Post by: Pittbboi on February 21, 2007, 11:59:36 AM
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15301
The Good:
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BIZ: Getting back to my point about the lull and keeping momentum, though, the Q1 lineup for the Wii looks pretty anemic, honestly. And long droughts were a problem with the GameCube. Reggie Fils-Aime recently declared that there would be no droughts on the Wii, but it's as if we're starting to feel a drought already right now. I mean, when are we going to see Metroid or Mario?
PK: Well, first of all, number one you're a hardcore gamer, and we're selling to the masses as well. As I had mentioned earlier, there are millions of people who have yet to even experience Wii Sports. We've got 27 products between January and June, which gives people a lot to choose from, and that doesn't even include all of the Virtual Console games. You know, we've got Metroid and Super Mario Galaxy, and Super Smash Bros. and a lot of other really cool products... Elebits for example is getting really rave reviews and it's a really cool product. So we have about 2/3 of our products coming from third parties, which is really healthy; so while you, a core gamer are kind of waiting for our next product, there's still tons for people to experience and to find. And a lot of the hardcore products are going to continue to come and come soon.
BIZ: Ok then, so what is the expected release timeframe for Metroid and Mario?
PK: I wish I could tell you. You will learn soon.
Seems to be more proof that we'll be seeing these games in 2007, and sooner than later.
The Bad:
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BIZ: Why is Nintendo planning on releasing a DVD enabled Wii so long after the launch of the console? I don't think many people will care. What's the point?
PK: I think it's just to give them a choice. We've not yet come out with a firm date; we haven't talked about it too much. It's not the top thing on our list.
BIZ: Unless that's part of the plan for a new Wii hardware revision that would incorporate DVD playback as well?
PK: There are always lots of things in the future.
BIZ: Well, Nintendo does love to tinker with hardware, with three different versions of GBA and DS & DS Lite, etc.
PK: Yeah, we do, we do. If you think about the portable market, how many years that's been given legs for... we're talking like almost 17 years of portable gaming with Game Boy.
BIZ: But does the hardware revision model lend itself to the console market also? You relaunched the GBA as the GBA SP, the DS as the DS Lite, so can that be applied to consoles like the Wii?
PK: Sure, absolutely. You'll see the ways in which we do that.
This might not be bad for some people, but I REALLY hope they don't go the gameboy route with the Wii. Releasing a DVD version is already pushing it. Any more than that, and I'm going to be really salty for being an early adopter.
And the ugly:
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BIZ: Let's talk about Nintendo's online plans. Obviously you have some cool stuff with the Weather Channel, News Channel, Opera browser, etc., but in terms of online gameplay Nintendo continues to lag behind. There are still no games to play online on the Wii, everyone hates those friend codes... how will Nintendo's online plans evolve?
PK: Some of that friend code stuff is really built for the mass consumer, not just the gaming world. The Wii has tons of different offerings and a lot of it was brand new. The remote, brand new. The way in which it interfaces with the screen, brand new. The channel concept, brand new. And I think if we launched it and plunked it down and said to the absolutely uninitiated, "Here's 18 things it can do," I can guarantee you it would stay in the box. It's just too intimidating. So we really strategically wanted to roll out having nearly a year talking about the remote and getting people ready, why it's unique, because it is the Einstein of the system.
And then talking about the different things the box can do and then entering with the Virtual Console piece of it and the Wii Shop channel, introducing the channels one a time—the Mii channel has taken off and people really love that. Then ultimately we did weather, news and there's a lot more to come, but we're kind of rolling it out in a fashion that is consumable for people who are not highly experienced—and also giving you guys a chance to really explore it. And online stuff has come in the Pokemon game that has launched in Japan, and it definitely will come here and I think people will be very pleased with it. But I also think we've seen other companies launch with the entire menu of stuff, and I don't think all of it gets utilized at the start.
I really don't like the arrogance in this comment, and she's doing more of the "we're rolling things out slowly so your poor, weak minds can have a chance at fathoming what we're doing." Honestly, just admitting that they're releasing things slowly so that they HAVE stuff to release or that they're doing last minute tweaks would be much better than undermining the intelligence of the consumer.
And it seems that friend-codes are here to stay. Let's just hope that the "some of" hints at some tweak Nintendo might add on some loophole to make friend codes bearable for those who know what they're doing.
Post by: trip1eX on February 21, 2007, 03:29:43 PM
They hold back because not everything is ready at once and because they want to trickle out things to keep it feeling new and keep up the hype. They are doing it with VC games. They are doing it with channels. They are doing it with 1st party Wii games.
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 21, 2007, 04:45:26 PM
QuoteWell, presumably the user/customer would not be overwhelmed since Nintendo has had time to talk about and introduce the new features. Remember that Nintendo isn't just selling to you and me, but to mom and dad, grandma and grandpa, and your non-gaming girlfriend as well. Simplifying the basic game controller to two buttons and putting it the shape of a remote control was also done so it wouldn't be intimidating or overwhelming. In fact, aren't those reasons, the reason why Wii is outselling it's graphically more capable competition?
Originally posted by: trip1eX
Yeah the rollout part is half bs. I agree that you don't want to overwhelm consumers, but what about everyone who buys a Wii after today? Aren't they going to be overwhelmed because they are getting all the channels at once and all the VC games at once????
Nah... i'm just wearing rose colored glasses and part of the "Nintendo can do no wrong" Defense Force, right? I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions here. Be patient, wild grasshoppa. Allow your new brothers and sisters time to adjust.
Post by: Artimus on February 21, 2007, 05:38:28 PM
Post by: BigJim on February 21, 2007, 06:26:36 PM
The PR is "we're being slow and calculated". The reality is they just don't have a product yet. Exactly what they've been doing for the last several years is beyond any of us, but such is the case anyway.
Post by: King of Twitch on February 21, 2007, 06:30:06 PM
"OOGA OOGA THE WII CAN PLAY GAMES ONLINE AND HAS A NEW METHOD OF CONTROL AND CAN SEND EMAIL AND HAS AN INTERFACE?? I AM TOO OVERWHELMED AND INTIMIDATED TO PURCHASE THIS BAFFLING TECHNOLOGICAL MARVEL"
modern nongamer cavemen just can't adapt quickly enough.
Post by: Kairon on February 21, 2007, 06:52:20 PM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 21, 2007, 07:20:06 PM
Post by: Strell on February 21, 2007, 07:25:25 PM
I think we can stop making threads about her now.
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 21, 2007, 09:49:11 PM
QuoteArrogant? Whats arrogant about her saying Nintendo does not want to intimidate their new gaming customers? I'd say she is saying things that are true and you just don't want to listen. Having lots of options and channels obviously isn't going to phase you, but she's not talking about you. She's talking about the new gamers Nintendo is getting with Wii Sports.
Originally posted by: Strell
Ok we get it. None of us like Perrin Kaplan interviews because she says things in an annoying and arrogant way.
Post by: ryancoke on February 22, 2007, 03:06:45 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 22, 2007, 03:48:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Strell
Ok we get it. None of us like Perrin Kaplan interviews because she says things in an annoying and arrogant way.
I think we can stop making threads about her now.
I second that motion...She IS Midna Kaplan, you know.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2007, 04:01:15 AM
Post by: Plugabugz on February 22, 2007, 04:15:15 AM
If the world economy listened to her, there would be a major problems on other planets probably.
Post by: The Omen on February 22, 2007, 05:01:56 AM
Just to add to the mounting Kaplan hatred, I have hated her since day one. She is quite annoying for a glorified PR person.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2007, 05:33:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion SHE IS PR! SHE DOESN'T HAVE A CRAPLOAD OF INSIDE INFO! EVEN IF SHE DID SHE'S NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE HER JOB TO SAY IT!
Agreed.
But I guess this does cinch the question about the DVD Wii once and for all.
Post by: Strell on February 22, 2007, 05:35:02 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteArrogant? Whats arrogant about her saying Nintendo does not want to intimidate their new gaming customers? I'd say she is saying things that are true and you just don't want to listen. Having lots of options and channels obviously isn't going to phase you, but she's not talking about you. She's talking about the new gamers Nintendo is getting with Wii Sports.
Originally posted by: Strell
Ok we get it. None of us like Perrin Kaplan interviews because she says things in an annoying and arrogant way.
No, I don't want to listen. You are correct.
I don't need to listen to "we're rolling out things so you can explore them" marketspeak. I get that is all the ammo she has, but that's weak ammo. I was done with the Everybody Votes channel the minute I saw it, I used the weather channel all of 2-3 times, and the News channel is nifty, but it's nothing bold or difficult to understand.
What about her "DON'T YOU DRINK COFFEE WTFOMG" comments a few months ago concerning VC prices? Or her blatantly incorrect information concerning both component cables and region locks?
When you talk down to the interviewer and then simultaneously stretch that to "we're letting you get used to it," where "you" implies the rest of the gaming community and your entire userbase, you sound like a condescending, arrogant jerk.
Now if she's talking to the noobs, that's one thing. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest a few things about the noobs - 1) some of them probably aren't even connected to the net. 2) Some of them probably think you have to pay for the channels, despite being free, because you have to go to the Shop channel to get them. 3) Most of them aren't using the channels. 4) None of them are hearing what Kaplan has to say.
If even one of those things is halfway true, that doesn't help Kaplan's talk.
I get the feeling in every one of her interview that she cuts off the interviewer's last word ALL THE TIME, for EVERY QUESTION, and with EVERY ANSWER. Like she's all jittery and anxious.
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 06:00:01 AM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2007, 06:08:36 AM
Although Reggie is likewise PR, he tends to have a humble edge when it comes to customers, making sure to avoid talking down to them. It's the competition he has no trouble with trashing, and that's fine by me.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2007, 06:21:52 AM
She shouldn't be interviewed.
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 06:36:37 AM
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Post by: segagamer12 on February 22, 2007, 06:58:22 AM
Back To Perrin,.. Normaly I just read her interviews and move on, nothing learned, no harmd done so why bother, but *this* interview sucked. I liked how he turned the apples to oranges bit back in her face and she got all defensive, its like Perrin "we are not competing with PS3" Interviewer, "but yourbeating it" Perring" We respect Sony" Interviewer "how about DS" Perrin "yeah we clobbered PSP" Interviewer "I thought you weren'y cometing wtih PSP?" Perrin "We clobbered PSP next question. "
thata laod of BS Perrin. You can defend Wii bys aiung your not competing with sony cuz its a different product, then turn aorund and say DS *is* compdeting with PSP when its the same situation. That was the only part that bothered me about her. Everyting else is just PR BS and you gotta sift through all that.
Post by: Deguello on February 22, 2007, 08:07:31 AM
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Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2007, 09:45:06 AM
I think with friend codes Nintendo is risking what I feared all along. They're comprising something in a significant way because of non-gamers and may turn off hardcore gamers as a result. I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox 360 is the online console of choice for hardcore gamers, merely because the interface doesn't assume you're three years old.
I don't like the "but you're a hardcore gamer" answers. It suggests that Nintendo thinks it's okay to neglect us. It doesn't matter if only hardcore gamers will notice a drought. That's not an excuse for a drought because not having one isn't going to have any negative effect on non-gamers. Non-gamers will not be turned off by a healthy release schedule but hardcore gamers will be turned off by a weak one. They don't have to neglect us and doing so will just lose sales. Non-gamers have no loyality and will bail the second something else catches their interest whether it be a different company's console down the line or a different activity altogether. The hardcore will remain interested if you've got a decent product regardless of trends or fads. Neglecting them is foolish.
I don't see how Nintendo is going to lose non-gamers by releasing good games at a good pace and having a flexible online solution. To me it all just seems like an excuse.
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 10:05:38 AM
The XBox 360 SHOULD always be number 1 among online console gamers. That's been clear from the start and any insinuations to the opposite are outright misguided. Even this interview shows it: Perrin herself used the "second console" line.
As for Nintendo talking down to us, I can see where you're coming from. But...
After playing WoW and bumping into newbs everywhere, you have NO IDEA how many absolutely moronic, lazy, and downright neanderthal people are out there. You, sir, are the best hope for humanity. Everyone else is the equivalent of triassic mental drudge. *shrug* I'm not saying that's bad... but in my experience it's the truth. Nintendo becoming less elitist by working on triassic level is perfectly justifiable to my eyes.
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Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 10:09:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I don't see how Nintendo is going to lose non-gamers by ... having a flexible online solution. To me it all just seems like an excuse.
I agree. But they're not going to gain an exorbitant amount either. It simply isn't at the top of their priority sheet.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2007, 10:33:20 AM
Yeah I know but he does it in a way that doesn't imply we're idiots. It's the difference between being a good lier and a bad one.
"I agree. But they're not going to gain an exorbitant amount either."
Yeah but they might lose hardcores. I'm not saying they have to be on-par with Xbox Live. We're comparing a free service to a pay one so they shouldn't be the same. But Wii online gaming should at least be comparable to other free online options like we see with PC games. Simple matchmaking with the option of "stranger" opponents is routine stuff. I wouldn't mind them putting a friend code only mode in for parents to turn on. Parental controls are always a great idea. But grown-up gamers shouldn't have to deal with the same restrictions as children. Friend codes is kind of like Internet Explorer always having safe surf options that can never be turned off.
Post by: 31 Flavas on February 22, 2007, 10:39:37 AM
QuoteWell then, I don't really need to do anymore explaining or typing. Unless you get the answer you want from Perin, you're not going to be happy. I mean you may as well just shout, "LALALALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING" next time. You still won't get the answers you want, but you won't have to listen to them.
Originally posted by: Strell
No, I don't want to listen. You are correct.
It's not like Nintendo owes you anything. If they don't want to take their franchise games in the direction you want, don't go online how you want, don't do the hardware specs you want, well too bad. But I'd say you've got two good apt competitors.
QuoteMaybe I'm a bit autistic here, not picking up on social cues and such, but I don't see how she gets offended. Sure she tells matt that he should ask for a raise, but that's her joking with him. She did the same thing with him in the after E3 interview. Where matt asked, 'Whats with DVD-movie play back? Why no dvd-movie playback?'. She gave him a funny answer. Suffice to say she doesn't agree that it needs dvd-movie playback.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I remember reading about how she practically became offended when Matt from IGN suggested that VC prices are too high (which they are) and I thought it was funny.
Suffice to say, on my part, I don't agree that VC titles are over priced either. Heck, in another thread there was flame going on here about the Wii not having enough channel space for all the VC games people were buying. Sure it'd be nice if they were cheaper, but then there's a lot of shít in my life i'd like cheaper.
Post by: Ceric on February 22, 2007, 11:20:42 AM
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 11:30:18 AM
One of the surprise million sellers last fall was THQ's Cars franchise...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2007, 11:33:34 AM
Post by: Mikintosh on February 22, 2007, 11:34:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
If they ever gave an answer that hardcore isn't important I point out that we are the ones who buy all those games for their full original price. Then I have some stats that show what percentage of the sold games belonged to hardcore. If I could.
Eh, I dunno. Nintendo's always rided on popular titles like Mario, Zelda, Pokemon which have appealed to the general audience throughout their existence (how'd the NES get so popular, anyway?). If anything, I'd think the "hardcores" (if we're to generalize) would buy those titles used or once they've been discounted since they're not as immediately "neccessary" as the latest WoW update or whatever. If anything, the people who make incrementally updated RPGs like Square-Enix rely on them more, but Nintendo isn't in that market, really.
I will say, dissecting PR releases is like cutting into a bowl of pudding; you're not really getting anywhere. Okay, horrible metaphor, but still.
Post by: Strell on February 22, 2007, 02:44:43 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteWell then, I don't really need to do anymore explaining or typing. Unless you get the answer you want from Perin, you're not going to be happy. I mean you may as well just shout, "LALALALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING" next time. You still won't get the answers you want, but you won't have to listen to them.
Originally posted by: Strell
No, I don't want to listen. You are correct.
It's not like Nintendo owes you anything. If they don't want to take their franchise games in the direction you want, don't go online how you want, don't do the hardware specs you want, well too bad. But I'd say you've got two good apt competitors.
You're doing two things here. The first is changing the subject. The second is looking like an idiot.
I don't think Nintendo owes me anything because I'm patient with them. Not to mention I've got a huge backlog of games on their systems alone, without mentioning competitor's systems. So I can play the waiting game quite well.
But at the same time I know how PR ought to be done, and it's not to talk down to the person writing down what it is you are saying. Kaplan is about two steps behind people like George Harrison and the other hilarious supervillian like douchebags over in Sony's camp, who make wild and brazen claims like "you can't find a PS3 on the shelf for more than 5 minutes or I'll pay you $1200 bucks." She doesn't reach that level of "you're all idiots because you're not as rich as me," but she does a damn good imitation.
I've done PR work in the past. Hell, for Nintendo even. And if there's one thing I know, it's that you shouldn't ever come off as a pompous jerk. You can brag and boast and push your merchandise all you want, but you never act like it's too good for some people and that your business plans are somehow unfathomable to people who don't walk into NoA's headquarters. Tycho at Penny Arcade put it best - "sometimes these people act like we don't have records of what they've said, and also developed a way to communicate with each other using computers." You get the feeling these guys think we've got zero attention span and no ability to ask others what just happened.
I said last week (or however long ago it was) that I don't think she should lose her job, but they have got to stop letting her talk to people. She needs to be behind the scenes because it's obvious she has little idea in the way of professional tact. You can put any damn fool up there and remind them "Don't talk about X, Y, and Z," and they can pull it off. But there are ways to allude to such things and ways to soften hard questions into slick answers that make you look like you're right. And Kaplan just doesn't have that charisma. Instead she's confused and thinks her smarminess is the answer, and it's not.
Now as for your tangent about "not getting what I want," I think you need to talk to some other people around here, because I'm quite happy with what Nintendo has done in the last 6 months. Hell, I like Wii Play more than the majority of people I know, and the majority of people I see in forums. So if you're going to accuse me of something you have no clue about, go right ahead.
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 04:12:35 PM
... well, I'm convinced. She's in the big leagues now. Kaplan has to either pay more attention to what she's saying or recede into the background. No matter how much I love her interviews.
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Post by: 31 Flavas on February 22, 2007, 05:11:58 PM
QuoteI've watched prior videos of Perrin and i'm reading the excerpts that Pittbboi has quoted. The "Bad" and "Ugly" have nothing that I find ostensibly pompous or inflammatory. It's only pompous, insulting, arrogant, whatever, because you are being pretentious yourself. There is some answer you want to hear, but didn't get. Instead, you got an answer that falls in line with everything we've already heard. So she's condescending now and/or a pompous jerk because she told you what you already know. That's just ridiculous.
Originally posted by: Strell
I've done PR work in the past. Hell, for Nintendo even. And if there's one thing I know, it's that you shouldn't ever come off as a pompous jerk.
It's the same damn thing we heard all the way up to Nintendo's press release where they finally revealed the price and date of availiblity for Wii. "Nintendo is being a pompus jerk" "They could have told us price/availability months ago" "they didn't need to keep this info secret so long" blah blah blah. If Nintendo doesn't want to talk about something yet, they don't fuÇking have to. And you're the pompous jerk for asking/trying to force them to tell you when time and time again they say, "No. Were not ready to talk yet."
QuoteGeez, you wonder why Nintendo doesn't want to talk or tell you dates, numbers, figures, etc until they're ready or until they can solidly commit. Because you're going to nail them to a cross if they don't meet them. Yet, at the same time, if they don't tell you these numbers, figures, dates, or whatever, months or a year in advance you're still going to nail them because 'they're being pompous' for dodging the question or not answering. Now how fair is that? Besides that, what significance do these numbers do you anyway? Why is it of such utter importance to you aside from stroking your ego if system Z is going to be out on date Y and have X number of systems to purchase.
Tycho at Penny Arcade put it best - "sometimes these people act like we don't have records of what they've said, and also developed a way to communicate with each other using computers."
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 05:25:31 PM
It's not so much a matter of her talking down to us, but latting us feel talked down to. She's gotta pour more honey on the parts that are gonna be rough for hardcore traditional gamers to hear so we feel flummoxed instead of defensive.
She's PR. She shouldn't be giving us facts, but sugared distortions of the truth that make us feel good about ourselves. That's what Reggie does, anyways.
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Post by: 31 Flavas on February 22, 2007, 06:17:45 PM
QuoteYou've got to admit though, region free and lack of component cables is hardly worth mentioning when Kutaragi himself in 2005 announced that standard on every system would be a 2 port gigabit hub, WiFi STANDARD, allow 7 controllers to connect, 2 HDMI out, and a Spring 2006 launch date. That wasn't some PR person just trying to be chummy chummy that was Top Brass telling you how it was going to be. None of it true. They even botched their revised 'worldwide' release date.
Originally posted by: Kairon
But Perrin's had quite a number of gaffes in the past: region free, and etc.
You can hold Perrin to the region free and componet cables, but then you've at least got do some restructuring/reorganizing of the decision/power tree over at Sony.
QuoteI really don't think 'more honey' is really needed. I just think the hardcore need to chill. I mean honestly, Perrin isn't disrespecting anyone. This whole thread is over percieved disrespect, rather then actual condescension or "pompousness".
It's not so much a matter of her talking down to us, but latting us feel talked down to. She's gotta pour more honey on the parts that are gonna be rough for hardcore traditional gamers to hear so we feel flummoxed instead of defensive.
Quote"Sugared distortions" I like that
She's PR. She shouldn't be giving us facts, but sugared distortions of the truth that make us feel good about ourselves. That's what Reggie does, anyways.
Post by: Strell on February 22, 2007, 06:41:03 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteI've watched prior videos of Perrin and i'm reading the excerpts that Pittbboi has quoted. The "Bad" and "Ugly" have nothing that I find ostensibly pompous or inflammatory. It's only pompous, insulting, arrogant, whatever, because you are being pretentious yourself. There is some answer you want to hear, but didn't get. Instead, you got an answer that falls in line with everything we've already heard. So she's condescending now and/or a pompous jerk because she told you what you already know. That's just ridiculous.
Originally posted by: Strell
I've done PR work in the past. Hell, for Nintendo even. And if there's one thing I know, it's that you shouldn't ever come off as a pompous jerk.
If I read this correctly - and I'm amazed I did - you just told me that because I don't agree with her statements and their delivery, not only am I pompous, but I'm passing my own arrogance onto her because she's saying things I already know?
That is some of the idiotic logic I've ever heard in my life. That's about the most convenient cop-out answer I've seen on these boards, where not only are you turning my disapproval onto myself, but simultaneously channeling it onto Kaplan.
No. She has little to no professional tact in interviews. Excellent example? "No one got shot in our lines, like the PS3." Not only is that a low comment, it's punching someone in the balls when they are already clutching them in pain. Sony isn't proud of that on an official PR level. Maybe in their golden hallways with their golden thrones and their golden chalices with their golden smiles of golden teeth, they toasted to that kind of frenzy, but it backfired on them AND they've had to take heat for it. Just like Nintendo did when the woman drank too much water and died. But despite that, even I didn't see Harrison or Kaz come out and call Nintendo some kind of murder-inducing console manufacturer.
You don't slam your opponents in childish ways. You talk about the facts. Nintendo doesn't need their PR people calling Sony incompetent or non-existent competition. They just need to say "We are selling well, we have great software coming out, there's stuff in the pipelines, and we know people are very pleased." There's absolutely no reason for them to come down on their opponents, and the major person I see doing this is Kaplan.
Now you can sit there and twist this around with that kind of retarded logic, but that's stupid and you know it. You've both removed my ability and opportunity to call her out on her nonsense, and then called me pretentious in the same breath.
Next time just stfu, because it's clear you have no point.
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It's the same damn thing we heard all the way up to Nintendo's press release where they finally revealed the price and date of availiblity for Wii. "Nintendo is being a pompus jerk" "They could have told us price/availability months ago" "they didn't need to keep this info secret so long" blah blah blah. If Nintendo doesn't want to talk about something yet, they don't fuÇking have to. And you're the pompous jerk for asking/trying to force them to tell you when time and time again they say, "No. Were not ready to talk yet."
THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING AS WHAT KAPLAN DOES. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT.
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Geez, you wonder why Nintendo doesn't want to talk or tell you dates, numbers, figures, etc until they're ready or until they can solidly commit. Because you're going to nail them to a cross if they don't meet them. Yet, at the same time, if they don't tell you these numbers, figures, dates, or whatever, months or a year in advance you're still going to nail them because 'they're being pompous' for dodging the question or not answering. Now how fair is that? Besides that, what significance do these numbers do you anyway? Why is it of such utter importance to you aside from stroking your ego if system Z is going to be out on date Y and have X number of systems to purchase.
1) Stop changing the subject.
2) See above. And even above that.
3) As I said before, I could care less how long they delay. I'm going to buy it anyway, and I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it.
4) Stop changing the god d*mn subject.
5) I'm not going to nail them for what they say so long as it is truthful. I've said two basic things about Kaplan, and since you've managed to avoid them so cluelessly, let me tell you them again. I don't like her attitude, and I don't like her delivery. So long as she gives me the straight answer and doesn't make sh*t up off the top of her head (again, component cables and region lock anyone?) AND doesn't treat me like I can't handle *gasp* a new "down-lode-a-bull kon-tint" item every few months, she can talk all she wants.
But she needs to clean up her sideshow clown act first.
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Strell
AND doesn't treat me like I can't handle *gasp* a new "down-lode-a-bull kon-tint" item every few months, she can talk all she wants.
Could be worse... she could treat you like you're a marginalized market that's not her main concern or even necessary for her success.
*slaps himself in the face*
Sorry... turned into Pittboi there for a moment.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 11:16:28 PM
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“I can confirm that globally, Nintendo is still continuing production of GameCube hardware and GameCube software,” - Nintendo UK spokesperson
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Post by: Shecky on February 23, 2007, 12:49:24 AM
Edit: (Not surprised that there are differences between regions... The big N needs a One Nintendo initiative
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Post by: Artimus on February 23, 2007, 04:53:13 AM
