Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 11, 2006, 06:36:42 PM
Why?
The color palette consists or dark shades of brown, you have to hit the button in order to read a sign and...the game has GC graphics...
Good...gravy. BROWN? They literally made the graphics look like crap! And hitting a button to read a sign????????? WHAT THE HELL IS NINTENDO THINKING?!?
Read the truth, IF YOU DARE...
Joystiq's Twilight Princess impressions
Ok all kidding aside, I know I've been posting Joystiq links in order to mock them, but this is perhaps the worst of them all. I mean, the guy is complaining that the game is flawed because you have to hit a button in order to read a sign, which is something that EVERY SINGLE GAME has been since the beginning of time.
If you didn't believe Joystiq was being awfully harsh towards the Wii and Nintendo, this may just do it...
Post by: willie1234 on November 11, 2006, 06:40:57 PM
Post by: JonLeung on November 11, 2006, 06:47:51 PM
In other words, the game must be really good if they want to complain and that's the best they can come up with.
Post by: Smoke39 on November 11, 2006, 06:52:14 PM
Post by: Edfishy on November 11, 2006, 07:04:48 PM
Post by: Griffin on November 11, 2006, 07:10:01 PM
Seriously... when you can't gripe about the controls aside from pressing a button... I'm glad I preordered it a week ago!
Post by: Artimus on November 11, 2006, 07:15:51 PM
Post by: Edfishy on November 11, 2006, 07:19:02 PM
I'm fairly sure he's trying to attract attention by doing the opposite of what other(and more professional) game critics do and give bad impressions on popular games. Which creates "controversial" discussions and will drive more traffic to his website.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2006, 08:12:53 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on November 11, 2006, 08:13:21 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 11, 2006, 08:16:40 PM
We're giving them free hits which is all part of their evil plan, sadly.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 11, 2006, 08:23:51 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 11, 2006, 08:29:23 PM
Anyway I was more interested in reading some of the, um, intellectually challenged posts from individuals who were actually taking this guy seriously. I do like how some said OOT was all cheery, now maybe I'm wrong but OOT was pretty drab and "brown" in its own right. Nothing was even close to cheery, especially Link as an adult.
Post by: King of Twitch on November 11, 2006, 08:35:35 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on November 11, 2006, 08:37:57 PM
Post by: Chris1 on November 11, 2006, 09:22:53 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on November 11, 2006, 10:10:59 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on November 11, 2006, 11:50:33 PM
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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
If you're going to visit Hyrule, at least have the courtesy to learn the customs, language, etc. Don't expect them to cater to every foreigner's whim; they have enough of their own problems with Gannon and world domination and all without a bunch of whiny English-speakers feeling left out.
GANNON-BANNED
Post by: Hocotate on November 12, 2006, 12:50:28 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
but if a big federal case is made out of pressing a button, you know there's not much else to really nitpick.
In other words, the game must be really good if they want to complain and that's the best they can come up with.
I completely agree. If this is the best they can come up with then this game just might be the best ever.
Post by: Nephilim on November 12, 2006, 01:12:42 AM
I know what they mean
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 12, 2006, 01:57:57 AM
Stupid rushed game, pressing buttons to read, pfft, what is this, 1956?
Post by: The Omen on November 12, 2006, 02:15:49 AM
I stopped reading at:
"Posted Nov 11th 2006 11:55PM by Vladimir Cole"
Obviously this Vladimir Cole is just trying to stir up some attention. Apparently he lives in Philly, which would only take me about 10 minutes to drive to. Hmmm...
Post by: MaryJane on November 12, 2006, 03:07:34 AM
When I play a game I want the colors to flow and be an integral part of the game, and the signs should be readable from a far, I mean in this day of HD graphics signs should be big and bold, allowing you to read them as if you were walking through the game itself. Nintendo has said so much about the controller giving more immersion into a video games world than ever before, yet we have to press a button to read a sign, and the colors are going to make us puke instead of being distracted. I say shame on you Nintendo. shame on you. Don't let your fanboyism blind from these vital mistakes made by Nintendo, yes their the best at what they do, but this cannot be excused and you're all idiots if you can't see that.
actually you're only an idiot if you believe me (sowwy had to do it)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 12, 2006, 03:29:56 AM
Post by: Ceric on November 12, 2006, 03:38:13 AM
lol. You can't read signs on an average sized HDTV HD programming without taking a fourth of the screen.
Post by: Pittbboi on November 12, 2006, 04:48:45 AM
Honestly, I think people need to calm down. He said in the review that this wasn't his final review of the game, and that he had more good things to say about the game than bad. And the very fact that color palette and unreadable signs are the only things he could find wrong with the game so far are, to me, a compliment to Nintendo and the game. Heck, SOMEBODY had to play the devil's advocate.
And hell, I prefer somebody be honest about the game and point out its flaws (however minor) despite the dangerous fanboys, than do nothing but ramble on and on about how great the game is until the hype dies down and some people come to their senses and say "Well, ok, maybe I didn't like that part so much..."
Post by: Ghisy on November 12, 2006, 05:11:08 AM
Post by: Bloodworth on November 12, 2006, 05:11:56 AM
As far as criticizing the game for looking like a GameCube game, they suck. Polygon counts and texture details aside, this is one of the most beautiful and living environments ever in a game. Tons of subtle animations and unique details everywhere. Oblivion may use a better rendering engine, but it looks sterile in comparison.
Signs are the same as always. Unless you're playing an HD or PC game, I can't imagine how much text you could actually fit on one of the signs. You don't need to read most of them anyways.
Post by: ShyGuy on November 12, 2006, 06:17:59 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 12, 2006, 07:12:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Yeah, I'd stop posting these, Pap.
We're giving them free hits which is all part of their evil plan, sadly.
Believe me, I am done with Joystiq all together. I got tired of their "attitude" when posting news. True, they were also harsh towards Sony, but even then, the act gets old. Even IGN has some integrity when posting reviews and news stories.
The funny thing? I wasn't going to post anything else from Joystiq, especially after I posted about the ad, but I saw this and thought it deserved being bashed on PGC.
Believe me when I say that they are being negative for the hell of it. So yeah, I am done with the website.
Any of you guys know some good websites with SERIOUS news articles?
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Wow, Joystiq sure does bring out the raving Nintendo fanboy in everyone. Yes, how DARE he bash a game that most people who are attacking him haven't even played yet?
Honestly, I think people need to calm down. He said in the review that this wasn't his final review of the game, and that he had more good things to say about the game than bad. And the very fact that color palette and unreadable signs are the only things he could find wrong with the game so far are, to me, a compliment to Nintendo and the game. Heck, SOMEBODY had to play the devil's advocate.
And hell, I prefer somebody be honest about the game and point out its flaws (however minor) despite the dangerous fanboys, than do nothing but ramble on and on about how great the game is until the hype dies down and some people come to their senses and say "Well, ok, maybe I didn't like that part so much..."
Uuuuh....no.
First of all, read the title of his article:
"New Zelda falls flat"
When someone uses a title like that, one assumes the game has some severe control/gameplay issues that breaks the whole game. But once you read it, you realize that the things he says breaks the game are trivial and nothing to make a big deal of. As many here have stated, it looks like an attempt to attack something that has gotten valid positive points. Like S_B said, this is an attempt to get negative reactions in order to attract visitors to the site and add fuel to the fanboy fire.
Hell, even Joystiq themselves wrote an article dismissing everything he said as foolish and silly. You know you must have posted a crappy article in order to create a whole other article dismissing it. Even the readers are beginning to question this guy's mentality when he posted screens saying that the readers were wrong. He is definitely insinuating something with his last Wii impressions.
I'm saying that people shouldn't point a game's flaws, even if the game itself is a masterpiece of gaming. But if the "flaws" are as stupid as these issues, you are bound to be questioned.
Post by: Strell on November 12, 2006, 07:13:08 AM
F*ck Joystiq.
F*ck 1up.
They are run by idiots just trying to up their traffic so their ad investors don't pull said ad, sending their sh*thole websites down the drain.
They are the Jack Thompsons of the game journalism scene.
Post by: Pittbboi on November 12, 2006, 08:17:44 AM
I actually thought the article dismissing everything Vladimir said was even more poorly written than his. If Joystiq as a gaming website actually regretted Valdimir's article, they would delete it, or they'd make him write a repeal. No, this is basically just two of Joystiq's contributors disagreeing with each other. I actually thought that was the point with the two articles. Like it or not, there are some things (however minor) in Vladimir's article that holds merit, just as there are some things in the counter article that holds merit.
Not saying this is a credit to Joystiq or anything, though.
Post by: zakkiel on November 12, 2006, 09:09:02 AM
QuoteIf that's what floats your boat...
And hell, I prefer somebody babble on about the most ridiculously trivial sh*t than read an article that actually addresses anything significant about the game in an intelligent fashion
Post by: Martin Q. Blank on November 12, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
Post by: Bloodworth on November 12, 2006, 09:29:10 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Bloodworth, you got a Wii too? So PGC got two Wiis? or are you playing Jonny's Wii? I'm confusded.
No, I'm working on it for my day job. And that's all I'm going to say about that..
Post by: Artimus on November 12, 2006, 09:39:18 AM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on November 12, 2006, 09:45:08 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
That's Joystiq and their A+++++ attention whoring for you. They couldn't possibly be doing it for any other reason, especially when everyone else in the industry says the game is beautiful.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 12, 2006, 12:51:00 PM
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I actually thought the article dismissing everything Vladimir said was even more poorly written than his. If Joystiq as a gaming website actually regretted Valdimir's article, they would delete it, or they'd make him write a repeal. No, this is basically just two of Joystiq's contributors disagreeing with each other. I actually thought that was the point with the two articles. Like it or not, there are some things (however minor) in Vladimir's article that holds merit, just as there are some things in the counter article that holds merit.
Not saying this is a credit to Joystiq or anything, though.
What points did that article make that were valid? Bloodworth pretty much refuted the one with the saturation of "browns". Not to mention the signs not being read from a distance, well they are supposed to be in another language, always have been which helps immerse you in Zelda's fantasy world. To defend the article as anything more than idiotic and petty is pretty sad, especially if you read the title.
Post by: Kairon on November 12, 2006, 12:56:28 PM
I now feel really guilty for visiting Joystiq regularly for general gaming news. That site has seem amazingly LOW journalistic standards. AMAZINGLY LOW. It makes me fee god awful dirty. It's so amazingly obvious that they're doing it for hits too... I mean... oh my god. It's...obscene.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Artimus on November 12, 2006, 01:06:56 PM
Post by: wandering on November 12, 2006, 01:29:43 PM
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Honestly, I think people need to calm down. He said in the review that this wasn't his final review of the game, and that he had more good things to say about the game than bad.
That's exactly what is wrong with the article. He's not posting his honest impressions - you know, 'I've played this far, this is what I like, this is what I don't like.' That would actually be useful. No, what he posted was just a lame attention grab.
