Post by: WindyMan on January 03, 2007, 03:07:30 PM
Go on, we dare you.
(And before you ask, the GameCube review of Twilight Princess is currently in progress.)
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on January 03, 2007, 03:13:56 PM
The rest of the awards pretty much mirrored my own thoughts, but UGH. Now I'll forever harbor a deep hate for NSMB.
Post by: WindyMan on January 03, 2007, 03:32:51 PM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on January 03, 2007, 04:07:32 PM
I shall live with nothing!
/seppuku
Post by: Pryopizm on January 03, 2007, 04:58:02 PM
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on January 03, 2007, 04:58:57 PM
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 03, 2007, 05:10:28 PM
Post by: Viewtiful mario on January 03, 2007, 05:12:25 PM
Post by: WindyMan on January 03, 2007, 05:16:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Viewtiful mario
I can't understand how people think Red Steel looks bad. Shure the cinimas were slapped together but it shure looks better than most gamecube games. In fact, it looks better then most gamecube games I've played (with the eception of the character models).
Uh, you just described a some really important parts of the game's visuals. For a game to look good, the entire thing has to look good. Not just parts of it.
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on January 03, 2007, 05:41:03 PM
Post by: Viewtiful mario on January 03, 2007, 05:41:41 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on January 03, 2007, 05:42:06 PM
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Post by: IceCold on January 03, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
I agree that DS graphics, on the other hand, deserves to go to FFIII from what I've seen of it. Next year, in this category, we'll probably have Tales of the Tempest, Dragon Quest and Zelda competing..
Post by: TrueNerd on January 03, 2007, 07:52:32 PM
Also, Metroid Prime Hunters should have been most disappointing game of the year, not Red Steel. There's a certain expectation that comes with games that bear the Metroid namesake and MPH wasn't even in the ballpark. Prime Pinball is more of a Metroid game then Hunters is. With Red Steel, the hype started out high when it was first announced, but I think most everyone knew the game wasn't a killer app long before it released.
Post by: King of Twitch on January 03, 2007, 08:25:51 PM
Runnerup for me would be the total upheaval of wii launch titles and the new opposite rule for all future announcements by nintendo bigwigs.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 03, 2007, 11:12:05 PM
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2007, 12:39:16 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2007, 01:24:49 AM
Post by: ~J~ on January 04, 2007, 01:53:24 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on January 04, 2007, 02:51:07 AM
From what I saw, I mainly agreed, but it's funny: in spite of all the complaints I've heard about Monkey Ball, I love it, and so does everyone who plays it. I guess it's because we weren't hardcore Monkey Ball fans in the first place.
Post by: Caliban on January 04, 2007, 03:20:33 AM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
/seppuku...TEKKAI.
Fixed. Elite beat Agents is overhyped, it has flaws that make it that much of a game not yet worthy of special attention, it's good, not great.
Post by: 18 Days on January 04, 2007, 03:40:14 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2007, 04:52:38 AM
I don't think anyone who dislikes Metroid Prime Hunters assumed it would be a good game in the first place. We all played the demo the year before. It isn't a real Metroid game and I had low expectations because of that. So I wouldn't say it was disappointing. I sure as hell wasn't looking forward to it. Red Steel at least had some people really hyping it up. Metroid Prime Hunters received backlash from the day it was first shown.
Normally I would consider something like that "whatever Zelda you own" thing to be a cop-out but not in this case. In this case it actually applies. Neither version sucks and both are awesome. You honestly don't really have to compromise. Pick the controls you like better and you don't lose anything.
Post by: MegaByte on January 04, 2007, 05:25:35 AM
Post by: Arbok on January 04, 2007, 05:29:49 AM
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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
Who cares about DQXXL the wii name change was more than surprising, it was shocking.
Fully agree there. You couldn't avoid the topic on these forums when it was first announced, and they always sprawled on for pages and pages when they took place. People really got into the conversations too, with both sides offering up extremes to support their case.
The DQ announcement was big... but didn't have nearly the amount of impact on most as the Wii name did.
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I went about halfway through and then gave up - too many pages, too many awards. No offense to NWR, I hate these things in general.
Another point I would agree on. There were just far too many, and I nearly lost interest in even going to the end but JUST made it to the "Staff Looks to 2007" page and then the "overall" caught my eye so I continued.
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
BATEN KAITOS ISN'T WORTH A PINCH OF SHITT
...die.
I didn't like Origins as much as the first, that I will say. I did love the "wing" feature to speed up movement on screen, which was much needed. However, I much prefered the old card system, as the new one favors not using defensive items at all (whats the point when you can't have that and a weapon equipped at the same time?) and generally speaking about 70% of your deck stayed exactly the same through out the game due to the basic 1/2/3 attack moves. It promoted less grinding, but also made it so most new cards wouldn't ever get used.
Still, it had me hooked from start to finish regardless, and I would suggest it to anyone who liked the first.
Post by: Bloodworth on January 04, 2007, 05:39:47 AM
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Normally I would consider something like that "whatever Zelda you own" thing to be a cop-out but not in this case.
Yeah, there was a pretty substantial debate on what to do about Zelda. Since I prefer sword swinging on Wii, I would have picked the Wii version, but several guys were disappointed or outright hate it. Plus the one staffer that's played both versions could not bring himself to choose one over the other.
Post by: Robageejammin on January 04, 2007, 06:00:03 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 04, 2007, 06:38:37 AM
Red Steel is the new Enter the Matrix.
Post by: JonLeung on January 04, 2007, 06:49:49 AM
QuoteI played it (I'm not PGC staff though). And I liked it. I really wanted to like it a lot more, though.
Originally posted by: MegaByte
I'm just sorry Children of Mana wasn't able to win anything because nobody else had played it.
You'd think it would've gotten recognition for really beautiful hand-drawn backgrounds. Most Mana games at least have that.
EDIT: Oops, I see that it was nominated at least.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on January 04, 2007, 06:57:00 AM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
/seppuku...TEKKAI.
Fixed. Elite beat Agents is overhyped, it has flaws that make it that much of a game not yet worthy of special attention, it's good, not great.
You're insane in the membrane, and possibly in the brain as well.
Post by: vudu on January 04, 2007, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: Rhoq on January 04, 2007, 09:04:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Red Steel confirmed financial success, reality phail.
Red Steel is the new Enter the Matrix.
I like Red Steel much better (and am still playing through it). Funny thing is, I've tried to sell my copy of Enter The Matrix on several occasions to different stores which buy used games and none of them would take it off of my hands.
Post by: WindyMan on January 04, 2007, 09:17:18 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
The editor of this article needs to be fired (or at least severely reprimanded). TYP's name is misspelled four times--twice on this page and twice on this page. Michael, not Micheal.
If we did that every time we spelled someone's name wrong, there wouldn't be anyone left on the site. Lighten up.
Fixed now, though. Thanks for pointing that out (and sorry TYP).
Post by: vudu on January 04, 2007, 09:41:31 AM
Post by: wandering on January 04, 2007, 10:54:31 AM
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you're still going to get the most amazing Zelda experience you have ever played in your entire life.
Speak for yourself! OOT 4 life!
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I don't know what folks were smoking when they voted Castlevania as prettiest DS game. It's good and all, but is it really all that much better or more amazing than Dawn of Sorrow?
I'd say it's less pretty, from what I've seen....
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Normally I would consider something like that "whatever Zelda you own" thing to be a cop-out but not in this case. In this case it actually applies.
Right. The things that are amazing about the game are not system specific.
Post by: Mario on January 04, 2007, 11:31:27 AM
Props for the Wii Sports love, I'd actually give that GOTY over Zelda.
Best publisher Square-Enix is a joke, let this non-game company die already.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2007, 11:32:37 AM
Nuts to that! Link's Awakening DX 4evar!!
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 04, 2007, 11:51:19 AM
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
BATEN KAITOS ISN'T WORTH A PINCH OF SHITT
Correct.
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I'm just sorry Children of Mana wasn't able to win anything because nobody else had played it.
The review said it best, it was Diablo, minus the fun which Diablo arguably didn't have much of anyway.
And yeah, these are all games I've either played or resolved not to play anyway.
Post by: Smoke39 on January 04, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
Also, while I certainly dug TP, I think calling it without a doubt the best Zelda ever is going a little overboard, personally. Also, I've already complained about its music, so needless to say I don't think your praise of it was deserved. :b
Post by: Djunknown on January 04, 2007, 01:48:39 PM
Red Steel was the second game from Ubisoft that suffered from overhype. XIII takes the cake though, but its similar. Red Steel was supposed to be the knockout hit, the one that would address Nintendo's shortcomings: Lack of 'mature' content and exclusive 3rd party support. Instead, its a mixed bag at its best. While XIII tanked, Prince of Persia came and swept the gaming world off its feet. Where Red Steel stumbled, Raving Rabids picked up the slack.
I like the VC award category. My suggestion would be for next year would be to break it up by systems: Each system has their respective best entry, it'd be a shame to just pick one title out of the (hopefully) many games coming out this year.
Post by: Djunknown on January 04, 2007, 01:49:21 PM
Post by: ~J~ on January 04, 2007, 01:52:06 PM
...or can I?
Post by: Bloodworth on January 04, 2007, 02:17:51 PM
Post by: segagamer12 on January 05, 2007, 03:17:13 AM
NSMB was the BEST mario game ina LONG time and I really enjoyed it through and through. If it wasnt for Wii coming out though I wouldnt have paid much attention to any Nintendo console games ebcause the GC stuff was very slim and for me mostly lacking. Zelda is awesome so far and it keeps getting better and better.
The biggest disapointment for me was no online for Wii at launch but I should have expected that.
Post by: vudu on January 05, 2007, 05:50:03 AM
QuoteI want to take this opportunity to point out that Ian's favorite Zelda game (perhaps favorite game, period) is a port.
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Speak for yourself! OOT 4 life!"
Nuts to that! Link's Awakening DX 4evar!!
Post by: Ian Sane on January 05, 2007, 07:04:34 AM
Touche. But it is the better version still.
Post by: segagamer12 on January 05, 2007, 07:44:33 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 05, 2007, 07:48:54 AM
The "Let it die" award for a series that has been producing nothing but crap for years but refuses to die?
I want to take this opportunity to point out that Ian's favorite Zelda game (perhaps favorite game, period) is a port.
You mean a director's cut. And hey, why would he prefer the unenhanced version unless he had a faible for abusing the select bug?
I don't think the Wii name announcement deserves an award as surprising. A games console gets renamed from a highly pretentious and generic name to a unique one that is clearly specific to the product? Where's the surprise? Oh, right, in American every single syllable word refers to genitals in some way.
