Post by: Svevan on December 10, 2006, 06:18:41 PM
Update: Nintendo has also added Ice Hockey for NES to this week's new releases.
Both Sega and Hudson have spilled the mean beans about their contributions to tomorrow's Virtual Console update. Hudson's website lists just Alien Crush so far, but Sega's Virtual Console page not only lists Gunstar Heroes and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine as tomorrow's releases, but also details their Virtual Console schedule through the end of the year:
Space Harrier II - December 18th
Toejam and Earl - December 25th
Post by: segagamer12 on December 10, 2006, 07:00:50 PM
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Post by: Caliban on December 11, 2006, 03:28:26 AM
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 11, 2006, 04:10:08 AM
Post by: Caliban on December 11, 2006, 04:10:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
It's not 9 AM PST yet...
Oh, it's PST, thanks Bill.
Post by: Ceric on December 11, 2006, 04:54:58 AM
Post by: ThePerm on December 11, 2006, 05:05:35 AM
i got into space harrier through shenmue!
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 11, 2006, 05:13:47 AM
I am hoping that Nintendo will get their act together closer to Christmas and give us Super Mario World, and Donkey Kong Country.
Also, Nintendo and Sega need to drop their SNES and Genesis prices to that of the TurboGrax 16 and then drop the NES games to 3 dollars.
I am still ok with the price of Nintendo 64 games.
Post by: Donutt007 on December 11, 2006, 05:43:19 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on December 11, 2006, 05:55:31 AM
Space Harrier 2 isn't an arcade port, it's an original Gensis sequel to Space Harrier. The Genesis version is the only one ever made so however good it is is the best you're going to get.
Nice to see Gunstar Heroes out. That pretty much makes the whole VC worthwhile right there. I also like how Sega is giving us future release dates. Why the hell are freaking SEGA doing a better job with their VC stuff than Nintendo is?
Post by: KDR_11k on December 11, 2006, 05:59:50 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 11, 2006, 06:47:51 AM
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Yeah. I couldn't justify Gunstar Heroes yet. The Genesis games are just to highly priced.
You've got to be ****ing kidding me...Gunstar Heroes at 8 bucks is a BARGAIN! >=O
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Why the hell are freaking SEGA doing a better job with their VC stuff than Nintendo is?
It's called Nintendo not wanting to turn third parties away from the VC because all of their huge hits are outselling every other third party title...In other words, smart business sense...
Post by: TrueNerd on December 11, 2006, 08:14:38 AM
Post by: ShreddersDojo on December 11, 2006, 08:15:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
It's not 9 AM PST yet...
Oh, it's PST, thanks Bill.
Don't you know not everything is ruled by PST time? Everything should be based on EST time, and NO Exceptions !
.Post by: Jonnyboy117 on December 11, 2006, 08:48:36 AM
But I wanna know where are the N64 games? Good grief. For that matter, where are the good NES games that weren't already released on GBA?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 11, 2006, 08:55:08 AM
I think it's more likely Nintendo trying to increase sales for their own weaker titles by not having the really great titles available. No one would buy junk like Pinball or Urban Champion otherwise. I don't buy this "Nintendo is sucking on purpose to help third parties" story for a second. We've already seen this used a canned excuse for any shortcomings with the DS or Wii launches and likely all future Nintendo system launches. But then I also think the idea of third party games selling poorly because Nintendo's titles are too good is a myth itself. Funny how that scenario never seemed to occur on the NES, SNES, GBC or GBA. It seems to only occur for Nintendo systems with weak market share. I think the real problem is that the userbase is too small and has a disproportionate amount of Nintendo fans within it (in other words only Nintendo fans are willing to buy an underacheiving Nintendo console) and thus weak third party games don't sell as well as they would with a larger and more varied userbase. The solution to the problem is too attract a broader group of gamers instead of just Nintendo fans and hardcore gamers that buy every console.
"For that matter, where are the good NES games that weren't already released on GBA?"
It's easier to get people to buy something they already own if you're not also offering something better that they don't own.
Post by: Svevan on December 11, 2006, 09:12:49 AM
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A year later Sega has worked through their entire library while Nintendo is still releasing heavy hitters.
Why defend this action? You're saying that it's a bad idea for Sega to get as many good games out there as possible - why? Only Nintendo would think that having less good games out at once is a bad idea. While ToeJam and Earl will continue to sell from Christmas of 06 on into the future (proportionate to the increase in Wii owners over the next few years), there will be ZERO sales on LTTP, DKC, Super Metroid, etc etc until Nintendo makes them freaking available. There's no development time, marketing, licensing issues that mandate a delay, only Nintendo's desire to stagger releases strategically. Sega, on the other hand, will get high sales for their good games and low sales for their bad games. If there are niche titles that no one understands or knows about, the key to selling it is to EDUCATE, not drop it in a desert and expect the thirsty fiends to wrestle for it. It's idiotic to support a "less games now" philosophy, if that means we won't get something amazing like Mischief Makers or Buck Bumble until 2008. I will buy these games NOW if available, and I would've bought Gunstar Heroes whether it was released on launch day or yesterday.
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 11, 2006, 09:31:51 AM
Post by: IceCold on December 11, 2006, 10:39:32 AM
QuoteI find it absolutely hilarious that I just read the Top 100 DS sales chart in the Sales Thread.. The DS's userbase is about as large and varied as you can get, but it was all Nintendo's doing. Third parties who refused to believe that the DS would take off, or ones who released horrible games for the system are now stuck..
But then I also think the idea of third party games selling poorly because Nintendo's titles are too good is a myth itself. Funny how that scenario never seemed to occur on the NES, SNES, GBC or GBA. It seems to only occur for Nintendo systems with weak market share. I think the real problem is that the userbase is too small and has a disproportionate amount of Nintendo fans within it (in other words only Nintendo fans are willing to buy an underacheiving Nintendo console) and thus weak third party games don't sell as well as they would with a larger and more varied userbase. The solution to the problem is too attract a broader group of gamers instead of just Nintendo fans and hardcore gamers that buy every console.
And guess how Nintendo expanded their market, and attracted a broader group instead of just Nintendo fans and hardcore gamers that buy every console? Their nongamer strategy, of course!
