Post by: Bloodworth on February 22, 2007, 08:20:53 AM
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Man Flips over New Filet-O-Fish® Games
“Aquatic Tennis,” “Ocean Commotion” and “Sharkbait” Reel in Gamers
DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Online gaming is in demand. According to the International Game Developers Association, an estimated 100 million people in the U.S. will play a computer game this year alone. Beginning today, Dallas-based Moroch Partners is giving McDonald’s® customers the chance to test their gaming skills against a dolphin to see who wants the Filet-O-Fish® sandwich or the limited edition Double Filet-O-Fish® sandwich more. WWW.FILETOFISH.COM is part of comprehensive and integrated multimedia campaign including Spanish and English language television and radio spots, rich-media banner ads, outdoor and point-of-purchase as well as a mobile cell phone component. The campaign will run in 40 U.S. media markets and over 2,800 restaurants.
In an effort to remind customers about a long-time favorite, the McDonald’s Filet-O-Fish Sandwich and the limited edition Double Filet-O-Fish Sandwich, Moroch created a web site unlike any other for McDonald’s. WWW.FILETOFISH.COM encourages visitors to test their skills in three different games. In “Aquatic Tennis” man and dolphin try to get a Filet-O-Fish past each other; in “Ocean Commotion” you try to balance a Filet-O-Fish on your nose longer than the dolphin, and last year’s hit “Sharkbait,” returns to enable players to test their abilities to keep the Filet-O-Fish away from a band of hungry sharks.
McDonald’s has also partnered with I-play on a mobile component for the campaign. By texting “FOF” to 37438, customers on-the-go can download free wallpapers, ring tones and mobile gaming demos. A Spanish-language platform is available by texting “FOF1” to 37438*.
“Moroch understands how to engage and connect with consumers in their lifestyle,” said Rob Boswell, president and COO, Moroch Partners. “The Filet-O-Fish campaign is a great example of reaching consumers across multiple marketing platforms. By partnering with I-Play for the mobile component, we are creating another touch point for consumers to interact with the brand.”
Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2007, 08:49:30 AM
I have a feeling this will be strictly an American thing which sucks because I like the Filet-O-Fish and a DOUBLE version of it sounds awesome as hell.
Now I just need a Double McChicken. And I'm talking about the Canadian McChicken which unlike the American one actually tastes good. Seriously. The American McChicken is a seperate value item on the Canadian menu while our "McChicken" is a higher quality sandwich in the same price range as the Big Mac. I've never had an American Filet-O-Fish so I don't know if there's a difference there.
Post by: oohhboy on February 22, 2007, 09:30:40 AM
Post by: Arbok on February 22, 2007, 09:50:43 AM
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Originally posted by: oohhboy
The Franchise Wars has begun. who here eats McDs anymore? I don't know about you guys, but here in NZ, McDs is losing groud year to year as increased competition has fragmented the market from it's former BK/McD duopoly. Besides their burgers suck.
Certainly not the case worldwide, they had a story in Advertising Age recently about them and they are in fact gaining more ground in the marketplace.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2007, 10:08:13 AM
Here in BC McDonald's dominates (except at breakfast which is all Tim Horton's) and it's no surprise because they have the best prices and the best service. Everywhere else is more expensive and there will be tables with garbage on them and you wait forever for your food. Burger Kings seem to die out on a regular basis. I've witnessed three closings in the last five years and it's no surprise because the service there sucks. They constantly get your order wrong and you wait forever and it's just totally unacceptable when a better fast food place is across the street.
A&W and Dairy Queen are usually really empty around dinner time and I think it's because they're way too expensive. A basic combo can cost over $7 there. Wendy's however does really well and is often packed during peak hours.
However if I had Carls Jr., Jack in the Box or In-N-Out Burger in my area I would go to them much more than McDonald's but they don't seem to available anywhere in Canada. Fast food selection here is pretty weak compared to just a few hours drive into Washington state.
One thing to remember though is that fast food chains in different countries often have different food. If Canadian McDonald's food tasted like American McDonald's food I would hardly ever go there.
My brothers and I joke around that Wendy's is for labourers, McDonalds is for teenagers and Burger King is for old people since those are the groups that always seem to be there. A&W and Dairy Queen are for small towns since every rinky-dink place in the middle-of-nowhere seems to have one or the other as their sole fast food representation. Having a McDonald's means you've made it and that your city will inevitably grow into a huge commercial area over the next decade.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 22, 2007, 10:35:41 AM
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2007, 06:04:59 PM
Dunno, BK and McD aren't of much importance to me since I try to limit my intake of that kind of fast food. Plus you leave 5€ at those places while we have a pizza shop that gives you a pizza and a coke (0.2l but you don't need more than that) for 2.30€ and doesn't water the drinks down as much as McD (I think the McD with an all-you-can-drink deal makes the machine use 2/3 or 3/4 water). A Döner goes for 2-3€ and a burger from the two chains is small change compared to those (except for the big ones that easily run you 4€ just for the burger).
Of course that's in my university town, in my hometown the situation is dire, the two chains are in an outer area of the city (next to the two stores that defeated Wal-Mart in this country) and in the inner city you can either get a bad Döner or REALLY shoddy burgers from some strange kind of local chain. Seriously, you won't really appreciate McD or BK until you have eaten the crap they sell at Kochlöffel. Think a McD burger is tasteless (or tastes like grain)? KL's burgers taste roughly like wet paper.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on February 22, 2007, 07:37:44 PM
Oh and before i was a vegetarian (2-3yrs ago) Mcdonalds, and BK food wasn't much better than elementary cafeteria food. I've only eaten at In n' Out Burger once but it was actually very good.
If u guys think its hard finding a good fast food place try imagining being a vegetarian when ur friends all want to go to Wendys, I always end up getting a frosty, baked patato, and a small fries, hardly what i call a balanced meal.....
Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2007, 08:00:49 PM
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 10:00:28 PM
*ahem*
Ian, does Mickey D's still serve pizza up there or no I remember they served individual sized pizza when I lived in Vancouver...
Oh... and can I play these games on my Wii?
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: couchmonkey on February 23, 2007, 04:16:49 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 23, 2007, 04:56:54 AM
Virtually all locations stopped serving pizza over ten years ago but it doesn't quite seem to be universal. Shortly after graduating high school (which was like 8 years ago so who knows if this still applies) my friends and I went on a road trip and found a place that still sold pizza. It was privately owned or something like that. I know there was (and maybe still is) some difference between a franchise McDonald's and a privately owned one. The private ones apparently can choose not to participate in promotions and offer slightly different food and prices.
So the short answer is no but rare sightings have occured.
Post by: matt oz on February 23, 2007, 01:04:16 PM
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Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle
am i the only vegetarian here?
I'm a vegetarian as well. I don't eat out much, because the selection is so limiting, and you never know when something innocuous, like rice or beans, may be cooked in chicken stock instead of water.
As for fast food, I like Burger King's BK Veggie sandwich. I know it's cooked on the same griddle as all the tortured, dead cows and chickens, but it's tasty, and much healthier and more karma-friendly than tortured, dead animals.
Tortured dead animals!!!!
Post by: Kairon on February 23, 2007, 06:46:32 PM
I got my roommate to basically swear off eating at McDonalds when we get the munchies at night! ... Now he wants to eat chinese all the time... oh well
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: oohhboy on February 23, 2007, 07:01:06 PM
Post by: Renny on February 24, 2007, 07:30:15 AM
Eat real food. Support a local business. Pack a lunch if you can't do at least one of those.
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 25, 2007, 03:23:05 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Then don't be a vegetarian, there's a reason the front teeth of a human aren't shaped like the side teeth.
Counter-point, theres a reason why your back teeth aren't shaped like the front. Humans evolved in a way that they could sustain themselves on either type of food. When the hunters had nothing to hunt, the village most likely resorted to forging for consumption. The reverse is true for northern dwelling tribes who mainly have better fat metabolism as most of their diet consisted of eating mea from .fishing
I appluad vegitarians, they are doing themselves a service health wise. However, i doubt any vegitarian food prepared by fast food chains is healthy. I'd also encourge people to generally stay away from fast food places, not that burgers are the key culprit, but it's mainly the fries and how many fries they give you. The soda also doesn't help with obesity/diabetes either, but for hyperlipidemia and atherosclerosis it's the fries.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 25, 2007, 04:35:59 AM
Both having the reason that humans are omnivores.
Anyway, this needs a Public Service Announcement.
Post by: ThePerm on February 25, 2007, 10:02:58 AM
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 25, 2007, 11:27:40 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Counter-point, theres a reason why your back teeth aren't shaped like the front.
Both having the reason that humans are omnivores.
Anyway, this needs a Public Service Announcement.
That link was bizare
Post by: Ian Sane on February 26, 2007, 05:15:19 AM
See I take pride in admitting I love fast food because of this elitist backlash against them. Most of my co-workers act like fast food is beneath them and that I'm some sort of uncultured boob for eating there. In Vancouver yuppies are everywhere and the culture of drinking Starbucks coffee and going to yoga and pretending to be an intellectual has spread all thoughout the nearby suburbs. I don't care for this lifestyle at all so I take pride in enjoying fast food. I'm like a food iconoclast. In an area where everyone acts like a snob I order a cheeseburger at almost every restaurant I go to and brag about how much fast food I can obtain for the lowest amount of money. I eat food that tastes good and don't give a sh!t what kind of image that presents.
Normally I bring leftovers for my lunch at work but today there weren't any so I'll be having fast food. I am looking forward to it.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 26, 2007, 05:41:10 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on February 26, 2007, 05:51:19 AM
I see where you're coming from Ian, Starbucks is really just fast food dressed in cafe clothing. I like it anyway, but I don't think I'm a better person for it.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 26, 2007, 06:16:13 AM
I like how most fast food has a different flavour then it's "supposed" to. It's like inventing a new flavour. A Big Mac doesn't taste much like a hamburger. It has its own flavour. So when I'm in the mood for a burger I go to somewhere else but if I want a Big Mac I go to McDonald's. I can eat a Big Mac for lunch and a burger at Red Robin for dinner and it doesn't feel like I ate the same thing twice in one day.
One restaurant that does suck though is Denny's. I have a theory that they artificially colour their lettuce. It's just so much greener than most lettuce and it has a paint-like taste to it.
"Starbucks is really just fast food dressed in cafe clothing. I like it anyway, but I don't think I'm a better person for it."
If you like it because you actually like it and not just because of the image it represents then that's cool.
Post by: IceCold on February 26, 2007, 06:22:40 AM
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Post by: Kairon on February 26, 2007, 07:33:33 AM
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: matt oz on February 26, 2007, 07:39:10 AM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
unfortunately, working at a fast food resturaunt iv become somehwat of a conossour of fast food.
connaisseur
if you don't know how to spell a word, why use it?
Post by: IceCold on February 26, 2007, 07:52:12 AM
QuoteOh my goodness, the irony is blinding!
Originally posted by: matt ozQuote
Originally posted by: ThePerm
unfortunately, working at a fast food resturaunt iv become somehwat of a conossour of fast food.
connaisseur
if you don't know how to spell a word, why use it?
It's connoisseur..
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 26, 2007, 07:59:24 AM
On the subject of McDonald's video games, I agree that the Hamburglar is practically made for video games.
On the subject of fast food, I try not to indulge very often. When I do, it's usually at Taco Bueno. I swear there's an addictive substance in their muchacos. If any of you ever venture into their territory, I recommend you try it out. I also hope a newer local chain manages to grow that much. Have you ever wished you could have a huge steak and a baked potato delivered to your door? Well, I can. The burgers are great, too.
Post by: Renny on February 26, 2007, 08:43:58 AM
I do still find myself eating at fast-food megachains occasionally. There's a general dearth of good restaurants in this city, and even less in my neighborhood. If I can help it I take food with me when I'm going into the danger zone (the mall area). For the same price as fast-food that is edible (such as Arby's) you can get better stuff from a local. There's no excuse if an alternative is availible.
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 26, 2007, 10:33:57 AM
I too hate the elitist attitude towards fast food, and I see the same with the whole Walmart situation as well. Too many people criticize those who support these businesses and think they are cultured for doing so. I totally agree with what Ian was saying above, these types of people are pretty much asses. Sometimes it just makes more sense to mind you own business and let people do what they want.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 26, 2007, 11:00:29 AM
I see that too. I go to Wal-Mart a fair bit because they have good prices. I'm not rich. Saving money here or there is important. I don't want the Wal-Mart in my area to wipe out every private business but when I want a product I'm typically going to go where I can get the best deal. It's not always affordable to make a special effort to support local businesses. Though I find that when I want a very specfic product Wal-Mart rarely has it anyway so the local businesses benefit from that. Wal-Mart usually gets my business for stuff I don't give a sh!t about like deodorant. But they don't have any CDs I like for example. Their shoes are crap so I buy shoes somewhere else. A local game store not only has a better selection but better prices on used games which Wal-Mart doesn't have. Unless you have perfectly mainstream taste in everything Wal-Mart isn't always going to cut it. But I need a new extension cord and Wal-Mart's on the way home from work? Well then I'm going to Wal-Mart.
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 26, 2007, 11:03:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
I too hate the elitist attitude towards fast food, and I see the same with the whole Walmart situation as well. Too many people criticize those who support these businesses and think they are cultured for doing so. I totally agree with what Ian was saying above, these types of people are pretty much asses. Sometimes it just makes more sense to mind you own business and let people do what they want.
I'm all for hating on elitists, but studing physiology, pathophysiology, and other fun courses of the nature teaches you fun stuff about poeple who neglect moderation in their eating habits.
I'm not bashing fast food, I'm bashing all food eaten out that is not moderated. A resteraunt is no different than McDonnalds in the amount of lipid filled food it gives you. I think this is a common missconception that people have derived. Generally if your eating out, it's proabably not the best idea health wise, but moderately speaking, you can eat out perhaps 2-3 times during the week, it'd be preferable if it were one, but 2-3 out of 21 major meals in the week isn't so bad. It doesn't matter if it's a classic well known fancy resteraunt that costs +$100 per plate, or the dollar menu from McDonnalds. It's all the same.
People should mind their own business, but it's small progress to improving a dire healthcare situation in the states that some people are putting down the burgers (really the fries), however, it's disheartening to see them flock to the Chessecake Factory instead.
EDIT: The wallmart arguement is a different animal though. I think most people don't like walmart because it eats up small businesses. But for myself, I have yet to shop at one, I never intend to, mainly becuase i like costco, they pay their employees well above minimum wage, i believe it's $11.50 an hour staring and they allow unionization and health care for their workers. Wal-mart doesn't allow a union, doesn't cover it's workers with health care, starts everyone at minimum wage, and they lobbied despreatly against the Chicago law that forces all large retailers in the city to pay it's workers a minimum wage of at least $10 an hour. I like costco, cause their wholesale matches up pretty well to wallmart (or so i've heard), but they're damn chaep for me, and i know i'm reinforcing what i feel is a good buisness model, which more companies should take on.
Post by: UncleBob on February 26, 2007, 11:40:03 AM
First off, Wal*Mart doesn't "eat up" small businesses. Wal*Mart offers services and products at low prices. Individual customers make the choice of shopping at Wal*Mart or continuing to support the small businesses. When customers decide not to support small businesses (for whatever reason), either the small business must change their business model to attract these customers back or go out of business. Wal*Mart doesn't move into town and start shutting down businesses - they close down because the business has failed to attract enough customers to keep it going. Would you perfer that Wal*Mart raise their prices (thus making more profit for Wal*Mart) just to allow small businesses to remain competitive? Or how about the proposal that requires Wal*Mart People Greeters to ask each shopper entering the store to present a receipt from a local small business before they're allowed to shop there? There are plenty of mom and pop stores that have managed to survive and strive in a world of Wal*Marts. They find a nitch that Wal*Mart doesn't cover or they make up for their higher prices in damn good service, quality or sales staff. The stores that don't make it... well, apparently the customers didn't like them enough to keep them in business, eh?
As per starting pay - I have worked in 7 different Wal*Marts and I can't think of a single one that starts out at "minimum wage". The store I'm at now actually starts an individual with no previous job history in a basic position at 50 cents above state minimum wage and is (sadly) one of the higher paying jobs in my community. After about four years with Wal*Mart, I'm making over twice state minimum wage, which, considering the area and the fact that the job pretty much requires no special skills means that I'm doing pretty good. What's the starting rate at one of your beloved Small Businesses?
As per the Chicago law - that law was bull crap and we all know it. Aside from the fact that minimum wage laws are unconstitutional and hurt job growth (not to mention the number of jobs that go overseas because of this kind of crap), the idea of two business who have employees that do basically the same exact job being forced by the government to pay one set of employees extra because they have more employees, well, that's asinine. If you want to set a minimum wage, then do it - don't make exclusions or you're just going to wind up hurting the free market.
Unions? Bah. Don't need 'em. How many jobs have went overseas because of unions?
Health Care? Health Care is an individual's responsibility. Somewhere along the way, this idea has been lost and now everyone from employers to the government is expected to take care of our health care costs (meanwhile, we lazy americans continue to eat our horribly unhealthy food, not exercise, smoke, drink, have unprotected sex, etc., etc and then wonder why our health care costs are so high...)
Anywhoo, beyond that, Wal*Mart does offer fairly affordable health care that really doesn't suck too badly - and is way better than what you're likely to get working at Mom and Pop stores. Which is absolutly nothing.
Is Wal*Mart a perfect company? Hells no. But at least have a clue what you're talking about before you blurt stuff out like "Wal*Mart kills small businesses"...
Post by: oohhboy on February 26, 2007, 11:47:51 AM
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Post by: Louieturkey on February 26, 2007, 12:07:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian SaneHowever if I had Carls Jr., Jack in the Box or In-N-Out Burger in my area I would go to them much more than McDonald's but they don't seem to available anywhere in Canada. Fast food selection here is pretty weak compared to just a few hours drive into Washington state.
Unfortunately, for anyone not on the west coast of the US, you will be hard-pressed to find an In-N-Out. It's family owned and they actually ship their beef and other items fresh daily from a single farm in the middle of California. They have no freezers in any store. The farthest north they are is Redding, CA and the farthest west is Tuscon, AZ. So unless you move to California, you are unlikely to ever get an INO in your area.
Carl's Jr. is called Hardee's in the east (not nearly as good and possibly slower). Jack in the Box probably just hates Canada or something. :P
Post by: Bloodworth on February 26, 2007, 12:38:35 PM
I find the quality of each Dennys to be completely independent. Most of the time they're decent, sometimes they're horrible, and sometimes they're good. Southern California has a similar diner chain called Carrows with much better food, service, and coffee.
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 26, 2007, 12:47:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I actually don't care for fries enough to eat all of them most of the time. So if I get fast food, I tend to go to Wendy's where I can get the chili instead of fries. I'm not sure if that's really any healthier, but it's more filling.
Generall speaking, the fries are usually the worst thing you can eat, especially if you eat the large quantity they give you over extended periods of time. The chilli is most likely healther in the cardiovascular sense, comparitively to the fries. I used to eat the wendy's chili, it was pretty good, esspecially for a dollar, but i stopped eating beef, so i don't know how the quality has been for a while.
Post by: matt oz on February 26, 2007, 04:45:22 PM
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Originally posted by: IceColdQuoteOh my goodness, the irony is blinding!
Originally posted by: matt ozQuote
Originally posted by: ThePerm
unfortunately, working at a fast food resturaunt iv become somehwat of a conossour of fast food.
connaisseur
if you don't know how to spell a word, why use it?
It's connoisseur..
in French, it's connaisseur, from the verb connaitre, meaning 'to be familiar with'
in American, it's connoisseur, because someone messed up
I spell it the way it's meant to be spelled.
My spellng and grammer is always correkt!
Post by: IceCold on February 26, 2007, 06:28:18 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 26, 2007, 07:34:26 PM
Post by: Deguello on February 26, 2007, 09:35:54 PM
Perhaps this could be the subject of a Funhouse thread?
Post by: KDR_11k on February 27, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 27, 2007, 01:29:36 AM
I don't see what's elitist about not wanting to clog your arteries before the age of 30... =)
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 27, 2007, 02:21:46 AM
I'm trying to not eat so much junk food as in the past, including McDonald's, which is hard because it's on the way from the house to the office and it's very easy to just stop there for lunch. Usually it's only once a week, but I like to eat... food taste so good.
And I think I am missing that gene that tells my brain I am full, so I eat until I feel like I am going to explode some times. =(
Post by: UncleBob on February 27, 2007, 03:11:36 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 27, 2007, 05:21:45 AM
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 27, 2007, 01:37:46 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I'd start a big discussion with Bob about some of his points (e.g. minimum wage preventing job growth - as if there was any point in having more jobs that pay too little to even afford the rent) but that'd quickly violate the "no politics" forum rule.
Thats why i edited my post and said forget it.
The minimum wage comment isn't what i would have started on, more of the healthcare issue, as i will soon work in health care and not just be on rotations.
Post by: UncleBob on February 27, 2007, 02:44:30 PM
Either hours get cuts, jobs get cut or prices go up... none of which is going to help the lowest paid classes.
You can't support a family on $7.25 an hour any more than you can support them on $5.15 an hour.
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 27, 2007, 03:42:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"I too hate the elitist attitude towards fast food"
I don't see what's elitist about not wanting to clog your arteries before the age of 30... =)
Well I totally agree there, the thing I was shooting for is that too many people get up on their high horse about it and look down upon people who eat fast food. It's ok to not want to eat fast food, just don't think you are better than somebody else who does.
I'm starting to notice this trend in America where select groups of people are growing obsessed with having a healthy lifestyle and as a result become very arrogant and offensive when it comes to anything health related. Some people choose to not lead a healthy lifestyle and that's ok because that's their choice; don't criticize other people's choices because it isn't your place.
(This isn't directed at you Bill, just commenting in general)
Post by: Kairon on February 27, 2007, 04:59:09 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
BTW, you vegetarianists just don't know the goodness that is horse meat!
Or dog meat!
... and us Filipino's got this awesome delicacy that seems to freak all the white people out. It's called Balut, and it's a duck egg that's allowed to develop a little bit more so that when you boil it, you open it at one end and work your way down carefully peeling egg shell to get at more good stuff.
You slurp up the juices, slurp up the yolk, slurp up the egg white, and for the piece de resistance...
you slurp up the partially developed duck embryo. It's not developed long enough for any hard parts, the bones aren't hard... the thing just melts apart in your mouth more like. Although if you're not careful you're gonna slurp up half the embryo and have to go back for the second half.
And if you get a bad Balut, then the feathers are developed... you don't want to eat one of those. Uck.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2007, 07:08:58 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Then don't be a vegetarian, there's a reason the front teeth of a human aren't shaped like the side teeth.
I'll start eating meat when you renounce the censorship of art that portrays violence.
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