Post by: utarefsoN on January 25, 2007, 07:32:57 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3156447
here is a paragraph from the article. Its best to read the whole thing though.
"My fascination with Tose began at the Tokyo Game Show in 1999. I was walking by the Capcom booth with a friend of mine deeply entrenched in the Japanese games industry. We checked out Resident Evil Gun Survivor, the Resident Evil offshoot for PlayStation that made use of the light gun. My friend turned to me and whispered "You know, this game wasn't actually developed by Capcom...it was done by a company called Tose. But you're not supposed to know that." It certainly seemed plausible -- as anyone who's played the Gun Survivor games knows, they weren't quite up to standards set by the main Resident Evil games -- but how was it possible that this developer was working on the game and Capcom was passing it off as its own? And how was it that no one else knew about this? "
Fascinating, now we know why the bootleg versions (what people call spinoffs) are junk and the Main games of RE rock generally. This is why i want RE5 damnit and not what ever crap were gettin. We all know damn well RE5 is developed in house by Capcom but i seriously doubt the "Cronicles" RE were gettin will be.
I found it fascinating that a lot of companies do this including NIntendo. Very intersting article i thought.
Discuss as you wish.
Peace Nosferatu
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 25, 2007, 07:40:52 AM
Post by: Arbok on January 25, 2007, 07:44:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I thought we already accepted that Capcom hates money and prefers to support dying consoles and those that will never earn them any respect in Japan?
Are you describing Capcom or Sega... I can't tell.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 25, 2007, 07:48:15 AM
Post by: Arbok on January 25, 2007, 07:53:11 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Well I read that RE Wii is a proper RE game like RE 5 is, but I don't know if that means it's a canon title, or just plays like a normal RE game.
It's supposed to be set in between Veronica and 4, so it will probably deal with the fall of Umbrella, which was only mentioned in passing at the start of the 4th game. It's being produced by Masachika Kawata, aka the guy who did the port of RE4 to the PS2... so my hopes aren't that high sadly.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 25, 2007, 08:19:29 AM
Post by: Mode7 on January 25, 2007, 08:38:47 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Well I read that RE Wii is a proper RE game like RE 5 is, but I don't know if that means it's a canon title, or just plays like a normal RE game.
It's supposed to be set in between Veronica and 4, so it will probably deal with the fall of Umbrella, which was only mentioned in passing at the start of the 4th game. It's being produced by Masachika Kawata, aka the guy who did the port of RE4 to the PS2... so my hopes aren't that high sadly.
If you're implying that the PS2 RE4 "sucked" in any way due to misdirection by Masachika Kawata, then you're wrong. The only inferiorities were all hardware-based or -limited. Loading times took longer just because the PS2 is simply like that. The graphics and visuals took a slight punch in the gut simply because the PS2 has a weaker CPU. Lighting effects and related suchedness were combed down for the same reason. So I don't see why you would blame that guy for the PS2 RE4 port being bad.
But that's under my assumption that you're blaming him for that anyhow.
Post by: vudu on January 25, 2007, 08:50:01 AM
Post by: Arbok on January 25, 2007, 09:04:59 AM
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I think he was implying that the future doesn't look bright because it's produced by the guy in charge of a port. I don't know the man's previous work, but if he's not involved in anything original there's little reason to believe he'll come up with something wonderful for a new game.
Bingo... it sounded better to say "the guy who did the port of RE4 to the PS2" as opposed to "the guy who did the CG Camera work for Dino Crisis 3" also.
He has stepped up the ladder, I will give him that, but nothing in his resumé would convince someone he's ready to take on the production of a new, original game. The port of RE4 is his only producer credit so far, as far as I can tell. Hell, he could be super talented, and this will be his first game to really shine on... or he could be awful. Either way, not exactly hopeful at this stage to see someone like Kawata assigned the project.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 25, 2007, 09:35:11 AM
Exactly. Why else do you think they supported the Cube? *swish*
Post by: BlkPaladin on January 25, 2007, 03:47:26 PM
Post by: Darkheart on January 25, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
I think he was implying that the future doesn't look bright because it's produced by the guy in charge of a port. I don't know the man's previous work, but if he's not involved in anything original there's little reason to believe he'll come up with something wonderful for a new game.
Bingo... it sounded better to say "the guy who did the port of RE4 to the PS2" as opposed to "the guy who did the CG Camera work for Dino Crisis 3" also.
He has stepped up the ladder, I will give him that, but nothing in his resumé would convince someone he's ready to take on the production of a new, original game. The port of RE4 is his only producer credit so far, as far as I can tell. Hell, he could be super talented, and this will be his first game to really shine on... or he could be awful. Either way, not exactly hopeful at this stage to see someone like Kawata assigned the project.
Everyone who is big in the industry isnt magically given the power and the reputation. This IS his big break so I think we need to cut some slack until we see some gamplay details and some direct feeds of the game. A new guy deserves to get his break in the industry truly. I think he can make the game shine as long as there is an experienced person on the team whos their to sort of mentor him sort of like what Myamoto is doing right now for other developers.
Post by: MarioAllStar on January 25, 2007, 04:00:53 PM
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"I thought we already accepted that Capcom hates money and prefers to support dying consoles and those that will never earn them any respect in Japan?"
Exactly. Why else do you think they supported the Cube? *swish*
Well if to be in the process of dying means to near one's death, then everything--GameCube included--is technically dying since birth. That point is moot.
Also, the GameCube would gain them more respect in Japan than, say, the Xbox would. Therefore, choosing to release games on the Cube shows an increased love of money than releasing them on the Xbox.
CAPCOM LOVES MONEYS =D
Post by: Rancid Planet on January 25, 2007, 05:29:08 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 25, 2007, 05:36:21 PM
Now, I have never played a Resident Evil game, because I hate scary games...I get too stressed and can't play them. However, I do respect the games, and the Resident Evil series has a great mythology and history that will be great to revisit...and not revisit as in the make Resident Evil 1 AGAIN...but as in, see what happened to the world and the characters that is unsettled.
Post by: TrueNerd on January 25, 2007, 06:03:09 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 25, 2007, 06:09:36 PM
Post by: Adrock on January 25, 2007, 06:27:13 PM
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Arbok wrote:
He has stepped up the ladder, I will give him that, but nothing in his resumé would convince someone he's ready to take on the production of a new, original game.
A valid point. At the same time, Miyamoto was hired as an artist. I'm not comparing Masachika Kawata to Miyamoto, I'm just saying for argument's sake that you can't count anyone out.
And whoever handles Umbrella Chronicles would have to go out of their way to make a bad game after RE4 set such a good example.
Post by: IceCold on January 25, 2007, 06:37:41 PM
Post by: Nephilim on January 26, 2007, 01:29:33 AM
It was always a clear spinoff, much like Pokemon: mystery dungeon
If anything, its Capcom America's fault for dubbing it with a sequal style name
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 26, 2007, 03:27:46 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 26, 2007, 03:44:59 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 26, 2007, 04:50:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I thought we already accepted that Capcom hates money and prefers to support dying consoles and those that will never earn them any respect in Japan?"
Exactly. Why else do you think they supported the Cube? *swish*
Well, yeah, there was the GC, but right now, I mean support for the PSP and 360, one of which is dying and the other doesn't have an established userbase of over 500k in Japan despite being out for a year.
Post by: JonLeung on January 26, 2007, 05:04:13 AM
ADA. WONG.
Woo! The game can't be sucky now!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 26, 2007, 05:07:17 AM
Post by: Arbok on January 26, 2007, 05:18:44 AM
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PSP is also a easy market because while its considered a dying portable it still has a fairly large and starving userbase and quick and easy ports/remakes will lure in that crowd.
Let's not kid ourselves, the PSP has a huge userbase, which is nearly double all next gen systems combined... its problem has always been attracting those people to actually buy games though.
Post by: Luigi Dude on January 26, 2007, 11:23:43 AM
At least their Gamecube games actually brought in good sales. Resident Evil Remake, Zero and Four all sold over 1 million copies worldwide EACH. Plus the first Viewtiful Joe sold over 500,000 copies worldwide so Capcom at least had some success with the Gamecube. The PSP on the other hand has been a miserable failure in software sales for Capcom and for them to keep supporting it when all their games keep bombing makes no sense.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 26, 2007, 06:39:11 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Well I read that RE Wii is a proper RE game like RE 5 is, but I don't know if that means it's a canon title, or just plays like a normal RE game.
It's supposed to be set in between Veronica and 4
lol no. Umbrella Chronicles takes place during all the main games.
Post by: Arbok on January 26, 2007, 06:53:56 PM
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lol no. Umbrella Chronicles takes place during all the main games.
Well, you have your choice in sources. The Chinese based Game Next magazine stated that it would be a compilation style game of the entire series using the RE4 style of play, with a number of playable characters.
Recently, the Japanese based Quiter stated that it was going to take place between Veronica and RE4 with around three playable characters and using the RE4 style of play.
Neither source is particularly great, so who knows. The scans given for the 'Game Next" article showed pictures of the PS2 Ada levels of RE4, and had pictures of the people using the remote from the Prime 3 demo... so I'm less inclined for that one.
