Post by: Bill Aurion on March 06, 2007, 11:51:06 PM
Publisher: XSEED Games
Developer: Marvelous/Townfactory/CING
Release: Winter 2008 (U.S.)
CING is hard at work on a Wii game with a partnership with Marvelous Interactive and Townfactory...Think of it as a medieval Pikmin with some Sim elements...
Executive Producer: Yasuhiro Wada (Harvest Moon)
Producer: Yoshirou Kimura (Harvest Moon, Chulip)
Character Design: Hideo Minaba (Final Fantasy XII)
Monster Design: Kazuyuki Kurashima (Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars)
Game Design: Norikazu Yasunaga (World Neverland)
Director: Youichi Kawaguchi (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King)[3]
Composer: Yoko Shimomura (Kingdom Hearts series, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 07, 2007, 12:28:10 AM
Certainly a surprising team up here though. MAKES ME SMILE!in my pants
Post by: UncleBob on March 07, 2007, 01:09:12 AM
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2007, 02:19:02 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 07, 2007, 02:44:49 AM
Trace Memory and Hotel Dusk...
Post by: anubis6789 on March 07, 2007, 05:41:38 AM
To be somewhat on topic though, Cing is awsome.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2007, 06:32:10 AM
Post by: Crimm on March 07, 2007, 11:50:03 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 07, 2007, 11:59:34 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on March 07, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
I need my fix!
Anyway, other than that, I am pretty excited by this for the simple fact that this project seems to have some major power backing it, what with three teams partnering up for it.
Post by: 18 Days on March 07, 2007, 12:29:18 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2007, 05:43:10 PM
So it's a Zelda clone?
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 09, 2007, 06:41:20 AM
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He likens this to the game Sim Earth. But in addition to a distant view of the world, he wanted to let players experience the world from the first person perspective of one of its residents. He likens this to Sim People.
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The game will combine the life simulation elements of World Neverland with the presentation of Kimura's own Chulip. On top of all that are simulation elements from Harvest Moon. The game will feature simulation, adventure and even a few real time action elements.
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The simulation elements will push the Wii to the limit, promised Wada. When in the god's perspective, the game will display dozens of characters simultaneously, each moving using unique AI routines.
Post by: Kairon on March 09, 2007, 01:54:13 PM
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 09, 2007, 02:24:12 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 01, 2007, 04:54:31 AM
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The third area is memory. Each NPC character will retain a record of things that happened in the past. Yasunaga gave the example of characters walking down a street that they used to traverse with a girlfriend who has died. The NPCs will also remember things that happened during gameplay. For instance, if a character kills a monster, he'll boast about it in town.
Very neat...And more info will be revealed at TGS!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 01, 2007, 06:51:57 AM
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Page works fine for me... =)
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 01, 2007, 10:54:33 AM
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The first one with artwork, you git!
Pffff, I'm not responsible for re-looking up links posted months ago... =)
Post by: ShyGuy on August 01, 2007, 11:14:36 AM
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The first one with artwork, you git!
Pffff, I'm not responsible for re-looking up links posted months ago... =)
Hmm this is true. I think I will hunt for it myself. I wish I had an anime screencap to post in witty response...
Post by: ShyGuy on August 01, 2007, 11:47:06 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 29, 2007, 12:49:19 PM
Scan 1
Scan 2
And new info:
- As king, make the town people do work and build the country
- RPG with heavy simulation elements
- Each character has their own way of life (and will react differently from other characters)
- Away from the people's town, there are places infested by beasts
- You can kill them with 1-10 people, and they have different strengths
The game's looking great! I can't wait to see the character AI and how the "personal" aspect of the game where you can cover the action from the King's perspective turns out! =D
Post by: Caliban on August 29, 2007, 01:18:08 PM
Nevertheless, this game looks interesting and quite artsy, I'm looking forward for this game to hit NA.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on August 30, 2007, 01:47:50 AM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on August 30, 2007, 02:50:40 AM
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For some reason I'm sorta getting a Harvest Moon/Animal Crossing Vibe where you can go all SimEarth on the world beforehand?
That's because this game IS being made by the people who made Harvest Moon. It's a huge collaboration between a few big name game designers.
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2007, 04:22:36 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2007, 04:24:22 AM
Looks really nice! I also wonder who's doing the music, because they are doing a fantastic job!
Post by: Stogi on September 21, 2007, 04:35:30 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2007, 04:39:50 AM
In case names are not your strong suit, she did the music for Super Mario RPG, Parasite Eve, Kingdom Hearts, Mario & Luigi, etc...
Post by: MaryJane on September 21, 2007, 07:44:56 AM
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Originally posted by: KashogiStogi
It definitely reminded me of Pikmin, except you build things.
You say that like it's a bad thing...
Definitely looking forward to this game, the IGN article states that the game is
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admittedly influenced by games such as Civilization and Pikmin
Post by: Stogi on September 21, 2007, 08:18:42 AM
Anything that reminds me of Pikmin is worth at least a look.
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Post by: MaryJane on September 21, 2007, 11:25:56 AM
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A mix of Civilization and Pikmin? Oh no, this game will consume me. I'm having Deja Vu for when I was reading EGM and they described Animal Crossing as a mix of The Sims and Harvest Moon. And this pairing is even higher on my favorites list. Civ is my absolute favorite PC game series and I would call Pikmin 2 the best game on the GameCube. This is one of those times I wish the rest of my life had a pause button so I could just lose myself in this for a while.
I feel your pain
Post by: Kairon on September 21, 2007, 05:12:23 PM
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A mix of Civilization and Pikmin? Oh no, this game will consume me. I'm having Deja Vu for when I was reading EGM and they described Animal Crossing as a mix of The Sims and Harvest Moon. And this pairing is even higher on my favorites list. Civ is my absolute favorite PC game series and I would call Pikmin 2 the best game on the GameCube. This is one of those times I wish the rest of my life had a pause button so I could just lose myself in this for a while.
I feel your pain
Hurt me moar.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 22, 2007, 02:50:46 AM
Post by: anubis6789 on September 22, 2007, 03:54:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Turns out Yoko Shimomura did the music for the trailer (and probably for the whole game)... =D
In case names are not your strong suit, she did the music for Super Mario RPG, Parasite Eve, Kingdom Hearts, Mario & Luigi, etc...
Cool, I am glad I was not the only person captivated by the music in the trailer. I know of one soundtrack that I am going to have to get, even IF I do not get the game.
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Post by: EasyCure on September 23, 2007, 09:43:22 AM
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A mix of Civilization and Pikmin? Oh no, this game will consume me. I'm having Deja Vu for when I was reading EGM and they described Animal Crossing as a mix of The Sims and Harvest Moon. And this pairing is even higher on my favorites list. Civ is my absolute favorite PC game series and I would call Pikmin 2 the best game on the GameCube. This is one of those times I wish the rest of my life had a pause button so I could just lose myself in this for a while.
I feel your pain
Hurt me moar.
Kairon likes it rough... oh yeah
Post by: couchmonkey on September 24, 2007, 06:47:15 AM
Post by: Caliban on September 24, 2007, 02:18:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Turns out Yoko Shimomura did the music for the trailer (and probably for the whole game)... =D
Uh I think he might have arranged an already existing music for that trailer, I seem to recall it from an opera, classical music or something of that sort.
Even so, I really liked the voice-actors work on this trailer, it all seemed exquisite and I am even more looking forward for this game.
Also, the Pikmin like gameplay where you lead your people to war, treasure hunting, and whatnot was awesome.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 24, 2007, 02:31:54 PM
Yeah, I know, it's Ravel's Bolero...It's an awesome arrangement of it, though... =)
Post by: Caliban on September 25, 2007, 04:41:13 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 27, 2008, 08:20:09 PM
Winter 2008, published by XSEED Games (http://www.xseedgames.com/)...
Post by: Mario on May 27, 2008, 10:53:17 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 27, 2008, 10:56:28 PM
Won't stop it from being awesome, though... :cool;
Post by: Mario on May 27, 2008, 10:59:01 PM
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 24, 2008, 11:51:37 PM
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Post by: BeautifulShy on August 07, 2008, 04:55:32 PM
I like the idea behind this. The art style is appealing as well.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 03, 2008, 04:04:41 PM
Some tidbits I dragged out of the crappy babelfish translation:
~ Each NPC will have its own personality...
~ You can take as much time as you want to build up your kingdom (So it's not timed like Pikmin 1...)
~ Your reputation/control over your people depends on how far you are willing to go to help them...For instance, your villagers can come to you with requests, and if you fulfill them they'll obviously be happy with how you are doing your job...
~ LOCAL MULTIPLAYER SURPRISE INCOMING!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 03, 2008, 04:09:56 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 09, 2009, 06:12:28 PM
TGS 2008 trailer
Pikmin RPG without Pikmin
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 12, 2009, 02:39:50 PM
ha. ha. ha.
Post by: Caliban on January 12, 2009, 06:02:56 PM
Post by: vudu on January 22, 2009, 02:09:31 PM
Also, when the HELL did this game get pushed back to a May 15 release?!? Heads will roll!!
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 22, 2009, 05:04:56 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 22, 2009, 05:06:45 PM
I actually appreciate the new date...I already have too much to get these next two months as it is!
Yes this is a great first half for the Wii.
Post by: vudu on January 22, 2009, 05:41:37 PM
I actually appreciate the new date...I already have too much to get these next two months as it is!
Quit being selfish. Won't somebody please think of the children!
Post by: Stratos on February 23, 2009, 05:04:12 AM
Bare minimum the game is expected to take 20 hours. If you try to do everything the game offers then it could go as high as 80 they say.
Looks like the wait is worth it as the game just keeps getting better and better.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/956/956114p1.html (http://wii.ign.com/articles/956/956114p1.html)
Post by: Caliban on March 10, 2009, 09:29:59 PM
Damn nice, and it so similar to Pikmin in some parts that it makes me giddy.
Post by: Stratos on March 10, 2009, 10:02:41 PM
Quote from: GT Interview
Really we found that it would have been quite unnecessary to implement the motion sensor from the WiiMote
I like their philosophy. If it's unnecessary then don't add waggle needlessly.
I'm very excited for this game.
Post by: blackfootsteps on April 23, 2009, 04:21:13 AM
Also review links:
Edge (http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/review-little-king’s-story)
Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/little-kings-story-review?page=1)
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 23, 2009, 04:33:42 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 23, 2009, 12:09:27 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 23, 2009, 01:15:15 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 23, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
I guess developers like me.
Post by: vudu on April 23, 2009, 02:22:22 PM
Post by: Yoshidious on April 23, 2009, 03:47:52 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 23, 2009, 03:55:39 PM
It's being reported that Little King's Story does not support 60hz for its PAL release. The good news is that apparently it is not bordered like Madworld though, so it will only fully affect those who are used to running their Wii games in 480p.
Greg do you not have a 480p capable TV?
Post by: Yoshidious on April 23, 2009, 06:47:33 PM
It's being reported that Little King's Story does not support 60hz for its PAL release. The good news is that apparently it is not bordered like Madworld though, so it will only fully affect those who are used to running their Wii games in 480p.
Greg do you not have a 480p capable TV?
Yes I play everything in 480p where it's supported, which is just about everything these days.
Post by: Dasmos on April 24, 2009, 02:40:59 AM
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2009, 05:47:04 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 30, 2009, 06:51:27 AM
The lack of a Pikmin style usage of the c-stick is annoying especially when I'm trying to get up the ramps that I have constructed. Some little pin always seems to get stuck which involves going back down and retrieving the little rascal. Reading the manual, it does seem as though there will be a formation that I will eventually earn that will allow single file travel.
There are no IR or waggle controls at all, so far. IR would have been fantastic for aiming my throws when attacking enemies, digging up treasures etc.
Hopefully the US version gets 480p because it is quite noticeable but again I'm having too much fun with it to care much! World domi...I mean...uh, kingdom expansion... has never been this much fun!
edit: Dasmos: LKS is $50 at gametraders now.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 11, 2009, 02:51:50 PM
So this is coming out on July 21st. So 10 days till it's release in the states.Who plan's on gettting it?
Post by: jrlibrarian on July 11, 2009, 04:13:22 PM
Post by: vudu on July 11, 2009, 05:26:32 PM
Post by: Stratos on July 11, 2009, 08:47:11 PM
Already have it preordered from Amazon.com. I mean, who can resist the Onii figure bonus (http://www.amazon.com/Little-Kings-Story-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B001COVME6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1247347610&sr=8-1)? ;)
Do want much. ;D
Post by: Tanatoes on July 11, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
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Post by: Caliban on July 21, 2009, 10:26:58 PM
So this game is coming out today.Who plans on getting it?
It's shipping today. You can't get it. Tomorrow I will get the call, and away I go get me this game.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2009, 01:18:09 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2009, 02:23:14 PM
I was lucky my GameStop got ONE copy of Overload Dark Legend, since I (and no one else) pre-ordered it.
Post by: vudu on July 23, 2009, 02:25:33 PM
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Post by: Caliban on July 23, 2009, 02:48:12 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 23, 2009, 08:27:52 PM
Holy ****! I may be able to give first impressions of a game for once in years! :o
Post by: vudu on July 23, 2009, 10:06:15 PM
The game is great fun. If you like Pikmin you'll like this game. It's as simple as that. I imagine it shares a lot in common with My Life As A King, but since I haven't played that game I can't say for sure. You have individual citizens that you assign jobs to (farmer, soldier, carpenter, etc.) Each class has its own strengths and weaknesses. They can change jobs at any point (at least so far) but you still need to plan who you're taking with you into the world when you explore.
Oddly enough, the game has some ties to Animal Crossing, too. Every citizen has a name and a unique personality. They seem to be living their lives independent of me. They don't just stand around waiting for me to order them around. The farmers harvest carrots; the soldiers patrol my kingdom; the townsfolk talk amongst themselves. I get a briefing every morning about what's going on in my kingdom--I recently learned that Lily and Josh are falling in love!
The first 5 days were mostly linear, but it seems I've opened up some options now. Whereas before I could had one building I could construct at a time I now have several options--I can create a workshop so I can get carpenters, I can build fancy houses to attract more citizens, or I can get a power up to allow me to lead extra citizens at any one time. A huge chuck of world just opened up and I'm at a bit of a loss where I want to explore first. Additionally, I just built a suggestion box where my loyal subject can leave me notes. They open up goal-oriented quests where I need to defeat bosses and such.
One huge gripe: I can't believe there aren't pointer controls!! Such a let down! What a missed opportunity! That said, the game controls mostly fine without them. I can generally aim my citizens where I want them to go on the first try, and even when I don't, it's not that big of a deal. But it just seems like they're missing the point of the Wii. I wonder if it's because they plan to port the game to another system.
Regardless, you need to play this game. If you liked Pikmin you'll like this game. (It's as simple as that.)
Post by: Stratos on July 23, 2009, 11:44:37 PM
Post by: Tanatoes on July 24, 2009, 10:13:11 PM
I also am finding it striking how attached I get to the people in my village. I HATE having them die in battle... I just need to be a better commander I guess.
Very polished game though. Love the art style and the humor. (maybe a little too much bloom in places.. but I guess that's the next-gen way of sprucing up a game. Ever since Prince of Persia.) It feels like a combination of Pikmin and Cannon Fodder. I like.
Oh, and has anybody noticed the full color art on the disk? When did Nintendo switch from only two-tone disk art production?
Post by: Dasmos on July 25, 2009, 03:14:55 AM
Only just picked this up this week, which is a shame becasue I wasted months of bragging opportunities. But it's an absolute must-buy and it continues CING's hot streak. Speaking of CING, I probably have to get Another Code: R soon before you guys get a release date and I lose more bragging rights.
Still have Disaster to hold over your head though. 8)
Post by: vudu on July 25, 2009, 11:07:14 AM
Still have Disaster to hold over your head though. 8)
EXCITE BOTS
Post by: vudu on July 25, 2009, 11:53:03 AM
Post by: Tanatoes on July 25, 2009, 04:46:49 PM
Post by: vudu on July 25, 2009, 05:02:18 PM
I wonder if he'd actually follow through on his threat if I didn't build him a church. Someone here needs to not build a church (at least for a while) just to see what happens (if anything).
Post by: Dasmos on July 26, 2009, 03:39:39 AM
Still have Disaster to hold over your head though. 8)
EXCITE BOTS
Ouch. :(
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 28, 2009, 03:39:40 PM
Problem is, that triggers the OCD reflex in me where I absolutely cannot allow any of my citizens to die and will load the game if one does die.
The boss fights are pretty easy so far, but you can accidentally lose a citizen in a split second if you don't react in time. Other than that, it's wait until after a boss attacks, hurl all of your citizens onto it, then recall them before it executes its next attack (as evidenced by the steaming anger clouds), rinse, repeat.
All in all, a very enjoyable game and easy to play for hours at a a time.
Post by: vudu on July 28, 2009, 03:47:15 PM
I haven't experimented with it too much, so I don't know what happens if you lose more than one in a single day. You might only get one guy back or maybe both will come back on the same day or maybe they'll come back on each subsequent day. IT'S A MYSTERY.
Post by: Dasmos on July 29, 2009, 01:05:27 AM
I haven't put too many hours into this so far, but it's steadily taking hold of me. I have been trying to hold off until I get out of hospital tomorrow afternoon, because then I'll have a couple days of rest time to sink into it.
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 29, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
Post by: Urkel on July 31, 2009, 05:17:13 AM
It's giving me the same vibe I got from those old Quintet games like Actraiser and the Soulblazer series. You conquer more of the world and it slowly becomes more lively.
The lack of pointer controls is really the only significant problem I have with this game. If there are multiple enemies, I often can't target the one I want. I also don't like the fact that pressing the B button recalls ALL your guys. It wouldn't have to be that way if it used the pointer.
And yeah, having your guys "die" in battle isn't that big of a deal. I once lost 14 in a single boss battle and the next day all 14 were on the beach. After about 30 or 40 deaths, I've finally had one guy perma-die on me.
Post by: Stratos on July 31, 2009, 05:22:46 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 02, 2009, 11:28:37 AM
Not only is it an all around fantastic experience, but the hard mode is actually hard. This harkens back to a TRUE old school game, one where there's just an insane amount of actual gaming content to digest. I've just procured my 2nd princess and now this one has her own quest for me.
And the other kings are awesome. The short cutscenes that play before you fight them are well done and wonderfully bizarre. This game has everything, action, strategy, micromanagement, the works.
Every Wii owner should buy this game, period.
Pro, stop playing Wii Sports Resort and buy this. :p This is one 3rd party that ain't making excuses.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 02, 2009, 05:32:46 PM
I'll pickup that hour of gameplay I left off with King maybe in 2011. Rune Factory Frontier has given me plenty to do already, and it's from the same publisher.
Chill-out and quit playing games 26 hours a day, you raging non-casual. Archery and Table Tennis played fine for more than an hour after a single table-calibration, so =P
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 02, 2009, 07:05:52 PM
Chill-out and quit playing games 26 hours a day, you raging non-casual.
I wish.
This is the first game in years that has REALLY made me wish I had more time to play games.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 02, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
Consider this a warning. You two have the right to enjoy whatever games you want but no need to argue about it.
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 02, 2009, 09:59:55 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 02, 2009, 10:07:52 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 03, 2009, 12:34:43 AM
This is the first time I feel a 3rd party has REALLY delivered on the Wii, and I mean AAA title, hands down, no question.
I had believed that it was impossible for me to get addicted to games anymore, like I was beyond it, but LKS has reversed that trend for the first time in years.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 03, 2009, 02:44:47 AM
TBH, I have no idea how the game is selling, only that it's a phenomenal game and that I hope it sells well.
This is the first time I feel a 3rd party has REALLY delivered on the Wii, and I mean AAA title, hands down, no question.
I had believed that it was impossible for me to get addicted to games anymore, like I was beyond it, but LKS has reversed that trend for the first time in years.
I'd argue that Tiger Woods 10 is an absolute hands down AAA game, but everything I hear about this game is positive and I plan to buy it as soon as I have money.
Post by: Stratos on August 03, 2009, 04:07:27 AM
In fact, LKS and Rune Factory are my next planned purchases.
VGChartz gives it 50k in 'others' and 17k in Americas. I'm going to guess 60-70k for August.
Post by: noname2200 on August 03, 2009, 10:16:58 PM
If you haven't played it yet, do yourself a favor and pick it up soon. You won't be disappointed.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 06, 2009, 01:39:41 AM
TBH, I have no idea how the game is selling, only that it's a phenomenal game and that I hope it sells well.
This is the first time I feel a 3rd party has REALLY delivered on the Wii, and I mean AAA title, hands down, no question.
I had believed that it was impossible for me to get addicted to games anymore, like I was beyond it, but LKS has reversed that trend for the first time in years.
I think the reason you are so impressed and addicted to LKS is because you had absolutely zero expectations for it and when you finally played it the title met your expectations and then some. I know because it has happened to me. I've found a game that was very obscure only to hail it as the best thing ever.
Yet, I am sure that if someone saw all the great word of mouth the game has gotten and plays it expecting the fantastic game everyone says it is the game will not live up to the hype. Because then expectations were set based on what people said.
This is why I tend to take every comment with a grain of salt because, let's face it, people can both greatly exaggerate a game's flaws or qualities.
Post by: Stratos on August 06, 2009, 01:55:03 AM
I still say buy them AND LKS ;)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 06, 2009, 02:03:32 AM
Zack and Wiki I admit was a game that surprised me despite all the hype the game had. I was merely expecting a cute game. But when I finally played it I was blown away by how clever, inventive and beautiful. I pretty much acted exactly the way SB is acting with LKS; I deemed it a triple AAA title.
Meanwhile, I recently bought Madworld and haven't even played 2 hours worth of gameplay. I thought it was good but something about it hasn't moved me to complete it (then again, I have other games that are in the same state).
But now I am derailing the thread.
Post by: Stratos on August 06, 2009, 02:15:23 AM
So tomorrow I go to my local indie game shop to move forward with project SXC. Hope they have it in stock since it is a little store.
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 06, 2009, 11:42:09 AM
How much is the game?
Post by: vudu on August 06, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
I think the reason you are so impressed and addicted to LKS is because you had absolutely zero expectations for it and when you finally played it the title met your expectations and then some.
Not necessarily true. For almost a year I've been saying that LKS is my #1 most anticipated game of 2009 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=20077.msg506260#msg506260) and I'm still loving it. My only complaint (other than no pointer controls and horrible path detection by the townsfolk) is that the game is almost too open. They don't give you much direction at all and I find myself not knowing what to do next because there's so damn much stuff to do.
After you beat the Onii King you learn that there are six other kingdoms to conquer. However, the game doesn't give you any order to follow. Some of the paths are blocked off because I don't yet have the necessary jobs unlocked to get to where I need to go, but the game doesn't specifically tell you that, so you're left up to your own means to discover where to go next. It's a little daunting. (But fun!)
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 06, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 06, 2009, 04:35:42 PM
I think the reason you are so impressed and addicted to LKS is because you had absolutely zero expectations for it and when you finally played it the title met your expectations and then some.
Not necessarily true. For almost a year I've been saying that LKS is my #1 most anticipated game of 2009 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=20077.msg506260#msg506260) and I'm still loving it.
Player experiences are always different. I already said that the game is solid and good since the reviews have been highly favorable. But what I mean is that the final value is given by the player and is affected by how he or she perceives it. In your case you were anticipating the game and since it was solid your expectations were met. I, however, am talking about an individual who likely didn't know much about the game so when he played it its likely that it left a much bigger impact on him than it did on you (seriously considering that he trolled the Wii Sports Resort thread to tell people to finish that game and buy LKS its hard to deny LKS left a much bigger impact on SB than it did on other players :p ).
Post by: Stratos on August 06, 2009, 04:53:51 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 06, 2009, 05:20:19 PM
How do you get more jobs though. I have the farmer and soldier jobs so far.
Post by: vudu on August 06, 2009, 05:22:01 PM
Post by: noname2200 on August 07, 2009, 11:07:32 AM
Post by: Ymeegod on August 07, 2009, 02:15:32 PM
I hope xseed patches this because it's the one glarring flaw with the game. Yeah, it doesn't have a hardcore following and it's not flying off the shelves because it was rated "T". Bleh video game rating system is a joke if this game deserved a T, should have been E IMO.
Post by: vudu on August 07, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
I'm curious if anyone here knows what the scarecrow in the forest is all about. I've seen him with Verde in some artworks, but I can't interact with him in any way, and I've already beaten the game.
I'm still early in the game, but so far I've run into two scarecrows. Not sure if either of these are what you're talking about.
The first is in an alcove directly to the east of the spa next to your village (near the guy with the art gallery). You fight him during one of the early quests.
The second is in the middle of a water melon patch to the southwest of your village. He attacks automatically, so I doubt this is the one you're referring to.
If neither of those are what you're talking about I haven't a clue.
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
I hope xseed patches this because it's the one glarring flaw with the game. Yeah, it doesn't have a hardcore following and it's not flying off the shelves because it was rated "T". Bleh video game rating system is a joke if this game deserved a T, should have been E IMO.
Alcohol references and polygamy.
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 07, 2009, 02:48:13 PM
I think the reason you are so impressed and addicted to LKS is because you had absolutely zero expectations for it and when you finally played it the title met your expectations and then some. I know because it has happened to me. I've found a game that was very obscure only to hail it as the best thing ever.
I don't think this is the case because I have no expectations for any games these days and I'm inevitably finding that I'm still only mildly amused by most of them. As you get older and your time gets more valuable, you can't afford to simply spend 30 hours playing through games anymore, but I'm MAKING time for LKS, something I haven't done in some time.
It has been ages since I've had a game cause me to go to bed late and wake up early. The last time I did that was when the Wii launched and I woke up to play some more Red Steel and try out Wii Sports.
I had only rented LKS through gamefly but I decided to buy it. It's too good of a game NOT to buy.
And the reason I think it's such an AAA title is not just because the gameplay is incredibly fun but because the game is dripping with unnecessary polish: the areas of your kingdom are filled with unique houses, each one lovingly-crafted by a graphic artist, full of detail. You might not even wind up SEEING this detail, though, as you primarily use a system of cannons to navigate the game world.
This is a rare case where a developer went above and beyond the call of duty on a game. There's just so much content here and so much that I'm inevitably missing that I can't help but be impressed.
Post by: noname2200 on August 07, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
I'm curious if anyone here knows what the scarecrow in the forest is all about. I've seen him with Verde in some artworks, but I can't interact with him in any way, and I've already beaten the game.
I'm still early in the game, but so far I've run into two scarecrows. Not sure if either of these are what you're talking about.
The first is in an alcove directly to the east of the spa next to your village (near the guy with the art gallery). You fight him during one of the early quests.
The second is in the middle of a water melon patch to the southwest of your village. He attacks automatically, so I doubt this is the one you're referring to.
If neither of those are what you're talking about I haven't a clue.
It was the first one, actually. Thanks! I guess I just never wound up getting that quest assigned to me. Hopefully I'll have better luck this time.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2009, 07:35:33 PM
Post by: noname2200 on August 10, 2009, 12:40:35 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2009, 12:44:05 PM
Post by: vudu on August 10, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
There's only a "leave your King alone, I need Me-Time" function, right?
Not unless you're in your kingdom. When you go exploring you have to keep everyone with you at all times.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
Single-A game.
Post by: noname2200 on August 10, 2009, 07:50:23 PM
I see.
Single-A game.
Nah, it's at least a double. The funny part is that it has a few serious problems, and yet it's incredibly addictive in spite of that. It's one of my favorite games of this year, even with the issues.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2009, 10:53:17 PM
He liked Sonic and the Black Knight :p .
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 11, 2009, 12:22:30 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 11, 2009, 12:50:27 AM
Post by: noname2200 on August 11, 2009, 01:44:59 PM
I'm on the last boss fight right now but I decided to wait until I can play it with the sound on (when Athena isn't trying to sleep, I mean).
I have to admit that the last fight was something of a letdown: it dragged on way too long. I'm also not sure what the ending meant, exactly, although it was something of a downer. The lead up to it was fantastic, though, and Tyrant Mode is a very brisk challenge.
Post by: Stratos on August 11, 2009, 05:05:09 PM
I'm on the last boss fight right now but I decided to wait until I can play it with the sound on (when Athena isn't trying to sleep, I mean).
I have to admit that the last fight was something of a letdown: it dragged on way too long. I'm also not sure what the ending meant, exactly, although it was something of a downer. The lead up to it was fantastic, though, and Tyrant Mode is a very brisk challenge.
Maybe there is a hidden ending once ou get 100% or something with a 'true' final boss?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
Post by: Stratos on August 12, 2009, 01:21:54 AM
Though they don't get a lot of copies of games in the first place unless there is going to be a sure demand for it.
Post by: noname2200 on August 12, 2009, 12:53:34 PM
My local indie game store said the game wasn't a big seller. :/
Though they don't get a lot of copies of games in the first place unless there is going to be a sure demand for it.
Sales-wise, LKS is the smallest of the small fry. The big-box stores don't even carry it...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 12, 2009, 01:13:33 PM
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 02:05:31 PM
Post by: Stratos on August 15, 2009, 06:03:35 PM
Help?
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 15, 2009, 06:11:23 PM
Most of your tasks will take place in your throne room. You are the king after all and need to tell your servents what to do.
Post by: Stratos on August 15, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
I'll look again and see if I missed one more easy treasure.
OK, figured it out. There were some bushes that I could pull that hid another hole with enough money to build something. It helped when I did the Z Targeting because it shows the things I could interact with and that's how I discovered the bushes could be pulled. Now we're getting somewhere!
Post by: noname2200 on August 20, 2009, 11:39:21 PM
Post by: Kairon on August 30, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
This game is epic...and frankly, pretty core. &>
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 30, 2009, 10:59:54 PM
I haven't had much experience with Pikmin like titles but this is a keeper.
Post by: Mop it up on August 30, 2009, 11:37:00 PM
This game sounds pretty good, I might have to get it. Though I have one question: how difficult is it? I know some people said that it lacks direction, but that isn't really a problem unless it's difficult to get around.
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 30, 2009, 11:47:34 PM
It isn't that hard to get around. As far as difficultly goes it isn't that hard you just got to pace yourself when you fight. Play smart.
Post by: vudu on August 31, 2009, 02:13:45 PM
And even though I said it's easy, I don't mean to imply battles are a cakewalk. If you aren't prepared your troops will get slaughtered. Early on you can brute-force your way through most battles, but after a while you need to plan out your strategy if you want to win.
Post by: Stratos on August 31, 2009, 03:19:33 PM
Plus the game has a lot of Nintendo-esque charm in my opinion.
Post by: Kairon on September 02, 2009, 02:05:41 AM
The first couple mini-bosses are simple enough, but the first real major boss requires a very specific strategy, as well as a little endurance: no three-hit-kills here!
Also, since I absolutely HATE the idea of losing anyone, I reset as soon as someone dies.
Post by: Stratos on September 02, 2009, 01:57:20 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 02, 2009, 05:45:32 PM
And even though I said it's easy, I don't mean to imply battles are a cakewalk. If you aren't prepared your troops will get slaughtered. Early on you can brute-force your way through most battles, but after a while you need to plan out your strategy if you want to win.I don't mind that. Usually I take my time with games like this so I shouldn't have a problem being prepared. So long as you don't have to follow an exact strategy and can't make even one small mistake then I should be fine. There's always GameFAQs too, and I don't mind looking up a guide with a game like this because I don't want to have to replay whole sections because I did something stupid.
Post by: vudu on September 03, 2009, 02:59:16 PM
Is it the day after the festival that you get your fallen townies back? I went there the day of the festival and saw some jars but couldn't get anyone to open them. And the day after the festival there were no townies on the beach. I lost two guys there.
If you suffer casualties during a boss battle they'll generally appear on the beach the day after the festival. But again, not always--it seems to be random whether they'll come back. However, it's weird that you'd lose two guys and neither would come back. Are you sure you don't still have them? That happened to me once--I lost a guy and the next day he wasn't on the beach, but he somehow found his way back into my party. I guess it was a glitch where he still came back, the game just forgot to tell me.
Post by: decoyman on September 04, 2009, 01:47:11 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 04, 2009, 03:59:05 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 04, 2009, 04:18:04 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 04, 2009, 05:35:11 PM
Picked the game up yesterday, haven't tried it yet though!
Not playing games right away must be the lastest NWR-wide theme.
Post by: Stratos on September 04, 2009, 07:12:10 PM
Picked the game up yesterday, haven't tried it yet though!
Not playing games right away must be the lastest NWR-wide theme.
It's the cool thing to do. Buy the games and start a whole shelf dedicated to holding them forever preserved in their shrink-wrapped beauty. It's the new e-peen: "My stack of unplayed games is bigger than your stack".
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 04, 2009, 09:42:51 PM
Picked the game up yesterday, haven't tried it yet though!
Not playing games right away must be the lastest NWR-wide theme.
For the record I was doing this LONG before it became a theme. I was an originator (Looks at my copy of Scarface for Wii still sealed).
Post by: Mop it up on September 05, 2009, 12:57:07 AM
Same here. I've bought more games than I could ever hope to play, and I'm not even that busy of a person.Picked the game up yesterday, haven't tried it yet though!
Not playing games right away must be the lastest NWR-wide theme.
For the record I was doing this LONG before it became a theme.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 05, 2009, 01:10:19 AM
Post by: Kairon on September 05, 2009, 01:16:22 AM
Also... this game has... well... a turkey who sets up a church and gives sermons like the following: "Man can live on bread and egss alone, but soup is the only path to salvation. Ramen."
(Looks at my copy of Scarface for Wii still sealed).
Wow, you too?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 05, 2009, 01:20:22 AM
Post by: Mop it up on September 05, 2009, 01:48:50 AM
Post by: vudu on September 05, 2009, 09:46:43 AM
The awesome things is that this game looks like it'll be an immense value. I mean, I've only beat one of the seven major bosses, and I'm 12 hours in. I seriously think this could be a 40 hours game for me... and that's if I try to speed up!
There are sections of the game where you could theoretically beat 2 or 3 bosses in under an hour if you wanted to. It's not really set up with the traditional 'play-a-level-then-beat-a-boss' structure. It's more like 'explore-an-area-that-branches-off-to-multiple-bosses-and-you-can-beat-any-or-all-of-them-right-now-if-you-choose-or-you-can-spend-a-few-hours-doing-side-quests-or-expanding-your-village-you-know-it's-really-your-call'. ;)
Then again, I've beat 5 of the major bosses and I'm 25 hours in so your 40 hours guess probably isn't too far off. Then again, I've completed every side quest that's been made available, so I'm not exactly trying to play through quickly.
For the record I was doing this LONG before it became a theme. I was an originator (Looks at my copy of Scarface for Wii still sealed).
Same here. I've bought more games than I could ever hope to play, and I'm not even that busy of a person.
GP and Mop have the largest penises here. Who would have guessed?
EDIT: I just learned that you can collect taxes from your citizens by sending your troops into any building that doesn't give them a new job! Some of them even give you treasure and paintings, so it's important to do this! There are so many things in this game that are completely left up to you to discover.
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to destroy the eggs that you see lying around on the other side of Bony Tunnel? I just beat King Omelet and now there are small eggs by where he used to be. There's also the huge one outside of the entrance to his kingdom and I have no idea how to get rid of it.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 05, 2009, 03:50:57 PM
Post by: Stratos on September 05, 2009, 04:40:09 PM
Little King's Story (http://www.amazon.com/Little-Kings-Story-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B001COVME6/ref=xs_gb_A3QT70D5NE5POK?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pfRdReplace=1) for Wii is in the Amazon gold box for $29.98 for the next 4 hours, or until sold out.
Just thought I would share that here. Stele posted it in the deals thread. Still a bit of time left of copies are still available. Go for it!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 05, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
Post by: noname2200 on September 06, 2009, 10:06:07 PM
Post by: Kairon on September 07, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
Post by: Stratos on September 07, 2009, 03:48:15 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on September 07, 2009, 07:12:14 PM
It's a crime it didn't sell better--still wish they fixed targertting though anybody hear more about a patch?
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 07, 2009, 07:18:32 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on September 07, 2009, 08:00:49 PM
Just wished they fixed the controls--IR support and maybe some smarter AI scripts but I'll just take IR for now. The directional aim thing they have going for them doesn't work all that well and is really the only thing from keeping it a A rated game.
Post by: decoyman on September 07, 2009, 08:32:47 PM
One thing I don't quite understand—and keep in mind this is without playing it yet... but why'd they market it with such a Fisher-Price visual style? Both the title and box art would turn me off if I were just seeing this randomly in a store and not knowing that the gameplay was apparently such fun. Even still, I felt a little stupid asking about about availability of a game called "Little King's Story" on the phone. Though this might also be because Little King is a Subway-type sandwich chain in my area, lol. As it is, there seems to be a disparity between the complex gameplay and the presentation.
Meh, just wondering about that.
Post by: Kairon on September 07, 2009, 10:36:15 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 07, 2009, 11:20:42 PM
This was totally developed in Japan right? Maybe everyone involved in the process simply didn't anticipate the idea that youth can carry its own sort of stigma.
Yes, it was made by Cing who also developed Trace Memory and Hotel Dusk.
Post by: noname2200 on September 08, 2009, 08:43:34 PM
Dang! I wish I'd checked the forums on Friday for that Goldbox deal... picked it up from TRU for full-price instead. Super-excited to play it, though I've promised myself not to try it out until I get some much-needed cleaning done in my apartment...
One thing I don't quite understand—and keep in mind this is without playing it yet... but why'd they market it with such a Fisher-Price visual style? Both the title and box art would turn me off if I were just seeing this randomly in a store and not knowing that the gameplay was apparently such fun. Even still, I felt a little stupid asking about about availability of a game called "Little King's Story" on the phone. Though this might also be because Little King is a Subway-type sandwich chain in my area, lol. As it is, there seems to be a disparity between the complex gameplay and the presentation.
Meh, just wondering about that.
It was a bit of a mistake, yes (although personally it's also what first attracted me to the title), but I can tell you that in the end you get *something* of an explanation for why the whole world is presented in such a child-like manner.
Of course, that same would-be explanation just makes other aspects of the game that much more disturbing...
Post by: decoyman on September 10, 2009, 05:51:12 PM
I've played quite a bit of this game now, and the gameplay has me addicted. It's just excellent, and is really hitting my "Pikmin craving" I've had for awhile. Don't get me wrong, the game definitely has some serious style and polish, and I've been able to overlook my issues with the presentation... I just disagree with the decision to needlessly take it in a "kiddeh" direction.
P.S. – That "the story makes it make sense" shouldn't really need to come into it, as that's cart-before-the-horse territory. But noname2200, I'm honestly pretty curious to figure out what that means now. :P
Post by: noname2200 on September 10, 2009, 09:37:15 PM
And don't let me oversell you on the "explanation" part. I stand by what I said, but I do have to emphasize the "something" part of my statement: they never outright say "and this is why we went with this artstyle." But I made a connection pretty quickly, and I think it fits. Whether that connection was intended (or would occur to most) I can't really say, since almost no one's played this game, but...well. beat the game, and you might see what I mean. I'll be happy to compare notes then! :-)
Post by: decoyman on September 11, 2009, 12:06:18 PM
DON'T LEAVE I'M SERIOUS.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2009, 12:32:00 PM
Post by: decoyman on September 11, 2009, 12:41:33 PM
I love the visual style in the game, no complaints from me.
It's not necessarily that I have a problem with the visual style itself... it's just that it doesn't fit the complexity of the gameplay so much. And, well, I guess I do have a problem with it: despite it being very polished and functional, it needlessly alienates a large portion of the game's potential audience. It's "exclusive" instead of "inclusive," like Pikmin was. Boolean "OR" instead of "AND." Noodles or rice – not both. BLUE NOT GREEN. Yeah.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2009, 12:50:05 PM
I love the visual style in the game, no complaints from me.
It's not necessarily that I have a problem with the visual style itself... it's just that it doesn't fit the complexity of the gameplay so much. And, well, I guess I do have a problem with it: despite it being very polished and functional, it needlessly alienates a large portion of the game's potential audience. It's "exclusive" instead of "inclusive," like Pikmin was. Boolean "OR" instead of "AND." Noodles or rice – not both. BLUE NOT GREEN. Yeah.
Doesn't exclude me, I wouldn't have the style any other way, it is unique and fun, adds to the quirky atmosphere!
Post by: decoyman on September 11, 2009, 01:24:06 PM
Doesn't exclude me, I wouldn't have the style any other way, it is unique and fun, ads to the quirky atmosphere!
Well, lucky you, apparently you're Blue. I'm kind of a Spring Green. Any more yellow and I'd be taking a pass on this game instead of giving them my $50! =o
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2009, 01:25:42 PM
Doesn't exclude me, I wouldn't have the style any other way, it is unique and fun, ads to the quirky atmosphere!
Well, lucky you, apparently you're Blue. I'm kind of a Spring Green. Any more yellow and I'd be taking a pass on this game instead of giving them my $50! =o
Well I'm right and you are wrong. As long as we can agree on that we're fine. ;)
Post by: Mop it up on September 12, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
As an aside, this game puts my collection at 666 according to GameFAQs. I hope this isn't a bad sign that something sinister will happen when I play it...
Post by: Stratos on September 12, 2009, 06:18:34 PM
As an aside, this game puts my collection at 666 according to GameFAQs. I hope this isn't a bad sign that something sinister will happen when I play it...
Your Wii will evolve into Skynet, thus ending humanity's existence as we know it.
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 12, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
Post by: noname2200 on September 15, 2009, 10:06:02 PM
*Realizes he needs to use the restroom soon*
Post by: decoyman on September 16, 2009, 10:00:51 AM
Hey, weird question... I have a theory that the better your people like you, the more likely they are to wash up at the beach... Do you guys think that's one of the "five" whatevers (can't remember what Kampbell called it) of Over There Beach's magical resurrection powers?
Post by: Mop it up on September 16, 2009, 05:36:06 PM
The Wii makes a lot of noise when trying to read the disc, and then it returns an error message which says "An error has occurred".
Before I take it back to the store, does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
Post by: Stratos on September 16, 2009, 05:41:04 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 16, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
Post by: vudu on September 16, 2009, 05:46:34 PM
Post by: Stratos on September 16, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 16, 2009, 05:52:03 PM
I know people who have a Wii but I don't think I'll bother with that. I checked GameFAQs and other people have had the same problem, and apparently the publisher is aware that some copies are defective.
Now I just need to decide if I'm going to return it to the store or contact the manufacturer (the store had only one copy when I was there).
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 16, 2009, 06:14:30 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 16, 2009, 06:22:41 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 16, 2009, 06:36:38 PM
I would personally send it back to the manufacter.
Post by: Dasmos on September 16, 2009, 10:49:35 PM
I would personally send it back to the manufacter.
No, don't do that. That would take ages to get a replacement, just take it back to the store and let them send it back to the manafacturer.
Also I basically finished this the other day, main quest at least. It makes me crave more or at least some Pikmin action.
Post by: Mop it up on September 17, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
Post by: vudu on September 17, 2009, 09:46:52 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 17, 2009, 09:53:13 PM
Post by: vudu on September 17, 2009, 09:58:41 PM
If you're really worried you can always purchase the game used since that means it's already been tested. ;)
Post by: Mop it up on September 17, 2009, 10:08:39 PM
Good point about the used copy though. I wonder how much GameStop charges? I don't know if I can bring myself to buy it if it is the same or barely less than a new copy...
Post by: vudu on September 17, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 19, 2009, 09:39:45 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 19, 2009, 10:59:51 PM
Anyways, I stopped in GameStop today to see if they had the game. The guy said that I was the first person to buy the game ever since they received it. Though not so surprising that a game like this isn't such a hot seller, it is still kind of disappointing to hear that nobody has bought the game from that store. I guess that must be why they are having the sale, to clear out their inventory.
With this being a copy from the first batch that GameStop received, I put it in my system expecting to get an error message. Luckily, this one appears to work. To celebrate... I played Mario Kart Wii. :-\
Post by: Mop it up on September 24, 2009, 02:08:02 AM
Augh, double post, can't be helped.
Post by: decoyman on September 24, 2009, 10:57:18 AM
So I have a question. Are the items which the random merchants add to the Kingdom Plan actually legit? Because they seem kind of iffy, I have this feeling that a message would pop up which says something along the lines of "the merchant ran off with the money!" or some such nonsense.
Get all of the merchant upgrades. They're really useful/important (even the seemingly stupid ones alarm clock), and I'm not sure they come around again if you say no... Better to just say yes. :)
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2009, 01:32:47 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 24, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2009, 05:50:24 PM
Post by: Mop it up on September 24, 2009, 05:54:12 PM
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2009, 08:53:49 PM
as far as I can tell, all enemy attacks take away only one life point.
This may be true early in the game, but it's not later.
Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2009, 11:35:03 AM
Post by: Mop it up on October 14, 2009, 06:02:41 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 14, 2009, 06:35:15 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 14, 2009, 06:39:27 PM
Several people from GameFAQs have said that, when they received their exchange for a defective copy from XSEED, the "little something extra" they sent back was a free copy of Rune Factory Frontier. Too bad I didn't choose to go that route, as then I'd have gotten that game for free. But if anyone gets a defective copy then you should send it to them and see if you can get that freebie.
Well they have to get rid of their stock someway. The desert has no room left after ETs abomination was buried. It is cursed land now, so what else do you do when you can't sell a game? Give it away of course!
Post by: Stratos on October 15, 2009, 03:43:37 AM
Post by: Mop it up on October 15, 2009, 03:46:57 AM
Post by: decoyman on October 15, 2009, 05:56:00 PM
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noname? where'd you go?
Post by: Mop it up on October 15, 2009, 06:03:58 PM
Be sure to use spoiler tags.
Post by: decoyman on October 16, 2009, 11:14:39 AM
I also have to agree with noname's post from awhile back that the theme, the style, the whole presentation is really entwined together, and—even though I still don't really think it HAD to be done that way—it actually makes the direction make sense, considering the fact that everything took place inside the little puppet theater, born of the kid's imagination/daydreams/musings/memories. The only thing about the ending that confused me was, if it was a dream like it seemed, how could Kid Corobo have seen King Corobo when he woke up? Are they saying that his intense imagination actually made his daydreams real??? Or maybe he's just schizo? Haha, I don't know. I think I'm reading too much into it. What did you think?
With this and Rune Factory Frontier, I'm playing my Wii more than I have in months... think I'm gonna have to join Stratos' SXC campaign. :)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 16, 2009, 11:38:46 AM
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the whole presentation is really entwined together
That is why you should listen more to the person who you are a number 1 fan of.
Post by: Stratos on October 16, 2009, 05:50:05 PM
With this and Rune Factory Frontier, I'm playing my Wii more than I have in months... think I'm gonna have to join Stratos' SXC campaign. :)
Join project Sexy!
I need to get back to playing this game. I think I'll have some time tonight so I'm going to have a rare multi-hour play session. I hope I don't have to stay late at work.
Post by: Mop it up on October 16, 2009, 06:54:33 PM
If I'd known my special rocket ship girl (I chose Verde :( )would get fricking eaten by a giant rat, I would've brought someone I didn't like very much.Yeah, that did seem a bit odd. I wonder what would happen if you chose the fat princess? Too big to eat maybe? Probably not. Also, I didn't know you could choose Verde, I thought you had to pick a princess...?
actually makes the direction make sense, considering the fact that everything took place inside the little puppet theater, born of the kid's imagination/daydreams/musings/memories.Yeah, towards the end I actually kind of wondered if that were going to be the case. Especially with Noname mentioning that the ending offered a sort of explanation. Did you read the notebook in the kid's room? It seems to suggest that the people who populated the world were based off people he had met. For example, he said he had a uncle who drinks too much which is clearly King Duvroc. And he had a neighbor who thought he was the greatest because he was so tall, who was probably King Long Sauvage. But what is kind of sad, if true, is that he mentioned that his grandfather had died last year and became a knight up in heaven; this was most likely Howser the Bull Knight.
At least, that was my understanding of that.
if it was a dream like it seemed, how could Kid Corobo have seen King Corobo when he woke up? Are they saying that his intense imagination actually made his daydreams real??? Or maybe he's just schizo?That's the part I didn't understand. I honestly can't figure out what that was supposed to represent. But, then I wonder, who was this "God" that was referred to throughout the game? This "God" left memos on how to beat each king, so was "God" actually the little kid? He himself was his own god? WHAT? I DON'T KNOW!
...Did I just break the forum rules?
Post by: noname2200 on October 26, 2009, 04:47:24 PM
If I'd known my special rocket ship girl (I chose Verde :( )would get fricking eaten by a giant rat, I would've brought someone I didn't like very much.Yeah, that did seem a bit odd. I wonder what would happen if you chose the fat princess? Too big to eat maybe? Probably not. Also, I didn't know you could choose Verde, I thought you had to pick a princess...?actually makes the direction make sense, considering the fact that everything took place inside the little puppet theater, born of the kid's imagination/daydreams/musings/memories.Yeah, towards the end I actually kind of wondered if that were going to be the case. Especially with Noname mentioning that the ending offered a sort of explanation. Did you read the notebook in the kid's room? It seems to suggest that the people who populated the world were based off people he had met. For example, he said he had a uncle who drinks too much which is clearly King Duvroc. And he had a neighbor who thought he was the greatest because he was so tall, who was probably King Long Sauvage. But what is kind of sad, if true, is that he mentioned that his grandfather had died last year and became a knight up in heaven; this was most likely Howser the Bull Knight.
At least, that was my understanding of that.if it was a dream like it seemed, how could Kid Corobo have seen King Corobo when he woke up? Are they saying that his intense imagination actually made his daydreams real??? Or maybe he's just schizo?That's the part I didn't understand. I honestly can't figure out what that was supposed to represent. But, then I wonder, who was this "God" that was referred to throughout the game? This "God" left memos on how to beat each king, so was "God" actually the little kid? He himself was his own god? WHAT? I DON'T KNOW!
...Did I just break the forum rules?
Good questions all around, and they're all the ones I wondered when I went through it. In Tyrant Mode, Pancho makes it pretty clear that Kid Corobo is, in fact, "God" in this world, but how King Corobo came to be is never explained. I did like the little snippets that showed where all the major characters came from.
And I'm glad I begrudgingly took Verde with me, as she kind of got on my nerves. Once I knew what was coming though, I picked Ferne. I could think of no more appropriate a fate for that gold-digger...
Spoiler-tagging is fun!
Post by: vudu on October 26, 2009, 04:58:35 PM
Post by: Stratos on October 26, 2009, 05:01:52 PM
I'm catching up on the back episodes of RFN and I'm listening to them talk about LKS right now.
Post by: noname2200 on October 26, 2009, 05:08:06 PM
I, too, picked Ferne, but for a completely different reason. I <3 Ferne. :-*
Hey, don't get me wrong, her picture went up in my bedroom, and all over the castle...
Post by: vudu on October 26, 2009, 05:29:21 PM
Hey, don't get me wrong, her picture went up in my bedroom, and all over the castle...
I picked the mushroom-tan girl (#3 or #4 from the fan art) for my mantle. ;D
Post by: decoyman on October 27, 2009, 01:18:47 PM
You know, this brings up a major issue I have with video games these days. GIVE ME A FREAKING HAPPY ENDING, OK??? Let me have a chance to save my girl. Heck, this bothered me about Metroid Prime 3, too: developers, you spend all this time and effort getting to know these characters, give me an option – make it really difficult to do, I don't care – to save them somehow. It sucked having to fight the bounty hunters in boss battles, even though they were pretty epic and awesome battles...
If I'd known my special rocket ship girl (I chose Verde :( )would get fricking eaten by a giant rat, I would've brought someone I didn't like very much.Yeah, that did seem a bit odd. I wonder what would happen if you chose the fat princess? Too big to eat maybe? Probably not. Also, I didn't know you could choose Verde, I thought you had to pick a princess...?
Oh, Spumoni... :D I was always concerned she was going to appear at the foot of my bed in the morning, and I'd be missing a leg or have a chunk taken out of my "dumpling" butt. Ahahaha, she was weird.
...In Tyrant Mode, Pancho makes it pretty clear that Kid Corobo is, in fact, "God" in this world...
So there are differences other than just the difficulty in Tyrant mode? Probably not many, but... still, interesting...
Post by: noname2200 on October 27, 2009, 03:30:28 PM
...In Tyrant Mode, Pancho makes it pretty clear that Kid Corobo is, in fact, "God" in this world...
So there are differences other than just the difficulty in Tyrant mode? Probably not many, but... still, interesting...
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That was pretty much the only one, actually. Oh, the ending is "extended" via a single extra picture at the end, but that's all I noticed.
Post by: Mop it up on October 27, 2009, 06:37:00 PM
Is Corobo the default name for the controlled character?
Did anyone else notice this? When the king has two life points left, he grows a beard. When he has one life point left, his hair turns gray. That seems really strange to me...
Post by: decoyman on October 27, 2009, 09:25:51 PM
Is Corobo the default name for the controlled character?
Did anyone else notice this? When the king has two life points left, he grows a beard. When he has one life point left, his hair turns gray. That seems really strange to me...
Yeah, pretty sure Corobo was the default name.
And actually, I thought he grew a beard when he'd been up all day long... But the gray hair is for sure when he has one point. Actually, all your townspeople turn old when they have a single life point left. It's kinda funny. I dismissed my guard and talked to one of the old dudes, and he started talking about getting old and missing the vigor of his youth, or something like that. Clever touch. :P
Post by: Stratos on October 27, 2009, 11:11:16 PM
Post by: Mop it up on October 28, 2009, 12:08:42 AM
But the gray hair is for sure when he has one point. Actually, all your townspeople turn old when they have a single life point left. It's kinda funny.But it is supposed to be some sort of symbolism or something? It seems a bit too weird to be done randomly.
I get sad when they get old and die before my eyes too.That can happen?
Giving them specific names didn't help either as I can notice wen I stop seeing a certain name in the town and feel sad.I think that makes you more careful with your units so you're not just treating them as tools.
What's funny about it is that, although I didn't usually lose more than one person, it was always the same person, Lily. She got body-slammed by the giant cow boss, poisoned and trampled by the giant mushroom, eaten by the giant frog, etc. I'm not really sure why it was always her but she's quite a trooper indeed!
Post by: decoyman on October 28, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
It's funny how you get so attached to characters that aren't even that well developed. :P
But the gray hair is for sure when he has one point. Actually, all your townspeople turn old when they have a single life point left. It's kinda funny.But it is supposed to be some sort of symbolism or something? It seems a bit too weird to be done randomly.
I thought it was that he shaved in the morning, and if he stayed up all day/night, he grew a beard...?
Post by: noname2200 on October 28, 2009, 03:30:54 PM
Post by: Mop it up on October 28, 2009, 05:46:46 PM
On Tyrant Mode, all your folks start with one health only, so your kingdom is made up of geriatrics (and Corobo is always the most adorable octogenarian ever).Exactly why I'm not going to try it. Some boss's attacks are unavoidable so I don't see how it's even possible.
Post by: vudu on October 28, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
The problem is it just doesn't sound fun. The weakest part of LKS was constantly calling back your characters before enemies attacked. The game would be a real chore if you have to do it even more diligently.
Post by: noname2200 on October 28, 2009, 08:50:03 PM
On Tyrant Mode, all your folks start with one health only, so your kingdom is made up of geriatrics (and Corobo is always the most adorable octogenarian ever).Exactly why I'm not going to try it. Some boss's attacks are unavoidable so I don't see how it's even possible.
Actually, every attack is avoidable (as I've learned the hard way). Some of them are just very, very difficult to dodge. Make sure to never bring more troops than you absolutely need, and use that Guard formation at nearly all times!
He says start. I assume you can still get health upgrades. There are 5 or 6 health upgrades throughout the game--and that's not counting bonuses from equipping items--so your characters won't die from a single hit.
The problem is it just doesn't sound fun. The weakest part of LKS was constantly calling back your characters before enemies attacked. The game would be a real chore if you have to do it even more diligently.
You are correct. Oddly, this makes the game much easier as it progresses, which is the opposite of how it felt the first time. I disagree about it making the game more of a chore, though: while I initially feared the same, it actually forced me to learn the enemies' patterns and weaknesses really well. I'm actually more aggressive now than I was when everyone, including my king, had more health. One exception is that I don't use my scepter after getting the first health edict, as 99/100 that's basically a restart.
Oh, and the final boss is a pain now, since he targets your king quite well. I can't sit here and tell you it's worth the effort, but I loved the game enough to think that the extra challenge was actually a good incentive to replay it.
Post by: vudu on January 08, 2010, 05:12:09 PM
Did you know the game originally had pointer controls but they were removed early on because they didn't add anything to the game?
Did you know there was a multiplayer feature implemented in the code but it was dropped?
Did you know there was an intro chapter (it was eventually turned into the opening cut-scene) where you would find for the crown?
Did you know that one of the director's criticisms of the game isn't the god-awful Royal Guard path-finding? :Q
Now you know.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 08, 2010, 05:21:03 PM
He didn't go "all-out" with the Wii controls.
Post by: noname2200 on January 08, 2010, 08:08:13 PM
Here's an interesting postmortem on LKS by the game's director/producer. (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26453/Postmortem_The_Creation_Of_Little_Kings_Story.php)
Did you know the game originally had pointer controls but they were removed early on because they didn't add anything to the game?
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WHAT!!!!?!?!!!!!????!!!?!?!?!
*Deep breath*
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Post by: Mop it up on January 09, 2010, 03:41:53 AM
Actually, every attack is avoidable (as I've learned the hard way). Some of them are just very, very difficult to dodge.The king of the food kingdom, I've forgotten his name, has unavoidable attacks. That's the one that's played out like pinball and you use your units to bounce him around; each time he hits one of your units, they take damage. That battle was exasperating enough as it was, I can't even imagine it with even less health points.
Did you know the game originally had pointer controls but they were removed early on because they didn't add anything to the game?Idiocy.
Post by: Urkel on January 09, 2010, 04:28:24 PM
Post by: decoyman on January 10, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
I think if you shoot your guys out to meet him, you don't suffer any damage... I may be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's how I was finally able to defeat King Shishkebaboo or whatever.Actually, every attack is avoidable (as I've learned the hard way). Some of them are just very, very difficult to dodge.The king of the food kingdom, I've forgotten his name, has unavoidable attacks. That's the one that's played out like pinball and you use your units to bounce him around; each time he hits one of your units, they take damage. That battle was exasperating enough as it was, I can't even imagine it with even less health points.
Post by: Mop it up on January 11, 2010, 12:07:25 AM
I think if you shoot your guys out to meet him, you don't suffer any damage... I may be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's how I was finally able to defeat King Shishkebaboo or whatever.I checked GameFAQs and it appears you are correct. However, your units have to hit him whilst they are still moving forward in order to not receive damage, so the window of opportunity is very small.
