Post by: wandering on September 16, 2006, 05:11:11 PM
With the Lylat system at peace and no new missions forthcoming, the Star Fox team was taking a much needed break. Fox was relaxing on Sauria when he got a distress call from Slippy....
Fox quickly shared the news with the rest of the team, and General Pepper.
And so Fox, Falco, and Krystal boarded the Great Fox 2 and made their way to the Lonely Hearts Inn, a vacation satellite orbiting Cornaria. Soon after their arrival, the following message was sent:
"Report to General Pepper from Fox McCloud:
Outside communication has been cut off, but we finally managed to get a message through. We've made it to the Inn, and Slippy and everyone else is okay. But the situation is far worse than we thought - Star Wolf is being lead by Andross, and he's here on the satellite! To make matters worse, he's flooded the corridors with deadly gas. My team, every vacationer, and me are trapped in our individual rooms - the only places that are safe from the gas.
We're going to try and take care of Andross and Star Wolf - we know they're trapped in their rooms too, so it'll be a piece of cake for R.O.B. to drop bombs on their locations. The only problem is - we've checked the guest list, and they aren't on it. Which means there are four traitors on board who are hiding and protecting the bad guys in their rooms, and we don't know who they are.
It isn't all bad, though. Each room is equipped with a powerful Ultra 64 computer, and I can talk with everyone on the satellite over the Ultra 64 network. We've decided that everyone will vote on who the traitors are. Whoever the vacationers decide is a bad guy, will be blown up. It'll be tricky, because the traitors will be able to vote too, and Andross and Star Wolf will be able to monkey around with us as well. But it's our only option. I hope no innocent people are killed.
Fox Out."
The bad guys taunt Fox and company by day, and kill by night.
Andross - BlackNMild. Kills one vacationer every night. If he dies, he gets to choose a successor. Has the power to make the traitor who is protecting him appear like an innocent vacationer to the investigator.
Wolf O' Donnel - Blackfootsteps.
Leon Powalski - Mario.
Panther Caroso - Mystic Gohan.
The traitors - each one is hiding a separate bad guy. If a traitor is voted out, both the traitor and the bad guy he is protecting dies.
Fox McCloud - while better known as a fighter pilot, Fox is also a skilled investigator. He can determine the role of one person each night.
The Doctor - There is a Cornarian army doctor on board, identity unknown. He can protect one person every night.
And finally, there are the innocent vacationers.
The Ultra 64 network is divided into three sections, or "threads":
-Open channel: Discuss goings-on here.
-Voting booth: Vote for who you suspect here.
-Slippy's Updates: See the results of votes, and who the bad guys have killed, here.
Every day, you vote for you suspect is hiding a bad guy in the "Voting Booth" thread. Everyone can vote, including people with roles. Every night, the bad guys can kill one person, Fox can investigate one person, and the doctor can protect one person (via pms).
You can lie, claim whatever you want, and even reveal your role. However, you are not allowed to quote or show screenshots of pms. While alive, you most post in a mafia thread at least once every 2 days. While dead, you must not participate in the game in any way.
Before the game starts, you can choose to play as any character in the Star Fox universe, and I will pm you an appropriate avatar in addition to your role.
Anyone interested?
Post by: ShyGuy on September 16, 2006, 07:36:23 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on September 16, 2006, 07:46:39 PM
Post by: Dasmos on September 16, 2006, 07:52:41 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on September 16, 2006, 08:03:17 PM
Post by: wandering on September 16, 2006, 08:54:32 PM
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Hmm, Is a dead thread allowed?
Sure. The dead guys just can't post in the regular threads or reveal information. The usual stuff.
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My only concern is that there are not alot of Star Fox characters to choose from.
That's why I tried not to use up characters on special roles. There should be enough, but stragglers might have to use crappy side characters from Adventures...
Post by: ShyGuy on September 16, 2006, 09:01:46 PM
Question. I'm not a huge Starfox fan, will I be confused if I play?
Question. Was that language at the beginning of StarFox Adventures French? Cause it sounded kinda French. French-ish.
Post by: Crimm on September 16, 2006, 09:14:47 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on September 16, 2006, 09:17:06 PM
Question. Does Shyguy ask a lot of questions?
Question. Do I?
Post by: wandering on September 16, 2006, 09:19:38 PM
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Question. Will the cool comic-book-looking-character-story-blocks be at the beginning of each day?
Currently, the plan is to hear from just Slippy at the beginning of each day. (Thus, Slippy's Updates.) I could probably deliver his dialog in that same style....
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Question. I'm not a huge Starfox fan, will I be confused if I play?
Probably not. I managed well enough with Final Fight or whatever. Or at least, I think I did...
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Question. Was that language at the beginning of StarFox Adventures French? Cause it sounded kinda French. French-ish.
Dinosaurs that speak French? That wouldn't make sense at all!
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Question. Did you know you could probably host the next mafai game. I'm pretty sure in that old thread where people discussed hosting mafia games, I was the last to say I wanted to host, so I think the next game is open to anyone.
Yes, but I've already hosted one, so it wouldn't really be fair.
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Question. Does Shyguy ask a lot of questions?
Question. Do I?
Yes.
Post by: 18 Days on September 17, 2006, 03:57:11 AM
Post by: vudu on September 17, 2006, 06:23:18 AM
As for the gameplay, I have a question.
QuoteWhat's that mean? Is it just a normal, four person mafia team or are there actually eight members (four mafia, four traitors)? If it's the former, (which I think it probably is), it sounds like a pretty typical straight-up mafia game (which I like).
We're going to try and take care of Andross and Star Wolf - we know they're trapped in their rooms too, so it'll be a piece of cake for R.O.B. to drop bombs on their locations. The only problem is - we've checked the guest list, and they aren't on it. Which means there are four traitors on board who are hiding and protecting the bad guys in their rooms, and we don't know who they are.
Post by: wandering on September 17, 2006, 06:45:35 AM
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What's that mean? Is it just a normal, four person mafia team or are there actually eight members (four mafia, four traitors)? If it's the former, (which I think it probably is), it sounds like a pretty typical straight-up mafia game (which I like).
It is essentially a straight-up 4 person mafia team....but there are, in fact, eight bad guy roles. They're just doubled up, like Mario Kart: Double Dash. BlackNMild, Mario, Blackfootsteps, and Mystic Gohan (should they choose to play) are the ones who do the night killings. But their fate is tied to a group of four people, who are the ones you're actually trying to vote out.
Apart from that twist, this is probably the most plain jain vanilla game yet.
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Im not interested in saving Slippy
You can't leave Slippy hangin'!
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Originally posted by: Crimm
I'd play just in the off chance I get to be THE GREAT LEON!
Oh no, I was thinking the great Leon was someone else for some reason. He's already taken, unless mario or another one of the four decide not to play. There's a chance you'll get to protect Leon and do his bidding, though...
Post by: Zach on September 17, 2006, 08:48:34 AM
Post by: wandering on September 17, 2006, 09:17:23 AM
Post by: nickmitch on September 17, 2006, 09:20:09 AM
Post by: stevey on September 17, 2006, 09:33:19 AM
can I be greatfox (whatever the big ship is called) or R.O.B.?
Post by: wandering on September 17, 2006, 10:49:56 AM
As for R.O.B., I was kind of thinking of reserving that role for myself (and using him for updates, instead of Slippy.) He's outside the sattelite and it wouldn't make sense for a player to be him, anyway. If somebody really wanted to play as him, though, I suppose I could allow it...
Post by: vudu on September 17, 2006, 12:48:11 PM
Post by: stevey on September 17, 2006, 01:28:02 PM
Edit:
DANM YOU WANDERING! YOU DELETED MY LIST OF WINNERS FROM MAFIA 8!
Edit2:Made a new list
Mafia 9 Stevey, Stabby, TVMan, Garnee, Dasmos (townies) win
Mafia 8 pyro/NuclearSpeed (townies) win
Mafia 7 Dash mafia kill all (Cheating doctor!)
Mafia 666 everyone dies
Mafia 5 Townies (typ/crash cheated though)
Mafia 4 Werewolves win
Mafia 3 Breakyboy and TVMan (townies) Win
Mafia 2 everyone dies
Mafia 1 Townies won
T5-M2-S3
Post by: wandering on September 17, 2006, 05:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Wait, this game sounds boring. If you're mafia, everyone knows it, so there's no point in trying to hide your identity. And if you're one of the traitors, you don't get to kill anyone at night, so it's also boring. And it's not like you can even work together to bring the blue sparks. This game is flawed.
I think you may be surprised. The townies have never been face-to-face with the people that were killing them before. I'm not sure what the mafia well do, but I think it'll be very interesting.
As for the traitors, I think it'll feel, to them, like they're on an eight-person mafia team. After all, in a regular mafia game, only one person has the power to kill at any one time.
I have been thinking about putting back in a few ideas that I've dropped, though, which might make things less 'boring'. Originally, the mafia was going to alternate their kills (andross kills on day one, star wolf on day 2, etc.) And, the traitors were going to have special powers (ala mafia IV) to compensate for the fact that they couldn't kill.
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Originally posted by: stevey
A better idea is going back to other winning mafias player and pick them to be mafia but not tell anyone which one were and pick the winning townie to be on the townie side with super townie roles so the mafia can get back at the one who killed them. ...
I tend to think secret roles shouldn't have a pattern to them.
Oh, as for your old post - heh heh. Um. I actually have those posts saved, and I've been meaning to ask a mod to restore them....
Post by: ShyGuy on September 17, 2006, 07:35:18 PM
Post by: Khushrenada on September 17, 2006, 08:43:07 PM
1. Can the known mafia vote or is it the traitors only?
2. Can the known mafia talk to the other players or are they silent killers only?
3. Am I still asking too many questions?
And now a message to:
STEVEY
Hey man, quit taking away my victory. I've let it slide for awhile because I thought you might have been upset about the outcome but it's clear now you actually think it's how it happened. Mafia 666 as you call it, was a mafia victory that Knowsnothing (ahhh, Knowsnothing, we made a great team) and I worked hard to get. The Bomber's assistant wasn't a real role, just a plot device that Bill explained. Bill even confirmed that it was a Mafia win for the foxes. So please, stop taking away our victory. Speaking of which, that means that MattVDB won two games in a rowas mafia. He was part of our mafia, though he died earlier. And in Pale's game, he was part of the Dash mafia and won the game when he succesfully recruited Zach. So, yeah. When you refer to Mafia 6, I respectfully ask that post it as it was. A mafia win. I happened to be the last Mafia standing, with Athrun Zala, the only townie left.
Post by: wandering on September 17, 2006, 09:14:56 PM
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I say keep the game simple. Mafia can get derailed by too many variables.Oh, I guess I'm in. Can anyone suggest a Starfox character for me?
Mmm, good point. Oh, and if you want to save the person who chooses Slippy from having the most annoying character in the game, you could always be Tricky. If not, General Pepper would be a good choice...
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Uhhh, everyone realizes that this isn't the next mafia game right? I'm thinking at this point though Wandering, you may want to host the next game. No one has really stepped up with saying they want to do it. (At least not yet. Frankly, depending on how my hosting goes, it might be something I wouldn't mind doing regularly but that's for another day.) So maybe, this should be shelved for the moment.
Sorry for stepping on your toes a bit. I honestly didn't think anybody was interested in me hosting again, so I didn't want to just jump in after your game and say 'hey guys! sign-ups for my new game!'
I...hmm. I think once you post the sign-ups for your game (weren't you planning on doing that this weekend?), interest will shift, and a bunch of people will sign up. But, if you'd rather I go first, I can. I really want whatever you want to happen, to happen.
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1. Can the known mafia vote or is it the traitors only?
No voting for the known mafia.
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2. Can the known mafia talk to the other players or are they silent killers only?
They can talk all they want.
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3. Am I still asking too many questions?
No such thing!
Post by: MattVDB on September 18, 2006, 12:49:21 AM
Anyway, I've been away and haven't been able to play Mafia with ya'all these past two times, and I really want to get back at it. I'm totally down with StarFox Mafia, as well as whatever Khush may have planned. However scary that may be. 
Post by: Khushrenada on September 18, 2006, 08:23:04 AM
On a side note, you didn't answer question one. I know you can't vote for the known mafia. My question was can THEY vote? Or is it only the traitors who can vote in the voting thread? Because if the known mafia can vote, they've got like 8 votes they can toss out a day.
Post by: vudu on September 18, 2006, 09:14:39 AM
QuoteBoo! Too soon.
Originally posted by: Khushrenada
Yeah, I'm putting the sign-up this Saturday.
Seriously guys, we need to start spacing these out a bit. It's starting to get old.
Post by: Zach on September 18, 2006, 09:45:31 AM
Post by: vudu on September 18, 2006, 10:23:44 AM
But then those people won't actively play and we'll wind up with what happened this past game where by day seven we had nothing but people who hadn't been playing left and you can't figure out who's who at all.
Post by: wandering on September 18, 2006, 10:42:47 AM
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On a side note, you didn't answer question one. I know you can't vote for the known mafia. My question was can THEY vote? Or is it only the traitors who can vote in the voting thread? Because if the known mafia can vote, they've got like 8 votes they can toss out a day.
The known mafia can NOT vote, no.
Good luck with your game, khush.
I think I've gotten just enough replies to feel comfortable with going ahead with the game, whenever that might be. So this thread could probably be locked now, to prevent confusion.
Post by: Khushrenada on September 18, 2006, 11:01:05 AM
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Boo! Too soon.
Seriously guys, we need to start spacing these out a bit. It's starting to get old.
Uhh, yeah. Wandering is right. This game is starting on the 1 of Oct. I posted this in the Mafia: Enter your initals thread. So to clarify, the sign-up is this Saturday. It stays open for a week. Then on the 30th. It's closed. The roles go out and the game starts on the 1st of Oct. So this means that there is only one mafia game for the month of September. And possibly one game for October, if Wandering goes next and starts on Nov. 1. I'm trying to make it once a month too, Vudu.
Post by: vudu on September 18, 2006, 11:20:24 AM
The four mafia members are going to have very little to do (absolutely nothing to do, actually, except for the one person who has the final say in who dies) besides taunt everyone else. And while fun in its own respect, that's not mafia.
The four traitors are going to at least get to vote and pretend to be good guys. But they don't get to do any of the fun stuff like kill people at night.
In short, the traitors are going to be the drivers who play most of the game, but don't get to have much fun, the mafia members are going to be the guys who sit in the back and throw the occational turtle shell, and no one gets to bring the blue sparks.
What do the potential mafia members think about this idea? (Speaking of which, I haven't seen MysticGohan in quite time tome; is he even still around?)
Post by: Khushrenada on September 18, 2006, 11:40:35 AM
For instance, you have the mafia posting all sorts of stuff creating confusion. For instance, if a traitor starts to get some votes, the mafia could start urging more people to vote for that person. This would creat doubts in other people's minds. Well, if the mafia wants him gone maybe he isn't a traitor. Or it could be the mafia setting us up. So, you have this psychological aspect to the game because you know who the mafia is but you don't know what their agenda is with what info they give out.
And I've been mafia 3 games and I have never once sent out the hit for anyone. Sure, I discussed options with the godfather but he made the ultimate decision and didn't always go with what I suggested. From what I can tell this would be the same thing, the traitors may not make the hit but they can still all discuss what should be done.
I do see your point about the known mafia not having much to do. If I was them, I'd still have fun just taunting and basically trying to confuse everyone with no reprecusions.
Post by: wandering on September 18, 2006, 12:48:33 PM
Regardless, I'm working on some ways to let the bad guys to "bring the blue sparks." I think alternating kills will be going back in (the primary reason I took it out has been mitigated by the addition of the doctor.) And I think the traitors may be able to affect kills in some small capacity.
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(Speaking of which, I haven't seen MysticGohan in quite time tome; is he even still around?)
Last visited....today, in fact. Though if any of the originals don't want to play, we can always get substitutes.
Post by: vudu on September 18, 2006, 05:36:02 PM
QuoteYeah, but when was the last time he posted?
Last visited....today, in fact.
Post by: wandering on September 18, 2006, 06:26:06 PM
Post by: vudu on September 19, 2006, 02:59:27 AM
Post by: blackfootsteps on September 19, 2006, 10:16:01 PM
Post by: Ceric on September 20, 2006, 04:38:37 AM
I would like to be Generic Transforming Robot X before I am anything out of Star Fox Adventure.
So sign ups are Saturday for Khush's game.
