Post by: JonLeung on January 11, 2007, 02:00:31 AM
Stealing an Xbox? WTF. I would assume that they just said that for the news story, more likely it was an Xbox 360 specifically, but I find this an odd thing to steal after this last holiday season. Why not a Wii or a PS3? Xbox 360 is SO last year's news. Maybe the Wii and PS3 weren't available at that store (you'd think there'd be a couple PS3s gathering dust) and they felt like nabbing SOMEthing.
Next of all, stealing is stupid anyway.
(Yes, I confess to taking $200 from a guy from Hong Kong who was staying with my family for a few months for school. He had it in a small unlocked safe-type box that he kept in plain sight in the guest room. I figured he had lots of money in there that he wouldn't mind if $20 was missing. Next thing I knew I took $200. He was from a kinda rich family apparently and didn't accuse me when I ran into him a couple years later in university but it still wasn't right and I confess it every time theft comes up as a topic.)
Personal preference against Xboxes aside, it seems like a dumb thing to do for any bit of electronics. Not as bad as a few years back when someone drove a car right into a Toys R Us only to jump in and grab a single PS2 (just one, supposedly no controllers or games while they were already at it, the story goes) and then driving out of there.
I just felt like ranting. I never hear about any cool bank heists; people seem to just want to grab one little thing.
Maybe the news just want to make gamers seem like criminal-types. Thanks a lot. At least I don't recall any stories about people stealing Nintendo products...yet.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 11, 2007, 02:48:58 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on January 11, 2007, 03:24:17 AM
I do not condone the cool crime of robbery, but I stole two marbles one time, and I think I stole a few dollars from my dad when I was little. But stealing that stuff just made me feel guilty, I think I returned most of the money, and I think I gave away the marbles at some time. Oh, I also stole a cane from an opened "Master Splinter" TMNT toy, because I had lost the cool hidden sword part from my own toy. I kept that one.
Post by: oohhboy on January 11, 2007, 03:55:21 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 11, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
"If you're going to steal, steal at least a million dollars. That way, you're not a thief, you're a gentleman."
Post by: Ian Sane on January 11, 2007, 05:04:51 AM
The reason I don't do it is that I don't want to be stuck hiding in foreign countries and spend my life on the lam. If I'm a millionare I want to be able to live in North America and relax. I also think stealing is wrong but if I didn't it would be entirely because of the other reason.
Post by: JonLeung on January 11, 2007, 05:12:10 AM
If I was a kid and lost a Game Boy with a Pokémon cartridge in it, or had it stolen, I'd bawl my eyes out for days, maybe weeks! Even worse would be if you knew who stole it and by the time the teachers or parents can do anything about it, it's already damaged beyond repair.
Heck, even now if something like that happened to any of my Pokémon saves, I'd be pretty upset...hundreds of hours spent on a game that is stolen/lost/damaged sucks.
Post by: vudu on January 11, 2007, 05:51:26 AM
QuoteQuote of the year. 2007 is off to a slow start.
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Kids these days have no ambition. Why, in MY days we stole entire countries and wouldn't give them back until the entire Allied and Soviet force conquered our capital!
I stole a MicroMachine once (from the son of family friends, not a store). It was yellow and had a big (relatively speaking) engine coming out the hood.
Post by: JonLeung on January 11, 2007, 06:07:33 AM
Post by: UncleBob on January 11, 2007, 07:19:46 AM
who steals music and video games from the internets?
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on January 11, 2007, 07:28:36 AM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
So...
who steals music and video games from the internets?
That's not theft, that's copyright infringement. You don't actually take anything from anyone as you can't steal intellectual property.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 11, 2007, 07:38:36 AM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on January 11, 2007, 07:47:21 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
I did hear on the Internet of kids stealing GBAs and DSes at school. I never had a Game Boy until Pokémon, but I almost lost a Game & Watch in elementary.
If I was a kid and lost a Game Boy with a Pokémon cartridge in it, or had it stolen, I'd bawl my eyes out for days, maybe weeks! Even worse would be if you knew who stole it and by the time the teachers or parents can do anything about it, it's already damaged beyond repair.
Heck, even now if something like that happened to any of my Pokémon saves, I'd be pretty upset...hundreds of hours spent on a game that is stolen/lost/damaged sucks.
I was working at my parents resturant and it was slow and only one old couple about 40-50 yrs old came in. I set down my GBC with Pokemon Blue in it and serviced them. When they left my GBC was missing...luckily my Dad was cool enough to replace it for me since I worked there pretty much all year long without really getting paid for it. It still sucked though, I put in a $hit load of time into the game at the time as it was still my first run through of the game but finally on my new GBC (Up till then i was playing it on the old GB).
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2007, 07:52:58 AM
I don't want to be the one getting busted, humiliated, or my ass kicked. On video.
Yes, I watch those police videos shows.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 11, 2007, 08:06:03 AM
At least when you're a kid you can beat up the kid that stole your Gameboy. When you're an adult they have all this annoying law stuff. So if you punch out someone who has it coming you can get arrested for assualt. Being a grown up sucks... except for having money, being able to drive a car, being able to eat cookies for dinner and all sorts of other things your parents frowned on because it was fun, and boobs.
Post by: denjet78 on January 11, 2007, 12:39:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"If I was a kid and lost a Game Boy with a Pokémon cartridge in it, or had it stolen, I'd bawl my eyes out for days, maybe weeks! Even worse would be if you knew who stole it and by the time the teachers or parents can do anything about it, it's already damaged beyond repair."
At least when you're a kid you can beat up the kid that stole your Gameboy. When you're an adult they have all this annoying law stuff. So if you punch out someone who has it coming you can get arrested for assualt. Being a grown up sucks... except for having money, being able to drive a car, being able to eat cookies for dinner and all sorts of other things your parents frowned on because it was fun, and boobs.
Actually, today you'd probably be arrested and charged with a terrorist activity if you did that. The whole world has gone completely nuts when it comes to kids. They seem to need to be WAY overprotected. The first jerk that Bush appointed to the Supreme Court upheld a charge against a girl, whom they held in a cell for 8 hours, for eating A (as in a single one) french fry on a subway platform in New York. Apparently it's evil for a child to eat in public. However, during the incident it was reported that there were several adults eating on the platform as well but none of them were arrested.
Soon children are going to be kept in little white boxes controlled by computo-nannies in order to protect them from themselves as well as everything else in the universe until they turn 18 at which point they'll be thrown out into the world and expected to adjust.
Sorry for the rant it's just... GEEZE are these people idiots! And these are the same people who want to ban video games because they can warp your fragile little mind. Believe me, my mind was warped way more by my parents than any video game could ever hope to achieve.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 11, 2007, 12:49:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
My grandfather (who I never met, sadly) had a saying...
"If you're going to steal, steal at least a million dollars. That way, you're not a thief, you're a gentleman."
I never met any of my grandfathers either...but I don't understand what that means.
If anything, stealing a million dollars makes you a master thief.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on January 11, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
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Originally posted by: denjet78Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"If I was a kid and lost a Game Boy with a Pokémon cartridge in it, or had it stolen, I'd bawl my eyes out for days, maybe weeks! Even worse would be if you knew who stole it and by the time the teachers or parents can do anything about it, it's already damaged beyond repair."
At least when you're a kid you can beat up the kid that stole your Gameboy. When you're an adult they have all this annoying law stuff. So if you punch out someone who has it coming you can get arrested for assualt. Being a grown up sucks... except for having money, being able to drive a car, being able to eat cookies for dinner and all sorts of other things your parents frowned on because it was fun, and boobs.
Actually, today you'd probably be arrested and charged with a terrorist activity if you did that. The whole world has gone completely nuts when it comes to kids. They seem to need to be WAY overprotected. The first jerk that Bush appointed to the Supreme Court upheld a charge against a girl, whom they held in a cell for 8 hours, for eating A (as in a single one) french fry on a subway platform in New York. Apparently it's evil for a child to eat in public. However, during the incident it was reported that there were several adults eating on the platform as well but none of them were arrested.
Soon children are going to be kept in little white boxes controlled by computo-nannies in order to protect them from themselves as well as everything else in the universe until they turn 18 at which point they'll be thrown out into the world and expected to adjust.
Sorry for the rant it's just... GEEZE are these people idiots! And these are the same people who want to ban video games because they can warp your fragile little mind. Believe me, my mind was warped way more by my parents than any video game could ever hope to achieve.
It seems like these days child raising has no middle ground. Parents are either super-overprotective or let their kids do anything they want. Kids need exposure to the outside world, but at the same times parents are suppost to be authority figures, not friends.
Post by: UncleBob on January 11, 2007, 03:45:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: UncleBob
So...
who steals music and video games from the internets?
That's not theft, that's copyright infringement. You don't actually take anything from anyone as you can't steal intellectual property.
You say tomato, I say tomato...
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 12, 2007, 01:07:52 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
If anything, stealing a million dollars makes you a master thief.
Well, yeah, but the point is that stealing massive amounts of money is the act of the upper-class elite, like how politicians can pull that sort of thing off and still get away with calling themselves "gentlemen".
Post by: JonLeung on January 12, 2007, 02:03:35 AM
Plus, like I said, successful heists seem so rare now, so if they ever could happen again, it'd certainly be a story.
I think Carmen Sandiego has the potential to be a really hot character; just because the film that might have starred Catherine Zeta-Jones never got through to production doesn't mean they couldn't try again.
I guess I'm changing my tone from when I said stealing is stupid. Well, okay, it always is, but there's plain stupidity, and then there's stupidity with class.
Post by: Sessha on January 12, 2007, 05:43:04 AM
And most crimes are pulled off with so little style. Where are the good old days, when a bank robber wore a Nixon mask and really cased the joint? I've never stole anything, although it would be really stupid if I did. The only asian person in a whole community, I think (I'm not sure) I would get identified pretty quickly.
Post by: Ceric on January 12, 2007, 06:22:27 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 12, 2007, 08:15:20 AM
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Originally posted by: denjet78
Actually, today you'd probably be arrested and charged with a terrorist activity if you did that. The whole world has gone completely nuts when it comes to kids. They seem to need to be WAY overprotected. The first jerk that Bush appointed to the Supreme Court upheld a charge against a girl, whom they held in a cell for 8 hours, for eating A (as in a single one) french fry on a subway platform in New York. Apparently it's evil for a child to eat in public. However, during the incident it was reported that there were several adults eating on the platform as well but none of them were arrested.
Actually the first district court upheld the charge long before Roberts and all Justice Roberts did was state the law was not unconstitutional. It was not a statement whether the law was right or not (it was a stupid law), and in fact the law was changed shortly after. Not sure how a strict constitutionalist makes someone an "idiot" but the point is that it was the cities stupid policy that made it wrong and it was their job to fix it, not the judges. Heck even People for the American Way didn't challenge him.
BTW this is his full opinion on the case
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No one is very happy about the events that led to this litigation. A twelve-year-old girl was arrested, searched, and handcuffed. Her shoelaces were removed, and she was transported in the windowless rear compartment of a police vehicle to a juvenile processing center, where she was booked, fingerprinted, and detained until released to her mother some three hours later — all for eating a single french fry in a Metrorail station. The child was frightened, embarrassed, and crying throughout the ordeal. The district court described the policies that led to her arrest as “foolish,” and indeed the policies were changed after those responsible endured the sort of publicity reserved for adults who make young girls cry. The question before us, however, is not whether these policies were a bad idea, but whether they violated the Fourth and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution. Like the district court, we conclude that they did not, and accordingly we affirm.
ANWAY, I think Shyguy is right, this is a pretty lame thread
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 12, 2007, 08:20:51 AM
Post by: Nephilim on January 12, 2007, 08:24:51 AM
elevators = win
Post by: utarefsoN on January 12, 2007, 09:59:45 AM
