Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2006, 03:13:16 PM
But fear not, apparently Nintendo is letting us order the cables over the phone if we call them ALREADY!
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We have made a limited number of the cables available for purchase prior to the launch. The cable will cost $29.95 USD and $35.95 CDN. Expedited shipping is available for an additional fee. There is a limit of one Component Video Cable per customer.
Read it here at GoNintendo!
I hear the phones are all full and the operators are flabbergasted, not realizing that these items are for sale! I'm gonna call 'em as soon as I can!
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Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 03:19:42 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 14, 2006, 03:22:45 PM
I'll just order online as soon as possible.
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2006, 03:24:58 PM
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Post by: Chris1 on November 14, 2006, 03:34:07 PM
Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 03:48:50 PM
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 14, 2006, 04:02:48 PM
Whatever, guess I will be ordering them tomorrow right at opening and hopefully I will receive them Monday morning.
Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 04:05:11 PM
Post by: Nile Boogie on November 14, 2006, 04:07:38 PM
Post by: Switchblade Cross on November 14, 2006, 04:10:11 PM
Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 04:11:36 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
I've said this before and I'll say it again - it may not be Nintendo's doing. It may possibly be that retailers just don't want to carry the component cables.
You got anything to support your claim, because I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't want to carry an item with such strong demand.
Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 04:11:53 PM
Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 04:21:47 PM
But who would have thought that so many people want the best possible connection to their tv for a videogame system? Crazy aint it?
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2006, 04:30:08 PM
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Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 04:37:46 PM
Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 04:45:24 PM
And for that matter, where the hell are the S-Video cables? Or is everybody gonna have to play with the "forgot your eye glasses" effect of composite?
Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 05:00:54 PM
That means Nintendo just sold 3,600 cables (180 mins \ 5 mins each * 100 reps).
That's barely one cable per US Wal*Mart store alone.
And that's saying Nintendo has 100 live reps. And that they've been taking orders non-stop for three hours. And that it's only taking five mins per order. I called shortly before 7 (apparently before the rush) to do something as simple as getting a subscription tied to my MyNintendo account and that took almost nine mins (according to my phone's timer).
Post by: Caliban on November 14, 2006, 05:03:06 PM
Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 05:16:38 PM
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 14, 2006, 05:21:49 PM
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2006, 05:27:43 PM
I say we take this issue to the regginator himself! He'll know what to do!
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Post by: zxkork on November 14, 2006, 05:32:09 PM
Post by: zxkork on November 14, 2006, 05:37:11 PM
Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 05:48:54 PM
Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 05:57:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
But all those people are ones that saw it recently online and made a mad dash to the phone, and only the ones that have credit cards. Look the point really is that it's 2006 and to only offer composite is, well, pretty damn retarded; whether they are getting away from the graphical arms race or not is of little relevance because people want to connect their consoles to their tvs the best way possible so games can look their best, and composite is a real old way of connecting video sources, one that frankly looks like crap.
And yet, the only one that, what, 91% or so of household TVs can use?
I'm not saying it's a good or bad idea to only offer composite cables, I'm merely saying that its very possible that it's not Nintendo's fault that stores aren't carrying the product. The fact that Nintendo is at least offering the cables in some form or another says something - they could simply not offer them at all until retailers decided they want them.
You have to remember, Retailers are already having to have slots for Wii Controllers, Nunchucks, Classic Controllers, Point Cards, ethernet adapters, and Nintendo branded SD Cards (not to mention all the third party stuff like dog tags and controller gloves). Now, compare this to the PS3 which has a SKU for the controller and the PS1/2 Memory Card adapter (heck, I'll even give you that it has two different system skus). The fact is, retailers are already taking on lots of inventory for what could be Nintendo's third flop in a row... why take on even more inventory this early so they can sell one, *maybe* two per store. They're not pushing graphics. They're not pushing hardcore gamer. Retail stores, very likely, just don't care about the component cables for Wii right now.
Post by: UncleBob on November 14, 2006, 06:02:38 PM
If retailers really, really wanted the cables... and Nintendo was the ones saying "No, screw you, we're just going to sell them ourselves for awhile and keep the profit to ourselves."... do you really think retailers like Wal*Mart would put up with something like that for long?
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2006, 06:06:03 PM
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Post by: Jin-X on November 14, 2006, 06:45:34 PM
Instead they seem content in having us (hardcore gamers, the ones more likely to want the best possible cable) jump through hoops to get them at launch instead of the way it should be, at the store for me to pick up with the Wii. And sorry but that whole "retailers don't want the component cables" sounds like some damage control spin cooked up by the PR staff. There are many more Wiis than PS3s available and yet all the reserves got filled out very fast, so the demand is clearly there at least throughout this holiday season, no reason to hold back some accesories that they will sell by the end of the year.
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2006, 07:34:13 PM
And I think I'm using this tv until it busts. "Brave Little Toaster" anyone?
And like I said, I am SO buying an RF adapter for my Wii. That way I'm compatible with older tvs I'm likely to encounter on trips, in family dens, in back rooms, etc.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on November 15, 2006, 02:02:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
The TV I have in my dorm room now does NOT have component. But it does have s-video...
And I think I'm using this tv until it busts. "Brave Little Toaster" anyone?
And like I said, I am SO buying an RF adapter for my Wii. That way I'm compatible with older tvs I'm likely to encounter on trips, in family dens, in back rooms, etc.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Wouldn't it make more sense to buy an RF converter at Walmart? That way you can use the cables from Nintendo, and ANYTHING that has a three pronged RCA output can be plugged into an older TV. Alot of them accept S-Video as well, my old one does at least.
Post by: UncleBob on November 15, 2006, 02:13:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
Only 91% of households, really? HDTV penetration is much larger than that and more importantly, something that a lot of people don't seem to understand, there are SDTVs (those are the 480i ones) that have component connections (like mine for example and my best friends and hell even my grandmothers RCA tv with the old style curved glass that she bought last year has them too). This is what you're missing, component isn't some super-niche thing as you and others tend to believe. Combine that with all the tvs with at least S-Video connections and you get a real large piece of the pie chart that has a connection or connections that are vastly superior to composite, and yet as of this moment Nintendo doesn't seem to be offering these cables in an easily accesible manner.
Instead they seem content in having us (hardcore gamers, the ones more likely to want the best possible cable) jump through hoops to get them at launch instead of the way it should be, at the store for me to pick up with the Wii. And sorry but that whole "retailers don't want the component cables" sounds like some damage control spin cooked up by the PR staff. There are many more Wiis than PS3s available and yet all the reserves got filled out very fast, so the demand is clearly there at least throughout this holiday season, no reason to hold back some accesories that they will sell by the end of the year.
Last stat I heard was that only 9% of households had television sets that could accept an input that's higher quality than composite (S-Video, Component, HDMI and DVI). I'm courious as to what percent of households can only accept coax/rf - the TV we have in our living room is only about 3 years old and it's coax-only...
And the "Retailers don't want it" may sound like PR spin from Nintendo... and if that's the case, it's proof that Nintendo should hire me... But it's not. It's just a wild stab in the dark as to why the cables aren't at retailers. Who knows, I could be wrong and retailers across the globe could want these cables more than they want the systems themselves... but I doubt it.
Post by: Pale on November 15, 2006, 06:10:24 AM
