Post by: Gamebasher on November 27, 2006, 06:03:57 AM
There is a really cool video, showing for the first time what Banjo and Kazooie looks like at a much higher resolution, and with thus a lot more detail on the characters. Truly, this is going to be awesome when it comes out! Way to go Rare/Microsoft!
The preview with accompanying video´s is found
HERE
Post by: Ceric on November 27, 2006, 06:09:02 AM
I personally don't mind the look and I can see why they went with a more puppet feel.
Post by: JonLeung on November 27, 2006, 06:12:59 AM
But I don't currently own an Xbox 360 and this game, if exclusive to it, and if good, is still not enough to convince me to get one. (I have a decent PC so the only actually exclusive Xbox 360 game that I'm interested in so far is Dead Rising, which as far as I know isn't coming to the PC.) The people that I do know that have or might have an Xbox 360, well, this isn't their kind of game.
Post by: vudu on November 27, 2006, 06:16:58 AM
QuoteLinky.
Originally posted by: Ceric
We do have a thread were we discussed it though I forget which one it was. To summarize. Most hate the new druggy look and feel that Rare couldn' t develope themselves out of a wet paper bag lately.
Post by: Artimus on November 27, 2006, 07:17:50 AM
Post by: Pikachelsea on November 27, 2006, 09:39:19 AM
- I have no plans to buy a 360
- Virtually all of Rare's post-Nintendo offerings have sucked mightily or been mediocre at best (Grabbed By The Ghoulies, Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo, etc)
- I loved B-K, but wasn't quite as charmed with B-T and was very unimpressed with how they handled the whole "Stop 'n Swop" fiasco (B-K fans will know what I'm talking about)
- I don't like the new art style
Of course, I'll be interested in seeing what kind of reviews it gets when it comes out a few decades from now on the Xbox 720, but for now I'm OK with giving bear and bird the cold shoulder.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 27, 2006, 03:16:26 PM
Post by: segagamer12 on November 27, 2006, 06:25:58 PM
Post by: capamerica on November 28, 2006, 01:47:37 AM
Rare makes Sub-Par games at best. If you think Banjo-Kazooie 3 is going to be even half of what Banjo-Kazooie was to you, you are going to be in for one rude wakeup call.
I was never a big fan of rare when they were part of Nintendo sure Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were decent FPS on a console and Conker was fun to go through once, but outside that I have never really cared for any of Rare's games. And every game they have made for the Xbox and Xbox360 have been really bad. heck even the Conker remake was awful.
The Rare you knew and loved is long dead, all MS has is the rotting corps.
Do yourself a favior and move on.
Post by: Artimus on November 28, 2006, 04:04:33 AM
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Originally posted by: segagamer12
I hate Banjo Kazooie and will never play another one of those damn games again. I was playing Gruntys Revenge and kept trying to do that catch the sheep thing and got so fruystrated I splammed my Ds down onto the coffe table and cracked my screen. so I will nevr play one of thier stupid games ever again.
Hahahaha. That's hilarious.
Post by: ThePerm on November 28, 2006, 05:12:36 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 28, 2006, 06:36:45 AM
BK2 got tiring with all of the damn collecting.
DK64 cemented the fact that Rare has a serious hardon for collectathons.
BK3 will somehow devise a way to see to it that players never stop collecting.
Post by: couchmonkey on November 28, 2006, 07:22:35 AM
However, DK64 came out before BK2, and Conker's Bad Fur Day had just about the least collecting I've seen in a platformer since Super Mario 64. The thing is that during the N64/PSX era, "collecting" wasn't a dirty word. I don't think the collecting hate really became mainstream until after DK64 came out. That game was the camel that broke the collector's back.
Personally I don't even mind collecting as long as it's not a huge percentage of my play time. It took me almost 20 hours to figure out where eveything was in Super Mario Sunshine, and I even resorted to a Player's Guide.
Post by: IceCold on November 28, 2006, 09:43:06 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on November 28, 2006, 10:10:18 AM
In Rare games the piddle and crap you get often does NOTHING. Notes in Banjo-Kazooie do nothing at all. They're just some arbitrary item you have to collect in order to proceed. DK64 look it to ridiculous extremes by making you collect useless crap with five different characters. I think Rare got into this collecting mode with DKC2. In DKC there are tons of secrets and they contain useful rewards like free lives and bananas that like Mario coins give you free lives for every hundred. In DKC2 secrets were just used to get further in the lost world. You were rewarded with Krem Coins to spend to access secret levels. That wasn't as fun. It made the secrets feel more mandatory. They became work. In DKC secrets were optional and helped you on your quest. You could access the entire game without finding ANY of them. They only contributed to your final percentage.
I like Rare but if they made Metroid missiles would do nothing but unlock areas. Items in games should be real sh!t that does something useful.
Post by: Kairon on November 28, 2006, 10:29:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
One thing Rare probably failed to notice about Super Mario 64 is that in reality it didn't have collecting. Stars were just the marker for the end of an objective. It wasn't about finding stars, it was about completing objectives. To progess to later levels you needed to have done a certain amount of objectives. Stars were just an easy way for the player to see their progress and thus know how much more they had to do to get further in the game. Yeah you had to collect coins for some stars but coins in themselves had a practical purpose. They gave you health. They did something.
In Rare games the piddle and crap you get often does NOTHING. Notes in Banjo-Kazooie do nothing at all. They're just some arbitrary item you have to collect in order to proceed. DK64 look it to ridiculous extremes by making you collect useless crap with five different characters. I think Rare got into this collecting mode with DKC2. In DKC there are tons of secrets and they contain useful rewards like free lives and bananas that like Mario coins give you free lives for every hundred. In DKC2 secrets were just used to get further in the lost world. You were rewarded with Krem Coins to spend to access secret levels. That wasn't as fun. It made the secrets feel more mandatory. They became work. In DKC secrets were optional and helped you on your quest. You could access the entire game without finding ANY of them. They only contributed to your final percentage.
I like Rare but if they made Metroid missiles would do nothing but unlock areas. Items in games should be real sh!t that does something useful.
QFT.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: segagamer12 on November 28, 2006, 12:34:41 PM
I have DKC but never get very far cuz it always gets boring. I *did however like Kameo and my nephew loves it (it was his first 360 game got it on launch day) but most people hate it too.
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Post by: Arbok on November 28, 2006, 12:47:15 PM
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Originally posted by: segagamer12
...Star Fox Adventures for GC (still my all time favorite GC game)
I have DKC but never get very far cuz it always gets boring.
Does not compute...
Post by: Hocotate on November 28, 2006, 07:43:12 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on November 29, 2006, 04:14:27 AM
Ian's point is true. Nintendo's collectibles are usually more useful. I think there are a whole slew of issues with collecting in video games, starting with the volume of collecting. Making things useful or rewarding is important. Pikmin 2 is heavy on collecting but I never found it boring because the items and their descriptions were a reward in and of themselves. I also think Super Mario 64 had the right idea on collecting in that it gave you a larger supply than you needed to reach the goal. You can shoot for the high score on gold coins per level if you like, but you don't need every last one to get the star. That was an issue for JFG - having to collect every last Tribal to beat the game kind of sucked, though I loved the game otherwise.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 30, 2006, 01:29:27 AM
Post by: Gamebasher on December 09, 2006, 10:01:19 AM
Well, we will just have to wait and see if once-mighty RARE can finally get it right with Banjo-Kazooie 3. I sincirely hope they can, since I will soon buy an XBOX360 with the upcoming HALO 3. And I would of course love to add a number of other superb titles to my games library - apart from the already godlike HALO 3!
I always loved the beautifull, lush worlds with sweet music that BK offered, and so I have very high expectations for the 3. game in that series. I think that nomatter how disgruntled fans of BK ever has been, they will always love to see what the next game in the series has to offer. So sharpen up, RARE! We are a lot of people who would like to see the BK universe again and set in completely new, exciting, bigger and better surroundings. And this time with USEFULL purposes......behind ITEM-collecting, mind!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did RARE hear this? RARE? Are you there? Hellooo?
Post by: KDR_11k on December 09, 2006, 06:14:23 PM
Post by: Kairon on December 09, 2006, 08:39:19 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 10, 2006, 01:15:22 PM
Hahahaha, oh God...The game is an abomination...
Post by: capamerica on December 10, 2006, 02:05:03 PM
I can never understand why people say Kameo and Perfect Dark 0 were good games.
Its because of how BAD both of thouse games were that I have not bothered to touch Viva Pinata.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 10, 2006, 08:46:54 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 13, 2006, 08:33:05 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 13, 2006, 08:56:27 AM
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Viva Pinata was supposedly pretty good, just aimed at the wrong age demographic on the wrong console and thus likely won't sell very well.
That's true.
I don't know about the quality of the game, but is is wrongly aimed at the kids. I've seen videos of it and its a Sims type game hardcore. The game requires you have a lot of patience and do multitasking, something children are NOT capable of at an early age. And the players do NOT get to play as the characters. The TV show may fool kids into believing that they get to play as their favorite characters, when you just overlook what they are doing in your garden.
Plus, the game is in the wrong console. No matter how hard MS and Rare promote this to be a kiddy game it will not erase the fact that the 360 is not a family console.
The theme of the game is nice. Had this been made by Nintendo and available on the GC or Wii, I would've tried it out, no questions asked.
Post by: Gamebasher on December 26, 2006, 08:07:35 AM
As for what I will actually get: I will buy HALO 3, Banjo-Kazooie 3 and some neat racing games too. Apart from that probably not many other games fr that system. XBOX360 is the last system I will buy which has the traditional analogue control. Wii sets the standard for the entire future for me.
KDR11K, yes HALO3 isn´t out yet BUT from what has been released of little tidbits about the game makes it godlike to me!
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 26, 2006, 08:32:20 AM
Post by: kings x on December 26, 2006, 10:23:50 AM
Banjo? eh, well see how it turns out, my interest is pretty low though but I havent played a decent platformer adventure game in a while.
Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2006, 12:46:20 PM
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Originally posted by: kings x
Plus I needed something for my niece and nephew to play since the 360 is far from a family console. No way (in hell) they're playing gears of war or dead rising.
Kings X, you are an example to follow for parents and responsible adults everywhere.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Majora on December 28, 2006, 08:08:28 PM
I remember when Rare was my favourite all time developer, back in the N64 days. Banjo Kazooie, Donkey Kong 64, GOLDENEYE, Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day; I loved them all.
Then with the release of Banjo Tooie (wosrt sequal name ever) I became bored with it and never passed the game, and was a bit disappointed... But jumped back on board with Star Fox Adventures, infact I really rated that game. Then with the news of Rare going to Microsoft I was CUT... But after trying all their Xbox releases I was really disappointed...
They are nothing compared to what they used to be, and I have a feeling Banjo Kazooie 3 will be rather ordinary. What possible innovations can they make to the game? Collect-a-thon here we come....
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 10, 2007, 03:56:25 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 10, 2007, 05:14:31 AM
Because most of Rares best employees have left the studio. Simple as that.
Edit: wow I just realized how old this thread was didn't read the bump post right above me haha.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 10, 2007, 05:27:07 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 10, 2007, 06:37:44 AM
That said...the more Rare screws up, the more I don't have to care that I don't own a 360.
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 12, 2007, 06:14:14 AM
BK3 on the 360 is like a clown at a biker convention: it just doesn't belong there and people are liable to be angry at it.
It's such a shame because I loved the first game and loved the characters even more. They would have made a great addition to SSB, had Rare not gone downhill.
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 12, 2007, 07:58:26 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
They would have made a great addition to SSB, had Rare not gone downhill.
S_B you just made me sad... What an amazing addition they would've been to Smash, so sad to see Rare go down the tubes this way.
Post by: couchmonkey on July 13, 2007, 06:30:58 AM
