Post by: Smash_Brother on December 19, 2006, 04:55:05 AM
Sorry if this is somewhat old news (don't recall seeing it), but it sounds like Reggie spoke to Rockstar personally in an effort to get GTA brought to the Wii.
If this is true, this will at long last stamp out the residual "Nintendo is teh kiddé, LOLOL!!!!" sentiment which Sony and MS always tried to label them with.
Post by: UncleBob on December 19, 2006, 04:57:41 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 19, 2006, 05:01:12 AM
I don't care much for the GTA franchise, but this will bode well for the Wii.
Post by: JonLeung on December 19, 2006, 05:10:16 AM
I don't particularly care much for Rockstar myself (GTA III was one of the few games I actually grew tired of on the PC) but I can kind of understand the appeal and would like it if other people could play Rockstar's kind of games on the Wii even if I don't.
Their table tennis game would be better on the Wii with real table tennis motions, though for some reason I get the feeling that the simpler one in Wii Play could even outsell a possible Wii version of their table tennis game...which might turn Rockstar off...
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on December 19, 2006, 10:51:39 AM
Post by: Majora on December 19, 2006, 11:51:22 PM
Besides, GTA on Wii, sells consoles, console sales recruit 3rd party developers, more developers, more games... lol, but we all know that. Hope it happens.
Post by: Nick DiMola on December 20, 2006, 01:24:58 AM
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Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Frankly, I consider a lack of GTA games a badge of honor.
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. There is no badge of honor, it's more like Nintendo is the fat kid on a school yard who didn't get picked to play kickball. GTA or any other majorly popular game, regardless of content, that comes to your system is a blessing. Like Majora states above, there is a significant chain of events that occur as a result of bringing on a GTA game.
It is elitist BS like this statement that keeps the Nintendo fanboy image in people's minds. Our system is not "too good" for a GTA game, that is flat out arrogance.
Post by: ryancoke on December 20, 2006, 02:49:11 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on December 20, 2006, 03:10:54 AM
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Originally posted by: ryancoke
I would love to see GTA on Wii. As a semi-former PS2 fanboy I couldn't get enough of the series. The only one I haven't played and loved was Vice City Stories for PSP. If they do bring GTA to the Wii I just hope it's not a port of one of the previous games. And I hope it's not "mortal-kombatized" (That's a rib at MK on SNES in case you don't get it)
It's a testament to what a big deal that Mortal Kombat fiasco was that people still think Nintendo might be censoring games after all these years. Granted, Nintendo hasn't had anything quite like GTA on a home console, but at the very least consider that BMX XXX was censored on PS2 and not GameCube. Times have changed!
Post by: JonLeung on December 20, 2006, 03:47:53 AM
Most M-rated games that focus on gratuitousness (language, sex, violence) are crap. (Even I dislike Conker's Bad Fur Day, at least in comparison to the Rare's less-linear, more-stuff-to-collect N64 adventures that didn't seem to take as long to develop.) Immature is more accurate.
GTA (especially III) was a big deal at the time, but it was one of the first "sandbox" games that really hit it off. The option to be bad was there, snipe random people, have a prostitute restore your health, etc., which is what the big deal was, I guess. Then there was that whole San Andreas "Hot Coffee" thing but for the most part its peak (in controversy and even popularity. I'd wager) has passed. I've played some of III, I'm guessing that the GTA games since then have added a lot of features, so it doesn't fall automatically into my M-rated-for-gratuitousness-so-it-must-be-crap filter. (And I know San Andreas is now AO but whatever.)
And even if it was/is crap, well, it's crap that sells. We may like to think Nintendo has higher standards than the competition but, and Reggie's interest confirms this - they aren't too high and mighty to pass up a franchise with the selling power of GTA.
(Doesn't GTA stand for "Greater Toronto Area"? Do non-gaming people living in Ontario get confused when people say "GTA's so violent!"?)
Post by: ryancoke on December 20, 2006, 05:36:30 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 20, 2006, 06:35:36 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on December 20, 2006, 07:04:55 AM
Overall I think this would be a big win for Nintendo, but I don't really care about the series myself.
Post by: Link_ on December 20, 2006, 07:09:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. JackQuote
Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Frankly, I consider a lack of GTA games a badge of honor.
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. There is no badge of honor, it's more like Nintendo is the fat kid on a school yard who didn't get picked to play kickball. GTA or any other majorly popular game, regardless of content, that comes to your system is a blessing. Like Majora states above, there is a significant chain of events that occur as a result of bringing on a GTA game.
It is elitist BS like this statement that keeps the Nintendo fanboy image in people's minds. Our system is not "too good" for a GTA game, that is flat out arrogance.
i dont see it like that,i see it more like GTA playing kids want to be so "cool" that they need need to feel they are doing some "bad stuff" to belong to this little low grade bunch in school.
Post by: Link_ on December 20, 2006, 07:11:43 AM
Post by: Kairon on December 20, 2006, 08:47:59 AM
Actually, back in 2000, I was personally eyeing DMA as one of the few companies I saw as worth the trouble of Nintendo appropriating as a second party. This is pre GTA too.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 20, 2006, 08:50:23 AM
Post by: Madcat221 on December 20, 2006, 03:26:22 PM
Midna, a NINTENDO CREATED CHARACTER, is (technically) topless when her true form is revealed.
Post by: TrueNerd on December 20, 2006, 05:36:20 PM
QuoteDMA developed the SNES sleeper hit Uniracers, correct? DMA aka Rockstar North = More then a one trick pony.
Originally posted by: Kairon
Well, REGARDLESS of a lot of GTA players, the games really are wonderful titles that I wouldn't mind exploring, in terms of design, content, and social satire. Afterall, this is DMA we're talking about, just because they've been renamed to "Rockstar North" doesn't mean that I've lost interest in their unique brand of games.
Actually, back in 2000, I was personally eyeing DMA as one of the few companies I saw as worth the trouble of Nintendo appropriating as a second party. This is pre GTA too.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
By the way, Uniracers NEEDS to be released on the Virtual Console. Nintendo published it and that definitely needs to happen.
Post by: IceCold on December 20, 2006, 07:00:29 PM
QuotePssh, what about the Great Fairy in OoT? And the end of all of the Metroid games.. They even dirtified Peach in Strikers.
Midna, a NINTENDO CREATED CHARACTER, is (technically) topless when her true form is revealed
Post by: couchmonkey on December 21, 2006, 01:53:42 AM
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Originally posted by: TrueNerdQuoteDMA developed the SNES sleeper hit Uniracers, correct? DMA aka Rockstar North = More then a one trick pony.
Originally posted by: Kairon
Well, REGARDLESS of a lot of GTA players, the games really are wonderful titles that I wouldn't mind exploring, in terms of design, content, and social satire. Afterall, this is DMA we're talking about, just because they've been renamed to "Rockstar North" doesn't mean that I've lost interest in their unique brand of games.
Actually, back in 2000, I was personally eyeing DMA as one of the few companies I saw as worth the trouble of Nintendo appropriating as a second party. This is pre GTA too.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
By the way, Uniracers NEEDS to be released on the Virtual Console. Nintendo published it and that definitely needs to happen.
I know it's just my anti-violence bias speaking, but I feel like DMA has been restricted since Grand Theft Auto hit the big time. It's all sequels to Grand Theft Auto, plus Manhunt (apparently they aren't even responsible for "Bully"?). That's disappointing compared to the old days when they developed Lemmings, Uniracers, Space Station: Silicon Valley and Body Harvest.
Granted, Body Harvest and SS: Silicon Valley share a lot of basic concepts with GTA. The Wikipedia entry on Rockstar North is fun - apparently an N64 version of Grand Theft Auto I was once in the works.
Post by: ryancoke on December 21, 2006, 02:27:18 AM
Post by: The Omen on March 01, 2007, 04:25:35 PM
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Originally posted by: ryancoke
Manhunt was a sweet game. Definately not for the kiddies.
Hmm, I wonder if they would ever make a sequel?:-p
Post by: couchmonkey on March 02, 2007, 02:56:08 AM
Post by: ryancoke on March 02, 2007, 03:09:35 AM
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on March 02, 2007, 07:56:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. JackQuote
Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Frankly, I consider a lack of GTA games a badge of honor.
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. There is no badge of honor, it's more like Nintendo is the fat kid on a school yard who didn't get picked to play kickball. GTA or any other majorly popular game, regardless of content, that comes to your system is a blessing. Like Majora states above, there is a significant chain of events that occur as a result of bringing on a GTA game.
It is elitist BS like this statement that keeps the Nintendo fanboy image in people's minds. Our system is not "too good" for a GTA game, that is flat out arrogance.
Frankly, I fail to see how being appalled by the general skankiness of the GTA series counts as "elitist BS." I wouldn't touch the series with a ten foot pole, even if it had been a Nintendo exclusive all along (if it were, though, I probably wouldn't consider myself a Nintendo fan). Having a moral objection to a video game doesn't make you "arrogant." It's not like I'm bashing people that like GTA, after all.
And you know, I really don't think that bringing on GTA would put a nail in the coffin of people thinking that Nintendo is childish. I mean, people thought the same thing would happen when Mortal Kombat II for the SNES featured blood and guts, and then thought it all over again when Resident Evil 2 was released on the N64. And then yet again with the Cube-exclusive Eternal Darkness. Didn't happen. Folks can keep thinking that GTA will be the one to turn around a 10+ year trend of Nintendo being for the kiddos, but I have my doubts.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 02, 2007, 08:05:55 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 02, 2007, 08:13:38 AM
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Folks can keep thinking that GTA will be the one to turn around a 10+ year trend of Nintendo being for the kiddos, but I have my doubts.
I think the Wii itself largely already did that.
I haven't met anyone who doesn't like Wii Sports or, more to the point, looks at it and thinks it's for children. There's something about showing someone their own likeness on screen which transcends the question of age-appropriation.
Post by: Pittbboi on March 02, 2007, 08:38:23 AM
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Folks can keep thinking that GTA will be the one to turn around a 10+ year trend of Nintendo being for the kiddos, but I have my doubts.
Well, it's not going to be any one game that turns around this image. Nintendo's going to need a slew of adult-oriented titles (and maybe one first party offering) to turn around the "just for kiddos" image. Having GTA alone won't do that (just like Manhunt 2 alone won't do it either), but they would be good starts, and shunning either of the titles would a do a lot more towards re-establishing that kiddie image than having them on the console would do to abolish it.
They day having an adult-oriented title announced for a Nintendo console stops being a "big deal" will be the day that perception is gone.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 02, 2007, 09:24:13 AM
We talk about it cuz someone, somewhere mentions that word on the internet for the sake of discussion, even when there may be nothing going on that day to create the necessary impulse to bother identifying it as an issue.
Post by: Ages on March 02, 2007, 09:31:54 AM
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Originally posted by: IceColdQuotePssh, what about the Great Fairy in OoT? And the end of all of the Metroid games.. They even dirtified Peach in Strikers.
Midna, a NINTENDO CREATED CHARACTER, is (technically) topless when her true form is revealed
Can't argue with the Great Fairy...I always thought she looked like a prostitute.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 02, 2007, 09:51:04 AM
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