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Title: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on February 12, 2007, 04:06:34 PM
The "Death" is in quotes b/c the system isn't actually dead.

I recently hooked up my system after a week long stretch where the console wasn't connected or powered.  When entering any of the online areas there was a significant delay from the time you hit start to when you would see the typical loading screen.  That delay was accompanied by a blank black screen with no indication that the Wii was actually still alive.  This pause was most noticable with the Shopping channel which took a good 2 min in this state.  It was also quite long for the Mii channel, followed by the forcast and news channels.

I can see a lot of people mistaking 2 min of pitch black screen as a non-resonsive, locked-up Wii.... has this happened to many folks?
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 12, 2007, 06:18:16 PM
One time it took more than a minute to load up THE EFFING MII CHANNEL.

It seemed like it's busy trying to do some WiiConnect24 refreshing plus game disc recognition at the same time.  This was after a week of red-light inactivity.
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Caliban on February 12, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
It's a game console, it wasn't designed for multitasking...I guess.

The BSoD happens to me also once in while, no big deal.
Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: vudu on February 13, 2007, 12:11:36 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
One time it took more than a minute to load up THE EFFING MII CHANNEL.
I laugh in your general direction.

Three days ago it took approximately a half-hour to load Gunstar Heroes.
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 13, 2007, 04:37:40 PM
I think it might have to do with the timing of it all. I believe Wii Connect24 looks for updates and what-not after every some-odd amount of minutes or hours (or both), and if you happen to try to load a channel that uses WiiConnect24 (all of them besides your downloaded VC games and discs use it) during that "update check", then you have to wait till the Wii is done doing what it's doing. It's happened to me a few times.
Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on February 14, 2007, 02:17:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
I think it might have to do with the timing of it all. I believe Wii Connect24 looks for updates and what-not after every some-odd amount of minutes or hours (or both), and if you happen to try to load a channel that uses WiiConnect24 (all of them besides your downloaded VC games and discs use it) during that "update check", then you have to wait till the Wii is done doing what it's doing. It's happened to me a few times.


They should give you _some_ indication though.
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 14, 2007, 05:59:23 AM
Maybe they could release a software update that makes the blue light of greatness flash rapidly when it's looking for updates, or a message on the screen. I think they just underestimated how many people would have WiFi this early on.
Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 08, 2007, 05:32:26 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
One time it took more than a minute to load up THE EFFING MII CHANNEL.
I laugh in your general direction.

Three days ago it took approximately a half-hour to load Gunstar Heroes.


I am humbled by your misfortune.
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: ShyGuy on May 08, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
I think I would have given up and powered off the Wii about 5 minutes into the Gunstar Heroes wait.
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: vudu on May 09, 2007, 07:16:05 AM
The sheer audacity of the situation made me want to see how long it would take to load the ROM.  I played Advance Wars DS while I waited.  
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on November 12, 2007, 05:11:41 AM
Fix this already!!
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: decoyman on November 12, 2007, 05:54:29 AM
I've had this issue too. If I am playing my Wii every day and looking at the various channels, it's never such an issue. However, if a few days or weeks pass without powering on the system, I can count on the BSoS* (even a non-WC24 channel, like I was going to play a GC game the other day, and it took a long time)

*I've decided to call it the Black Screen of "Swoon," since it's (as you said) not dead, but merely swooning at all the WC24 greatness that is pouring through its circuitry all of a sudden.

Regardless of what you call it, though, it's ANNOYING.  

edit: why is this in General Gaming and not in Nintendo Consoles??
Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on November 12, 2007, 06:41:28 AM
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Originally posted by: decoyman
I've had this issue too. If I am playing my Wii every day and looking at the various channels, it's never such an issue. However, if a few days or weeks pass without powering on the system, I can count on the BSoS* (even a non-WC24 channel, like I was going to play a GC game the other day, and it took a long time)

*I've decided to call it the Black Screen of "Swoon," since it's (as you said) not dead, but merely swooning at all the WC24 greatness that is pouring through its circuitry all of a sudden.

Regardless of what you call it, though, it's ANNOYING.  

edit: why is this in General Gaming and not in Nintendo Consoles??


I think I might have started this thread back when there was a "technical discussion" forum area.

I can also count on it occurring after weeks of down time, as that seems to be the underlying cause of it all...  
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2007, 07:07:43 AM
It's performing involuntary connection tests.  I am now positive.  The 2nd best guess is it's doing its best to contain REGGIE inside.
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: mantidor on November 12, 2007, 01:03:38 PM
Oh now I see why it takes so long to load corruption sometimes.

Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 12, 2007, 03:10:08 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
The sheer audacity of the situation made me want to see how long it would take to load the ROM.  I played Advance Wars DS while I waited.  


Um, damn...

It's not like Gunstar has an online component to bog the Wii down or anything. 30 minutes is insane...

Quote

Originally posted by: Shecky I think I might have started this thread back when there was a "technical discussion" forum area.

I can also count on it occurring after weeks of down time, as that seems to be the underlying cause of it all...


So when I go to play REUC tomorrow, I'm going to be f*cked, is that what I'm hearing?
Title: RE: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on November 12, 2007, 05:06:18 PM
Well every time it happens (I go a time without booting up) I always forget to start a trace and thus never really get to check what it's doing over the wire while the system "blacks out"
Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: couchmonkey on November 14, 2007, 02:36:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
It's performing involuntary connection tests.  I am now positive.  The 2nd best guess is it's doing its best to contain REGGIE inside.


So one day Reggie is just going to pop out of all our Wiis and shout, "OH YEAH!"
Title: RE:Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: EasyCure on November 14, 2007, 02:58:15 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
It's performing involuntary connection tests.  I am now positive.  The 2nd best guess is it's doing its best to contain REGGIE inside.


So one day Reggie is just going to pop out of all our Wiis and shout, "OH YEAH!"



you cant compare Reggie to the kool-aid man, its just not right.

...though it would be funny to jump out and shout "heres that surprise! sorry its late!" then punches you in the face and brakes any Sony products around..


too bad Reggie doesnt apologize
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on January 10, 2009, 05:35:54 PM
So I still note this happening, I also did a quick search and find it hilarious at the *many* convoluted 'solutions' to this problem.

All because the system is trying to grab stuff online and just like to keep the user in the dark while doing so.

So my question is... has anyone heard a response from Nintendo as to why they don't seem to mind letting this little issue go?  Nintendo's site says any A/V problem with blank screens - call tech support for repair, but all of us here know our system isn't faulty, the software is just retarded...
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: stevey on July 15, 2009, 05:46:06 PM
I'm starting to get this problem on my Wii... :'( Has anyone had their Wii break after they started to get a black hole of death?
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on July 16, 2009, 07:25:05 AM
Happens on my system too.   Only a handful of times have I been forced to just shut her down because I was convinced it was never going to actually load the game/channel.
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 16, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
It happens when you don't Free Your Wiily everyday.  It's reconnecting to the net and refreshing any general Mii/message board updates.  Like any router and website and Wi-Fi game and the internet, the connection to [whatever] isn't always 100% successful, not always 100% fast, and not always 100% fruitful, sitting there waiting and confused.

It's less likely to happen when WiiConnect24 is active all the time.  But if you power-down all the way, some device is bound to forget recent relationships with another.
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Pale on July 16, 2009, 02:14:02 PM
Yeah, what Pro said.  Have you just gone a few days between play sessions lately?

It's not a product of something breaking.. it's another example of Nintendo dumbing down a system to the point of ridiculousness.  Is it so hard to put a progress bar up there that says what it's doing?
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: ThePerm on July 17, 2009, 04:16:55 AM
there iss no such thing as multi tasking , just a schedule of activities that go back in forth in time shares, these can be microseconds(and not noticeable), and minutes (annoying!) My Wii has done this. Im so used to this sort of crap with computers it never occured to me how much it sucks and how i've never had any other game console do that for me. I should have been more angry!
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 17, 2009, 04:26:59 AM
Hey guess what, the black screen happened to me today, just as I predicted before entering the Shop Channel for the sake of prompting my long-disconnected Wii to reconnect to WFC services (before jumping onto Mario Kart).  The electro-handshake was in limbo for a bit, so I powered down, restarted, went back to the Shop Channel, and it tried to black-screen me again but it didn't last long this time and the Shop loading screen came about fine.
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on December 09, 2013, 12:52:43 AM
Ok, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've just recently encountered an issue with my Wii, which frankly has been off (on on the "red light" due to a power outage) for perhaps a year or more.

Given that it's been off, I expected it to still work when powering it on the other day, but instead got the "black screen of death".

I got inpatient and tried to just reboot the system by holding down the power button.  That would often at least cancel whatever background calculation the system was trying to do.  However, it's been minutes now and no signs of life... Is this pause really proportionate to the amount of time the system is off... should I just come back in a month?  Has anyone figured out a good way of working around this issue?

Thanks
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 09, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
Used Wiis are $39.99 at GameStop.
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: nickmitch on December 09, 2013, 03:22:04 PM
My Wii stopped working with my component cable recently.

Maybe that's it?
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: Shecky on December 17, 2013, 02:12:37 AM
Brandogg: That doesn't salvage my Virtual Console Games or Saved Games (especially noting those saves they didn't let you copy off to an SD card).

Contacted Nintendo.  It's $85+tax to repair a Wii.  My solution was to try and salvage VC games to the Wii U

nickmitch: Thanks for the thought.  I do use component cables.  I tried switching back to regular composite cables after digging them out, but still no dice.  Perhaps I'll crack the Wii open and check it out at some point.
Title: Re: Wii Black Screen of "Death"
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 17, 2013, 07:45:47 AM
It's a cold solder joint under the GPU like the Xbox 360 or PS3 with the RRoD/YLoD repsectively (most of the time).