and enemies (which still look mindblowing).
Post by: TrueNerd on March 08, 2007, 09:06:39 AM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2007, 09:43:51 AM
Mario 64 was great and all as it implemented 3D. But as time went on, it and many more 3D games (FPSs, notoriously) are still dominated by traversal on 2D planes/floors. It's a natural setting, afterall, but it took so long for a high-profile game to tackle the task of expanding the notion of the "playing field" further.
I'd argue the most exhilirating moments of Mario 64 involve the Wing Cap, thanks to its sharply contrasted sense of freedom (and danger?) from the typical platforming -- aspects Mario Sunshine severly lacked (way too terrestrial, not enough time spent grasping for the heavens)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2007, 09:45:15 AM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2007, 10:57:49 AM
This is your chance to teach your right hand new things (..................).
Like using a mouse or writing on a chalkboard.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2007, 11:12:24 AM
It looks like it has that potential but I doubt it will be as influencial as Super Mario 64. That's just cause Super Mario 64 is an easier concept to copy and set blueprints that would work for almost any 3D game. Galaxy looks more, well, weird and I don't think it's design is broad enough to have the same impact. It's creative as hell but are all games going to suddenly have weird gravity and camera angles? No, because that's abstract while Super Mario 64's reality is little more like our own world. In real life gravity is "down" and elements of real life are always going to be more common in games just because it's easier for the player and the designer to relate to.
Super Mario Galaxy gives me this "OH YEAH!" feeling that Cube games rarely did. I feel more like I did when finding out info about Pikmin and Metroid Prime because those games were so creative. Though I don't see the remote as as big of a deal as Nintendo makes it out to be (the concept of Mario jumping between planets could have been thought of on the Cube) it does seem to be inspiring them. Because of the remote they have this attitude where they feel they have a new innovative outlet for their games and that's making them think of new ideas, even if they're not specific to the remote.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2007, 11:16:32 AM
If he paid attention to the trailer, the answer is no.
If he didn't pay attention, the answer is yes, and he should get Super Mario 64 from the VC for 1000 Wii Points which will serve all his gaming needs well for the next 6 years.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2007, 11:22:21 AM
No it isn't, but I think the concept could have been thought of without the remote. Maybe not this exact execution but what's catching my interest is unrelated to the remote. I dig the planets and the lack of a clear "up" and "down". That idea is unrelated to the remote. BUT the existence of the remote can act almost like a placebo. Nintendo thinks they've opened the door to a new era of gaming and THAT has insprired them.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2007, 11:40:26 AM
The strength of Mario as a playable character is his ability (the mechanics applied) to traverse his environment. You don't need to specifically jump from planet to planet to toy with the traditional feel of gravity, he could've been inside a gigantic bubble and encounter similar feats. I'm viewing the Remote as a tool that's allowing for more creative traversal, period. The rest of the game development just follows suit.
Or both concepts grew at the same time, in which case you should leave this thread before I spoil the rest of the game for you.
Post by: Mario on March 08, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
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Post by: MarioAllStar on March 08, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
Just yesterday, I was thinking how great LittleBigWorld's graphics were--and they are pretty--but I actually prefer the look of Super Paper Mario. What also excites me about Super Paper Mario is that it looks like a game that could be developed with a relatively small budget. Sometimes I consider a career in the video game industry and it is good to know that not all games have to be a massive high-definition 3D experience developed with multi-million dollar budgets.
Edit: LittleBigPlanet
Post by: Acefondu on March 08, 2007, 02:26:25 PM
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 08, 2007, 02:57:25 PM
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I'm still not getting the appeal.
It's because you like Deus Ex... =3
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Post by: wandering on March 08, 2007, 04:03:35 PM
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Mario Galaxy is a game that I don't get excited about in my head, but when I watch videos or think back to when I played it, the infatuation kicks in. Like Dan, I'm bewildered by the level design and am still shocked that Nintendo has found a way (or they think they've found a way) to piece together these very loose environments and somehow wrap the player's mind around the changing gravity and camera angles. This game is 3D in a way that few others have even attempted, much less succeeded. If Nintendo pulls it off, I think Galaxy may be remembered as even more revolutionary than Super Mario 64. It already looks more fun.
I remember reading somewhere that the average person can only take the direction of down changing so many times before getting confused or sick, which is why even movies set in space won't do it that much. Whatever. I can take it. In fact, I've been dying for something that played with gravity and perspective like Mario Galaxy does for a long time - probably ever since I read Ender's Game as a kid. In fact, I remember being annoyed with Spiderman 2: The game because, when you crawled around on a ceiling or building side, the camera wouldn't follow you, but instead stayed upright.
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I don't fully understand Little Big World yet.
Well, if you jump in through one area of the painting, you'll be really small, and if you jump in through another area, you'll be really big. Wait, that's not what we're talking about....
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2007, 06:19:51 PM
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I don't fully understand Little Big World yet.
Ok here is what it is:
1. One part purty visuals
2. One part purty physics
3. One part basic platforming
4. One part questionable customization
And you get a glorified tech demo that makes everyone drool because, well, look at all the shiney things!
Post by: Bloodworth on March 08, 2007, 06:26:40 PM
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Yeah it is interesting that the Thwomp area has a normal-looking sky.
I'm thinking that Mario Galaxy is going to have one or maybe several big planets that you return to with dead ends that you get around by going up into space to proceed. I'm thinking there's a fair chance that it will just be one continuous environment too, rather than being broken up by the typical hub/re-entry mechanism.
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 08, 2007, 06:44:26 PM
It's beautiful. The motion is so seamless and fluid, and it fits the Mario art style perfectly. The art direction in this particular installment looks especially spectacular, and while all the worlds are disconnected they seem to fit together very well, perhaps because they are so abstract.
It reminds me a little of the obstacle course areas in Sunshine, except awesomer-ized.
The implimentation of gravity looks amazing, and the camera seems to work with it flawlessly, which is quite a feat. I guess I'll have to play to be sure of something like that, but it looks great. This of course ties into how the game functions with the controller and everything, it all seems very well put together.
I love the feel of all the tiny planets, being able to see what's ahead yet have it be so far away, the vast sense of the world you get (in part because it's in space, which is so vast, and in part because you can see so far). The blasting off sequences are really nice, and I like the flair they've given to it.
Also, I can tell now, while playing the game and zooming through space, I'll notice a really awesome looking planet. And I'll think "I wonder what that is", and get really excited for it. It'll be an interesting feeling, getting those glimpses and wondering what's in store for you.
Like Bill mentioned, the attention to detail. This may be what impresses me most. Every planetette seems very unique, each has a different style and shape to it. There are so many different ways of travelling, of obstacles and enemies, and each is very carefully and artfully crafted. I could go on about this, but I'll let it rest with that.
Also, the planets still have that Le Petit Prince quality to them, which I love. One of my favorite children's stories ever.
Note 45 seconds into the video (I have Bill's download version, so I hope it's the same time on youtube). Bottom right corner, in the distance. Airships!
I really hope there's a boss that you fight over the course of several planets, with him following you, or you chasing him, or him flying through space while you try to meet him at certain planets.
Yeah, I think I'm more excited to play this than any game since. . . I dunno, maybe ever. I've been drifting away from gaming a little recently; not a lot, but I've not been playing as much, partially because there aren't many games I'm interested in. I have no doubts that this game will totally restore my interest fully. I'll play it over and over and over, even after I've beat it (which is something I can't really do in something like Twilight Princess).
Lovin' it. Can't wait.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2007, 07:01:25 PM
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Post by: IceCold on March 08, 2007, 09:01:57 PM
QuoteIt was already mine as soon as I saw the first footage of it at the E3 2006 conference
Mario galaxy is officially one of my most wanted games on the Wii!
I can't wait for this game - this is exactly why I'm a Mario platformer whore. QuoteIt's funny that right after Miyamoto said how many ideas Pikmin took from Mario 128, the Mario Galaxy trailer ended with what looks like Olimar's spaceship. Right before it fades into the text. I noticed the ship from the E3 footage too.. I wonder.
Bottom right corner, in the distance. Airships!
Also, the Jungle Beat influence is shining through once more. Look no further than that underwater enemy.
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 08, 2007, 10:34:05 PM
Post by: Ceric on March 09, 2007, 06:36:27 AM
My sense of direction is horrible. Watching the video accutely reminded me of such. Then again I was the person who was devastated when they announce the Wiimote because my Fine and Gross moter skills are considered hinder.
Also if Bowser is back I want the Koopa Kids. Not that wimpy unoriginal one we had in Sunshine. (and I liked the game)
