Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 11:06:35 AM
Fascism Reigns.
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 05, 2006, 11:24:33 AM
GO GO GO
Post by: vudu on December 05, 2006, 11:57:10 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 12:06:38 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on December 05, 2006, 12:07:23 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on December 05, 2006, 12:10:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
I have NO IDEA what "trans fat" is....
transgender fat. It's what happens when 18days gets a little chubby.
Post by: vudu on December 05, 2006, 12:15:09 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on December 05, 2006, 12:29:01 PM
QuoteROFLMAO
Originally posted by: ShyGuyQuote
Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
I have NO IDEA what "trans fat" is....
transgender fat. It's what happens when 18days gets a little chubby.
QuoteI see, what an unintutive name it has in English though....
Originally posted by: vudu
It's what happens when oil is hydrogenated. It's not good for the body. But it tastes so goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood.
Post by: Pale on December 05, 2006, 02:40:10 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 05, 2006, 03:32:09 PM
Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 03:37:01 PM
Post by: 18 Days on December 05, 2006, 04:17:04 PM
Everyone knows cigarettes are bad for you, and the ciagarette companies got hit int he courts. Fast food should be treated the same.
Post by: Svevan on December 05, 2006, 04:28:02 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2006, 07:43:43 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on December 06, 2006, 07:09:09 AM
QuoteOH NOES! the world will end now!
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
McDonalds took out all the trans-fat and now their fries are no longer worth getting out of bed just to drive down to MickeyD's at 11pm just to satisfy a salty greasy craving. The fries have lost that "something special". It is a sad day for America.... Our #1 world wide fat inducing fast food chain has lost their hook. There is no longetr a good reason to goto McDonalds over BK, Wendy's or Jacks
Post by: Ceric on December 06, 2006, 08:58:20 AM
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
Maybe then you might eat LESS of it!
Everyone knows cigarettes are bad for you, and the ciagarette companies got hit int he courts. Fast food should be treated the same.
I'm about 6 foot tall I weigh around 155 pounds. I don't need to eat less trust me. I need to eat more.
Post by: matt oz on December 06, 2006, 11:40:37 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2006, 05:50:17 PM
QuoteIts true, it will end.... NOW!!!
Originally posted by: Athrun ZalaQuoteOH NOES! the world will end now!
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
McDonalds took out all the trans-fat and now their fries are no longer worth getting out of bed just to drive down to MickeyD's at 11pm just to satisfy a salty greasy craving. The fries have lost that "something special". It is a sad day for America.... Our #1 world wide fat inducing fast food chain has lost their hook. There is no longetr a good reason to goto McDonalds over BK, Wendy's or Jacks
But seriously, a lady at work even brought this up today while she was eating her Taco Bell. She asked "Did McDonalds do something to thier fries? They don't taste the same anymore. I bought some the other day and ended up thowing most of them away. They just weren't that good. "
I explained everything, and then she agreed with me.
If you are so worried about your health that you monitor your cholesterol and fat intake, then maybe you shouldn'tr be eating the damn fast food anyway. Leave it alone, if its not good for you then go somewhere else or go make your own. I shouldn't have to be health aware just cause you can't say no to an X-tra large fries 3-4 times a week. I shouldn't be deprived just beacuse instead of walking to the store 3 blocks from your house, you decided to drive, and just because you drove you decided to go a few blocks more and get some more McDonalds.
sorry, I guess I got a little carried away, but I used to really like McD's fries and now they are garbage, so excuse me for venting.
Post by: Svevan on December 06, 2006, 05:52:48 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2006, 05:56:02 PM
QuoteThats good, cause I was just stating that there is no longer a good reason to goto McDonalds, w/o their fries they have nothing.
Originally posted by: Svevan
I am eating Wendy's RIGHT NOW.
Post by: vudu on December 07, 2006, 12:05:57 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 07, 2006, 01:06:45 AM
Post by: Smoke39 on December 07, 2006, 04:25:52 AM
Post by: Arbok on December 07, 2006, 04:40:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Smoke39
I hear the dressing that comes with McDonald's salads is just as full of fat and badness as their other stuff.
What is poor Paul Newman being accused of this time?
Post by: ShyGuy on December 07, 2006, 04:57:59 AM
Post by: King of Twitch on December 07, 2006, 06:34:48 AM
>>Free DS Wi-fi FTW
Post by: decoyman on December 07, 2006, 09:32:29 AM
Trans fat is bad. Really, really bad. The news that New York has banned it is very welcome in my eyes because it's something that needs to be banned everywhere. It's been banned in European countries for years already. Why? Simple: do you like cancer? Trans fat greatly increases your risk for certain types of cancer (like prostate). Even the tiniest amounts of it increase your risk, so you have to really watch out. I think there are other bad things associated with it, but that's the biggie.
It's in so many things too – even things that say "No Trans Fat!" on the packaging. Apparently, the FDA folks say that companies can label a product with the little "No Trans Fat" seal if there's less than 1g per serving. It's a pretty scary/deceptive loophole, but there's a way to watch for it anyways. Just check the ingredients: if you see anything that says "partially hydrogenated (some type of oil)" then it's got trans fat in it. Now, here's where vudu's and my information differ: from what I understand, fully hydrogenated oils are ok, but it's the partially hydrogenated ones that cause the problems. I don't know either way, so I just avoid them both. (shrug)
And, why should the government be doing this? Ignorance. Because consumers don't know any better, and don't seek out the information for themselves, it's up to the government to protect them. Perhaps if there were some "No trans fat" advocacy group out there, consumer demand would be enough. Such a group doesn't exist, or if it does, it is no match for the big food industry lobbyists, so they're restricted to a low profile. I don't know what the reason is, but the more laws like this exist, the less I have to preach to my friends and family about the dangers of trans fat. And, yes, you guys count as friends. Awww!
So avoid hydrogenated oils and by association trans fat! Be a smart, well-informed consumer and look at the ingredients of the stuff you buy and make your voice heard with your dollars. Trans fat is bad and shouldn't be used. Maybe if we make enough of an impact this way, laws banning it won't be necessary, because it won't make good business sense for companies to continue using ingrdients which hurt its consumers.
END RANT.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 07, 2006, 11:18:45 AM
Post by: vudu on December 07, 2006, 12:05:12 PM
What the government needs to do is to educate consumers on the dangers of trans fats. If you do this and enough customers decide for themselves to avoid trans fats companies will stop using the product on their own. It's stupid that our government needs to step in the decide for us what's right and what's wrong.
What's the next step? Ban all fatty foods? Ban alcohol? What about red meat? Any kind of meat?
This is no different than first amendment rights. If you open the door just a little bit people will step in and take away your rights.
We're this close to waking up and realizing we're no longer making any decisions in our own lives.
Long live the United States of Airstrip One. 1984 reference.
Post by: decoyman on December 07, 2006, 12:39:17 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.
I AM SERIOUS :-[
(just like trans fat!)
Post by: Smoke39 on December 07, 2006, 01:24:47 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.
You put the apostrophe in the wrong place. Decoyman got it right. Loser.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 07, 2006, 01:40:56 PM
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Originally posted by: Smoke39Quote
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
with your serious 'mo This thread is coming a little too close to PHAIL.
You put the apostrophe in the wrong place. Decoyman got it right. Loser.
The apostrophe was supposed to be a subtle satire.
Post by: Smoke39 on December 07, 2006, 01:43:08 PM
Post by: vudu on December 07, 2006, 02:06:56 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on December 08, 2006, 12:32:26 AM
Quotewell, here it's THIS close of that happening... (around March, smoking in closed and public areas was banned, and the cigarettes' boxes have a pretty big ad (3/4 of the box actually..) with a disturbing image... obviously, since the actual president is an onclogist, that makes sense
Originally posted by: vudu
Cigarettes cause cancer. Despite what the tobacco companies try to tell you it's a proven fact. But that doesn't mean they should be banned all together.
)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2006, 04:06:18 AM
VOTE Pro Choice!!
Post by: couchmonkey on December 08, 2006, 06:02:10 AM
Post by: decoyman on December 08, 2006, 07:02:47 AM
Here, take this picture of my cat and her massive arm, and imagine her saying, "How YOU doin'?"
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 08, 2006, 07:18:15 AM
And now, I must return to indulging in my deep and abiding passion for all things Thai. :-]
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 09, 2006, 03:43:44 AM
QuoteVegetable oils are very unstable for heating/cooking, they break down into carcinogens and free radicals almost as soon as you heat them. They have very high smoke points, but still are chemically unstable. So one of the reasons why the oils are hydrogenated is to improve the longevity of the oil. In otherwords, restraunts do not want to replace their cooking oil everyday, it would be prohibitivly expensive. Hence, hydrogenation.
Originally posted by: Pale
It doesn't really taste any better. Companies don't use it because it tastes better. They use it because they can achieve similar taste at a much lower cost.
The highly monosaturated oils are pretty chemcially stable (i.e. Olive oil), but again are prohibitivly expensive.
Post by: Ceric on December 09, 2006, 10:11:27 AM
Post by: MaryJane on December 09, 2006, 11:31:30 AM
OH NO!
The government is trying to help us FASCISM!!!
Let us fall on faces first (or in this case fat a$$es) then we'll blame the government because we can't accept responsibility for actions (like the fact of the matter that we elect this same government we believe is trying to oppress us) and we'll protect our freedom!
Post by: Ceric on December 09, 2006, 02:44:59 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on December 09, 2006, 03:16:14 PM
I DEMAND MORE AWESOME CAT PICTURES!
Post by: segagamer12 on December 09, 2006, 06:38:32 PM
Post by: MaryJane on December 10, 2006, 02:11:22 AM
M rated games are entertainment, allowing people to eat something that kills them isn't smart, i don't know why marijuana is illegal in most places when alcohol isn't and it is so much worse for you.
Have you seen those commercials where they talk about how someone who was high gets in so many fatal accidents? For one thing the number they use is incomparable to drunk drivers, the other is that an independent group did a study on that and determined that test weren't actually conclusive since THC stays in your system for 4 weeks or more, they tried to determine by the levels, but all that actually be determined is that in the cases they used the driver had smoked within 7 days of the accident. AND if you're an alcoholic and you try to quit cold turkey you could die! It has happened, no one has ever died from quitting herion cold turkey but from a legalized substance you can?
Complaining about banning trans fats, is like complaining about banning ecoli. IT KILLS YOU!
Post by: segagamer12 on December 10, 2006, 05:53:30 PM
Post by: Svevan on December 10, 2006, 05:59:51 PM
POSTED BY MARYJANE
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Complaining about banning trans fats, is like complaining about banning ecoli. IT KILLS YOU!
So does MARIJUANA.
Post by: segagamer12 on December 10, 2006, 06:41:16 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on December 10, 2006, 08:47:19 PM
Post by: segagamer12 on December 11, 2006, 06:18:11 AM
