Post by: Jensen on January 21, 2007, 03:41:07 PM
The iPod now has a few games available for it.... But the control interface doesn't work for games. If the next iPod works like the iPhone, it might have some pretty good touch games available. Even better, why not build a controller for it to dock into?
The Wii already has 4 different controller units.
The Wii has built in memory, and features several non-game functions Nintendo has shunned in the past.
The DS is a great system, but it has a few faults. It doesn't have analog control sticks, so it isn't best for 3d games like Mario 64. With some games, the controller game become uncomfortable... mostly those that use the shoulder buttons a lot, such as Mario Kart DS. Though not a fault as a game system, it can't be used as a mp3/video/photo media player.
My idea is to make a Gameboy that has no buttons. It would contain a 4 inch, 3:2 touch screen, and all the necessary hardware. In this mode, you could play any game that only uses the touch screen, such as Brain Age any Kirby's Canvas curse. You could use it as a media player that has functionality similar to the Wii.
The system would come with a standard controller dock. This would look similar to a PSP or a DS without the top screen. You could also mount the screen vertically, and use it to play DS games.
Because the controller would be separate from the system, Nintendo could have an optional comfort grip, with full size analog sticks and comfortable L and R buttons. It wouldn't be pocketable, but it would still be portable.
These illustrations below aren't very well developed, and are just composites of images of existing systems to give a basic idea. I didn't show how the base would connect to the grip, and I can assure you that I don't think Nintendo should make a PSP clone.
Post by: Leck on January 21, 2007, 04:55:09 PM
Sounds like a good idea, but I think people would object to having to buy different controller thingoes to slot it into
Also, I like the two screens we have at the moment, and I think any new gameboy/ds/whatever they want to call it, will keep the dual screen idea.
Maybe even 2 touch screens.
Post by: Artimus on January 21, 2007, 05:29:03 PM
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 21, 2007, 11:20:33 PM
Post by: Jensen on January 22, 2007, 04:23:05 AM
I don't think nintendo should release this any time soon...
Post by: Ceric on January 22, 2007, 09:37:56 AM
Post by: Jensen on January 22, 2007, 12:42:04 PM
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I really don't want a handheld with "no hard-buttons" or a phone for that matter. A PDA Great. Unless Nintendo figures out how to do haptics for cheap.
I don't think you understand. The Wii has several controller options, depending on the game. I just think that the same idea could be applied to handhelds. I don't think a touch screen should replace buttons. My idea is to have different physical grips, not different virtual button configurations on a touch screen.
Some games don't need physical buttons, such as Brain Age.
Some only need basic buttons, like a 2d Mario platformer.
Some games need an analog stick for better control, such as Mario 64.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 23, 2007, 04:06:00 AM
I think the standard grip should come with the system, though, and it should be able to handle all games. You don't want to splinter the install base, after all. That's not to say that there couldn't be other attachments, but anything you can't do out of the box will be forever niche.
Instead of a separate DS grip, just let the screen be reorientable in the normal grip. Letting the screen be attached in two orientations would not only make playing older DS games work better, but it would be a cool option for new games, too. The DS has two configurations: normal and book style (like Brain Age). This imaginary handheld would have six: screen only horizontal, screen only vertical, grip and screen horizontal (like GBA), grip horizontal with screen vertical (like DS), grip and screen vertical (like a PDA or phone [hint hint]), and grip vertical with screen horizontal (like a sideways DS). It would be an unprecedented level of flexibility.
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 24, 2007, 08:52:05 AM
Now, I don't want to see a new portable system for about 3-5 years after the DS has lived its life to the fullest. But what I would like to see is something that uses the virtual console model for games.
Download whatever games you have bought on the virtual console into the portable device and go. No going to the stores to buy games...simply log on to a server and download it. The device doesn't even have to have huge memory storage, because download speeds should be fast enough to not matter.
I dunno its an idea...that works for portables, because I never have the ability to care more than 2 DS or Gameboy Advance games with me on the go. If I could just have my entire library on a server I have access to, that would be amazing.
Post by: Amodaus1 on January 24, 2007, 10:48:37 AM
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Post by: Garnee on January 26, 2007, 02:59:22 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on January 29, 2007, 03:20:11 AM
Personally I think handheld gaming is always going to compromise comfort for portability.
Post by: jakeOSX on February 05, 2007, 12:40:10 AM
oh and +1 to HD screens.
-j
Post by: ryancoke on February 05, 2007, 02:54:25 AM
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I really don't want a handheld with "no hard-buttons" or a phone for that matter. A PDA Great. Unless Nintendo figures out how to do haptics for cheap.
There are some pretty sweet DS homebrew apps that add PDA type functionality. Nothing as complicated as an actual PDA but you can get organizers, calendars, to do lists, e-mail clients, and many others.
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 12, 2007, 07:37:16 AM
I would be happy, with a system designed exactly like the DS lite, but more powerfully, and that technology included. Add in a 1GIG Flash drive to store your virtual Console games on the system, and perhaps an analog stick that can be locked to act like a D-PAD and you are set.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 12, 2007, 09:42:50 AM
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I think Nintendo needs to work with apple and create the next Gameboy with the technology of dual response touch screen.
I would be happy, with a system designed exactly like the DS lite, but more powerfully, and that technology included. Add in a 1GIG Flash drive to store your virtual Console games on the system, and perhaps an analog stick that can be locked to act like a D-PAD and you are set.
That sounds like a great idea, though I do think it should be the next NDS and not Game Boy. I think the analog stick is a must as well.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on February 13, 2007, 02:14:58 AM
However, if they do, then the two technologies of Apple and Nintendo just have to receive, decipher, or interpret the inputs differently and both their patients would hold up. It would obviously show that Nintendo and Apple were both working at the same time with the technology and came up with similar but different solutions to the problem.
Adding to my original post about just keeping the DS design...I think I would incorporate slightly larger screens as well, and potentially make both screens with the new touch screen controls.
As for the whether this should be the Game boy line or the DS line of systems. I don't think that matters. Personally, I think Nintendo needs to drop the Game Boy name because although well known it isn't an elegant sophisticated name...the DS is just a much cooler name.
The next hand held the DS will be the dominate name between the two. And in a few years when the new DS comes out wifi connections should be leaps and bounds ahead of today to where downloading your virtual console games and such would be nothing for the system.
Post by: Ghisy on February 13, 2007, 05:39:48 AM
Post by: Jensen on February 13, 2007, 04:02:13 PM
Post by: Mysticspike on February 13, 2007, 04:29:29 PM
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Pretty pictures
i agree
but, i didn't know there was a vertical screen like that for DS lite.
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 14, 2007, 02:46:11 AM
Post by: Ceric on February 14, 2007, 03:40:47 AM
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I wonder if there is away to have a folding half like the DS has, but allow for the two screens to still be next to each other with little to no gap for gameplay purposes?
The answer to your question is, Yes. Is it easy to break, Yes. It be a special hing for the most part. Also on the Dual touch stuff companies have been working on it for most of last decade if not earlier. So I'm sure there is patents galore from every which way on that technology.
I'm just excited that there is a new revision coming. Hopefully something more ergonomic. With built in flash... <.< >,>
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 14, 2007, 04:37:48 AM
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I'm just excited that there is a new revision coming. Hopefully something more ergonomic. With built in flash... <.< >,>
It's the miracle of life. A new unfounded rumor was born, and I was there to see it. Seriously, though, I'm guessing you're getting that from here, where you misread Perrin's quote. She meant the DS Lite is a redesign of the DS. The sentence doesn't make sense if you read it as an announcement of a new product. How could something that hasn't happened yet be popular, after all?
Post by: IceCold on February 14, 2007, 06:39:24 AM
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Post by: ViewtifulJoe on February 15, 2007, 04:47:26 PM
nintendo realy dosn't need to worry about backward compatabilaty with the ds because they are two compltly diffrent systems and by the time the gb comes out ds would only cost about 50$ or they might redesign the ds like the micro
Post by: Adrock on February 15, 2007, 05:39:58 PM
Post by: ryancoke on February 23, 2007, 03:24:07 AM
Nintendo should add flash memory similar to the Wii. It wouldn't have to be as big, maybe 128mb or something to store save games. There's been a few times where i've rented a game and then bought it only to have to start all over again. I was 6 hours into Final Fantasy III and now i'm holding off buying it because I don't want to start all over again.
