Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 25, 2006, 02:59:08 PM
http://www.planetgamecube.com/specialArt.cfm?artid=12003
Post by: Artimus on September 25, 2006, 03:21:05 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 25, 2006, 03:21:32 PM
It's not exactly the same as PGC's article, but it shares a few same games. It was my tribute to the GC's end. Also I need to get Beach Spikers
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on September 25, 2006, 03:26:19 PM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 25, 2006, 03:46:35 PM
THEN IT DID NOT MEET EXPECTATIONS.
Post by: wandering on September 25, 2006, 03:52:58 PM
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My advice? Dual Tommy Guns at the arctic fortress for Capture the Flag with three of your friends. You can thank me later.
I'll do you one better. Training Ground. Capture the flag. You and 3 friends vs. 12 monkeys.
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Not only does it have fast-paced, action-packed gameplay, and not only does it have nice, er, assets (see above), but it’s got the multiplayer longevity that we all crave. This one’s an oldie, but if you’re able to locate it, pick it up, post haste!
I'm not so sure the game deserves all the praise you've been heaping on it. It has nice "assests", yes, but....well, I think ign laid down some of the serious gameplay issues best:
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The fact that gamers cannot customize body type is disappointing, though; first, these are beautiful girls so of course everyone will want to have fun with that. More, with Team Ninja's Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball on the way to Xbox complete with bouncing breast physics and voluptuous players to boot, Sega might have been wise to allow for all of the customizations available in its game.
edit: italicized for added sarcasm.
Post by: Svevan on September 25, 2006, 03:55:43 PM
Post by: UncleBob on September 25, 2006, 04:24:41 PM
Post by: vudu on September 25, 2006, 04:27:19 PM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 25, 2006, 04:32:45 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 25, 2006, 04:35:52 PM
Post by: Bartman3010 on September 25, 2006, 04:47:50 PM
Post by: capamerica on September 25, 2006, 05:03:53 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 25, 2006, 05:11:32 PM
Still thinking about getting Ikaruga, and I may get Beyond Good and Evil as well. Depends on budgeting and all that. Maybe after I purchase Wii, save them for a dry spell.
Anyway, good article. I feel like more could have been said about them, but it was still good. Maybe discussion will provoke a more thorough inspection of them.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 25, 2006, 05:29:57 PM
Post by: Arbok on September 25, 2006, 05:34:35 PM
The only one I disagree with, though, is Pac Man Vs... a game that was a interesting multiplayer title, but not one that really lasted the test of time as me and my friends lost interest fairly quick and I'm sure we weren't the only ones. It's not really a title that begs to be revisited, and seeing as how it is solely a multiplayer title that's not all that great. Although if its selection was done, in part, due to price that I could understand.
Post by: archioverload on September 25, 2006, 05:37:19 PM
I would also put P.N.03 on that list, although I seriously think I'm the only person who liked that game.
There's also Pikmin 2, which I don't think sold nearly as well as the first one, even though it's the superior game.
Finally, Prince of Persia: Sands o' Time.
Post by: capamerica on September 25, 2006, 05:41:25 PM
Beyond Good and Evil is a hard game to find on any system. Over the corse of a year I actually went out and bought it for every system. GameCube, PS2, Xbox and PC. That way if I have a friend who has never played it I can hand them a copy for whatever system they own.
Post by: Pryopizm on September 25, 2006, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: Ceric on September 25, 2006, 06:13:36 PM
Post by: wandering on September 25, 2006, 06:30:57 PM
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Somebody call the WAAAAMbulance. Geez Wandering, we need to hire you posthaste.
What? I wasn't whining. I agree with your second sentence, though.
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 25, 2006, 06:52:05 PM
the reason it rocked so hard was that it wasn't angst-cyberfuture-look-at-me-I-am-a-psycho-and-need-attention RPG like all those at the time were obviously, we have to thank Square for that trend ¬¬
all in all, interesting list...so many I haven't played yet T_T
Post by: trip1eX on September 25, 2006, 07:16:44 PM
Chibi Robo is the first game that comes to mind that should be on that list. My 2k6 game of the year.
Some folks might forget the 'Cube had Burnout 2 (or was that just me?) which was a great racing game especially with the Logitech SpeedForce Wheel. ~$20 used at Gamestop.
NHL Hitz 2003 rocked. Great pick up and play arcade hockey action. Probably $6 used at Gamestop.
I really thought WarioWorld was fun. Graphics were crisp and the frame rate smooth. No camera problems. AT $50 it was short and not a good value, but now it's around $10 used and a great value.
I'll squeeze in Geist too. Production values were decidedly mixed on this one, but something kept me going long enough to finish it. I think the possession gameplay mechanic was new enough, and the story decent enough to keep me playing. Most typical shooters bore me because they are very repititious. You won't have that problem with Geist. It's not your typical shooter. That's why at around $10 used it's worth checking out.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 25, 2006, 09:45:25 PM
My thoughts on the games I don't have:
Batallion Wars... Not sure, I don't like the Advance Wars games that much. Either way I'll wait until I see it price dropped at a local store. So far I've only seen it cheaper once in Bavaria.
Baten Kaitos sounds good to me but I'll wait for a price drop first. Not that I think that'll ever happen but I'm not paying 60€.
I've got enough multiplayer games and not enough friends to play them with so I don't need Beach Spikers.
Cubivore: Was that even released here?
Jungle Beat doesn't sound like 60€ worth of game either. If it weren't for the bongos I could probably get it cheaper.
I'd like to play Pacman Vs. but I'm not going to buy that POS R: Racing Evolution for it. Not that I've seen that in any store lately.
I don't like Soccer. Sorry, Sega.
Hulk sounds good and I think I've seen it cheap for the PS2.
Time Splitters 2 is available for the PS2 pretty cheap everywhere but Future Perfect doesn't cost much more...
Post by: Bloodworth on September 25, 2006, 11:31:56 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on September 26, 2006, 01:15:40 AM
But yeah pretty fun. You can throw cows at petrol stations. One of them will explode, the other will get back up and walk away like nothing happened. :]
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 26, 2006, 05:21:23 AM
Post by: Acefondu on September 26, 2006, 08:07:27 AM
Post by: TrueNerd on September 26, 2006, 08:12:37 AM
Anyways, I own 8 of those games, have played 11 of them... so obviously I'm pretty cool.
Post by: vudu on September 26, 2006, 09:01:08 AM
QuoteYou wanna borrow a game?
Originally posted by: wandering
What? Vudu never lends me games.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 26, 2006, 09:56:17 AM
It certainly was the better jump and run. You could actually SEE where you're jumping in those "secret rooms", mostly because of the camera being actually useful. The rest of the game was pretty bad but Sunshine was really awful whenever it involved precision jumping because its just impossible to see where you are in relation to the platforms.
This was a cool article. Great send off for the Cube. It's a shame there was never a Skies of Arcadia 2...
Arcadia wasn't that great, certainly not sequel-worthy.
Vudu: Yes but we all know that list would read "Ninja Cop".
Post by: vudu on September 26, 2006, 10:03:01 AM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 26, 2006, 10:06:54 AM
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 26, 2006, 11:43:51 AM
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles didn't need connectivity. It was just a dull hack-n-slash and the connectivity features were incredibly forced and tacked on. In fact I'd say that connectivity made the game WORSE. It's too bad that that's the game that came out first because that's sadly what people think of when they think of connectivity. If Four Swords came out first the concept might have stood a chance. I was skeptical at first since in theory it didn't sound like the game really needed connectivity but after playing it I realized how crucial it was. The game has this odd combination of teamwork and backstabbing. One second you need your friend to help you push the big rock to get to the chests. Then after making a mad dash to see who gets the most booty you wander down a passage. Your friend can't see what's down there but he can hear the "getting force gems" sound and knows your making like a bandit so he rushes after you. A second later you're fighting a swarm of enemies together. The whole game is "honor among thieves". I guess the game could be done online with headsets but it really does benefit from having everyone in the same room.
It also has a new twist on Zelda: having levels instead of an overworld. In theory the idea sounds offensive but it's really fun. I would like to see a single player 2D Zelda with this format. And best of all this was a fresh new idea from Nintendo, a rarity on the Cube. That alone makes it worth getting. The only problem is to really get the full experience you have some pretty hardcore hardware requirements which is ultimately why connectivity failed. This is like the Steel Battalion of the Cube.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 26, 2006, 12:49:28 PM
Post by: hudsonhawk on September 26, 2006, 01:12:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Pryopizm
I got bored of BG&E.
What's it like to not have a soul?
Seriously though I like the idea of the list but I think that a few of the games go against the idea of a "Lost Gems" list. Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7 and Eternal Darkness are overhyped (and in my opinion incredibly overrated). I don't think anyone's going to say, "Oh Eternal Darkness is supposed to be good? I hadn't heard that."
That said, the Free Radical game that should be on this list is Second Sight. It's a shame that no one bought that game.
Post by: Rize on September 26, 2006, 01:22:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Nice list except for Metroid. It sold over a million copies...
I insisted Prime be put on the list because (a) it's the best game of all time and didn't sell nearly enough copies considering that, and (b) it can be had for 5-7 bucks used at GameStop/EB. Anyone who unloaded or passed it by because of lack of dual analog or the first person view point really oughta give it another shot.
And if anyone was crazy enough not to try it at all, what are they waiting for? With any luck, it's inclusion in the list will get Metroid Prime a little more of the respect that it so deserves.
As for Echoes (Jonny
), if a person didn't like the first I can't imagine they would like the second. And if they played the first through, then they should have a good idea of what they're missing. While Echoes is better than Prime in some important ways (bosses and morphball action), it is arguably worse in others (the dark world and it's associated gameplay and especially loading times) and still retains the things that made some people shy away from the first (controls and view point).
Post by: trip1eX on September 26, 2006, 02:41:45 PM
IF for nothing else than it came out first and MP2 just wasn't different enough.
MP was outta place on the list. I mean if you wanted a well received cheap game that didn't sell then you could have picked say F-Zero GX instead.
Post by: wandering on September 26, 2006, 02:50:08 PM
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You wanna borrow a game?
What? Oh, no, not really.
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Post by: Pryopizm on September 26, 2006, 05:56:17 PM
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Originally posted by: hudsonhawkQuote
Originally posted by: Pryopizm
I got bored of BG&E.
What's it like to not have a soul?
Delicious and nutritious. Seriously, though, I bought the game expecting a pretty cool time. I figured out the story ten minutes in, hated the combat, and found the stealth parts (the bulk of the game) lacking. I just got bored.
Post by: Kairon on September 26, 2006, 06:23:13 PM
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on September 26, 2006, 08:28:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Hulk: Ultimate Destruction doesn't quite live up to the ultimate part! Like, only one certain looking building can be knocked to the ground, and there's about ten of those in the entire city. The only time I've seen the whole joint crumble was during that boss fight with the gigantic laser shooting robot that needed fire trucks thrown at it or something.
But yeah pretty fun. You can throw cows at petrol stations. One of them will explode, the other will get back up and walk away like nothing happened. :]
My memory of the game could be fooling me, but I think almost every building in the game can be destroyed if you're powerful enough and if you use the most insane super moves. It's definitely not a common sight in the early goings, but by the time I unlocked every power (including the ability to play as Bruce Banner -- with all of Hulk's strength and moves), I'm pretty sure that I was blowing up entire city blocks.
Post by: TrueNerd on September 26, 2006, 09:16:29 PM
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Originally posted by: RizeQuote
Originally posted by: Artimus
Nice list except for Metroid. It sold over a million copies...
I insisted Prime be put on the list because (a) it's the best game of all time and didn't sell nearly enough copies considering that, and (b) it can be had for 5-7 bucks used at GameStop/EB. Anyone who unloaded or passed it by because of lack of dual analog or the first person view point really oughta give it another shot.
And if anyone was crazy enough not to try it at all, what are they waiting for? With any luck, it's inclusion in the list will get Metroid Prime a little more of the respect that it so deserves.
When you put it like that, I couldn't agree more with Prime's inclusion on this list.
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Nate, there will be other GameCube nostalgia articles coming up, and in said articles, greater justification will be given. This is basically just a small list of games you can pick up that weren't given the spotlight they deserved.
Well, okay... as long as there's future articles.
Post by: archioverload on September 27, 2006, 08:38:06 AM
I was wondering, has anyone played Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for the Cube? They have it at the local gamestop for $13 used and wonder if that's a good pickup.
Post by: ShyGuy on September 27, 2006, 08:59:19 AM
A is a great coop game.
Post by: Svevan on September 27, 2006, 09:43:35 AM
Post by: Rize on September 27, 2006, 11:32:42 AM
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Originally posted by: trip1eX
The first MP was better.
IF for nothing else than it came out first and MP2 just wasn't different enough.
MP was outta place on the list. I mean if you wanted a well received cheap game that didn't sell then you could have picked say F-Zero GX instead.
MP wasn't just well received, it is utterly unique and also (according to GameRankings.com) the most highly reviewed GameCube game, and also in the top five of all time. However, it remains a favorite more of critics and gamers with refined taste rather than the masses. To many people it is truly a lost gem. But at 5 to 7 bucks per used copy, I think some people oughta give it a second (or first) chance.
F-Zero GX, while nice, is relatively similar to other futuristic racers including it's own predecessor on the N64.
Post by: IceCold on September 27, 2006, 01:34:52 PM
QuoteRelatively similar to? More like a quantum leap better than..
F-Zero GX, while nice, is relatively similar to other futuristic racers including it's own predecessor on the N64.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 27, 2006, 10:47:34 PM
Post by: Rize on September 28, 2006, 10:03:22 AM
But still, F-Zero GX doesn't have that utter uniqueness that made it a lost gem, to many people. People had a good idea what they would get if they picked up GX, and those who wanted it picked it up.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 28, 2006, 12:55:55 PM
There is alot of depth to the game and stands right up there with Fire Emblem and FF Tactics, however if you don't like Turn Based games, stay the F' away from it.
And last but not least im gonna plug Naruto Fighting games, now since they are being localized if you are a fan of Naruto there shouldnt be anything from stopping you to atleast play the games. Currently I only own the Japanese 3rd game (I sold the 2nd game) but trust me it is one of the best fighters around.
Post by: IceCold on September 28, 2006, 01:22:57 PM
QuoteIt's a figure of speech
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Quantums aren't exactly known for being large.
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QuoteWell. Bloodworth gave it a 10, and Jonny gave it a 9.. That's high praise. It may not have been as unique or innovative as some games, but the gameplay was just brilliant. The adrenaline, the tight controls, the great level design and the pure speed make it better than most of the games on that list..
But still, F-Zero GX doesn't have that utter uniqueness that made it a lost gem, to many people. People had a good idea what they would get if they picked up GX, and those who wanted it picked it up.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 28, 2006, 11:09:57 PM
