Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 16, 2006, 04:12:05 AM
How much would you spend on a PS3 at launch? If the system was priced at $199, would you be there? I think most would say yes. $299? $399?
Likewise, if the Wii had the graphic prowess of the 360/PS3, how much would you be willing to spend on it?
Post by: capamerica on November 16, 2006, 04:31:55 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 16, 2006, 04:48:29 AM
Post by: BigJim on November 16, 2006, 04:56:46 AM
Ditto with the Wii on the pricing.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 16, 2006, 05:00:25 AM
My absolute peak for paying for a console I really really want would probably be $400. That's more than I've ever let myself pay for a PC video card. Without the new controls to go with it, I probably wouldn't want a Wii at that price even if it did have better graphics. I think I'd be willing to pay $300 at retail for the Wii as it exists. I'd never buy a console off a scalper, though, so that will remain hypothetical.
Post by: couchmonkey on November 16, 2006, 05:18:14 AM
My peak for a console I really want would probably $500 CDN - which is the price of the better Xbox 360. But I don't really want 360 or PS3. Would I pay $500 for Wii? No, as that would clearly be gouging on Nintendo's part and the launch lineup isn't worth it, but I'd be more likely to consider it than the other two consoles. If Wii had the power of 360 PLUS everything else it brings to the table, then yeah, I'd pay $500 CDN.
Edit: unclear writing.
Post by: Cortez the Kiler on November 16, 2006, 07:08:37 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:16:53 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 16, 2006, 07:36:53 AM
But in this case, what is there on the system worth playing, let alone spending $600 for?
The reason I'm so interested in the Wii is because standard controllers for standard games literally aren't entertaining me anymore. These days, a game will have a 5-10 hour novelty period with me and then I'll grow intensely bored with it.
The Wii is pretty much my last hope for remaining interested in gaming. If it fails, it's basically over for me.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 16, 2006, 08:20:05 AM
As great as Okami supposedly is, 4 hours in, I'm already getting bored. Obviously I'm not Sony's target audience anymore.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 16, 2006, 08:35:27 AM
So let's assume we could somehow remove the Blu-Ray drive entirely and the PS3 would still work. Let's also assume that I am really interested in one of the launch games. Whatever that would cost is what I would be willing to pay for it. The PS3 price right now is just too expensive for me regardless of my interest level.
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 16, 2006, 08:35:29 AM
However, I think PS3 should be priced in the similar range of Xbox 360...or slightly more.
I think we would all agree that if the PS3 models were $350 for the cheap version and $450.00 for the expensive version that it would be a bargain for what you got.
Though I really think Sony should have made one single unit with everything they were trying to accomplish for $400.00.
Post by: Dryden on November 17, 2006, 01:42:47 AM
For personal use, though? If Sony is predicting a ten-year life cycle - still - then it's not worth anything to me yet. It's going to be two or three years before we see any games that use the PS3's power to really make new game experiences. (Read: non-'scripted' AI)
Post by: Rhoq on November 17, 2006, 01:49:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
The maximum I would pay for a PS3 is the price of a premium 360 or 399.99
Same here.
Post by: Ceric on November 17, 2006, 01:54:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Cortez the Kiler
If it was 300 and launched with FFXIII I would consider it.
...and quarenteed backward compatibility with my dance pads, DDR, and all Monster Rancher games. (My PS2 conked out before I got to play a few games.)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 17, 2006, 08:00:54 AM
You spend it all at once, get your 9 weeks of education/torture. Games? Oh good heavens, no. PS3 is meant as a means of financial support, not silly gameplaying.
Post by: segagamer12 on November 17, 2006, 04:28:46 PM
I wont pay more than 100 for a Ps3 and I wont get one till I can get it used so I garuntee Sony doesnt get any of my money from the purchase. I love sony and all but hate PS so its a pardox for me.
Post by: Kairon on November 17, 2006, 07:04:36 PM
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Post by: wandering on November 17, 2006, 07:53:14 PM
Post by: Aussiedude on November 17, 2006, 09:48:25 PM
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A lot of the cost is for the Blu-Ray player. I don't care about that. I don't have the TV for it anyway and I don't want to adapt to a new video format (ie: buy everything again) anytime soon. Personally I think DVD is good enough for me (I can hear my future grandkids laughing now). With VHS I always noticed how annoying it was to have to rewind and how the more you watched a tape the worse the picture quality became. DVD fixes the problems I had with VHS just like how CDs fixed the problems I had with tapes and records and I an content with those formats. Hell PCs have reached a point where I'm content with things as is. I've had my PC for a few years now and aside from more storage space I have not even once had a situation come up where I feel the need to upgrade.
So let's assume we could somehow remove the Blu-Ray drive entirely and the PS3 would still work. Let's also assume that I am really interested in one of the launch games. Whatever that would cost is what I would be willing to pay for it. The PS3 price right now is just too expensive for me regardless of my interest level.
Well I was with you on Blueray for movies UNTIL today. Seen a Samsung unit connected to a full 1080p screen, @#$%ing impressive, you could see all the pores in the skin so much detail. The Blueray player was $1200 AUD, which is not expensive for a first gen player (I paid $900 AUD for my first el-cheapo chinese clone DVD player), but the screen was expensive @ $6000 AUD.
In 12 months (maybe less) expect these price to halve, which will make the setup afordable. I havent seen a HiDefDVD format player, so cant compare.
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Post by: ThePerm on November 20, 2006, 05:37:24 AM
you spend the money and you get nothing because there are no good games to play
Post by: Garnee on November 20, 2006, 08:36:54 AM
It's worth negative monies for me. They should pay ME to play it.
Post by: segagamer12 on November 23, 2006, 10:46:47 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on November 24, 2006, 02:35:44 AM
But in terms of keeping it, I'd do it for $100 right now.
Post by: darknight06 on November 25, 2006, 09:10:59 AM
Post by: Pikachelsea on November 25, 2006, 03:39:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Garnee
Absoultely nothing.
It's worth negative monies for me. They should pay ME to play it.
QFT. I couldn't possibly disagree more with Sony's greedy approach to the industry (yay let's force our blu-ray player on gamers who don't care about blu-ray in another vain attempt to ensure the success of our proprietary formats) or their disdain for their loyal fanbase. I would require payment to blaspheme my house by owning a PS3.
Post by: Gamebasher on November 27, 2006, 05:29:42 AM
I wouldn´t EVER buy a PS3 even if it cost $99!
I have despised Sony since they contributed to killing the SEGA Dreamcast, which I found to be the best machine I had ever played on then. Better than the PS2 in terms of hardware design, graphics and controller. I vividly recall the Sony fanboys celebrating "the death of Dreamcast" and swore to the mighty Gaming God that I would shun Sony forever, and await the time where they would pay for the damage they had inflicted on the videogameindustry by throwing SEGA out of the consolebusiness. SEGA are missed by many to this day, as they were the ones who should have been in there with Nintendo. So I shifted my attention to Microsoft and XBOX, and XBOX360, and have concentrated on only Nintendo and them ever since.
If the Wii had the graphics of the XBOX360 you say? I would then be willing to pay whatever price Nintendo asked for it, and which day I am sure will come in the next generation where they have mentioned they will go all-out for HD.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 27, 2006, 06:16:58 AM
Post by: Gamebasher on November 30, 2006, 03:50:04 PM
I think that a combination of over-confident management, and employee dissatisfaction caused key-developers to scram, and thus leaving leaving SEGA as an empty shell. Only a shadow of it´s former great self! Could THAT explain perhaps why Sonic has been boring, dull ever since they went into 3D with the Blue Hedgehog? Or "forgot" to re-invent the old cherished franchises that had brought them so many fans? Or took half a decade to bring out the sequel to SEGA Rally 2...on a Sony console exclusively? It´s kind of ironic that they got to develope games for Sony, because a lot of disgruntled SEGA gamers when over to Sony when they got ENOUGH of SEGA and their flopping consoles! So the SEGA fanbase was split between Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft consoles and remain so to this day. I can vividly imagine developers having shivers running down their spines at the thought of the implosion they were witnessing at SEGA!
However, I am STILL mad at Sony simply because they took such huge advantage of the sinking SEGA, instead of thinking like Nintendo does: encourage creativity in the industry and HELP SEGA, and NOT just think crudely in terms of money! Nintendo has taken the initiative to help a lot of people see the right way to make games, and this, I believe, has saved the industry from an inpending crash! But Sony will probably never understand that! To them it´s not games, creativity as much as it is hard, cold cash! And THAT is where the gaming spirit dies. So I am eternally gratefull that we have Nintendo today!
They are truly...the King of videogaming!!!!
Post by: couchmonkey on December 01, 2006, 04:53:13 AM
Edit: I think it's the fanboys that celebrated Sega's demise that deserve your wrath.
Post by: Gamebasher on December 01, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
But I really don´t think that Nintendo ever wanted to thwart SEGA. I believe in Nintendo as a company with a healthy competition spirit, and not a cut-throat attitude! Everything they have done so far seems to indicate that.
To be a strong competitor is one ting (Nintendo), but to simply not respect, or not care about your competitors, and act like you own everything, and care nothing for others in the business - that is quite another! And I think Sony they are act like that. I have also heard Sony say many times "We don´t care!" about this and that related to the consolebusiness. They probably also don´ t care about the fact that they have once more copied Nintendo´s controller design, or about launching a console to the market which is so expensive that it is nearly possible to buy BOTH a Wii and an XBOX360 for the demanded sales price of one PS3! And which one console cost so much money to develope games for that I wonder how the makers of the games ever rake in any healthy profit! Maybe they also just don´t care?
Post by: Arbok on December 01, 2006, 12:01:35 PM
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Still, I believe it will be the cheaper HD-DVD that wins! Blu-Ray will be Sony´s next Betamax!
The loser will be the next Betamax, the winner will be the next Laserdisc.... neither will really win.
Post by: Nick DiMola on December 03, 2006, 06:09:15 AM
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Still, I believe it will be the cheaper HD-DVD that wins! Blu-Ray will be Sony´s next Betamax!
The loser will be the next Betamax, the winner will be the next Laserdisc.... neither will really win.
I will laugh if a third format releases and trounces both of them. What ever happened to the notion of standards? Do us as consumers really need another format war? I hope people boycott both formats in response to the format war (definitely my plan).
But I suppose if years down the line we still have this war raging I'd support HD-DVD before I'd support those Sony bastards.
Post by: Arbok on December 03, 2006, 07:05:31 AM
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But I suppose if years down the line we still have this war raging I'd support HD-DVD before I'd support those Sony bastards.
Stores won't be that patient if it hasn't taken off by then. I'm sure they will still sell the players, but outside of specality video stores finding much of a selection for the discs themselves will be tough.
